This day had me pondering.

podborski says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:17:

well slguy, to try to restore your faith, here's a part of an email I received from a colombiana today, that probably doesn't help much unless you know her, but trust me, she is one of a kind.

"Corazon tu siempre estas conmigo (asi no sea fisicamente) porque eres la persona mas especial que he conocido y yo te quiero mucho.

Ya me tengo que ir cuentame mas cosas te escribo apenas pueda.
Un aaaaaaabrazooooooooo giganteeeeeee mucha suerte que todo mejore cada dia saludos de mi mami .

Chao pecado, un beso."

I hope one day you'll get to meet her, on a nice boat in Cartagena maybe?

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slguy says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:29:

bastard. ;)

I'm envious.

Cartagena, San Andres, wherever. The search is on, btw.

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houstongal says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:34:

Awww...how sweet Pod. I'm sure that just made your day!

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podborski says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:36:

haven't you noticed I've been being nice today?

feliz dia de san valentin!

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houstongal says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:49:

jajaaa.....just wait till tomorrow when the "real" pod is back! have a good evening!

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podborski says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:54:

once again rubito is right, us canucks are passive aggressive, just like colombians, maybe that's why there are so many of us there?

time for bed, you have a nice night too, un abrazote!

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MaFe says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:22:

That's nice...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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CatGirl says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:36:

Slgy: No Comment

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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scotty says on Feb 15, 2008, 00:33:

slguy, pondering is not allowed here. please ponder on your own time,. thank you very much

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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msaucey says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:47:

Geez, slguy.... What was in your evening tinto... to come us with such a clear comparison...

hee-hee-hee...

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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:00:

I would have come to this thread earlier to comment on the "Pondering" but I guess I was slow to mosey.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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msaucey says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:02:

Roci, you've been gone for a few days... Don't worry, I too had to dig for it...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:27:

I'm thinking I should clarify a little, so none of my gringa friends think I'm being discriminatory.

The gringas I refered to in the OP were not, I guess, representative. I was just venting a little.

The thing I see, after the ponderous pondering, is this: It's not terribly difficult to find a demanding gringa- but it's more cultural, I think, than the nature of gringas. American culture is SO friggin' materialistic, that most of us don't see our expectations as demanding. We see them as what's expected of "successful" people in America.

While the culture in latin america is a lot more about appreciating what one has, instead of always devoting so much energy to seeking more. This, in a nutshell, is what draws me to latin america. I'm tired of living to work. I want to work to live, for a change. In my experience, it's pretty easy to find like-minded souls in latin america-here, not so easy, because of cultural demands.

With all due respect to my gringo brothers who rant and rave at their mistreatment at the hands of mal-intended latinas - I'm guessing most of you got what you deserved, for not seeing/choosing to ignore obvious warning signs. I say this only out of experience. I've done the same thing. When I saw the video of my wedding (one of them anyway) and my bride was winking at her matron of honor during the "richer or poorer" part of the verbage- I should have taken a clue and left. I chose not to. It cost me. But I honestly don't fault her- I allowed it all to happen. Shame on me. (this would be the latina ex, just to be clear)

I guess my point is this - gringas can be demanding, without even realizing it - and no less demanding of themselves than of their men, often. Our society programs us to always seek material stuff, at the expense of the truly important things, I think. The latinas that can strip a guy bare? Anyone that can't see them coming pretty much gets what they deserve, IMHO.

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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2008, 11:57:

Agreed. No one gets taken to the cleaners. They willing get in the car wether they admit it or not.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:08:

I remember in Miami post-Andrew, the press was full of stories about homeowners being screwed by unscrupulous "contractors". People desperate for new roofs would hand over $40-50,000 IN CASH to people they had never seen before, simply because these guys had a pickup truck with guys in the back, and claimed to be roofers. I'm sorry, but I have about zero sympathy for people who are this, ummm, intellectually challenged.

