Wine glorious wine!!

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:00:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:11:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:19:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 14:01:

Red, rosé or white, I like variety.
Right now, there's a shiraz, Ascender Cellars, Australia, in my glass. Not bad at all.

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babygirl says on May 22, 2009, 14:01:

azunoman...red wine is natures answer to viagra....or getting your date loopy....jajajajajaja

hahahahahaha!!! I like to call it the 'warm and fuzzy' feeling.

I love a lot of Chilean wines BUT some of the South African reds are so good! Almost a smoky flavour, it must be a certain region I'm always buying from and something in the soil? Who knows. (I have to dig up names, I'm really bad and go with remembering what the label looks like).

My favourtie Pinot Noir is from a local Niagara winery, Inniskillin. Soooo good, like chocolate!

I'm heading to Colombia for a couple months so I'll probably be drinking mostly Chilean and Spanish I'm assuming?

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 14:24:

greg says on May 22, 2009, 15:08:

MD 2020

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:16:

Yeah Kat, I found it, althoug the link at the top was dead. Carefour does have a nice selection. Too bad I have to get up ealy for a little horse riding this weekend with the tiny terror (my niece), or it would be Cab tonight.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 15:25:

Are you in Colombia now, Billy?

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:38:

No, unfortunately. I'm going riding at a friend's place up the coast.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:40:

podborski says on May 22, 2009, 16:35:

did someone say wine???

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podborski says on May 22, 2009, 16:37:

ok, this is perhaps my ONLY complaint about Colombia...not easy to find decent wine, especially in bars, hey maybe I can open a wine bar in Bogotá?

Actually last time I looked in carrefour it seemed to be ok, and not too horribly pricey

About the only thing you can get in zona rosa bars is casillero del diablo, which is ok, but not great.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 16:40:

podborski says on May 22, 2009, 16:47:

anyway, for anyone who cares, right now I only know argentinean wine. But if you are in the US or UK you might find the following:

El Felino Malbec or Cabernet Sauvignon, especially 2006 if you can get it. About $14? Great value. I like Cab Sauv better than anything myself..

Bramare malbec or Cab sauv any year, it's freaking great wine if you like a big wine, at $35 or $40 USd it's my current favourite

Now if you get really lucky you might find a bottle of Australian cab Sauv called Branson Coach House, 2005, Greenock Barossa Valley. Normally costs $80 usd, but I heard it can be found on sale as big aussie reds are out of favour at the moment. 18% alcohol, tastes like port, best wine I've had at that price, and maybe best wine I've had period. Well, maybe not, but it was damn good.

Achaval ferrer cab sauv 2003-amazing. Not big, but very subtle and balanced...a real wine lover's wine.

Tomorrow I'll be drinking at a bottle of Bramare (it's my birthday!) and I plan to bring a bottle or 2 to Bogotá with me too.

Do any restaurants in Bog allow you to bring your own?

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 17:35:

I tried some of Pod's recommendations last year and they were excellent.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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podborski says on May 22, 2009, 17:44:

I think the ones I mentioned would be hard to find in bogotá

Maybe you'd find something from Catena Zapata or Sophenia, which are pretty good?

But avoid the mainstream argy winemakers like Rutini, although Trapiche makes some ok wine at the higher end

When I get there next week I'll check out what's available and maybe be able to make some suggestions

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podborski says on May 22, 2009, 17:46:

in general I'd bet there are better chilean wines than argy wines for sale in Colombia...

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babygirl says on May 22, 2009, 18:27:

kat: "that is my problem I only drink white wine, so when I am out in Bogota few places have wine and if they have as you say the only one available is casillero and it's not even cold!!!"
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hmmm agree that white wine not chilled properly is pretty gross. It really makes such a difference with the taste doesn't it? Even if it's too cold too that ruins the wine I find. Well when I get sick of beer over the next couple of weeks, I'll have to start experimenting with the wine selection of Cartagena. Could be interesting indeed ;)

Wine Bar in Bogota some how seems really fitting! I'd visit for sure. What about a tapas / wine bar? hmmm?

Anybody try icewine? I have a bottle chilling in my fridge right now, I'm trying to decide if I should bring it down south with me but I'm not sure if it's past it's prime. I guess they really won't know the difference anyway...hehehe.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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podborski says on May 22, 2009, 18:52:

bring the icewine, it's probably unheard of in Colombia, and it's very hardy, it's so high in alcohol content it lasts forever, even opened. It'll be fine. Try it with cheesecake...it is a dessert wine after all. Not sure it would go with arequipe though

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romy says on May 22, 2009, 19:03:

I'll look for El Felino and Bramare at my LC to go with my steaks this weekend.
Thanks
Sunday I had a wine called Cartagena from Chile I think it was, I guess because I got a bit sentimental, never making that mistake again.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 19:34:

jaja, romy, if you see a wine called Cali, better steer clear.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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miamimike says on May 22, 2009, 20:30:

azunoman says on May 22, 2009, 14:12 (today): flag

I am probably going to end up in Chile when it's all said and done.....I have this fascination with their country....plus the pbh board there needs some ready, fire aim....but I love the Chilean wines...I avoid the Espana because of our differing views on their colonization methods...:)


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I agree 100% with you on Chile! I could add Argentina(parts of)as well. Lots of good skiing, cycling, Trout fishing and Bird Hunting. I like the wines from these countries in the sub $9 a bottle class. These wines from both countries in this price range are extremely popular in Miami and so many to choose from!

