Men got the age of the women they sleep with.

CatGirl says on May 12, 2008, 09:21:

Webman

Age is only a #....

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dwmte7 says on May 19, 2008, 04:11:

cat girl...it ain't the age, it's the milage that's important.

dwmte

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MitchAlvarez says on May 19, 2008, 06:45:

dwmte good point.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Man Tequila says on May 19, 2008, 11:19:

Rats. Guess I'll have to stop sleeping with yummy mummies.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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goin_south says on May 19, 2008, 16:32:

morphus, I feel ten years younger!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?????? ... jejeje.. how fokn arrogant

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Cerealkiller says on May 20, 2008, 05:42:

Man I must be getting a pretty shitty deal if thats how it works for women as well...hahaha

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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morphus says on May 20, 2008, 06:18:

"morphus, I feel ten years younger!"

Why are you always thinking of me?

When are you going to posts some pics of you and your new family or is it too much of a freak show for us to see?

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morphus says on May 20, 2008, 09:53:

Lets see the pics! Are you that much of a freak? Its time for the jackass with a duck in his profile to reveal himself.

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slguy says on May 20, 2008, 10:10:

i'm surprised at both you guys....

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morphus says on May 20, 2008, 10:14:

Slguy, its him...not me :)

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Tinto (Moderator) says on May 20, 2008, 10:17:

Keep it civil. I know "freak" and "jack ass" aren't the worst insults in the world, but they aren't very friendly either.

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morphus says on May 20, 2008, 10:25:

Civil? I thought stalking was against the rules? I don't want anything to do with the guy.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 20, 2008, 10:36:

"Can love be created"?????

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 11:53:

Desi - jajajajaj - LOL

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 11:53:

Maybe GS is shy ;)

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dwmte7 says on May 20, 2008, 12:15:

morph....you must feel so young cause the last bed mate was 50 yrs older...no?

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 13:07:

WHAT????????????????????????????????

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morphus says on May 20, 2008, 15:39:

Yeah, WHAT??????

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slguy says on May 20, 2008, 15:42:

huh??????

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 16:42:

10 -9 that one dwmte???

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el torcido says on May 20, 2008, 21:32:

I don't say much herer, but that 2-bit hack up in jersye, morphus could put the loco patico duck on something they call IGNORE. g_s does get annoying sometimes, doesn't he?

don't know much about 'conomy

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goin_south says on May 20, 2008, 21:51:

yeah, put me on ignore; don't make me bring back another rendition of de stabbin cabin foto...jejej.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?????? ... jejeje.. how fokn arrogant

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 21:55:

Wot? Where did that come from?

Hey..did someone spike my tea again?

Are people getting a bit cranky and getting on each others nerves? Is the honeymoon over? jeje...

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 22:09:

Hey - Listen...I just had this stuff last night, ruined my week! I come on the board..and alas! Same ol' stuff here is it the Moon?

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CatGirl says on May 20, 2008, 22:13:

I think after the last 24....and all the crap.....I am done with this. I am going to just go pout somewhere.

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goin_south says on May 20, 2008, 22:48:

you could change yer name to 'Lunadelgato'

hey, what's all this crying about? no one's cranky... yer just hanging out where the testosterone runs free ....Jjjjeje...

nothing a milkbath won't cure... I'm sure... where are those slaveboyz???

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?????? ... jejeje.. how fokn arrogant

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 00:45:

G_S I think is time you stop picking on morphus, he is not seeing the funny side, he is taking it as an offense now, we had our laughed but i think the joke has gone to far really.
we don't want to be portray him as a child molester,

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morphus says on May 21, 2008, 04:57:

I don't care. I just can't believe the moderators got the nerve to email me over this freak saying i'm in the wrong. He's the one always bringing my name up and making snide remarks. Sorry if I fail to recognize his marriage step children as real. Its a farce!

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morphus says on May 21, 2008, 05:12:

G_S is always talking about 14 year old girls and the mods do NOTHING.

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 05:47:

GS ' just hanging out where the testosterone runs free ....Jjjjeje... nothing a milkbath won't cure... I'm sure... where are those slaveboyz???

Thanks for the kind words. But there's only one thing that will get me out of this funk..and it's not leche caliente.

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dwmte7 says on May 21, 2008, 06:11:

cat...you lost me on the "10-9" comment above.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 09:59:

10 - 9, it means "repeat that comment or clarify" in radio transmission world. Sorry - sometimes my days of being a taxi dispatcher a gazillion years ago comes out.

