Christians United for Israel

markobhoy says on Jun 14, 2009, 16:29:

free palestine

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 14, 2009, 16:36:

RogueOne says on Jun 14, 2009, 16:39:

They can start by tearing down that big wall, ending the blockade, and oh yeah the apartheid.

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theflatline says on Jun 14, 2009, 17:13:

As long as they got Jews for Jesus count me in.

Colombia is chock full o assimilated jews.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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dwmte7 says on Jun 14, 2009, 17:24:

there's salient points on both sides of this fence.

patriarch

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borat says on Jun 14, 2009, 19:20:

yes, let's support Israel, let's give their government more money and hence more weapons so they can kill more babies

what you believe is not important, it's what you do that counts

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borat says on Jun 14, 2009, 19:35:

you really devalue the meaning of anti-semitism

what you believe is not important, it's what you do that counts

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romy says on Jun 14, 2009, 20:02:

Why Do Christian Conservatives Love Israel?

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quantum says on Jun 14, 2009, 20:36:

Probably no more incendiary subject on earth. Worse than politics, the economy, gay rights, etc........but if were gonna get into it, then lets do it.....How many of u really know the roots of the modern state of Israel? How many of u understand that only about 10% of the Jewish population have semitic roots. Who runs the state of modern Israel? I tell u, its certainly not the semitic Jews. They are the ones doing the dirty work, the jobs that the European causasian jews dont want to do. An American Jewish professor from Colombia University, (I believe) wrote a well researched article about who theze people are (his own) and what their origins are. And believe me, they are not in Israel......The modern state of Israel is the third largest arms producer in the world, and nuclear armed to the teeth. And Golda Meir, some years ago,was quoted as saying, "We would sacrifice the entire world to save Israel"......And this is how they THINK! How many of u know about the U.S.S. Liberty attack in 1967? A blatant, merciless attack on an American communications ship that almost succeeded. Kept quiet for so many years, and now just finally getting the attention it deserves. They really believe they pull the strings on American govt. (and maybe they do). But personally, acknowledging the educated and secular community of Israel and their fair mindedness, they are not the ones running the show. And the Zionists who are running the show will stop at nothing to achieve their single minded objective. Will I be going to any Christians United for Israel meetings? I think not.......enuff already!

quantum

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goin_south says on Jun 14, 2009, 22:06:

what ? you didn't watch the replay of L.K. live with the president of Iran tonight?

I,... Like Lacacique..and the pres of Iran............ suspect the Americans.... ajjjjajaa .

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Rocco81 says on Jun 14, 2009, 23:43:

What does this have to do with Colombia?

I'm getting pretty sick of these BS posts about American politics and even worse Isreali politics?

Sic semper tyrannis

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 00:35:

pinche colombiano-

"Your Brits really are among the most anti-semetic countires in the world"

A stupid comment. Graceless and childish. "UK vs. Israel"...good Christ, how old are you?

Three things:

a. I'm probably one of the most determined and long-suffering opponents of Jew-baiting, Holocaust denial and irrational anti-Israeli sentiment on this site.
b. I'm British
c. My views are typical of the ordinary, quietly conservative majority of my country.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 00:38:

"This site doesn't allow women bashing, muslim bashing, or negro bashing, but if its the Jewish people or Jewish nation.....no problem, PBH is your site!"

I'm afraid you're right on this one Mongo. Antisemitism seems to have the tacit approval of the authorities here. Hardly surprising I suppose, if one of the elevated 'Board of Trustees' is a Holocaust denier.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 00:55:

From the PBH Rules:

"Hate speech.
Don't post hate speech or content that is derogatory against certain groups of people. This doesn't mean you can't discuss things, just don't post things that are overly generalizing and hateful or sexist.

Actions:

We will delete the content.
For repeate offenders, we may delete their account."

On Holocaust denial:
"...such writings are not only a perverse form of anti-semitism but also an aggression against the dead, their families, the survivors and society at large." Roger Errera

So why, therefore, do claims that the systematic murder of six million innocents never happened or indeed calls to "fire up the ovens again", don't get so much as a rueful 'tut tut'?

Any ideas anyone?

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Lcacique says on Jun 15, 2009, 01:30:

There is plenty of bashing of women as well as a variety of ethnic groups. Jews are not the only ones that get ripped on.

Personally, I get a kick out of Christians standing up for the Jews. No offense to either group, but aren't many Christians supportive of the nation of Israel because they think that it is a sign of End Times? "Pack as many Jews as possible into Israel. Inspire the Second Coming. Take the Believers to Heaven and a painful Sayonara for everyone else." A bit disturbing if you ask me. I know not all Christians feel this way; however, I have heard it several times.

"Es fácil vivir con los ojos cerrados interpretando todo lo que se ve mal..." ~ J. Lennon

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 01:34:

"There is plenty of bashing of women as well as a variety of ethnic groups. Jews are not the only ones that get ripped on."

