Conservatives Unite

Rocco81 says on Oct 26, 2009, 14:44:

Well good luck scooby.

Sic semper tyrannis

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:11:

Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:11:

what happened on CB?

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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scooby_1781 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:30:

RAAAY says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:37:

You go Scoooby..................... What particular conservative point did you make, that some bold person took offense at..??



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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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romy says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:51:

I'm listening, express away

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:55:

capt_j says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:52:

CBlog is about 5 or 6 people talking to each other, not a real fruitful environment for discussion anyway. There is a leftward tilt here but post away and see if it gets deleted. But frankly getting involved in most political discussion is a waste of time. Nobody is going to change their mind.

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MaBarker says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:58:

Everyone's opinion is correct, we all see life through our own 'glasses' of experience and perception.

"I come to praise Darloup, not to bury him'............Julius Caesar

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RAAAY says on Oct 26, 2009, 18:35:

I just changed my mind..............


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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biskadamn (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 18:56:

Rocco81 says on Oct 26, 2009, 23:21:

ACDC Correct Sir.

Sic semper tyrannis

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kingfish5515 says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:59:

Luckily there are a lot more conservatives out here than it seems, we just dont post much!! KF

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 07:31:

jb_fastpitch says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:55:

Scooby, you'll be fine here.
Oh, one caveat, just don't deny global warming.
oh yeah, don't laugh at Obama's peace prize.
and of course, get used to the failure of American Capitalism???
Well there is another thing, you might want to apologize for slavery and imperialism from time to time.
yeah you'll be fine
oh..while you are apologizing, don't forget the occupation of Germany, Japan, North Korea, Arizona, New Mexico, California and Texas, Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, the Canal Zone.......

Choose Liberty, there is no such thing as equality.

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Rocco81 says on Oct 27, 2009, 10:44:

Well I think to simply label yourself a "Conservative" invites some criticism. I mean I have plenty of views that are in line with what people define as Conservative and others that are not so conservative at all.

I do really get sick of so many on here who resort to insults and attacks at the mere mention of an even semi Conservative Viewpoint. JB is right, it seems that no matter how much sense something may make, you get someone calling you a "nazi" or an imperialist etc. simply because you are an American who maybe doesn't love Obama or criticizes Chavez. It's just Ironic how some of the more conservative members on this board are constantly accused of bieng ingorant and biased, while just as much of the pre-judgding and ignorance is coming from their accusers.

Sic semper tyrannis

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romy says on Oct 27, 2009, 13:53:

by definition conservatives follow a 'retarded' ideology.

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Lcacique says on Oct 27, 2009, 22:13:

"I do really get sick of so many on here who resort to insults and attacks at the mere mention of an even semi Conservative Viewpoint. JB is right, it seems that no matter how much sense something may make, you get someone calling you a "nazi" or an imperialist etc. simply because you are an American who maybe doesn't love Obama or criticizes Chavez. It's just Ironic how some of the more conservative members on this board are constantly accused of bieng ingorant and biased, while just as much of the pre-judgding and ignorance is coming from their accusers."

I am not keeping score, Rocco; however, I tend to believe that the knee-jerk overreactions and personal attacks are - at the very least - equally as common on the other side of the fence. Say one positive thing about Obama and all of the sudden he is your messiah and/or you are a Stalinist. Say one bad thing about Uribe and you are pro-FARC. I am not telling you anything that you do not already know.

"Es fácil vivir con los ojos cerrados interpretando todo lo que se ve mal..." ~ J. Lennon

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billyb says on Oct 28, 2009, 05:51:

romy, shouldn't a PC guy like yourself be referring to it as a "learning disabled" ideology?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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vinod says on Oct 28, 2009, 08:09:

Those so-called conservatives who don't care for the likes of Obama tend to simply say bad things about the likes of Obama. In other words, they attack the message.

What I have noticed about so-called "liberals" is that many of them cannot deal with that, so they attack the messenger.

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scooby_1781 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 28, 2009, 08:59:

vinod says on Oct 28, 2009, 15:03:

Scooby, I am no fan of Bush Jr (or Bush senior for that matter) either. But just because I don't think much of Bush, people assume that I would kiss Obama's ass.

Obama is a disaster already. Worse than Bush even. Going from Bush to Obama is going from the frying pan to fire. Obama is redefining the term "budget deficit".

Of course, apologists for Obama will blame Bush. But our "anti-war" president has not pulled out of Iraq, and has greatly increased the US troop commitment in Afghanistan (shitholeistan). I would bet that already Obama is spending more on the military than Bush did.