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:13:

10 - 4
10-13

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 10:25:

Morphus, you will get no sympathy from me. It's you who started it, publishing pictures of very young girls who may or may not have been underaged; which ever way they certainly LOOKED like minors

But, in all fairness, this has to stop now. Duck, stay out of Morphus hair and Morphus do us a favour and put him in ignore for the time being.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 10:25:

jeje - whats your 10-20? Hey look out its a 10-100!

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webmanco says on May 21, 2008, 10:30:

10-99 right now in Bogotá, well kind of

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 10:35:

Well, look out for Eduardo...don;t think he'll be teaching anymore English classes any time soon.

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morphus says on May 21, 2008, 11:37:

Ridiculo!

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slguy says on May 21, 2008, 11:42:

"Morphus, you will get no sympathy from me. It's you who started it, publishing pictures of very young girls who may or may not have been underaged; which ever way they certainly LOOKED like minors"

ummm...so posting fotos of young girls is "inviting" harassment (which, duck, from what i've seen, you're guilty of, amigo..).

i gotta agree w/ morph..."Ridiculo!"

ps. yesterday you're telling tom about his taste in women, today telling morph that posting pics of girls who's appearences you disapprove of is equal to beginning a childish feud? ummmm...bad week, des? ;)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 12:12:

Why do you guys make it sound like this was something I just made up? This thing about Morphus and underaged girls has been going on for a very long time now and I have NEVER commented on it, not even when everybody else was making jokes about it. And now, suddenly, it's like I JUST INVENTED IT.

I've never been a hypocrite about my distaste about adult men fooling around with teenage girls, especially in a developing country with severe income discrepancies. I was kidding Tomtom about his bad taste in women, yet those little girls in his picture cannot even be called women. However, in his avatar he's happily hugging an adult woman and it's a very nice picture indeed.

I'm having a great week, thank you.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 12:14:

jaja...ummm. I must be missing something here - from the past. I have not seen GS do this - I also am not sure if I have ever seen Morphus do it either. Not that I am complaining, jaja
No sharing - Ok?

But you really need to be more careful these days. I am sure there are many out there that look younger than they are and some that look older and are much younger than stated.

Again Dwnte - I repeat - What???? on many levels - I still have not had that answer to the 50 year old question yet I reciporcated your question.....

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 12:16:

BTW - Desi it looks like I was slow in my post. Your comment was not up when I started typing. I am a little slow today -

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 12:27:

Oh - and 2 more pesos in the pond - for what reason would a person post these type of pics on a forum such as this, but only to get a rise out of others or they really have judgement issues? Come on. Jokes are one thing...I can take jokes and fun...but pics of underage girls? Who is doing that here? Huh? You should be friggin embarrassed of yourselves. You have any kids?

Otherwise take your fetish to the appropriate friggin website. Whoever you are!!

I probably already have you on ignore anyways jejejeje

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slguy says on May 21, 2008, 12:49:

in the first place, morph claims that they are all of legal age, even here in the states. in colombia, where the age of consent is only 14? no questions. in addition, beauty/age are often in the eye of the beholder, and NONE of us are in a position to prove that any of morph's frends are 20 or 40, are we?

they're WAY too young for me to be even mildly attracted to - but no matter their ages, i'm not entitled to follow him, thread to thread, making snide comments.

i frankly don't think anyone here should be making public pronouncements about the lack of attractiveness of anyone else's dates/partners/spouses. as desi proved yesterday with tom....it can backfire and be less than the perfect situation.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 12:57:

I would never make a disrespectful comment on anybody's legitimate spouse, permanent live-in partner, significant other. Tomtom, however, has posted lots of trophy-type pictures of very young girls socially very much below his own status and I cannot take his claims of being a "boyfriend" of one of them very seriously.

Anyway, if I have offended Tomtom, I apologize.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 12:58:

Ahhh Slygy - got ya. Thanks, I am slow today but very fiesty.