Same way I feel about guys who are crying that latinas screwed them over, and they never saw it coming. sorry- if you don't see it coming, it's cause you ain't looking. shame on you.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:24:

Love is blind.....or should I say, love makes some go blind.

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:51:

ya see, this is my point. does falling in love necessarily mean all a guy's brains drop between his legs? jajajajjajajaja

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El Polo says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:52:

it happens ocassionaly jajaja

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:58:

SL.I agree with some things, but I can tell you that the women/girls I met in Colombia are materialistic...come on, I was surprised. They care about what brands you have, what car you have, what sector you live in, what you do, how much you make, what you can buy them....I saw no difference there with the gringas here.
I am actually disappointed, because I don't think the new generation is like my mother's generation...I might be wrong, I am young, and still have a lot to learn.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:04:

Funny that you say that MaFe. I've heard the same comment made about the women in Shanghai.

I like going to Shanghai to get clothes made at the tailors in a huge 3-story building (imagine one stall after another of fabric and tailors). I was talking to a local girl once and she had no idea where this place was. She attributed it to being because the local girls want name brands and won't go somewhere to get clothes made.

Materialism is spreading

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:32:

HG you are right...I don't think materialism is just a "GRINGO" thing...I see it here in the states with all the different nationalities, I saw it in South America, in Puerto Rico, in Europe...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:45:

are you guys telling me that I'm hopelessly idealistic? maybe I should just become a single boat bum, huh? an old pirate, shamelessly ravaging the wenches...? ;)

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:43:

NO SL..not at all, but don't put all your eggs in one basket...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:45:

i'm very happy to report that all my eggs ARE in one basket, thank-you-very-much. ;)

sorry. couldn't help myself.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:51:

SL...que chistoso...good come back!! =)

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:28:

for those of you who arent too familiar with present day sailor music...one of my barroom theme songs.

The chick who sings at about 2:00 into it isn't showcased nearly enough....her voice is something special

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:35:

Jimmy B huh?

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:07:

the man himself. I've drunk more rum and braved more waves to his music than any artist i can think of.....

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:36:

Slguy, I'm still waiting for your answer on the "Price of the Land" thread.

I don't know, I might be wrong about this, but could it not be that the gringas (Euuropeans too) are just more open and up front about their material demands than Colombians and latinas in general? Compared with the young women here, for example, the Colombians tend to be much, much more materialistic. There are plenty of "material girls" here too. but they are usually pretty open about it and will not date guys who have at least as much money in their disposal as themselves.

I don't find this same kind of economical honesty in Colombia where people are trying to strike the best deal possible, at all times and sometimes love has very little to do with it. There are, of course, genuine love matches there too, but unfortunately the socioeconomic situation of the desired spouse/partner plays a a dominant role much too often. It's traditional for the Colombian women to try to marry upwards (casarse bien).

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Feb 15, 2008, 17:48:

I haven't even looked at that other thread for a couple days, Des. But I will, tonite.

I guess maybe I'm a little nebulous about the differences in attitude gringa vs. latina. I speak from VERY limited experience with colombianas, for example. The one meaningul relationship I had with a colombiana was with fairly wealthy gal - solid estrata 6, North Bogota. I ended the relationship because of her economic expectations - but the truth is - her expectations were more based on her family's social position than on her individual greed. and except for this, I may have married her. I still adore her family- especially her mom, and communicate with all of them regularly. so - wasn't a case of scaring me off- just a case of agreeing to disagree. I'm just not cut out for pretentiousness, socially. BUT- she was honest, always. for this, I'll always adore her.

It's human nature, I guess, to raise one's expectations about life, when more options are readily available. Living in the US makes more material options available, without a doubt. Maybe it's general strength of character that really tells the tale, not culture? To retain one's core values, in the face of things that can tempt one to reevaluate, isn't always easy.

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:01:

it's only natural that every person (male/female/gringo/latino) will try to get the 'best' partner they can.