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romy says on Oct 28, 2009, 16:47:

BB, I'm surprised you understood my comment as me referring to a learning disability, aren't you conservative on economics? :)

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Lcacique says on Oct 28, 2009, 17:38:

We will disagree to disagree then, vinod. I am not accusing you of the behavior described above, but I totally disagree that Conservatives only attack the message.

"Es fácil vivir con los ojos cerrados interpretando todo lo que se ve mal..." ~ J. Lennon

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vinod says on Oct 29, 2009, 17:38:

I don't like being condescending to those who vote for one candidate or another. I have seen posts in this forum that are condescending to those who voted for Bush.

Better just to attack Bush himself. Trust me, I am no fan of his. I just happen think that Obama is an even bigger calamity. I believe that millions of American baby boomers will one day (after their pensions are inflated away) curse the day he became president.

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goin_south says on Oct 30, 2009, 00:46:

damn... more conservatives coming out on p.. b... h.....
Imagine that.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Juepaje says on Oct 30, 2009, 05:36:

jb_fastpitch,

You left out Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North and South Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Florida and Virginia.

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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vinod says on Oct 30, 2009, 15:12:

Yes goin south, and I am not even a white guy.

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whitewidow says on Oct 30, 2009, 17:19:

want change? next time vote with a bullet........

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Juepaje says on Oct 31, 2009, 04:34:

Vinod,
You don't have to be white to live and enjoy living in the south. Most of my friends are not white and they all get along just fine. You will find a lot more racism in the North than the South regardless of what you have heard. Have fun. The governor of Louisiana is Indian. His parents moved there from India, I believe.

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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aztec says on Oct 31, 2009, 07:33:

Juepaje, Vinod; In my home town in Middle Georgia the Mayor, Police Chief, Fire Chief and School Superintendent are all born in America Blacks. Whites are a minority and seem to live peacefully and safely in the community. It is a "poor" County but there are no demands for the government to offer more freebies. The residents work together, go to school together and in some cases pray together with out discord.

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vinod says on Oct 31, 2009, 10:22:

Juepaje and aztec...the only race I have mentioned really is my own, and that is to make the point that the "racism" card (I have read some of Pobrecito's old postings) is used by people who have no real argument as to the issue itself.

It's really all about ideology. And in my book the "race" card holds no water when discussing ideology. Aztec, I am sure that you and I have more in common with your Mayor, Police Chief, and School Superintendant than any of us have with muslims from Pukeistan (brown guys like me) or NOI (Nation of Islam) pieces of shit (black guys like your Police Chief).

White, brown, yellow, red, or black muslims are not likely to have charitable feelings to a brown Hindu guy like me or a non muslim guy like you (whatever your race is). It was people of my own brown race (paki muslims) who were terrorizing and murdering Hindus in Mumbai a year ago.

When I criticize Obama (and Bush) in here, I have made no mention of race. I have only talked about policy.

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aztec says on Oct 31, 2009, 14:06:

vinod, of course you are correct. The Mayor is a former marine and is patriotic to the core.

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sloopskipper says on Oct 31, 2009, 16:28:

What does that mean, "a former Marine and is patriotic to the core"?

The " . . . former Marine" is not too tough to understand, but the other part?

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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miamimike says on Nov 3, 2009, 10:53:

Conservatives Unite and let your Charge be led by Half-Baked Alaska aka Sarah Palin. Forward Crusaders,,, lol

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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billyb says on Nov 3, 2009, 18:56:

Mike, I prefer Pelosi to be my guiding light.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Nov 3, 2009, 22:08:

some one's saying in Virginia, New Jersey.... something conservative.
It's good.
fuck obama and his f*kn czarships tax and spend social programs.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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christobeldawg says on Nov 3, 2009, 22:51:

Palin, Pegosi and the like are freaks. Somebody, please take me back to the times, even in these new times, of Goldwater and Reagan, moderate and strong and sensible. What went wrong, what can we do now? I will add that I liked JFK alot also.

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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goin_south says on Nov 4, 2009, 05:26:

surely, America is smiling as a nation, this morning....
.... yes, Miss Virginia,... and take off! New Jersey!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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aztec says on Nov 4, 2009, 06:37:

Welcome to the “Post-Obama” Era!

"Rarely are the American people fooled as completely and utterly as was the case on November 4, 2008.

That date, which will live in infamy along side December 7, 1941 and September 11, 2001 as watershed awful, was the date on which 69,000,000 Americans acted foolishly and voted with their hearts rather than with their minds.

Thinking minds should have alerted the American electorate of the dangers inherent in voting for a candidate with no significant experience, a history of unsavory associations, no accomplishments in nearly 50 years of life, and obvious disdain for American culture and history.

Alas, the media-inspired- hatred for George W. Bush was so intense that 69,000,000 voters fell for the smoke and mirrors and the fairy tale promise of CHANGE, without so much as a clue as to what that change might represent."

