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How do you get from Lima, Peru to Brazil without going over Bolivia and Paraguay? I want to go from Lima, peru to South Brazil without transgresing Bolivia and Paraguay becuase of visa requirements by going through northern Argentina cutting accross the frontier with paraguay and then going straight to Brazil. Is this possible? How can I do it and are there buses that go that route or do I have to take a connection rides? Please be mindful that I need a visa also fro Brazil so how do I explain a roundtrip ticket when there are no direct journeys from lima to brazil going through northern Argentina? Do you have any ideas?

Thanks Andrew.

By argeano on Dec 16, 2008, 21:50 in Peru forum.

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bickerss says on Dec 16, 2008, 22:59:

You can go to Iquitos in Peru; take the day launch to Leticia in Colombia and walk across to Brazil from there. Take the boat from Tabitaga (sp) down to Manous.

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tropicalshirt says on Dec 17, 2008, 01:06:

Where do you want to go in Brazil? You say south Brazil? Sao Paulo, Curitibia? Vai para o nordeste...

Through Peru only one route as described by njc in your post a couple of lines below is:

Lima bus - Cusco truck - Puerto Maldonado collectivo etc (Peru) to Inapari (Peru) -walk- for Assis Brasil bus (Brazil) to Rio Branco (Brazil). Rough travel. You need to read up more about this route if you decided on it.

Going through Argentina the border town in Argentina is Puerto Iguazu to Foz de Iguazu in Brazil. Buses in Argentina are very good and you can travel here from anywhere in Northern Argentina easily (i.e Salta, nicest city I know in Argentina, recommended).

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paisa29 says on Dec 17, 2008, 05:06:

Lan is flying from Lima to Sao Paulo

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adrimm (Moderator) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 17, 2008, 07:47:

And routing through Colombia is an option anyhow with Bickers' suggestion - the ride between Tabatinga/Leticio an Manaus is tho is quite long.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 18, 2008, 15:23:

Since you had multiple posts on the same topic, I removed the duplicates. However, there were a few helpful comments in those, so I am reposting them here.

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njc (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 16, 2008, 22:04: flag

Andrew,

I had the exact same requirements as you. Here's what I did:

1. I went from Cuzco to Puerto Maldonado on bus, took about 26 hours and costed about S/. 60, if I remember correctly.

2. From Puerto Maldonado, I took a colectivo to Iñapari, Peru. This was another S/. 60.

3. In Iñapari, there are taxis that will take you across the border to Brasiléia, Brazil for about R$ 20.
Note: Brasiléia is right near the Bolivian border. I, like you, needed a visa to enter Bolivia but didn't want to pay for it. Brasiléia is a small town and I needed to cross over to use an ATM that would take my ATM card, so I went into Bolivia without a visa. There are no checkpoints here, and if you want to check out the Bolivian city of Cobija, it's likely that you'll pass right by the Bolivian military and they won't even ask for your passport (like I did).

4. From Brasiléia, you can take a bus to Rio Branco for R$ 15. Rio Branco has a big bus terminal, from there you can go just about anywhere.

If you're in Lima, a plane trip directly to Puerto Maldonado will be a lot faster and maybe cheaper for you.

As for an itinerary for your Brazilian visa... just doctor up something on the computer.

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durito2 says on Dec 17, 2008, 06:32: flag

I'm assuming you are from the USA... The bolivian visa is far easier than the Brazil one, though neither is really an issue at all.

Assuming you want to skip Bolivia entirely (and I wouldn't, it's great). you will have to go through northern Chile and then down into Argentina. I'm not sure the exact route, but the roads will at least be far better than trying to go through bolivia and paraguay.

I would suggest instead going into Bolivia for a bit and the dropping down into Argentina to make your way across. You won't have to explain anything to the buses, but you will have to get a visa for Brazil.

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