Each person will value certain attributes (wealth, looks, sense of humour etc.) differently, but try to get the set of attributes that most appeals to them.

It also makes perfect sense that people who can afford to travel will go to the places where their attributes are most highly valued.

hey, maybe I should write an economics treatise on this!

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:03:

hey...pod is here! how are you hon?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:16:

hola HG!

I'm great thanks, you?

They delivered the bar today, looks great. It's not big, but it's all that will fit. Pics coming soon

The chef will start testing the menu and training the junior staff on monday. Should be interesting...I overheard the chef telling one of the suppliers that he has 'ambitons'. I think he means he has slightly different ideas than I do over what the bar can be...what the hell, he knows better than I do, I'm going to go with it and see what happens.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:17:

So did you open up the wall downstairs? Did you tell me that the inspector came? I remember everyone being on vacation the last time we discussed this.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:18:

Wait....Jr staff???? Where did they come from? I thought you were only have 1 part-time chef. Now it's a full-time chef with staff?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:20:

yeah we cut 2 huge holes in the wall, but it's all done. Now we are going to dig up the kitchen floor (groannn). We need a bigger drain there.

I'm seriously thinking of escaping for a weekend while they do that work, i just can't bear to watch it..

No inspector...they've all gone awol..I've given up and am just plowing ahead and finishing the building, if something is done wrong I'll pay the fine.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:21:

what? the floor in the kitchen? what's up with that?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:36:

yeah things are 'evolving', as they tend to do here.

It's incredible how these people persuade you to do more than you ever planned. So, I started with contracting the chef to supply tapas that we could heat up and serve. We go along on that premise for 2 weeks and then he tells me he needs to be on site (his reputation is at stake) plus an assistant with experience...well...ok....then he needs a 'bachero' (dishwasher).

Now we also have a jr cook for the day shift. And the chef wants to train her for the first 3 months.

I do think he is well intentioned, and it is the bare minimum to run the place properly, but sometimes I still can't help but think keeping the place a bar with the bare minimum of cooking is the way to go...there are sooo many issues with having a full kitchen, staff being the biggest, but also the whole ventilation issue, cost of setting it all up...

But I'm going to give it a shot...and if it isn't working, I'll go back to plan 'A', including taking out the massive ventilation system...

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:38:

Wow.....I would've handled it completely the opposite....you know, prove yourself first, then we can consider adding.

How much time are you planning on letting this experiment run?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:46:

3 months

I also figure I get a properly set up kitchen, suppliers, trained staff (he's also going to train the waitresses and even front desk on wait the kitchen will offer).

The cost is less than what consultants quoted to do the same work, and they didn't include salaries.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:48:

ahh....i would have thought you crunched the #'s before agreeing to this. i'm anxious to hear how it turns out. if good, your place will be packed!

hey..how's that little cafe across the street doing?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:53:

well I had crunched the numbers several times before, which is why I didn't want to go down the road. But S. (the chef) convinced me it could work, that I was underestimating revenue, he thinks it will be much busier than I do, he also thinks the clientele will be more extranjeros who will be spending more. We'll see...

The thing is, you do need a bare minimum of staff, and I was kidding myself on how few I could get away with.

So now I am lowering my expectations for how profitable it will be...still good, but maybe not my most optimistic scenario

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:57:

I hope it all works out for you Pod. I know you worry about all this stuff.

So are the rooms are ready to go? Mirrors up? Mosquitos gone? ;-)

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:00:

mirrors yes, mosquitos no. i'm being eaten alive as we speak. still bloody hot, 34 degrees today, the air con guys had to stop working after 2 pm, just too hot.

we start the air con up tomorrow...

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:01:

oh the cafe. They have some business, not all that much. Damn their food is good though. I hope they make it.

Really, makes me think I could have just bought everything form them, sold it at cost, and made my money on the wine.

