Warning to you romantic gringos

elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:10:

thank you and good morning to all

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Albatross says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:17:

Damn, Elmo, you're up early this morning.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:18:

I totally agree with you.....but this post will never last a day with the Nazi Monitors

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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Albatross says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:22:

MODERATORS: Do you know what happened to the "Encantado" Post I started Friday.
I can't see it anywhere, except when I click on the "Mine" link.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:28:

Lets face it, beautiful women in Colombia charge you one way or the other. The Colombianas in the 9 or 10 range (model types) can get a rich Colombiano. They don't need gringos. Gringos do good in the 5-8 range but they still get charged though.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:29:

from the moment i stumbled onto this site, i've been warning you guys, looking out for your best interest
why? gringos are my brothers and i owe eveything to them.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:41:

Time for the Golden Rules of Survival:

1.) Kindness is weakness
2.) No good deed goes unpunished

If you fail to follow the above rules then bend over Pal because you are F^CKED

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 05:52:

"1.) Kindness is weakness
2.) No good deed goes unpunished
If you fail to follow the above rules then bend over Pal because you are F^CKED" chelespurcon

EXACTLY!!!

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 06:00:

You can be kind without spending a lot of money. If you are in a real relationship, there is no reason to be handing your girlfriend cash. Treat her like a whore and she will become one.

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 7, 2008, 06:02:

The world does not run on thin air........no hay dinero no hay vida......punto

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 06:41:

If you have a girlfriend, you take to a movie or to dinner. What more is there to spend? Any girl that asks for money is a whore. If you are going to be with a whore then go out and find the best.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:16:

Hey morph, you know what would be real kool? If we bumped into those colombianas in queens who don’t even give us the time of day, after they’ve been deported back to Colombia.
Them, now in colombia “hola mi vida coma estan? se acuerdan de mi? yo trabajaba en ese bar en la Avenida 37 en Queens, que rico verlos por aca, que se le ofrece? salgo a las 2am si quieren invitarme a tragos, listo!

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:21:

LOL...Elmo, so what can we do, call the INS?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:24:

hey morph, your reply should be:
Mira malparia if i was not good enough for you back in Queens, why am i all of the sudden attrative to you here? comete una pila de mierda perra hp jajajaja

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:29:

THats what I wanted to see happen with the guy with the pre-pago wife. Send her ass back! In Colombia she was just a run of the mill ho. Then when she got to New York all of a sudden she became a "classy" women. She has to wear the best clothes. She made the guy renovate his house, paint the place the colors she wanted....red, blue, yellow..the place looks like a fokin brothel...LOL. Meanwhile, if she went back to Colombia to live, guys would be "painting" her face for 80k pesos.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:32:

YEAH, LET'S CALL "LA MIGRA" ON THEIR ASS JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ

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arthur brode says on Jan 7, 2008, 07:46:

elmodefoque says on Monday January 7th, 2008 7:32:
YEAH, LET'S CALL "LA MIGRA" ON THEIR ASS JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
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THAT REMINDS ME OF THIS
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Omnispire says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:13:

Back on topic.
El-
Where does that put the guys who are good/reasonably looking, not necesarily loaded for cash who go to Colombia to experience the country and in the process meet a girl?

That does not mean she is a whore and it does not make him a sex tourist. They may well have a relationship that does not work out for cultural reasons in the end but is based on good intentions. Either way one of them has to give up their life as they know it to be with the other one if they are serious. And then what? disappointment, reality is different to expectations. Unexpected cultural surprises. language barriers. It still does not mean they were wrong to do it just that they have more dice loaded against them from the start. You can't predict who you are going to fall in love with.

People who go looking for love abroad without understanding all the angles deserve everything they get.I Have seen another of your posts where you talk about the red flags i.e. no interest from women before so why now. Have you suddenly got good looking. Your right to point that out but it isn't always that way so you need to be careful of generalisations. This board is read by a lot of people who don't post and every comment and post that paints a bad picture of Colombia brings it down. On another post you stated that you were descended from pure aborigines blood. Do you not care about what people think of your mother country?

El-I am interested to know your view.