That 14 year old issue. I think it goes without saying. Again, if it needs clarifying, someone has some judgement or quality control issues.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 13:36:

A 14-year old is a child. Yes, they used to marry off these girls just as soon as they got their first period. in medieval times, in third world countries, even here, 200 years ago. Physically functioning females they are mentally still children, with the capacity of judgement of a child, with the dreams and the hopes of a child. Children need to be given a chance to grow up.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 14:00:

Yep Desi ' and these days because of all the choices and fast pace some studies have upped the age of maturity to the early 20´s. Kids can´t be kids like they used to....the internet is another dangerous place now too.

Anyhoo. I think the point has been made and clarified. At least that's what it appears to me. If not, someone needs to get some serious help. Or have a rude awakening visit from the proper authorties.

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 14:08:

Anyone up to go toe to toe with me on this friggin topic? Speak now or forever hold your peas. Cause I don't usually give preemptive warnings. Last call. Next call is yours.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 21, 2008, 14:13:

back to the topic.. 62 and a 27, gezz it is a big gap...

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CatGirl says on May 21, 2008, 14:20:

jajajaja! true. But at least one is close to 30 years old, jaja

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morphus says on May 22, 2008, 04:54:

I posted a few pics of girls but they were 18 and over. Not that anybody was doing anything wrong in the pics anyway. Actually, all the girls I was seriously involved with were'nt really posted on here. I had a girlfriend in Medellin. I met her when she was 18. She was'nt living destitute. She works in a bank in Poblado and has her own car. Another girl I was with is now working as a chemical engineer. Desi has her assumptions about me. If we are going to make assumptions then I assume that Desi is snobby and racist. Maybe not true but thats how she seems to be on here. She talks about men going to third world countries and taking advantage of young women but look at her! She comes from Finland and lives high and mighty in Colombia. She's probably paying her maids 300K pesos a month to scrub her floors while she sits back with her feet up and eating gourmet foods.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 05:47:

don't get me wrong morphus, but I personally see an 18 y/o girl or boy too young to have relationship with a 30 something y/o You can say as much as you want that they are mature for their age but they are not really. a 30 year old have too much experience i will rather see a 30 y/o with a 25 onwards

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morphus says on May 22, 2008, 05:53:

Did'nt you say you were 20 but looked 15 and your husband was 30 when you met? Does that make him a perv?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 06:34:

looking young is different, still i married in my early twenties and looking back i was very inmature and too young, don't get me wrong i don't regret it, but looking back now i wish i could have waited few more years. i though i was mature for my age in that time, ha!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 06:37:

although we were both young, my husband said to me that he feels much comfortable now with me than when he met me. although in that time he did look very young for his age, many people though he was 25, and he still does look young for his age.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 10:41:

Morphus, you know even less about me than I know about you.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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aztec says on May 22, 2008, 13:01:

Morphus, it is funny how our perceptions differ. Except for one vital area where she and I disagree, I think she is put together rather well.

She does remind me of 98% of the University faculty members I worked with for 30 years. Actually, some of my best friends are faculty. We have learned to avoid those political arena's where we end up sparing.

She is similar to most of my friends in the academy in that it never dawns on them there is quite another world-view out there held by thoughtful and honest people who simply disagree in good faith. Many of us believe Collectivism managed by the State is a false Utopia.

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MitchAlvarez says on May 22, 2008, 21:33:

Kat i disagree with the whole age limit thing. I know some 18 year olds that are a lot more mature then some 25 yearolds. Im not talking just physically.

I dont think age is an issue. Unless of course she/he is underage.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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CatGirl says on May 22, 2008, 22:41:

Mitch - I agree with you on this one too. I personally never told anyone my age when younger. People always assumed I was older because of how I carried myself and I was well travelled (in other countries). I had positions equal to 30-40 even 50 yo and I was only 19 - 24. Once I revealed my age. I was treated different and to my detriment. So I empathise with "Old Souls" so to speak, jeje
Now - I am the opposite - LOL. People that have known me over the years say I act younger now than before and cuss me out cause they say I look the same (pretty much) either that or people think I am younger than I am. But I don't act irresponsible - LOL....I don;t think....jeje.
Well, yep - I have done some pretty stupid things lately..! jeje

But under age - that's a different story

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 22:46:

" I know some 18 year olds that are a lot more mature then some 25 yearolds. Im not talking just physically." (MitchAlvarez)
Sure. It works the other way too. Many women get the age of the men they are sleeping with. "Si se acuesta con un viejo ..."

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CatGirl says on May 22, 2008, 22:47:

Oh! but I must add to my Old Soul comment. It is unique...not a common thing. It is more rare, even more so these days. I think I have only met a few in my life that have reminded me of the way I was.