Louche bar room comments about women aren't the same as calling for a race to be exterminated.

When said 'sexist' comments are made, moderation swings into immediate action in a welter of righteous ire. Not so when criminal antisemitic slurs are made.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Chriscan (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 15, 2009, 01:53:

Monpirri says on Jun 15, 2009, 02:12:

I support the state of Israel and the Jewish people!

"Anyone who still thinks that Colombia is not a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." Darloup

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tasco66 says on Jun 15, 2009, 05:10:

I think Christians should take back Jerusalem…that should solve the issue.

Now if only I could find my great, great, great etc…..grandfather’s sword, I could start rallying PBH Knights for a final crusade…

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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quantum says on Jun 15, 2009, 06:26:

Monpirri says, "I support the state of Israel and the Jewish people." Fine Monpirri, but what would u propose for the rightful historical residents of this very limited slice of real estate? They currently live in the worlds largest concentration camp, deprived of basic needs.......now, how humane is that? I think the State of Israel has shown its colors all too often.

quantum

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dwmte7 says on Jun 15, 2009, 06:47:

finally, tasco, a plausable solution. thank you. templars to the rescue.

jews, christians, moslems....have we so easily--or conveniently--forgot, we're one blood. (nothing against other religious groups....it's just that you're not vying for the temple mount) it has all appearance of being a statement in on going fratracide,with no damn end in sight.

sometimes i agree with the wife of previous canadian pm....can't remember his/her name, but she said, 'if women ran the affairs of the world, war would come to a screeching halt and folks would concentrate on REAL issues'. well put.

the commenter above said it well....it's not jewish folks creating the ongoing problem...it's zionists. i'm neutral in this whole dog fight and have spent many wonderful times in israel...it's agreat respite if you're working in the middle east to go where things are pretty much 'westernized' and peaceful...especially after long periods in islamic countries in the mid east and africa.

if you were to ask the women/mothers/grandmothers/daughters of what ever religious persuasion in israel about all this wasteful hatred and bloodshed, they're unanamously cry out....ENOUGH ALREADY! we just want to raise our children, not bury them. it's almost oxymoronic for the three faiths to take sides...........we're one family. might as well go kill your father and brothers. sound cool? it must, we been doin it for a long, long time. pity

patriarch

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Rocco81 says on Jun 15, 2009, 07:42:

I think there are obvious issues that are just on both sides of the Arab / Israeli conflict. There is never a 100% right or wrong when it comes to politics and religion simple as that.

However, I do know that Isreali's and its American, UK , European supporters in general have a knee jerk reaction of calling anyone who question their power as an Anti-Semite. Do you all really think of Isreal as the victim in every single situation? Have you ever opened your eyes and realized the problems that they've caused to their neighbors as well? They lack of respect for the USA who funds their army? The continued expansion into new territories despite warnings and dissaproval from pretty much every other country in the world?

I think we all understand the importance of keeping Isreal safe and coming to their aid when needed..however you have to be fair and call it like you see it. Isreal cannot be left free to act with impunity using the US as the looming bully that has their back regardless of what they do. They simply must be held to the rules and regulations of all other nations, especially in such a volitile area of the world. Imagine what kind of shit would hit the fan if any other nation on this planet just started to move into its neighbors territory..not just once, but again and again...do you think anyone would just accept it? Why is this different for Isreal?

Sic semper tyrannis

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quantum says on Jun 15, 2009, 08:09:

There u have it Rocco! Why is this different for Israel? That is the ongoing question.........

quantum

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 15, 2009, 08:20:

kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 09:10:

Antisemitism is very fashionable in Britain's liberal/progressive elites. But those anti-nation, anti-family, anti-liberty claques are not representative of the ordinary British people.

And, of course, an awful lot of Muslims domiciled here salivate at the thought of a re-run of the Holocaust. But I don't consider them British.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 09:15:

"I see some reasonable criticism of Israel's policies and actions, but nothing really ant-semitic or racist. If anyone cares to point out something I missed, please do so."

Not here, no.

But do you think the same could be said of these threads?...

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/the-real-truthtime-to-end-this-...

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/good-luck-to-north-korea/

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/amazing-video-of-girl-stopping-...

They're long threads, so I'll just serve up a few of the choicer offerings that can be found therein:

How about:

"May be the Germans were right all along ,
May be its time to light the ovens back up ."

Or perhaps this gem from the Trustee Board:

"kalder says..........."The Holocaust was the attempt to systematically annihilate a race on an industial scale."

haha, can you show us a document, an order, a speech, anything at all that would back up that statement. deportation yes, annihilation, no........jews were deported 38 times from european countries, some say 45. it was the precision of allied bombing that cutoff the food supplies to the camps. why did they put them in camps if their objective was to annhilate and not just kill them outright?"