It's not about the destination, its about the journey

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Omnispire says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:22:

GIB-Money is a powerful aphrodisiac for women from all nations as ultimately it brings the belief of comfort and protection for the women. In Colombia it seems to hold even more power but its not the only thing that matters. Some women are drawn by other....things. Its unfortunate that you do not seem to have met any in your life. They are there but they are bloody hard to find in any country. The funny thing is, the women say the same about decent men.

It's not about the destination, its about the journey

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borat says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:24:

but it's all about the money wherever you are, if you what to generalise, this is probably the most general perception anywhere. I haven't been to colombia and have spent minimal time in Venezuela but I have spent over 4 years in south east asia and you can see examples of what you're talking about at every turn. Young beautiful women with dodgy old westerners, (gringo = falang in asia) really old, falling to bits and you know where their motivation comes from.

On the other hand I've met many genuine, nice girls there???

what you believe is not important, it's what you do that counts

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Omnispire says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:29:

I forget who made the quote but its true

"Money is not important until you haven't got any"

Once you get to that point then you do some serious reevaluations of your life.

It's not about the destination, its about the journey

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:30:

"Where does that put the guys who are good/reasonably looking, not necesarily loaded for cash who go to Colombia to experience the country and in the process meet a girl?"

First thing you do is stay away from those whore mansions and marriage agencies. Learn to speak Spanish and make friends with decent people. The good girls will come your way.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:31:

Omni, just be very aware and keep asking youself the same question over and over, why me and not over 30 million male colombianos?
Better yet, come to queens and see if hot colombianitas are gonna be all over you like they will in colombia.
As for my lack of pride, you ever see how my people (injun) live in colombia? even blacks laugh at our poverty. I still remember passing by a black community living on the others side of el barrio abajo in barranquilla and a black kid telling me, "damn , you fokin injuns are poor! at least we eat cucayo and beans every other day, you modefoque go weeks eating only mangos and coco" he was right
Colombianas just don't give free CHUCHA to pure injuns like me, so i have no other choice but to purchase it.
for over 5 years i've been trying to make my gringos buddies aware of what could happen if they are too naive or too nice.
a good deed NEVER goes unpunished.

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Omnispire says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:50:

E- said
"Omni, just be very aware and keep asking youself the same question over and over, why me and not over 30 million male colombianos?"
I am not going to give all my secrets out!

"Better yet, come to queens and see if hot colombianitas are gonna be all over you like they will in colombia."
Its a long way to go for a walk from London but i am happy with what I have got so I won't be able to try that out but in Multi-cultural London I can't see why you would not pick up hot women of any nation if your nose is not on the other side of your face and you have half a brain. There is a large amount of Colombians living in London now so why not a Colombiana if it takes your fancy. There is someone for everybody but you have to realise what level your at and go for something of the equivalent level.

There was a study done where they pinned numbers between 1 and 10 on some skaters backs but did not tell them what number they had. They were then sent out onto the ice to find the highest number they could patch up with. The rules were you could leave the person you were with as many times as you want until you felt you were with the highest number you could get.

They found the 9s were with 8,9 and 10s and the 2's were with 1,2 and 3s. If we turn that number into attractiveness then you have something close to the dating game. For women wealth is one of the factors that goes to making a guy a attractive. If there were 2 guys and they were both similar sorts of people, similar looks etc but one was rich the woman would usually go for the one with the money. In the same way that men in the main will go for women based on the size of their tits. 2 women equal in all ways except one has a bigger breast size will find most men will go for the bigger tits.

The point is we are all looking for what we believe is the best thing for ourselves.

It's not about the destination, its about the journey

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Omnispire says on Jan 7, 2008, 08:55:

.....and another thing just because a poor background is where you have come from that is not necesarily who you are now but it would have given you some important life lessons that other kids who had it easier would not have had. Culturally speaking the native "injuns" of America have got a very rich past to draw on. Modern America's culture is relatively quite weak by comparison with roots stemming from all over the world but with no set focus. You should think about that and be proud of who you are.

