A POLL: lesser of two evils... Obama vs Bush

goin_south says on Sep 18, 2009, 23:04:

neither.
please.
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excuse me, but.....IF you are going to live your life by "THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS"... rather than... what is a better way..... A BETTER WAY THAN WHAT WAS... then,... you are eternally damned.
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Lesser of two evils?

Come on! bg.
I know, you're better than that.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Sep 18, 2009, 23:07:

It's okay.
Bush and Obama have gotten us where we are.
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Finally.........AWAKE.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Sep 19, 2009, 00:58:

along with... Jimmy Cahtah and Bill Clinton.

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jajaja...
hey, I gotta give Lcique something to crow back about

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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scumbuster says on Sep 19, 2009, 06:49:

Amen Mongo.. I voted for Ron Paul last election and everyone thought I was crazy and now I am looking like a genus. hahaha
Looks like the country may be waking up!!!!!!
I see Peter Schiff is now running for Criss Dodd's seat in the senate. He was Ron Paul’s economic advisor and called the economic collapse before it happened. We need to get rid of all of the bums. Start over with more common sense and less lawyers. About 80% of our elected officials are lawyers and we wonder why we are where we are now?

Tomas Jefferson “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

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RAAAY says on Sep 19, 2009, 17:46:

Scum........" I voted for Ron Paul last election and everyone thought I was crazy and now I am looking like a genus."

Ron Paul talks a lot of sense. But, talking and governing are very different. There is another thread going here about Pres Carter. If you remember, or care to look it up, Carter talked a huge amount of sense during his presidential campaign. It's a pretty universal feeling that he didn't govern very well.


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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goin_south says on Sep 19, 2009, 17:50:

igualamente papitobamito. ya.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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scumbuster says on Sep 19, 2009, 20:21:

Actually Carter was slightly before my time but I remember the affects of his presidency. Double digit inflation, Interest rates through the roof, Gas shortage, Even, Odd days to buy gas at the pumps. The failed rescue attempt of our hostages. He left quite legacy. I voted for Reagan my first election I was old enough to vote.
Ron Paul actually is a libertarian but ran as republican. He made the statement one time saying if he ran as a libertarian he would probably be defeated in his own district. That tells you one of our main problems.. People voting for the R or D before there name and not the candidate. There are so many things wrong with how things are now... Pork to buy constituents votes is huge. Special interests donating millions to candidates. There is no way to know how Ron Paul would have been as president, but I doubt he would be any worse than we have now. I know at least he would be fighting for financial responsibility in government spending.
Bush was in a hole up to his waste digging a hole for the US. Obama has brought in a back hoe to dig.

Tomas Jefferson “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

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goin_south says on Sep 19, 2009, 20:45:

Kurious, don't forget to keep a lil humour through it all.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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babygirl says on Sep 19, 2009, 23:25:

Just pick, Bush or Obama!!! It's a tough decision, I know I know but come on guys you can do it ;) If there were an election tomorrow they were the only two candidates.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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goin_south says on Sep 19, 2009, 23:27:

the world's not that simplified, bg.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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babygirl says on Sep 19, 2009, 23:44:

Ok three options for you GS, Bush, Obama, spoil your ballot. I'll be honest I'd probably either spoil my ballot or pick Bush because he's entertaining hahaha.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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lpdiver says on Sep 19, 2009, 23:56:

Actually it is too early to say. Which Bush are you referring to? IF Obama continues on his dismal track it is no contest what so ever. He could turn around and start doing better but I don't think so.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 00:19:

Yeah...............Fook that Obama................. The stock market be roaring again............the car companies re-hiring and opening plants...............the global financial crisis averted.............the economy showing growth............housing showing life..........monthly unemployment numbers halved..............America's reputation around the globe at record high numbers.....Troops leaving Iraq............. finally, a concerted effort to make something happen in Afganistan........etc etc..................but sure, fook Obama, he didn't get his new dog from a shelter.


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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 00:24:

And..............burp............if any of ye fookers would like to challange any of the above..............please.......pretty please, quote a statistic, ..............cos that's what each of the above is..............each statement above has a corresponding number, other than the Afganni thingy.................so...........by all means contradict any fact above with something other than wishful thinking.................burp.......ahhhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Lisa Zee says on Sep 20, 2009, 00:24:

Rush Limbaugh for president and Sara (bimbo) for vise president. Oh sorry wrong thread.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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scumbuster says on Sep 20, 2009, 05:17:

Kurious.. The failed rescue attempt was Carters fault for several reasons. He gutted the defence budget for one. Didn’t modernize and update. The military runs as the president wants by his appointment of defense secretary and a couple other key positions. You don’t recall Bush taking flack about the military because of Rumsfield?

Tomas Jefferson “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

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scumbuster says on Sep 20, 2009, 05:28:

Ray... Did you ever hear of a single recession that lasted forever. No matter how bad it was it would eventually turn around... And the car companies. hahahaha The only reason they are going back to work, (temporarily I might add) is because our government paid us to buy there old stock. Now with no demand again and everyone that was even slightly considering buying a car in the next 2 years has one, how long do you think they will keep working?
Oh.. and that 800 billion stimulus package that has not been spent but, oh yes, I forgot, they are spending the majority of it in 2 more years. The year leading up to the next presidential election... Buying those constituents.
But my opinion is just written off because I am a racist..

Tomas Jefferson “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 08:56:

" But my opinion is just written off because I am a racist.."

This statement is a typical example of what someone says, when the points they make have no merit.


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goin_south says on Sep 20, 2009, 09:22:

RAAY: Yeah...............Fook that Obama................. The stock market be roaring again.