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16523

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greg says on Nov 4, 2009, 07:44:

Well at least the voters in my district, 23rd in northern NY, were smart enough not to vote for Conservative Doug Hoffman.
A Democrat in congress for the first time in 150 years! The republican candidate, Dede Scozzafava dropped out and endorsed the Democrat, Bill Owens!

Owens will probably turn out to be just another spineless Democrat but still better than the alternative.

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miamimike says on Nov 5, 2009, 11:08:

Greg, was just going to comment on this win! The Red state Boys shouldn't toot their Horns too loudly! I would say this Overshadows the Republicans other wins. To think, even after those losers palin & Fred Thompson stumped for their Boy, he lost. That was a Huge Blow to the Republicans who have held the seat for over a Century. Huge Blow to Palin also as it showed the intelligent mainstream Voters of this District didn't care what Palin had to say. These Voters didn't like Palin last November when they voted for Obama and they don't like her now. Final Ballot Count is proof of that!




""""NewsWorld newsRepublicansDemocrat wins long-held Republican seat in New York stateResult shines spotlight on deep and growing rift in Republican party between moderates and conservatives""""





A Democrat has won the race for a long-held Republican congressional seat in northern New York state.

In a race that shone a spotlight on the deep and growing rift in the Republican party between moderates and conservatives, Democrat Bill Owens beat conservative third-party businessman Doug Hoffman.


With 92% of the precincts reporting, Owens, a lawyer and retired air force captain defeated businessman Doug Hoffman, the Conservative party candidate, 49% to 45%.

"This has been an extraordinary journey," said Owens, who thanked his family, President Barack Obama and the vice-president, Joe Biden.



The seat has been in Republican hands for more than a century, most recently by a Republican whom President Barack Obama appointed secretary of the army.

Hoffman did not run on the Republican ticket because local party leaders chose Dede Scozzafava, a moderate Republican state legislator who backs same-sex marriage and abortion rights.

But top national figures in the Republican party, including former Alaska governor Sarah Palin and Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, both contenders for the 2012 presidential nomination, weighed in and rejected Scozzafava as insufficiently conservative, and endorsed Hoffman.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/04/democrat-lead-republican-s...

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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jb_fastpitch says on Nov 7, 2009, 20:45:

What is wrong with electing someone that believes in the Constitution?
Obama and the rest of his ilk consider it an impediment.
Unfortunately, there are only four people on the supreme court that are willing to support the original intent with any consistency and several look to foreign decisions to justify their rulings.

Choose Liberty, there is no such thing as equality.

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goin_south says on Nov 7, 2009, 20:55:

rest assured,.... tonights futile vote won't be an end.
If good health is your goal.... it won't come at the hands of the democrats, nor the medics.....
This ball's in your court.
But, you can let it slide.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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vinod says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:54:

In Canada we have socialized medicine.

Most people support it, but it has its flaws.

(1) If it is a condition that is not life threatening, it's "hurry up and wait". My now deceased father waited 18 months for a hip replacement. The poor guy had to endure discomfort for a bloody long time.
(2) Even if it is potentially life threatening (even cancer), you sometimes have to wait.

The only people who don't wait in Canada are the politicians. They even have their own special hospital in Ottawa. Do you think Obama and his butt buddies in Congress will wait?

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romy says on Nov 8, 2009, 12:23:

socialized medicine is Cuba, Canada is a single payer system... there's very critical differences that health policy makers consider.

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vinod says on Nov 8, 2009, 12:40:

Romy, technically you are right. But the fact remains that health care in Canada is heavily funded by the taxpayer.

And the fact also remains that for us it is "hurry up and wait".

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romy says on Nov 8, 2009, 12:56:

yes, some people believe health care is a right and others believe it is a privilege. Life expectancy and quality of life, by most measures, of Canadians is one of the highest in the world, so the system works, just some details are harder to deal with. I'm thinking your father must have refused pain management though, besides him being able take care of that himself if it was something that he really wanted to do.

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vinod says on Nov 8, 2009, 13:17:

Romy, I have no plans to give up my Canadian Health Care. It is not perfect, but then nothing ever is.

My father did not refuse pain management at all. Pain or no pain, the poor guy's mobility was severely restricted because the arthritis had degenerated his joints to the point where one leg was shorter than the other. Pain or no pain, I have to believe that it was bloody discomforting for him.

But he still had to wait. However, I will say that he had some good years after the surgery before he died. The surgery was well done.

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vinod says on Nov 8, 2009, 13:27:

Romy, by the way. I see that you were born in Argentina. I was there some years ago (in Cordoba and Buenos Aires).

One writer/investment guru whose stuff I read sometimes (Doug Casey) speaks very highly of Salta Province.