It's not about the destination, its about the journey

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kentuckygreg2 says on Jan 7, 2008, 09:31:

look at Donald Trump as an example...ugly modefoque but has one helluva hot wife. If he was flat broke she wouldn't be there. :)

Same goes with other women not just in the USA but all over the world. Great points omni.

Love and happiness!

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 09:42:

Guys let me tell you something. Colombianas hate my guts and I’ll tell you why.
When I started posting here all you heard was how KIND, FRIENDLY and beautiful these Colombians were, man these guys could not get enough of them.
For days I sat and just read but chose not to get involved until I could no longer keep my big mouth shut.
Many guys spent thousands of dollars and mind boggling paper work to import their colombianas to the states.
Meanwhile I kept warning them over and over and over but yet no one listened to me.
Now I have counted a number of gringos coming back to share their nightmares with those kind, beautiful ladies. Never mind the ones too embarrassed to discuss their misfortunes.
I’m a self appointed crusader in defense of my gringo buddies about to make the biggest mistakes of their lives.
And colombianas are not the only ones to blame here, both are using each other.
One for economical reasons and the other for LAKANOOKIE REASONS.
LAKANOOKIE?? wtf does that mean, lack of CHUCHA in their nations so they have to resort to women in desperate need in third world countries.
Remember the Donald has dozen of lawyers looking out for his best interest and his women are not desperate third world women, they are top of the line Russian interesadas with million dollar CHUCHA, no colombianitas for this guy.

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toneloc24 says on Jan 7, 2008, 09:48:

Love this thread!!!

You guys hear the one about Tom Cruise and Sofia Vergara???? Kicked his ass to the curb with the quickness. As Tio Elmo stated, the NEED FACTOR wasn't there. She already had her papers.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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arthur brode says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:05:

no chit?
Sofia kicked Tom to the curb?

Tom needs to come down to Cali and visit Chipichape Mall and pull another Sofia.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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kentuckygreg2 says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:20:

LAKANOOKIE

Oh my God, that's hilarious. lol. I am grateful I don't suffer from that nor will I ever.

Love and happiness!

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:21:

ab, another sofia in Cali? in Cali???
The only place in colombia to find Sofia types is in North Curramba.
famosas monas de curramba.

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:23:

They charge though. Make sure the wallet is fat with pesos.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:30:

Height is another thing that sets many gringos apart from the vast majority of Colombianos. The average white American or European is a lot taller than the average Colombian. In most cultures, women will go for the taller guys.

That has been one of my biggest advantages in Colombia. Despite being 100% Colombian, my brother and I are 6'-1" and 6'-2" respectively while all of our cousins and most other Colombianos are lucky to hit 5'-8". Most women I meet in Colombia don't have a clue I am gringo by birth, but they sure notice how tall I am. They love it.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:36:

hey you stupid modefoque, then what happens to colombianas once they get to USA?
again let me show you. You gonna see them all patriotic and chit, attending all the local colombian event.
what happend to the gringo who imported her here? damn if i know, maybe trying to pay all that money he now owes in credit cards trying to get her here

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aztec says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:38:

I have photo's of me sitting in chairs or on sofa's in Colombia. My neees are up on my chest(not exactly). It is so funny. Very noticable and people laugh at me about it.

Funny thing is that Colombians friends aren't aware of it until they see the photo's.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:43:

while in colombia, all you hear from the above ladies is how they will never date a colombiano . too short, too poor, too ugly, but look at them now (above) jijajajajajaja
The NEED FACTOR
l

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eywed says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:47:

Funny Elmo I go to these events and I am treated like a king. I look around and not a gringo in site. The girls are great to me and ask me why am I one of the few gringos to go to their events. I go to Valleanto Concerts when ever there is one here and again not a gringo in site. But there is me , most of the time all my drinks are paid for me even by the colombian girls. I dont know NYC but I do know Tampa and if gringos only knew . Every Vallenato concert I go to there are many more women then men and lots of the single girls ask me to hook them up with a nice gringo. I am thanked more time than I can count for joining in in the Colombians events. I have lots of friends who who are Colombian who love the fact that I dont turn my nose up to the colombians and their events.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:51:

eywed, in tampa my cousins are the ones that puts all those colombian event together. they are both doctors.
I went to the second one almost 20 years ago whith a few hundred colombianos now tampa is infested with them

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minina says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:52:

The problem with you guys is that you like to go to fast when you meet a lady.