Might end up doing that...

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:02:

You're kidding?! Still no A/C? And you still have mosquitos? Dang...I thought that plug in thing worked pretty well. Is the hot tub in???

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:05:

no hot tub...that has to wait 'til I see if I have any money left! No one wants a hot tub in this heat anyway

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:06:

Good point. But the elevator is working?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:12:

yup. Inside needs finishing. more carpentry and mirrors...The guys who did the bar are great, and fast, but expensive...still, got to be done though.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:14:

Is everything furnished or are you still going out shopping for the decorator-type items?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:17:

have ordered almost everything, missing only a few items, mostly for the wine cellar.

wondering if I can splurge on an amazing chandelier or not...I shouldn't but it's really something..

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:19:

You found one? Where would you put it? The eating area right?

What did you decide to do with that big empty space in my bathroom? You find a small shelf unit or coat rack as I mentioned?

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:23:

BTW - I'm still trying to get on the next Argentina audit. At the rate I'm going, I'm the only one who has a knowledge of our seeds business. But I have a fear they'll stick me on India instead. I still have that 5 year visa ready to be used.

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:24:

yeah, the antique market people know me by now, and when I walk by they say hey come look at this, and they show me something they know is my style (always 'plateado', not bronze).

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:25:

I'm sure you're keeping your designer very busy.

Have you had dinner yet? Where are you this evening? Still not internet at the hotel?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:32:

I'm at the hotel, internet works great, and still just using one router, waiting for 3 boosters.

Found a new indian restaurant tonight, great roof terrace, but the food was soooo mild...damn I wish they would learn to use spices here

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:35:

You mean like how Man Tequila cooks? Whoa....just a tad too spicy for me!

Have you heard from Silvia at all? I believe she's on her Asia Pacific trip right? So glad she dumped that bf. She was fun though.

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:39:

Silvia once tried to teach my friends and I how to salsa. We were at my cabin, dancing on the dock. We made so much noise the neighbours from across the lake came over in their boat to complain. aguafiestas.

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:42:

I hope she's having fun. She deserves it!

Her timing was good. It's been a miserable winter up north this year!

Hey..how's your Mom doing? The other day go OK?

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podborski says on Feb 15, 2008, 20:02:

mom's ok, she finished her third treatment of six...but the bad days will be sunday/monday, so we'll see. She knows she just has to get through it.

How lucky we are to be healthy...

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houstongal says on Feb 15, 2008, 20:18:

I would concur Pod. Knock on wood!

At least she's halfway there! There is a light at the end of all this.....

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huskie says on Feb 16, 2008, 07:41:

Desi: I agree 100% in what you are saying, society in Colombia has changed so much in the last 25 years that it is hard to believe where morals have gone, specially when it comes to socio-economy issues and love, there is a lot of "materialistic material to go around, and as much as I don't like to say it, lower stratos of women are looking for an easy way out by engaging in actions that have been instigated by the fact that a lot of foreign man come to Colombia looking for the "perfect wife" and at the end they all get taken for a ride, as I have read sooo many times in this forum. This sort of thing was unheard off when I was growing up in Colombia. I lived in Bogota for 18years, left to go to school, married and have lived outside Colombia for 40 years but I visit Colombia often, have family there and read about all these things.
Cheers

Comment by Desi:
"I don't find this same kind of economical honesty in Colombia where people are trying to strike the best deal possible, at all times and sometimes love has very little to do with it. There are, of course, genuine love matches there too, but unfortunately the socioeconomic situation of the desired spouse/partner plays a a dominant role much too often. It's traditional for the Colombian women to try to marry upwards (casarse bien)."

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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MaFe says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:10:

HUSKIE...I agree with what you wrote,,,I also don't think it's lower to just the lower class..I have come across girls that are well off in Colombia who still see dollar signs, and want more de lo que tienen...I think rick or porr they all try to "casarse bien."

