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Is the saxophone the most pretentious, unnecessary instrument in the entire canon of popular music?
Are 'haunting' and 'atmospheric' sax solos so much irksome, la-di-da rubbish?

I've often wondered. What do you think?

By kalder on Apr 4, 2008, 02:17 in Off Topic. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


kalder says on Apr 4, 2008, 02:18:

In fact, does not 'Jazz', taken in the round, have a heart of darkness?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

bamacellist says on Apr 4, 2008, 05:11:

I would agree with that, generally. There is a lot of trite sax playing and I am appalled that people like Kenny G can actually have careers. It's not entirely the instruments fault, though. We hear it too frequently in the hands of people who should be holding brooms instead. Still, I agree it's my least favorite solo instrument. Do you know there were a number of late 19th century and early 20th century Russian and French composers who thought the saxaphone belonged also in the symphony orchestra? And they especially thought of it as a solo instrument! Glazunov wrote a saxaphone concerto which I suffered the indignity of accompanying about a month ago. Talk about music that stinks to the ear!

"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."

kalder says on Apr 4, 2008, 06:16:

"There is a lot of trite sax playing and I am appalled that people like Kenny G can actually have careers. It's not entirely the instruments fault, though. We hear it too frequently in the hands of people who should be holding brooms instead."

Great reply. I actually did laugh aloud at it :)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

aztec says on Apr 4, 2008, 08:18:

kader, not sure if you are serious with the question. In any case I don't feel as you do about the instrument.

Have you ever heard the music of Dexter Gordon and John William Coltrane, both American jazz tenor saxophonist?

Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:14:

Kenny G visited a local bar here in Destin a couple of years ago. He and his peeps were such pricks, he was asked to leave. He was trying to pick-up the female bar tenders. One of my buddies was also a bar tender at the establishment and told me the story. In case your in the area, the bar is called Blue Point Fish Club.

Another musician, but resident, who frequents the same bar is Robert Plant. According to my sources, he is a really nice guy and tries very hard to remain anonymous. I hope I bump into him someday. I would be as giddy as a 9 year old girl at a Hanna Montana concert.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

kalder says on Apr 4, 2008, 12:42:

Actually, in all candour, I don't know myself how serious I'm being. Obviously, musical taste is the ne plus ultra of subjectivity, but there's something about the saxophone that makes me feel vaguely uneasy.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

kalder says on Apr 4, 2008, 12:43:

Robert- is that Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin?

Their bass player and I hail from the same town.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

aztec says on Apr 4, 2008, 13:24:

" makes me feel vaguely uneasy." Not meaning to be critical but isn't that what art might be about. You feel something when you hear the music. You don't know what it is but know there is something there.

kalder says on Apr 4, 2008, 13:34:

My unease is more of a sense of aesthetic incorrectness, a visceral feeling of something wrong with the natural order of things, rather than an potentially intriguing challenge to my cultural range. But your point is an excellent one and I'll give it some thought.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 23:49:

Yep Kalder - Robert Plant of Zeppelin. His youngest child goes to school in south Walton County. His child is friends with the children of some of the people I worked with. I couldn't believe that he actually lived here at first. I would love to meet him and buy him a pint. Again, I would probably be star-struck and act like an ass. But from what everybody tells me, he is hard to spot, very few people realize who he is, and he wants it that way. I don't blame him and maybe it would be best that I don't meet him. I could meet the President, and feel totally comfortable, but Robert Plant ... I would be non-functional.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

Man Tequila says on Apr 7, 2008, 03:49:

Yes and no. The bagpipes make me vaguely uneasy in a creppy rather than artistic way.

I don't know what I was thinking when I bought a copy of Branford Marsalis' "Romances for Saxophone" when I was in college, it is definitely on the irksome side of the spectrum.

But it can be done well. I love Morphine's album "Cure for Pain" which really does contain some haunting saxophone solos.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

greg says on Apr 9, 2008, 10:23:

Bamacellist
Just wondering if you ever played with my cousins. Tom Wiley played violin i think and i know Peter Wiley plays the cello

bamacellist says on Apr 9, 2008, 15:51:

Peter as in THE Peter Wiley from 1st chair in Cincinnati to the Beaux Arts Trio and the Guarnieri Quartet? No, I haven't had the pleasure of playing with him, although we know who he is :) I don't believe I've played with Tom, either. This biz can seem incredibly small sometimes yet it's not really true. Maybe someday...

"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."

greg says on Apr 9, 2008, 17:08:

Yea thats the Peter. Unfortunately i have never seen him play . Just thought maybe you might have run into one of them somewhere.

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