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eywed says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:53:

Easy pickens if a gringo will just join in .

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:53:

us colombian guys?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:54:

or gringos?

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eywed says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:54:

Both , even an injun like you .

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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aztec says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:56:

chorizo says on Monday January 7th, 2008 10:40:

"was it a sofa or a hamock they are not the same,you a red neck."

Was a sofa and a nice one at that. Just low to the floor.

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minina says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:57:

Gringos. Heck I even had a gringo mentioning marriage. That's crazy.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:57:

nope, they are my father's side.
Not too injun, just run of the mill COLOMBIAN SPICS NOT EXOTIC LIKE ME

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panthdave says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:58:

Again Elmo.....

panthdave Miami

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panthdave says on Jan 7, 2008, 10:58:

Where are those damn Pigeons????

panthdave Miami

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:00:

JIJIJIJIJJ
i'm on a mission from god, a crusade to save my gringo buddies from serious financial damage, but in two more weeks i'll be gone so is every man for himself

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tejasmarcos says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:02:

Great thread! Someone should write a book, but what would it be called?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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aztec says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:05:

in two more weeks i'll be gone so is every man for himself"elmodefoque

Can't you continue reporting from the front line. Consider it combat duty. Inform the folks at home of your progress.

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panthdave says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:05:

Personally a gringa will drain your bank account more than a colombiana in the long run..at least a colombiana will take off quickly...Well watch out for the Rolo's and Paisas there getting americanized JAJAJAJA

panthdave Miami

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minina says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:05:

"JIJIJIJIJJ
i'm on a mission from god, a crusade to save my gringo buddies from serious financial damage, but in two more weeks i'll be gone so is every man for himself"

More financial damage that the one they get from divorcing 2 - 3 times here in the USA to gringas?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:12:

aztec, i'll be too damn wasted, a combination of booze, drugs and CHUCHA to be of any help.

GIB, excellent idea maybe we are all dating the same 10 colombian broads. jajajajaja.
I told you, i know this pre-pago who was about to marry 5 different guys, all within months.
She wanted to drag my sorry ass to the alter too, I guess she planned to kill me and then take my 401K, but i told that bitch to fok off, i'm a married modefouqe.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:21:

be carefull, some colombianas not only will take your money but will also run you ass over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (9 times) with the benz until you head is flat as a fokin pancake.
want proof? give me 5 minutes

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:21:

I heard about that one.

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tejasmarcos says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:22:

"yea or make a photo album of the women we are dating. My guess is it is the same 10 women? They sure do like to monitor this web site, I know that for sure."

How about a most wanted list of Colombianas (like the FBI's most wanted). However, in this case it would be a "Least Wanted" list and would include the repeat offender Colombianas to stay away from................

It might read like this;

Be on the lookout for XXXXXXXX Rojas Valencia. She is armed with a great body and is considered to be dangerous to your bank account. She has most recently been seen in the Parque LLeras area and normally wears skin tight jeans, high heels and a skin tight top that shows alot of cleavage. All gringos are warned to be on the lookout for this deceptively sweet and innocent Paisa.........

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:26:

Yeah, post a picture of your novia on the worldsexarchives or internationalsexguide and at least 20 guys will know who she is and rate her service...LOL

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:26:

morph, i cant find it on youtube, any idea?
I've seen it a million times but can't find it.
you gotta see it, she wanted to make sure that modefoque was dead

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:29:

http://www.texasmonthly.com/2002-11-01/feature-1.php

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:33:

"They began meeting at the Nassau Bay Hilton, the site of his wedding reception"
(That is a quote from the article morph had posted)

This is the kind of shit that will cause a Colombiana to kill your ass.

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:33:

Behind bars where she belongs :)

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tejasmarcos says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:33:

"Yeah, post a picture of your novia on the worldsexarchives or internationalsexguide and at least 20 guys will know who she is and rate her service...LOL"

Hilarious! and no doubt true in some cases! or most cases!

