Court Strikes Down D.C. Gun Ban, Affirms Second Amendment Rights

Plato says on Jun 26, 2008, 12:24:

Oops! Someone please move this to Off Topic.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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ColombianoGringo says on Jun 26, 2008, 12:32:

Good news.

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tasco66 says on Jun 26, 2008, 12:33:

Don't worry, since this off topic is not posted by a mod, like this one:

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/switching-languages-can-also-swi...

It won't last long...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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sanandressi says on Jun 26, 2008, 13:56:

The Constitution definitely confers the right to individual gun ownership and what is totally scary is how 4 of these leftist judges voted the wrong way..........like TERORISTS have the same rights as US citizens.....GAG!

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Plato says on Jun 26, 2008, 14:37:

Sanandressi - agreed.

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Plato says on Jun 26, 2008, 16:27:

It's a beautiful thing:



"Jennifer Deasy shoots her Colt Government .380 caliber pistol at a target at Niagara Gun Range in North Tonawanda, N.Y., Thursday June 26, 2008. Americans can keep guns at home for self-defense, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday in the justices' first-ever pronouncement on the meaning of gun rights under the Second Amendment. (AP Photo/David Duprey)"

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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billyb says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:46:

amen.

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christobeldawg says on Jun 26, 2008, 21:47:

I WAS very surprised that 4 of them voted against something that seems to be so obvious a yes vote on. I am bothered that even these people seem to vote along party lines.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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travelingirl says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:04:

I *heart* Scalia.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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travelingirl says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:07:

It'll be interesting to see how long it takes the crime rate to go down in DC after the 21 days it has left on the gun ban.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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christobeldawg says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:26:

gun laws never seem to have any impact on the unlawful thugs[they can get a gun, no worries, regardless of the silly gov't debates].

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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travelingirl says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:28:

Yes they do... just not in the sense you are talking about, Dawg. But when the thugs realize that YOU might have a gun, they think twice about what they are about to do, and therefore crime rates can go down.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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christobeldawg says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:37:

I have a few, but I need to know how to use them, without shooting myself in the foot, and I need to somethow let the bad guys know that I have them, and am perfectly happy in firing them, if they want to unexpectantly attempt to visit me. This is the south, so that goes without saying.

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travelingirl says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:39:

Yips, I'd imagine a thug would be more likely to feel better (i.e. his own life not at risk) about robbing you in DC then in the South.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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christobeldawg says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:48:

we sort of have a truce with them, the turds, here in the south. We are loaded for bear, and they know it.

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billyb says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:37:

It has always made laugh, the logic (?) that gun control will reduce crime, like if all of a sudden lifelong criminals whose very life's is defined by breaking the law, are going to go ahead and obey this one.

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travelingirl says on Jun 27, 2008, 07:10:

Exactly.

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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Plato says on Jun 27, 2008, 07:37:

Yet, that logic is prominently spewed in the editorial pages of the New York Times:

June 27, 2008

EDITORIAL

Lock and Load

Thirty-thousand Americans are killed by guns every year — on the job, walking to school, at the shopping mall. The Supreme Court on Thursday all but ensured that even more Americans will die senselessly with its wrongheaded and dangerous ruling striking down key parts of the District of Columbia’s gun-control law.

In a radical break from 70 years of Supreme Court precedent, Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, declared that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to bear arms for nonmilitary uses, even though the amendment clearly links the right to service in a “militia." The ruling will give gun-rights advocates a powerful new legal tool to try to strike down gun-control laws across the nation.

This is a decision that will cost innocent lives, cause immeasurable pain and suffering and turn America into a more dangerous country. It will also diminish our standing in the world, sending yet another message that the United States values gun rights over human life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/opinion/27fri1.html?_r=1&ref=opinion...

Go figure.

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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travelingirl says on Jun 27, 2008, 10:51:

Knives, ropes, ice picks, etc. kill people too so we should outlaw them as well.

As for the argument about kids and accidents... we should outlaw waterbuckets because more kids under 5 yrs old drown in them then kids under 10 yrs old die from accidental gunshots. (I know, that's hard to believe.)

From 1976 to the 1990s the homicide rate increased by 12% across America (not good)... but the rate in DC tripled during that time period, which was incidentally when the gun ban was put in place (in 1976).

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

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gringoloid says on Jun 27, 2008, 15:37:

More people are killed with knives than guns.

I don't agree that the 2nd amendment is 'giving rights' to the government. When do you give rights to governments? governments don't get rights, people get rights.

Why do people pick out the 2nd amendment as going to the govt when the other articles go for individual rights?

The framers must have thought it was pretty important when they made it #2.

this is a very complicated issue.

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