Soldiers Deserve Better

Dan says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:33:

and to think, those coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan have this to look "forward" to.

God Bless America!

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travelingirl says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:49:

I've had to shower in bathrooms like that before... but I wasn't coming back from a 15 month tour in Afghanistan either. This really is sad. :(

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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Dan says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:53:

facilities in Afghanistan and Iraq are better than this.

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travelingirl says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:54:

Yeah, when you HAVE facilities and aren't going 8 weeks without a shower. Ugh.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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Dan says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:55:

I've gone 4 and that was plenty.

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travelingirl says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:57:

I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't have a shower for a month... especially if I was in the desert getting sweaty all day. Vom.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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Dan says on Apr 29, 2008, 15:58:

the desert is so dry you don't feel the sweat so much... it's not too bad... but clothing still get's pretty dirty.

God Bless America!

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travelingirl says on Apr 29, 2008, 16:00:

"It's not too bad."

Aw, thank you for all you do for America!

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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Dan says on Apr 29, 2008, 16:06:

oh is THAT what its for? I must have forgotten that part. hahaha

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travelingirl says on Apr 29, 2008, 16:07:

Haha, I'll just keep reminding you, dearie.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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britabroad says on Apr 29, 2008, 18:37:

Dan
I don't know if your mob do the same but when I was in the military we didn't shower for a few days before going into the field so that we "smelt natural".
We'd wash our important little places with water and while in the field we used odourless wet wipes, and dental powder for our teeth. The longest I went without a proper wash was 38 days, but I found that after a few days the BO vanishes anyway. (I could never smell my own but noticed that the other guys stopped smelling) When we got back to camp the guys there said that we didn't smell too bad at all considering.
The Brit married quarters in the UK are in a pretty bad state, but the barracks are kept spotless. The UK government diverted the money from married quarters to pay for overseas pay and allowances and compensation for injured troops, without increasing the budget.
Our equipment was crap and the rations are pretty bland too.
That's why we beg, steal or borrow from you lot whenever we can.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

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MaFe says on Apr 29, 2008, 19:15:

Soldiers do deserve better...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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miamimike says on Apr 29, 2008, 22:04:

Another sad example and even worse then this was the recent Scandal exposing the Deplorable conditions at Walter Reed Med Ctr,,,Ants, Cockroaches running free in some of the wards, No A/C at times in other wards. Guess the powers to be wanted to duplicate climate conditions found in Iraq,,all this for our Soldiers gave their all for our country,,,And don't let those Politicians in Washington blather on they knew nothing about it(filthy conditions) They were in the same town and its been rumored for years in washington circles the deplorable Conditions facing our Soldiers at Walter Reed,,,

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Portena says on Apr 30, 2008, 05:39:

Thank you for serving, Dan!!!! It's really sad to see that conditions haven't changed much over the years regarding base living quarters. Many years ago a high ranking relative of mine (an officer, actually) stayed at Walter Reed (or some other base near Washington DC) to attend a special event, and the rug was stained with vomit (and smelled like it), the couch had stains all over it, and the place looked like it could use a major paint job - and this was the officer's hotel. Anyway, the place was so disgusting he left and decided to stay at a civilian hotel instead.

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Portena says on Apr 30, 2008, 05:40:

Duplicate post.

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miamimike says on Apr 30, 2008, 07:32:

In defense of some Government Hospitals, not all are bad or poorly managed. I was a patient in a Seaman's Hospital (US Public health Service)way back in my Military years for an operation. I was there approx 45 days and was amazed at the cleanliness of the wards and quality of the cooking. My back operation went off without a hitch and recovery was uneventful. A very good experience. Ironically, I went to work for this same Govermnet branch 20 years later as a Civilian Healthcare Provider. And I found out to my dismay that not all US Public Health Clinics were as well managed&Clean as the one I experienced 20 years later,,,

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morphus says on Apr 30, 2008, 08:09:

Eat one meal a day and you won't need health care.

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kalder says on Apr 30, 2008, 08:50:

My father was in the regulars in the 50s. He said they always treated you like crap. When he disembarked for the Suez Invasion, he had to sleep in a hole in the ground sans rations for the first couple of days.

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miamimike says on Apr 30, 2008, 12:05:

Kalder-I was in the Coast Guard for 4.6 years Active duty and the conditions there were exactly the opposite. We ate T-Bone steak 2 times weekly as well as Lobster Tail every friday. Berthing Conditions were spotless on the Coast Guard Stations as well on the Ships. New Seaman recruit arrivals from Boot Camp were assigned daily cleaning duties so dirt never had a happy long life in the guard. The CG was and is fanatical on cleanliness. Pitching a Cig Butt on the Grass at a CG station was punishable by hanging,,,LOL

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huskie says on May 1, 2008, 05:03:

I did some work at Walter Reed back in the 90's, and I could not believe the filth in the women's bathrooms no one seem to clean or sterilize them, scary!!
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kalder says on May 1, 2008, 07:13:

miamimike- I know the US feeds its military well, but steak and lobster....!

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morphus says on May 1, 2008, 07:32:

miamimike, I know a lot of guys that were in the Navy and regretted not joining the Coast Guard instead after seeing how good they have it.

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Dan says on May 1, 2008, 18:06:

God Bless America!

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miamimike says on May 2, 2008, 00:01:

Morphus--that is the truth! My only regret is that I didn't stay in the C Guard for 20-30 years. After Boot Camp(we had a 12 week Boot camp when I went in just like the marines and it was tough to say the least )now boots bitch about 4-6 weeks while they earn 20 times more then we did in Boot Camp. After A school for Gunner's Mates Training it was a piece of cake. Absolutely the BEST job I ever had,bar none. We had a lot of ex Navy, as well as ex army re-enlisting in the Guard.

Kalder-its true on the Food! Most of the CG duty stations are small 15-25 man units so its easy tocook for a small group and the CG didn't scrimp on Food for sure. The pay then was pretty low(though we didn't kill ourselves work wise) but all things considered it wasn't bad in hindsight. What we didn't earn in Pay we ate in food! LOL

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miamimike says on May 2, 2008, 00:07:

Kalder-here's but example of how the CG feeds it members, beloe link: "Regardless of the cutter, the cooks said crews eat well, whether it's lobster flown in from Maine, crawfish from New Orleans, individual beef Wellingtons in puff pastry, or locally butchered steaks. The kitchens accommodate food allergies, and vegetarian or kosher preferences."

http://www.dailyastorian.com/Main.asp?SectionID=2&ArticleID=38946

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travelingirl says on May 2, 2008, 00:25:

Wow, and I thought the AF had it made! Everyone always forgets about the CG.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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kalder says on May 2, 2008, 00:37:

Beef Wellington!

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dwmte7 says on May 2, 2008, 05:06:

i dont find it surprising that living conditions in the military these days are deplorable...look at the way the men are treated after returning from iraq! men whove suffered serious brain injuries, lost limbs, pds disorders, et al...... they've even been/being charged for their hospitalization after--something like--30 days. accusations which admit of a general staff/pentagon culture that is exceeding horrible. it's just beyond imagination that this is going on.

dwmte

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 11:03:

I heard some similar stories about some barracks here in the UK.. sad really :(

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