"What would we call it?"

The Informed Gringo
Paisa Avoidance List (PAL)
Gringos Helping Gringos
Colombianas Helping Themselves
The "Oh My God!" List

jajajajaja

This thread is toast!

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:35:

They even made a movie about it...LOL

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:40:

I actually did some searches on some girls in Colombia on one of those sites, but didn't find any listings for girls in the smaller cities where I did most of my hunting. Granted, these are places in Southern Colombia that most gringos would not go near with an armed escort.

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morphus says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:44:

Yeah, small cities and towns are the way to go if you know what you're doing.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 7, 2008, 11:45:

It seems like most of the Colombia listings on those types of sites are for Cartagena, Barranquilla and Medellin.

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:10:

"Take them to Idaho, England, Australia, Canada"

Well, can't speak for Idaho, but in London there are heavily populated Latino barrios, as in Toronto. Hell, I've been in problems these past 6 months as the mexican girls here have dumped their latino novios....

Elmodephoque, you seem determined to cling to the notion that Latina girls will take gringos only for the money or material benefit. You are simply wrong.

Though I suppose you redeem yourself by describing the demographic of gringos that you are talking about. I will have to wait many years until I fall into that category, and only then will I ever be able to agree (or not, as the case may be) with what you claim.

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:23:

"If you have a girlfriend, you take to a movie or to dinner. What more is there to spend? Any girl that asks for money is a whore. If you are going to be with a whore then go out and find the best."

yeah, asking for free money is dubious to say the least.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:29:

mred, man i gotta see you in queens.
let me tell you what to expect from hot latinas. NOTHING!!!! NADA!!!! UN CULO!!! NO CHUCHA!!!!

there are five guys telling you the same CHIT
rubito, roci, tone, morph and me.

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:34:

I would love to go to queens!

anyway, Rubito never told me this, i thought he would go on about how many latin girls he'd date/see! And I know his canadian ass has been in New York for 10 years ;)

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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:35:

ask rubito, we could not even get hookers

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:40:

lol!

where is he anyway? he used to use this site a lot.

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Rob77 says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:44:

I agree that a serious warning to gringo's looking to score a fast, serious relationship is warranted. But, I do not agree with how you are painting Colombian women in general.

I don't doubt many guys have been put through the ringer with women who used them. But that happens in every country, including women in the US. What does NOT come out in your posts here is there are plenty of very sincere, decent, educated, Colombian women, with excellent values. Every time I read these negative posts about Colombian women I ask myself where in the heck are you meeting these manipulative, dishonest women.

I've known many Colombian women in every type of relationship. None of them have ever tried to use me. None of them have ever tried to ask me for money or gifts. In fact, I rarely ever give gifts at all. The most I ever do is to pay for dinner (nothing more than I would do in the US.) Sometimes women pay for me, and they won't take no for an answer. They come from all economic levels, wealthy to poor.

Maybe I just have a good radar for sincere/insincere women. I suspect many guys who visit Colombia look for the quickest route to finding a woman, like bars and dance clubs. Of course, it is much easier to meet a wide selection of women if you are living here. The idea of meeting and planning a relationship in a couple days, the way the agencies package relationships, just does not make sense. You have no chance to judge the sincerity and values of the women you will meet. If you put very little into knowing a woman before initiating a serious relationship, don't expect much from it.

My point is, if you are trying to paint an overall picture of Colombian women as being insincere, manipulative, obsessed with money, out to use any and all men, especially gringos, I say your view of Colombian women and the country is highly distorted, perhaps from your own skewed experiences. My experience is Colombian women are loyal, family oriented, more sincere, better educated and more sophisticated than women in other Latin countries.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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Desi1 (Moderator) says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:51:

In about five minutes I'll move this thread to off-topic.

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ellbee2 says on Jan 7, 2008, 12:59:

elmodefoque...I just spent 8 months in Colombia and I guess we run in different circles. I NEVER felt like women were after me for money. I did on occasion feel a bit of a novelty in being a Gringo, but no more than I would have a cultural interewst in someone I met, say from france, here in the States.The woman I met (socially) were all fun and classy. Some came from well to do families and some were dirt poor, but never was I asked for money or felt like I was "buying" thier affection or interest.