Wait for Red October.
It's coming to a theater near you.
If you live in 'Merica (north! of course.)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Sep 20, 2009, 09:24:

monthly unemployment numbers halved.
RAAY, you must have been sseeeeiinngg ddoouubbllee the first time you read them.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 11:31:

GS..............I'm not quite sure what part of what I said you don't understand.What I said above..." monthly unemployment numbers halved..........."

Here are the official figuires, and the sources.

" We have seen a steady pattern of lower job losses since January, when we hemorrhaged over 700,000 jobs in that single month. August’s loss of 216,000 is sure an improvement over that, and is even a big improvement over the 276,000 lost in July, which in turn was a huge improvement over the 463,000 lost in June."


http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm



http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/2009/09/04/us-employment-report-in...

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lpdiver says on Sep 20, 2009, 14:32:

It is all based on a house of cards and is a dead cat bounce. Do you really actually THINK you can borrow your way out of debt? Well do you punk!!!! jejeje

It is the equivalent of well I can't pay my house note or car note but glory be hallelujah I got visa and mc. ANd guess what since I don't have to put out the bucks for my house and car I can PAAAARRRRTTTYYYYY!

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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goin_south says on Sep 20, 2009, 14:38:

Hey Raaay.... you're such a great guy!
To give us some stats.
And, thanks a million.
encouraging.

Now, wait for bloody, red October.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 14:50:

So......let's see.....................The response from both of ye lads is, you seem to believe that you can fore tell the future. Neat trick.
That's it...??? That's all you've got...???


Incedentially GS, the month of October has brought just a few severe stock market declines. October is also the month that marked the Dow reaching it's all time high.

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goin_south says on Sep 20, 2009, 14:54:

jajajjj.... goood, ray.
October is almost always a down month in the DJIA... right? no?

oh? that must have been 2008.... no? the all time high? (ALL TIME HIGH... now this thread should qualify for placement in the Colombia section, no?)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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lpdiver says on Sep 20, 2009, 14:56:

No RAYYYY...I can tell you the results of stupid behavior and the resulting aftermath.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 15:13:

Prior to departing this facinating, but fact starved discussion, for my afternoon libation, which today, will be some well chilled Martinis, could I direct you two nice folks in the direction of the yellow highlighted sentence below.


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lpdiver says on Sep 20, 2009, 15:21:

It is however cheap and entertaining and we don't hold your ignorance against ya buddy!!!

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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RAAAY says on Sep 20, 2009, 15:24:

Whewwwwww................that's a relief..........................chao.


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goin_south says on Sep 20, 2009, 16:11:

Now, drink down!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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quantum says on Sep 25, 2009, 20:30:

If its any;thing other than a red october, I will be amazed and relieved.......but I fully expect a bloody mess.....methinks the suckers rally is coming to a rather abrubt end.......reality is gonna take some gettin used to...

quantum

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goin_south says on Sep 25, 2009, 22:06:

something other than red october in the stock market, I believe, will ... "shake the country, shake the world".

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 25, 2009, 23:16:

I vote Obama as the lesser of the two evils, by a hair, only because he is trying to do something to save us, and seems to want to do something, and seems to at least have half a brain, versus none. I liked Bush Sr. ok, but really liked Reagan, before the senility kicked in, which was not his fault, so much. Carter was the most lame, to me. Nixon was way too much of a crook. Ford was nonexistent. Johnson was a democrat establishment career politician loser. Kennedy I liked, in the same way I liked Reagan. He was a charismatic leader who inspired us to feel good about ourselves, which is not all bad. Shall I free associate all the way back to Washington and Jefferson? Ok, well I likw Ike was...just kidding, no more.

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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christobeldawg says on Sep 25, 2009, 23:22:

oops I forgot Clinton, he was a dud, a little weanie....just ask Monica, and Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey, etc..

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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aztec says on Oct 4, 2009, 12:57:

President Obama plays the fool on world stage

"The former world's biggest celebrity is proving himself to be the world's biggest joke to our allies and enemies alike. Sadly, the joke is on us, the nation that elected him despite plenty of alarm signals.

If Obama's star has fallen this far so fast, how much worse can his presidency get for this nation over the next three years? And how much more dangerous?"

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2009/10/04/opinion/mj1701795.tx...

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vinod says on Oct 5, 2009, 16:33:

Obama is becoming more emabarrassing by the day. If I were American, I would be emabarrassed to have him as my head of state.

(1) His deficits make any other president look like a penny pincher by comparison. What will this mean for the US currency? What will this mean for PBH gringos who want to retire outside the US? What will this mean for a whole generation of baby boomers who remain in the US to retire?

(2) He bowed down and kissed the hand of the king of Saudi Arabia. I am surprised Obama didn't bend over and kiss the king's ass, or maybe even suck the king's circumcised member.

(3) In the UN he doesn’t have the balls to confront Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

(4) The Canadian Prime Minister came to the White House. Obama didn't even have the decency or dilpomatic acumen to come to the White House door to greet him, but instead sent some third level State Department bureaucrat. Then he gave Canada's PM 42 minutes of his precious time. That is no way to treat the head of government of America's largest trading partner. During the campaign that stupid chump Obama thought Canada has a president. Obama gives more time to Leno and Letterman than he does to the PM of a close ally or to his most senior military advisers. What an ass!!

(5) The guy thinks he has the cure for America's economic ills, even though he has never run a business, and has spent most, if not his whole life feeding at the government trough.

(6) Now he says he is not interested in victory in Afghanistan? What a jerk!! Why then should the soldiers have any interest in fighting?

To be fair, the Republicans didn't give Americans a very satisfactory alternative.

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