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CatGirl says on May 22, 2008, 22:48:

Desi...I just saw your quote...jaja. Never thought I'd see George Bush below your comments ;))

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CatGirl says on May 22, 2008, 22:53:

Ja! "Sure. It works the other way too. Many women get the age of the men they are sleeping with. "Si se acuesta con un viejo ..."

True too!...Just no video games. jeje...you know that movie with Uma Thurman - interesting. But he was not an old soul. He was a very talented and creative person. Not very mature. It was all about the physical in that story line

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 22, 2008, 22:54:

Oh, I've used Bush quotes before....they are hilarious. I especially like the one about people and fish co-existing in peace...but I have already used that one. Gotta run now...seeya

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CatGirl says on May 22, 2008, 22:57:

Nite all...time for kitty to curl up. Puurr

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goin_south says on May 22, 2008, 23:58:

people an fish coexisting?
are you kidding ??
throw me a hook, line, and stinker.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?????? ... jejeje.. how fokn arrogant

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dwmte7 says on May 23, 2008, 07:58:

kind cat...my apologies...i lost track of the "what" note about 5 miles back. if i have to make it an excuse, understand, please, that i'm quite probably the very oldest guy here. i forget things. so, if you'll kinda bring me up to date once again, i'll give it my best shot.

age isn't always my friend, but it has been a constant companion.... i know you're trying to catch up, but try as you may, i think it's a loosing proposition.

dwmte

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 07:58:

“I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.�

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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webmanco says on May 23, 2008, 09:48:

Desi
Many women get the age of the men they are sleeping with. "Si se acuesta con un viejo ..."

They get wiser, maybe not.

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 10:06:

Webman, young girls who get involved with older men tend to age very fast.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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webmanco says on May 23, 2008, 10:09:

is it true Kat?

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 10:36:

Kat was grown-up when she met her hubby. He's a few years older but the difference at this point is not significant. Perhaps they met each other somewhere in the middle of the road...she was getting more mature and he was getting younger in spirit:)

I'm talking about young girls who get involved with much older men; some of them have to mature pretty fast. I have a friend like that, was married off at 14 to a guy twice her age; mother at 15 she had to mature very fast to face her responsibilities as wife and mother. She admits, however, that she never had any youth at all.

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 10:58:

"I have a friend like that, was married off at 14 to a guy twice her age"

i'm guessing her parents will feel the devil's heat for that, some day - and deservedly so.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 11:10:

well webmanco he is nearly 11 years older than me... well i did have to grow up fast, being a mother a wife etc at such a young age, i was a kid looking after kids. about the aging fast i do agree with Desi if your husband is i will say 15, 20 years older than you,
my husband was young when i met him, ok i was younger but he still was very young, so the difference was acceptable i will say. but i would not have married someone 20 years older than me no way unless i would have been in my thirties,
now about aging well he looks young for his age, and i think I look young for mine, well people can't believe i have Teens so i will say he has good touch jejeje

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Desideria (Moderator) says on May 23, 2008, 11:27:

Slguy, her parents were the poor. small-town relatives of a wealthy family and this girl was a spectacular beauty at 18 when I first met her and befriended her. She had been sent to her relatives on Cali to study and the aunt married her off to a wealthy businessman. She was a gentle and biddable girl and would not go against the will of her relatives.

Yes, she grew up in a hurry and missed all the normal things of a teenager, dating, fooling around, parties, friends. I helped her by getting her a job to be able to finish her high school education, a little push on her way to a brilliant professional woman she is now, in spite of the opposition of her husband to her career. She salvaged her marriage too...with immense patience, gentle persuation and iron determination she was able to overcome all the obstacles and get the education and the profession she wanted; the irony of her destiny is that now, her husband is very sick and hasn't had any income for a long time for failing business they still manage to maintain a strata 6 home and lifestyle in Cali, on HER salary.

But that was just her. Many other young girls have had to sacrifice their dreams and hopes for a career to be wives of much older men and mothers at a very young age in Colombia and without having her drive and determination they have never become anything else.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on May 23, 2008, 12:27:

i admire her from afar, des.

but stick to my original opinion of her parents...and add this aunt to the list.

culture, schmulture - whart they did, or acquiesced to, was simply wrong. at least children forced into prostitution don't have to earn their living 24/7....