I'm wondering if the class of women you are drawing has to do more with your attitude towards them. I sense from reading this post and some of your other comments you don't exactly shine in the chivalry department.

I'm not so naive as to not know there are women in all cultures and economic level that seek out men to improve their lives, but to suggest that this attitude is typical of most Colombian women is a little vain on your part. To think you some how have your finger on the pulse of Colombian women and their wants and needs is a sad commentary on you.

"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going because you might not get there." Yogi Berra

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Sebastian says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:00:

For once I agree with Morph. He said, "First thing you do is stay away from those whore mansions and marriage agencies. Learn to speak Spanish and make friends with decent people. The good girls will come your way."

Morph, maybe we can get along

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:07:

I hadn't noticed that Sebastian. I agree completely too. In fact, that's one of the most accurate things I've read on this site.

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:13:

One other thing to add to what Morp said: stay far far away from the Gringos as well.......pinheads for the most part

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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tompower says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:27:

Mr.Modefoque,
The reason guys don't take your advice is because everyone thinks their girl is different. I thought my wife was different,... guess what? I was wrong. Pride and Arrogance is the mark of the gringo we do everything right! I can do this, it'll be different for me. She's special. NOPE. I failed and I am proud to say MR.MODEFOQUE you are right. I can't generalize here about colombian women because I'm a gringo noone likes me to say anything bad about colombia but you MR.MODEFOQUE are doing a noble job here warning others and ur the only expert here .KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK you going to be rewarded someday.God Bless You.

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:34:

that's bollocks tompower. every gringo is arrogant and every colombiana ditches her gringo? sorry you failed, but jesus christ, now you are just as bad, now you're saying every colombiana is like the one you had, which is quite frankly insulting.

by the f-ing way, one wonderful colombiana i met pays me and buys me flights around the world etc... tables certainly have turned biatches, but then again, what do I know, I'm just an arrogant gringo. In fact, the fact that I am nothing special proves all of these bombastic theories wrong

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Rob77 says on Jan 7, 2008, 13:43:

It's good to send a wake up call to some very naive gringos. But I'm not sure Elmo is the authority on this subject. From his posts, he has said he has been living in the US for decades.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 7, 2008, 14:33:

elmo es mas gringo que el Dolar hehehe

engage brain before opening mouth

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podborski says on Jan 7, 2008, 14:39:

all I know is I have more fun in a week in Bogota than I do in 5 years in Toronto : )

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 15:20:

I like Toronto, all things considered! I can't say the same about Bogota though, give me medellin or the coast and I'm much happier! If I wanted Bogota I'd probably just end up in the much better Buenos Aires, now there's a massive city I'd love to live in one day

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tejasmarcos says on Jan 7, 2008, 15:34:

Rob77 makes a good point. Not all Colombianas are baddies. There are alot of great girls here and that is a fact. I have met both types in my time here in MDE. The problem for gringos is figuring out which are the bad apples and that is sometimes hard to do here. Almost all the girls I meet are very sweet and feminine by nature. That tends to throw the gringo into "duh, ok" mode (stole that from Eddy Murphy Raw). We gringos are much more in tune with gringas who are on average more transparent with their intentions.

The tourist factor compounds the problem due to gringos need/desire to find someone special in a short period of time. That leaves him open and vulnerable to attack.

These opportunity girls exist in the USA as well. Gringos have all had their share of her as well.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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scotty says on Jan 7, 2008, 16:27:

Elmo you are so full of chit!
but you are entertaining.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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CatGirl says on Jan 7, 2008, 16:49:

I think the last statisics show approx 5% of the US population were sociopathic. These people are many times a person you know... This is a link to an interesting website warning women of these types of men...the characteristics are very similar in women to - equal opportunity diagnosis. Co dependent women attract these type of men and for men? Well, guys like to fix things right? They like to be the Knights in shining armor...romantic. So sociopath women will find this as easy prey...
I agree with those who have asked not to blame specifics.... People are People

http://www.takebackyourheart.com/

Purrrr

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 17:23:

acuerdo con todos, modefoq.
he speaks the truth.
listen up.