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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vladimiro says on May 22, 2009, 21:34:

I too used to buy casillero del diablo in colombia(and the US too). Now I like to try new wines.

Check out gary vaynerchucks winelibrarytv shows and you might become a wine geek too.

Here's today's episode.
http://tv.winelibrary.com/2009/05/22/tasting-with-a-long-time-vayniac-...

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romy says on May 22, 2009, 22:22:

no luck at my neighborhood liquor store with those two... ended up with a bottle of Don David- Argie Malbec, which I quite enjoyed and resulted in some very good conversation.
Now I'm alone and feeling like hitting up a bottle of guaro ;)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 23, 2009, 02:16:

goin_south says on May 23, 2009, 03:31:

a red wine I 'stumbled' onto was 'ESTANCIA'...
and I was probably a sucker for the name,
sounding a bit romantico, being from where? I'm not sure.
Maybe Napa Valley. Could have been Espana.
about 30 usd in the states. Did I go back for more? si!!!
don't even remember, if it was Cabernet or red Zinfandel, my preference, or something else.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on May 23, 2009, 04:42:

Here's an interesting webpage: http://www.kevinzraly.com/
Named the best wine school in New York City by New York Magazine.
Just stumbled across this on the msn home page this morning.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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miamimike says on May 23, 2009, 07:15:

Tons of Wines at $10 and under a bottle are to found in Miami...

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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podborski says on May 23, 2009, 09:00:

I would pay a lot of money to see you ´put on a show´ kat, I 'd even buy you some puligny montrachet.

I bet billyb and gs would join me

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podborski says on May 23, 2009, 09:04:

you know how they say you should do something you like, well a wine bar is an obvious choice for me.

is it just me or do half of PBHrs either own bars or are trying to open one?

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 23, 2009, 09:11:

Perhaps I should open a wine bar in my Cali house instead of a bed and breakfast or a geriatric home for gringos.

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Portena says on May 23, 2009, 10:56:

The wine bar sounds like it would be a nice touch...

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 23, 2009, 11:27:

yeah...it has a nice ring to it: Desi´s Home and Wine Bar For Very Old and Rich Gringos...

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goin_south says on May 23, 2009, 14:48:

but, a few select Pbh'ers might find you and turn it into a Whine Bar

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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tasco66 says on May 23, 2009, 15:02:

For a special meal I like to drink a “grand cru” from Bordeaux. For regular meals a good Chilean or Argentinean wine will do just fine.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 23, 2009, 18:52:

billyb says on May 23, 2009, 19:10:

Just got back from an all day horse ride and am on my fist glass of Cab. Pod, I think it would be a great idea for you to open a wine bar in Bogs, then again I am looking at it purely from a consumers point of view ;) First time the tiny terror had been on a horse, as opposed to ponies, she took to it like a natural.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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podborski says on May 24, 2009, 13:58:

I think owning a wine bar in Bogotá would be the best possible job in the world, but I'd lose my shirt as I'd probably (more like certainly) give free drinks to every hot girl that walked in

it would be a fun way to lose money though

I'll scout locations next week

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podborski says on May 24, 2009, 14:04:

I'd like to put it in Usaquen, but probably have to stick with Zona T which has lots more traffic

How would I convince the locals to drink wine though? Maybe elmo has some advice on that?

Probably I'd have to serve cheese with it and then those damn colombians would drop it into their wine : )

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goin_south says on May 24, 2009, 14:45:

from admittedly limited experience, Pod... the rolitas aren't real picky: beer, red wine, rum... whateva. I'd definitely keep a little of that Tequila Rose Chocolate on hand for maybe a gift shot, after a bottle of wine, on the way out

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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tasco66 says on May 24, 2009, 15:24:

"the rolitas aren't real picky: beer, red wine, rum... whateva"

Jajaja...that reminds me of the day I was organizing a party in some Caribbean island. I walk in a liquor store and ask the manager what the locals like to drink, and he answers “anything that contains alcohol”…

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JGD (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 25, 2009, 05:33:

podborski says on Jun 11, 2009, 12:32:

ok so I went into a place called the wine store near zona t, and what a surprise, they had a great selection of wine. I only really know argentine stuff but they had lots.

It was all a bit pricey, but not horrendous.

I was very surprised to see they did have Achaval Ferrer malbec, I think it was 80,000 COP? Not cheap, but at least they have it. They also had a lot of catena zapata, and even Luca which is quite a boutique winery (related to catena)

There was so much I can't even recall it all, but I have their card and will try to remember to post their email address, they told me they had a catalog they would email me.

So now when are restaurants going to start carrying all this?

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:06:

podborski says on Jun 11, 2009, 13:56:

no reason to pay up for french and italian wine, good as it is, when the SA version can be as good (at the lower and middle end, better in fact)

too bad taxes seem to be so high on wine in colombia, as I hear they are in Brazil as well. Not like these countries are protecting their own industry...it´s a bit odd.

If i could get a bottle of AF Malbec or a carmenere for $20 in a bar or restaurant in Colombia I´d really have everything I need

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 11, 2009, 16:34:

babygirl says on Jul 2, 2009, 11:59:

The ice wine was a HUGE hit!!! It wasn't even a good icewine, just a vidal but still yummy. I shared it with some of the staff members at the beach bar I hung out at and barely got more than a few sips for myself..hehe. The manager even asked to keep the empty bottle and cork when we were done. :)

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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