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CatGirl says on May 23, 2008, 12:31:

Desi "Webman, young girls who get involved with older men tend to age very fast"

I agree, or at least they have to grow up fast at least. I am not sure if it effects the aging process, jaja unless you are stressed to the gills, jaja (it could happen too)
In some cases if there is a BIG gap there is something else going on - a little insecurity - a little control issues etc..

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CatGirl says on May 23, 2008, 14:09:

Douglas - to frshen your memory first your question about addressing my question
"kind cat...my apologies...i lost track of the "what" note about 5 miles back. if i have to make it an excuse, understand, please, that i'm quite probably the very oldest guy here. i forget things. so, if you'll kinda bring me up to date once again, i'll give it my best shot.

Second is your comment that created quite a response
"morph....you must feel so young cause the last bed mate was 50 yrs older...no?
dwmte

Was this a serious implication or just one of those "moments" where you wanted to get our attention ;)) - I understand the later jejje. But if it is an implication it is a pretty strong one....uno what I mean?

And on your other comment? what I was trying to say in shorter words (but not now)
"no" I do not believe you fell of a turnip or prune truck or whatever you said ;))))
Just keep in mind that when people reveal or disclose personal info and are not aware of predatorial cyber people - they are open to some hurt. These predators and/or malicious wackadoodles don't necessarily have to be members - they only have to read the info on the board, correct?
You gotta take a written test and a physical drivers test before you can drive a car (heck in UK you are marked as a student driver for a while too)
...but for the internet - anyone can use it and they don't require you learn safety and the dangers or potential dangers. Ok - I'm done

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dwmte7 says on May 24, 2008, 05:21:

yo, done....i guess i agree, as much as i agree with anything. you're right about the internet, participation doesn't come with an instruction manuel.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 24, 2008, 11:15:

jeje....neither does parenting, but many seem to think they wrote the manual ;)) No guarantees, just be mindful ;))

OK dear Douglas

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dwmte7 says on May 25, 2008, 05:52:

hi, sweets, you didn't say where you're hangin your hat these days...

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 25, 2008, 13:07:

Dw: Hangin my hat? I dunno what you mean?

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CatGirl says on May 25, 2008, 13:22:

Wait, that's right....you asked me a question - something like "am I in Colombia?" But I asked for calrification as to why you asked this question. ?? correct? Sorry Dw - need to know why you want to know this before I answer ;)

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dwmte7 says on May 26, 2008, 16:45:

good LORD, did i hear that right.....sheer fricken curiosity. but since there's alarms here and apparently in every other thread....forget i asked. not a question that will save the race.

understand, i'm a very old timer, who hails from another era, where/when folks cherished idle prattle. the weather, the kids, the folks, etc. if you can believe this. we were farmers, in cent. calif. raised/produced thousands of acres of alfalfa....therefore as i grew up, i was a 'haybuck'. hard ass work. there's an interesting zen to it. anyway, when i first heard of hall and oates, some twenty five years ago or - i really thought they meant 'haulin oats.' makes sense, i'm a haybuck, they're 'haulin oats'.

well it wasn't until some 25 years down stream that im watching the tube and they introduce 'hall and oates'. duh..... real story.

so, dear kitty kat, i'm a country bumpkin who went off to the fair. just so happened that karma kicked it into overdrive, sent me off to berkeley 'peoples park riots', free speech sitins, etc. survived leary, hundreds of acid trips, had businesses in berkeley, palm springs, malibu santa monica, bev hills and west hollywood, did research at ucla, and worked all over the middle east, africa, india, mexico, central and south america. went to colombia originally for the enauguration of gaviria as a guest as he had studied in my home town of fresno. ended up spending the better part of 19 years there. sooooooooooo, although a pure bred hayseed, i'm definitely not your typical hayseed. i been there and done that. got 8 kids from 7 mothers and six grandchildren. the kids range from 45 to 15 and they're all beads on one string. there. i hope i've clarified my self a taste. just curiosity, dear, just curiosity.

i almost forgot, i'm livin proof that you can take the boy outta the country, you just can't take the country outta the boy. the ONLY desire i have left is to get back to the finca and watch the cows piss. how's that for an uncomplicated agenda.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 26, 2008, 17:32:

Dw: No problem....sounds like you are correct in your presentation - you have seen it all, jajaja. Timothy Leary? OMG! I will not comment on the other busyness (8 kids;). Goes without saying....love the beads on one string commment, jeje Sounds like a pretty uncomplicated agenda for sure;).
I am familiar with Central Calif. I live up in the Northern parts of CA.
So when is your launch date for your desired outcome:))...?