Is it worth a visit?

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romy says on Nov 8, 2009, 13:38:

Being a Porteño it's my duty to look down at the provinces jajaja... but really I've barely made it out of Buenos Aires recently, I grew up in Colombia. I went to Salta as a baby but that's no help.

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jb_fastpitch says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:28:

Vinod,
I understand quite a few brits have gone to India for medical treatment. Have you heard of that in Canada as well?

Choose Liberty, there is no such thing as equality.

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goin_south says on Nov 8, 2009, 22:12:

you must have alot more teeth than the rest of us, or....
they are just ridiculously slow in Locombia.

Do they show you a movie??

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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vinod says on Nov 8, 2009, 22:38:

Fast_pitch, I know some people who went to India for Lasik surgery. I also know people who have gone to Colombia for that.

I am not acquainted with anybody who has gone to India for other forms of treatment. I really don't have any information one way or the other.

And yes Greg, I know people who have gone to Colombia for dental work.

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aztec says on Nov 9, 2009, 12:31:

"The women that work on your teeth are nicer in Cali!" GregYohn

I just bet they are!

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billyb says on Nov 9, 2009, 19:57:

"My wife makes sure she is there with me, so I only get to smile when I leave there!"

What? Your wife doesn't want you having a "Happy Ending" at the dentist?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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miamimike says on Nov 10, 2009, 02:54:

Vinod--Salta, Argentina is a beautiful area from the pictures. A Teacher friend of mine lives there, tells me the Area has Great Trout Fishing if you are in to that type of sport as well as a famous Tourist train known as the " Tren a los Nubes".

On Indian medical care, some American Companies who self-insure ar sending their employees to India. Read about one Boss who sent his employee for Hip Replacement, another one for Open Heart Surgery. Both very successful I may add at 1/4 the US price. Last I read, there was one Hospital in India and another working on getting their US JCOH Hospital Accredidation which greatly adds to their credability here in the states. This JCOH approval is needed by many US based insurance companies for re-imbursements.

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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miamimike says on Nov 10, 2009, 03:25:

Scooby, saw this article on the recent election and thought you may be interested:

But the Democrats' soul-searching is far less compelling than the Republicans' civil war. The "tea party" conservatives -- led by Palin, Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Armey and others fed up with the GOP "establishment" -- managed to get Democrat Bill Owens elected in a solidly Republican upstate New York congressional district. They accomplished this feat by driving the Republican candidate, Dede Scozzafava, from the race because of her apostasy on abortion and gay rights.


The Palinites -- because of her star power, she's the de facto leader of the movement at this point, so it's fair to name it after her -- backed a third-party conservative named Doug Hoffman. Scozzafava pulled out and threw what support she had to Owens, who won by four points.


*****The net result is minus-one for the Republicans and plus-one for the Democrats in the House. That arithmetic seems to have escaped Erick Erickson,***** editor in chief of the Web site RedState.com, which is almost as influential in the tea party world as Palin's Facebook page. He wrote: "This is a huge win for conservatives. ... We did exactly what we set out to do -- crush the establishment- backed GOP candidate."


Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele crowed about winning the two governorships. "Assume the Heisman position. Yeah, baby. That's my moment," he said Wednesday on MSNBC. But even Steele couldn't find joy in the New York debacle. "I don't see a victory in losing seats," he said, quite logically.


The tea party people have made clear, however, that logic doesn't count -- and that this is just the beginning. The next target, now that they've made the world safe from Scozzafava, seems to be Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, who is running for the Senate. Crist committed the unforgivable sin of supporting Obama's stimulus bill, and must face a conservative former state legislator, Marco Rubio, in the primary.


Erickson wrote that "if Crist wants to own the mantle of 'GOP Establishment Candidate,' let's tie it around his waist and throw him in one of Florida's many lagoons."


I guess Florida lagoons are a substitute for Siberian tundra

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091110/OPINION09/31...

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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aztec says on Nov 10, 2009, 06:34:

miamimike can you point me to a list of JCOH Hospital Accreditations in Colombia.

I do know you can go to BlueCard Worldwide. With your insurance ID number you can search for Colombian hospitals.

https://international.mondialusa.com/bcbsa/index.asp?page=login

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miamimike says on Nov 10, 2009, 09:49:

Aztec--None in Colombia have JCOH accredidation I know of ! Security reasons probably. I heard a few Hospitals in Mexico and Brazil were working on JCOH. Too bad some Clinic like the Clinica de Santa Fe in Bogota don't seek it out, they would be , IMO, a real Winner.

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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aztec says on Nov 10, 2009, 10:08:

Thanks miamimike. The Clinic does show up on the list of hospitals "referred" from Blue Cross. I know BC/BS paid my wife's bill.

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