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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manINred says on Jan 7, 2008, 18:16:

goin_south, I thought you were with a Colombiana, doesn't that mean if you agree with elmodophoqe that you condone her alterior motives in being with you!?

and catgirl, you are right, people are exactly that, people, no matter where you hail from.

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john_stark says on Jan 7, 2008, 18:56:

"First thing you do is stay away from those whore mansions and marriage agencies. Learn to speak Spanish and make friends with decent people. The good girls will come your way."

Christ, Morph, I am fucking hallucinating. You're giving them what I would consider impeccable advice.

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LilaM says on Jan 7, 2008, 19:35:

that is soooooooooo true JS

"You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don´t try" B. Sills

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podborski says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:09:

morph's been morphing into a different person lately

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:14:

"First thing you do is stay away from those whore mansions and marriage agencies. Learn to speak Spanish and make friends with decent people. The good girls will come your way."

Morph were you saved at a tent revival meeting in the Bronx?

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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billyb says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:17:

I think he's become a Huckabee supporter.

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:21:

jaja. with a name like Morph, we have to allow him to morph. who is going to win, on each side, tomorrow night, in New Hampshire? I'm thinking McCain and Obama, just considering it is New Hampshire, not Iowa nor SC. SC should then be very interesting, and no, not just because I live here, but because it is SO different than New Hampshire.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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scotty says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:21:

they now have a hucka burger.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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billyb says on Jan 7, 2008, 20:34:

Looks like Obama is surging on Artillery Hillary in NH.

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scotty says on Jan 7, 2008, 21:58:

yea Hillary is dropping fast and Obama is really rising. today Hillary had a rally and 300 people showed up at the same time Obama was having a rally and over 2000 people showed up, you can see the way things are going on the Democratic side.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:02:

on cnn today, they were asking all about his wanting to raise taxes. If he will soften on that, in a big way, I think he could win the national election. As in, thinking of everyone in small business in rich, and should be taxed more. If he does not understand supply side economics, I will not vote for him.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:03:

If I was bettin man, I would bet on him to, unbelievably, to win this thing, if the national election were held today.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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john_stark says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:06:

He may get the nomination but he'll never win. America is still too racist for a black president. In another generation maybe. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if some cracker doesn't bust a cap in his ass.

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:10:

I think people will vote for him, just to prove to themselves and their neighbors they are not as rascist as they are perceived to be. You're right though, I hope we protect him better than we did the former Pakastani president that we propped up to run there.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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john_stark says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:11:

Yo tambien. I wish him well.

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:11:

How dare you all... Hijack an Elmo thread and turn it into a political forum.....

Off all things to do.... tisk, tisk, tisk....

You all should be punished!

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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john_stark says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:19:

I agree. We should be forced to give head to hundreds of hot lesbians for an entire weekend.

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:21:

JS... I'll be sure to submit your name to the committee for consideration... You never know....

But, make sure your face is like butter, nothing worse then a flippin skin rash from a mans afternoon shadow....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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john_stark says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:24:

Por supuesto, mi vida. I know you don't want to feel any stubble on that soft silky peach.

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:24:

right on, MXSaucey!

Hey, maNInred.... Elmo consistently quotes:
"...any....young....hot....Colombiana..."
and, lots of people won't listen to him...

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:30:

la campiña welcome back

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:32:

My skin is like cocoa butter, strippers used to compliment me all the time.... Damn women, they too always tried to get me to take off my top.... or undies.... =)

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:36:

undies? taken off, and then not even interested in what not with guys. no comprendo saucey, but not being a gal, what would I know about what you gals want

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:39:

C_Dawg, I'm not sure of the Strip Clubs in your part of town (South Carolina?), but, here in L.A., men are not allowed to touch the strippers..... But, women are... =)

But, then there's those strippers that just can't stop touching.... That's why I stopped going, I felt used and abused... It's really a sad story....