I said it once, and will say it again, Colombian women now are not like my mother's generation...they just don't make them like that anymore....

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:39:

no women in any country are like their mother's generation mafe.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 11:06:

That ignore button is a wondrous thing.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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MaFe says on Feb 16, 2008, 11:46:

SL are you talking to me? Hm...I wonder if he is ignoring me?

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 13:06:

you, MaFe? Not a chance. I was referring to the one who uses a dog's nick.jajajajajajaj

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 13:10:

Take her off your ignore slguy, she is making a lot of sense

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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huskie says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:15:

Its ok Desi, this guy, I could care less about his ignorant cognotations, I am glad though, that a lot of Gringas and Europeans are educated well enough to fend for themselves and not have to wait for the foreign "marrano" supposedly with a lot of cash to take care of them, in exchange for a few good meals at a nice restaurant, a nice hotel room with fancy sheets, a visa for the country they come from and after a couple of years... it is bye bye Honey. So in my view, all of these guys can go and get their ideal "real women" to take care of them because in many developed countries and even in those not so developed, men and women or couples, whether straight or not, if they respect each other they can take care of each other. By the way, his avatar picture says it all!!!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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huskie says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:26:

Mafe, it also happens with wealthy kids in Colombia, but it is not the same, wealthy people in Colombia usually marry within their own circle, they do not go looking for some foreigner they do not know, to take care of them, or give a visa to greener pastures...
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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CatGirl says on Feb 16, 2008, 14:42:

Huskie: "By the way, his avatar picture says it all!!!"

Sorry, not trying to fuel a fire, just not sure what you mean? Unless the Avatar was different when you posted? Maybe I am missing something. Actually Slgys Avatar is pretty symbolic of the sailors heart. The mermaid and sailor....very symbolic and mythical ;) I like his current Avatar - does not look negative at all.

If you are talking about this, huskie, try looking up the symbolic meaning behind the mermaid personality :).

Or maybe you are talking about someone else and I am far from the mark.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:53:

"Take her off your ignore slguy, she is making a lot of sense"

Dammit, Des. You sucked me into reading her diatribe. I'll not be persuaded again to change the ignore button....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:06:

Slguy, I agree with her. She agrees with me. (I'm referring to her earlier comment on the materialism in Colombia) I've seen exactly the same things happening in the Colombian society as she says. She may have a little more forceful way of saying things but she's just as right. Get over that Hillary-effect now, will you? It's over.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:12:

wasn't the hillary thing I was commenting on, des. you missed her latest attack, I assume.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:21:

I know....I wrote the "take'er off ignore" BEFORE she replied.
I like your avatar, btw. It's very romantic. You may find the reality have more relation to the kind of things huskie talks about in her rather angry reply to you, however.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:27:

Thanks- I'm glad you approve of the avatar. I like it myself - appeals to the old romantic in me, wherever he is, these days. ;)

I have NO idea what put me on her attack list today,and frankly, don't care. that mutt has made her last appearence off of my ignore list. :-)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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MaFe says on Feb 16, 2008, 18:14:

I agree with Huskie and Desi on materialism with Colombianas/women.

SL, I like your avatar...it's nice and refresing to see some romance left in people.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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slguy says on Feb 16, 2008, 18:24:

I'm pretty sure that in the end, I let all women off the hook, didn't I?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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dwmte7 says on Feb 17, 2008, 13:32:

heh there, easy money....how do you get a thread that's a mile long???huh? tell me. you must have the keys to the bank or heart...

well, i'm one of those gracious old farts that's married to colombia's very best...not just good, nor without faults, mind you, but i assure you, this lovely is the very livin best that colombia has to offer...i'll put her against any lady from the land of "C" (chocolate, coke and coffee).

so that's my two cents worth. can't say that mom hasn't driven nails up my ass on many an occassion, but by now you should no that my previous, dalient ways deserved it.

peace friend

dwmte

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