Perhaps not antisemitic by PBH standards. But considered egregiously so by most European legal systems.

Or anyone who takes a dim view of thugs chucking babies onto bonfires.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 15, 2009, 09:33:

kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 09:40:

For the record, I'm not in the least bit interested in any censorship or anyone being sanctioned. Personally, I think it's no bad thing that the haters can air their views: It affords their opponents an opportunity to defy and confound them.

And I'm emotionally wedded to the concept of free speech.

However, I've thought it odd that 'generalising about women' or posting up photos of scantily clad girls have been considered violations of the rules, whereas antisemitic abuse (apparently) hasn't.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 15, 2009, 09:47:

kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 11:44:

As I've said before- the Bolsheviks should have been burned alive. Communists have the blood of upwards of 200,000,000 on their hands.

But why should that fact lead you to deny the Holocaust? The best documented tragedy in history? For which the convergence of evidence is overwhelming?

Mad, bad? Bit of both?

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 11:48:

"I never felt that the UK was part of europe"

It's not mate :)

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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tasco66 says on Jun 15, 2009, 11:53:

OK I found the sword.

It’s time to regain control over our Holy Land!

Doug are you with me?

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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Lcacique says on Jun 15, 2009, 12:44:

Here's a nice little piece on Christian's United for Israel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig

It appears to me that many of the Christians (not necessarily anyone here) that support this cause are simply interested in sacrificing the Jews so that that they - the believers - can be carted off to paradise while everyone else rots in the aftermath of the second coming.

"Es fácil vivir con los ojos cerrados interpretando todo lo que se ve mal..." ~ J. Lennon

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kalder says on Jun 15, 2009, 13:05:

It's under a leftie dictatorship already pc.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Rocco81 says on Jun 15, 2009, 22:11:

Pinche Colombiano no truer words have been spoken here about the conflict in recent years in that part of the world...its puzzling that we Denied aid to a Christian Nation and helped out the roaming terrorists Muslims...why do we not get credit for that from the Muslim world?

Your stats are spot on and further more the Muslims were raping Serb Christian women..that was their version of polluting the Serb Christian population with thier filth.

Sic semper tyrannis

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Rocco81 says on Jun 15, 2009, 23:01:

I also gotta agree with gringoloid.

Again if you question something doesn't make you a hater Kalder.

Whey are there not monuments to all the other countless numbers of Leftists, Russians, Gypsies, Gays and the sickly that fell under Hitler ? What about the people who fell under Stalin? Why is it that every time I turn on the TV there is a program about the holocaust and the Jews? If I never picked up a book in my life (like the sad majority of todays younger population) I could easily assume the holocaust and WWII was entirely about the Jews only. Nevermind invading and bombing other countries. Nevermind Russias own anti Jewish sentiments long before WWII...its all about Germany and the Jews and there is simply way more to the story than that.

Sic semper tyrannis

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kalder says on Jun 16, 2009, 00:04:

If 100% of your family were killed in the War it still wouldn't have altered the space-time continuum and 'undone' the Holocaust.

So here you go again with your shell game- throwing out enough massacres and outrages in a vain attempt to obscure and diminish the reality of the Shoah.

Yes, I know a reasonable amount about the Ustasi. And their death camps: "Jasenovac i Gradiška Stara" and so on. So Ante Pavelić vied with Hitler to see who could be the worst assassin of innocents- How does that make the Holocaust disappear?

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Lcacique says on Jun 16, 2009, 00:05:

To the Christians that are rightfully upset about the holocaust, what is God going to do to the Jews in the end times?

"Es fácil vivir con los ojos cerrados interpretando todo lo que se ve mal..." ~ J. Lennon

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kalder says on Jun 16, 2009, 00:13:

GL keeps throwing out the playground taunt that I don't/can't read. A hollow piece of rhetoric, as I'm sure he's quite well aware.

But I would urge his little coterie of acolytes to read one brief thing and, please, to digest it- the comment of Mongo's above mine.

We're NOT trying to deny the evil done by the Communists or dismissing the horrors inflicted upon Slavs or homosexuals. We're standing up against those who wish to deny or diminish the Holocaust. Is that so hard to understand?

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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tasco66 says on Jun 16, 2009, 04:30:

“Why the United states backed the kosivars during both Clinton and G.W. bush's terms is puzzling. We help put a bunch of muslim terrorists into a region that has a ton of coal and resources in it, we expelled a people whom saved hundreds of allied airmen during the second war and we screwed the serbs. We believed a phony accusation of genocide by the musilms, claiming that 200,000 muslims were massacred by serb forces, when the actual UN number was about 1,200, and when 2,000-3,000 serbs were kille dby muslims in the region during that”

see my previous post:

http://cms.poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/kosovar-now-free-to-burn-ch...