Oh, well....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:43:

kinkier here, if allowed at all, because of the bible belt chit. round these parts, it either aint allowed, or anything goes, until walkin tall comes in and shuts it down

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:45:

Yes, I try to avoid the ENTIRE Bible Belt States..... Being a triple minority in those parts of the country just doesn't quite appeal to me....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:49:

wise choice msaucey, believe you me. intolerance is the rule around here. Atlanta is cool though, I have to say, but 30 miles out or more, fagetaboutit. all of that from me, just to say fageaboutit.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:53:

Saucey.... it's like being in a submarine...
you jus gotta stay 'south of I-10'... and everything's goin_2 B OK.
If your scope reaches into Northern 2/3's of La....Now, that's redneck country.
south? cajun, creole...french, black, yellow... mix & match... all creeds, all kinds :-)

have we 'jackd' this tread yet?

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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scotty says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:53:

JS no cracker as you call them are gonna pop obama cuz obama is surrounded by a whole bunch of so called cracker secret service guys protecting his ass.

as far as him not making getting elected, i wouldnt be so sure about that remember Iowa is about the most so called cracker place you can find on earth with a 95% white population and they voted him in big numbers.

i agree with dawg Obama is a exciting new face, but he is still a liberal and liberals raise taxes and i vote against anyone wanting to raise my taxes. we pay enough taxes already leave the american people alone stop taking our hard earned money.

I'd vote for Huckabee and probably McCain and maybe even Rudy and yes even Obama if he will promise not to go crazy with the tax increases.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:55:

'...skin like cocoa butter...' oooh-laa-laaaaa!
feel me, touch me,...taste me!

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:56:

Thanks... you two have just reassured me to fly anytime I need to go through these areas....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 22:57:

I agree with ya on this one scotty. I actually do like, am being brainwashed, by the Obama magic. Actually, I see that is what is happening to people, and I am trying to get up to speed with it, because I believe this is going to happen, maybe. therefore, I think, because he is so green, I think we maybe could talk him down on the tax increases, with enough independents and moderate repubs working him.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:01:

ahem.
yeah.
it's even 'more dangerous' than taking the night bus in Colombia ;)

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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CatGirl says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:02:

Mmm un mas comment...the word "tolerance" has always had a bad ring to me. It implies there is an irritant that one is tolerating and still feels negative. I hope maybe they change this word to "acceptance" one day...sounds better..ok enough ...Purrr

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:02:

Oh! MS.... you were referring to js an cdawg.
pardoname

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:02:

Hell, I've taken the night bus in Colombia.... That's not dangerous in comparison to what may happen to innocent little me traveling through the bible belt....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:04:

well, I mapped out the 'safe route' for ya;
hell, now go get your mapquest out.

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:05:

(Dawg... I think she should change her handle to 'LILINNOCENTMSAUCEY')... jja

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:07:

You were able to map out a safe route between JS and C_Dawg.... GS, you're Gooddddd...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:08:

but at least in the bbelt you don't have bus drivers passing cars, with no visibility in the mountains, with my wideassed eyes, in the coffee belt of Colombia. It's a toss up, I suppose.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:10:

el biblebelt es norte de carreterra I-10.
Stay South Saucey ;)

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:11:

Good Point C_Dawg, but that IS part of the adventure of traveling at night in Colombia.... I think I can still see the "linea" by Ibague....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:11:

damn, saucey; for a moment I thought you said I was god,
and, I knew you were really lonely tonight.

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:13:

GS, I changed my signature line........ Just for you!.... =)

Heck, I think I'm going to stay sooo south of the I-10, I'll be in Colombia in no time....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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christobeldawg says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:14:

ok enough about me here tonight. what do you 2 think of me? haha bad joke. can we get back to talking about the importance of sex in a relationship?

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:17:

hey, since we're busy 'jackin treads' here tonight...
what happend to LilaM's thread from last night about "How to treat your Colombiana'' with all that juicy Barby Doll stuff in it?

I looked hi and low, and don't see it..
I warned her,...it would get twisted fast...jajja by all the polar bears. j

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

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msaucey says on Jan 7, 2008, 23:20:

C_Dawg, I had a few choice words, but I'll save them for another time.... =)

GS, I missed the entire thread.... Damn, I could definately keep a barbie thread going if you get me starte