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dwmte7 says on May 26, 2008, 18:08:

if i remember right, young lady, you were referring to marin as no. calif. years and years ago, like '63 ish, i attended the mendocino art institute, just south of fort bragg. no there's still a lot of california above there. si o no.

re the beads...all the mother's know each other and once back in the late 70's-early '80's decided to gang up on me and take a break...'hell, they said, douglas is great with the kids, lets give em to him' so they did. i was raising 5 of them alone in los angeles...actually santa monica. a hand ful.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 26, 2008, 19:18:

Dw - Si - Kittys map is simple. All those areas or considered North ;) jjeje Berkeley is North too on Kitty's map.

Oh my all the mom's knew each other? That would be more common back in the day, but not a great idea these days, jeje. Sounds like you are incredibly resiliant. I have been step mother to 4 (part time) and that was a hand full. But it is very different when there are dynamics in place that will not change, si or no?

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CatGirl says on May 26, 2008, 19:23:

psst - especially if you are not old enough to be the biological parent...(exception of one step child)

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dwmte7 says on May 27, 2008, 05:27:

miss kitty....you couldn't be more correct. once you have children with someone, you're married for life. no options. the dynamics never cease and the best one can do is be kind and considerate and, basically, pitch in the towel and bury the hatchet. the moms are a lot like sisters with one or two exceptions. and they function a bit like a lobbying group. they usually get their way. for the foolish mistakes made in the past, i put no blame whatso ever on the mothers. it was my dalience and self centeredness that wrought all the havoc. the '60's were strange times. too many 'stiff drinks' and WAY to much 'mount and do'.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 27, 2008, 13:07:

Mr Dw: jejeej...Your notation of "they usually get their way" jejeje
I agree that once you have child with someone you are connected to that person for life, but it is "you" that creates the dynamic by what you allow and do not allow.
Some people make crappy couples...some make crappy parents, some both - Si or No?
Anyone can drink a case of mount and do.

I agree, it is best to work collaboratively. In most cases, this is more challenging between two dynamics that collide, especially in the begining. This is where the precedent should be set. From the begining;))). I think, this is when the focus should be on the child (and many times the child is more adult) and assertive action is best made to create firm guidelines and agreements - so that everyone's needs are met and the child has a strong clear picture of their "Models"....the parents. If lines are blurry...you will more than likely not have your needs met and not be very effective...in addition to possibly effecting their idea of respecting other's needs and their own when they are adults.

Kind of like what happens on the airplane when they make that emergency announcement and they instruct you about the oxygeon....what do they say?...someting like "Put the oxygeon mask on yourself first before assisting children, elderly and injured individuals"? - (Cause if you don't - your attempts are not well thought out and futile.).

OK - now in your case....with that much Estrogen....hmm - not as typical - I can see where the women can lobby....and the children can really play with that dynamic too. My heart goes out to you ;)
we all have different lessons on this Planet....sometimes it's kind of like a game of dominoes ;)

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dwmte7 says on May 27, 2008, 22:00:

or a crap shoot.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 27, 2008, 22:14:

Dw ja!
Curious? What time peroid/era did you exit Berkeley?

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docwilliam says on May 28, 2008, 17:49:

Boy o boy.....I see quite a few grey headed dudes clinching on to very young ladies. It seems to be ok for the Colombians. And what about California....I swear, the girls must be tought to hunt down older men in highschool.

I have seen many age gaps that exceed 20 years, both here in Colombia and in the states. If it works out, I am happy for the couple.

By the way....that young lady in my pic was a part of the Fiesta and posed for pics, not my gf. hahaha.

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dwmte7 says on May 28, 2008, 20:47:

hello, kitty, if this foggy memory serves me right, i'd guess i left about '67....i just got tired of school, riots, demonstrations...berkeley life in general. it was like a megalopolis, there were near 60,000 students when i left. i opened businesses after leaving, had three stores in berkeley.

dwmte

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CatGirl says on May 30, 2008, 07:37:

Dw - Well, as you know - Bazerkley has changed quite a bit since then for sure....only curious how recent it was;) Gracias

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