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2009, 05:30:

tasco....saddle up! i'll just move a little slower than the rest of the templars.............going forward with a sword and shield while managing a walker is clumbsy at best.

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2009, 05:43:

you guys are hacking at each other over the body count of millions who died at the hands of ruthless murdering sots. what ever name you give it. it's a horror. and as i'm seeing the world today, it hasn't stopped. right now it appears that africa is the bloodletting capitol of the world.....no body seems to be doing anything to stop it. it was the same in europe, russia, china, central asia. seems like no body cries until there's no more blood to let. pity

for those of you who lost family, friends and cultural brethren, i think i speak for everyone when i mourn your losses. i can't imagine anyone of sound mind denying these atrocities, as it's tough to lie to one's self. but to many, the issues on one front were closer to home than those on other fronts. it's natural. if someone murders my family and then murders the family next door, with all due respect, i'm pretty certain i'm gonna be crying for mine.

what we really need to do is focus our attention on the tragedies that are occuring today, now. where real people are being hacked to death, starved, raped, dismembered and tortured in every way possible.................what's being done about it? sudan, chad, zimbabwe, nigeria, ethiopia, uganda, and even south africa. millions of people are dying, the body count rises daily/hourly. and we sit....all of us around the world...in our safety and comfort while it's going on. we're witnessing the very same horrors that filled the last century, and maybe our children and grandchildren will be witnesses, after the fact of what's going on right now.

how anyof us and i seriously include myself, grew up starry eyed, with bright hopes for the/a furture, excapes me.

d

patriarch

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tasco66 says on Jun 16, 2009, 05:59:

"going forward with a sword and shield while managing a walker is clumbsy at best."

No to worry, the barbarians will flee at the sight of your sword...

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2009, 06:58:

whew! i was beginning to worry.

patriarch

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tasco66 says on Jun 16, 2009, 07:45:

Good, now let’s first take back Constantinople and restore the Byzantine Empire, then on to Jerusalem…Yeehaaa!

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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Rocco81 says on Jun 16, 2009, 08:17:

Mongo I agree with some of what you are saying here..but have a slightly differen outlook.

I agree that Chavez and Adhimijad (sp?) are dangerous men. Period. Also I don't think anyone should deny the murders of innocent people.

Like you mentioned with the Armenians and Turks. Why did we not go in to the aid of the Armenian people? Armenians systematically killed and we did nothing. Same with Russia..if it were about saving lives why did we not stop Stalin when he slaughtered multiple times the people Hitler did? No matter what the name is...nazi, communist, whatever, those are just names but innocent people being killed is bad regardless of what we call it.

Now leaving WWII and religion aside, you brought up the movie industry, not sure if you agree but its that when big money backs people like Spike Lee and the Micheal Moorers of the world, they are held accountable in my mind. They have an agenda to get out and you know as well as I do, that as sad as it is....tons of people are influenced by these politically skewed movies. It doesn't matter if you and I want to hear them or not. Those are the people voted this last election. Those are the people that will grow up beside our children with thier fawked up one sided leftist views. Imagine if a movie was done on the other side of the political spectrum...we'de be lucky to find it on Youtube.

Sic semper tyrannis

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Rocco81 says on Jun 16, 2009, 08:22:

Oh yeah, why do you never hear about the strong Jewish influence in the Confederate States of American during the Civil War? I thought it was very interesting to learn the number of high ranking officials in the South that were Jewish. This is not an attack, just a question more or less. I was very surprised to read about that myself, but last time I was in Richmond VA I was visiting some monuments and learned quite a bit about the past of the Confederacy.

Sic semper tyrannis

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billyb says on Jun 16, 2009, 08:56:

Same with Rwanda.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2009, 13:39:

same shit....different day. talk about hollywood.....this is scene 128,756; take 12,455,765................click.

listen how pitiful our complaints sound, while every breathing second, someone, somewhere, is being raped, tortured, having their limbs/head whacked off, forced to walk through mine fields, having hot foreign objects forced into their bodies, starved, abused in a thousand different ways, and callin 911 don't change squat. and we can go home and go to bed at night....... after a nice warm supper, enjoy a tumble in the hay with mom, a drink with a friend, play with our children and generally relax to the good life. pity

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2009, 13:40:

it just seems like something in this equation is fucked.

patriarch

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El Expatriado says on Jun 17, 2009, 05:34:

I think I prefer the more light-hearted debates on whore-mongering, who is and who isn't. Whatever happened to PBS, anyway?

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dwmte7 says on Jun 17, 2009, 17:13:

plutarch.

patriarch

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Rocco81 says on Jun 21, 2009, 21:31:

PBS is buggering someone as we speak I am sure.

Sic semper tyrannis

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dwmte7 says on Jun 22, 2009, 04:29:

i swear!

patriarch

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