younger chicas - a caution

utopiacowboy says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:30:

Why is this a horror story? It sounds like everybody got what they wanted.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:32:

how, UC do you know that? Do you know these people?
Cheers,
Desi

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michaelz says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:34:

finacee Apparently, the finacee fully intended to marry the girl. That is why he sicked Immigration on her. If he just wanted to continue as her boyfriend, he would have left her in Cali.

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michaelz says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:35:

desi I have seen pictures of C. and my girlfriend together, so I am sure they know each other. Apart from that, I have to take her word for it.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:37:

Highly improbable I thought all male models were gay. ;-)



Anyway, I bet CaliPro is going to have some comments on this thread.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:43:

michaelz my question was actually directed to UC (utopia cowboy) who claimed that that everybody got what they wanted. I don't see it like that. I believe (even if the info was scanty) that actually nobody (maybe the girl) got what they really wanted. Not the girl either, if she's been deported.

Cheers,
desi

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nanis says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:45:

The problem is jumping into a relationship without getting to know the person!!

People in a relationship need to get to know each other a lot better before making such a big commitment, men need to be more aware of things like this it doesn’t just happen in Colombia it happens everywhere all these girls want of them is a “sugar daddy� someone more like a father figure, someone that they can depend on and these girls are very clever and gringos should be more aware of the real gold diggers of course there are honest and caring colombianas too but you lot need to get to know them better go and look somewhere else and don’t go for the first pretty girl you see most of them are trouble! All these inconveniences can easily be prevented, you can spend a whole life with a person and not get to know the real them but for god sake at least give it more time! If the girl is patient and she’s prepared to wait or she’s not that interested on you taking her to the USA soon then you might really be onto something there! Who knows? You need to be more careful that’s all, like my father says “you need to know who you are and please don’t lie to yourself� which basically means if you are damn ugly and a model goes after you then there’s a catch! She’s after something but if she’s not then she’s wait, she won’t be in any hurry!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 11, 2005, 11:54:

The fiancee got her into the US so he got what he wanted. He couldn't hold on to her but that was to be expected. She got to the US and now is doing whatever she wants so she should be happy. Immigration will never find her and I doubt they will even bother to look for her - there are millions of illegals here. The male model got some action from her and that was all he was interested in. So I say it's a happy story.

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jack73534 says on Feb 11, 2005, 12:01:

30 something get married to 20 something all over the world.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 12:49:

Utopia Cowboy I worked for the Department of Justice for 6 years here in Miami at the Infamous "Krome Detentin Center" and on your statement "Immigration will never find her and probably will never look for her" is not true. If I had a dime for every immigrant I saw who was caught and detained(extremely humiliating I will add-krome) who overstayed and worked with out of status papers(expired tourist visa for example) or an immigrant like the person mentioned at the top of the post-I could have retired very nicely. People usually don't hear about these people but I saw them many many times brought to the Clinic where I worked for processing crying, depressed and very scared. Depends also If the sponsor presses the issue also--if he/she makes waves and complains to their congressman/senator this can expediate the search,apprehension, detention and final deportation of the Illegal.Remember, as an Illegal, you do NOT have many rights here in the USA. And, while before when Immigration was not fully computerized, these overstayers were harder to find;fast forward to the here and now(post 9/11) and it is a much different story-oveer 100,000 were deported last year from the US. This guy best go to his congressman and make noise because as the sponsor of this woman, he can legally be held financially liable for her debts.No small bill when she has the Baby(delivery) and no Insurance in all probability. The hospital will then look the person with the Deepest Pockets and this will be the guy who sponsored her,not the Boyfriend.As they in spanish, this guy soon to be "Esta empe~ado hasta los ojos"(soon to be deep in debt)


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I have no criminal record, so will I still have to worry about being deported?

Any violation of your status in the US can potentially result in your being placed in removal proceedings. These violations generally include staying beyond the period authorized, failing to abide by the conditions of your status, or entering without proper documents. Consider the case of the immigrant from Poland who was placed in removal proceedings for overstaying his visa while caring for his ailing mother. (Source: AILA, Associated Press). Or how about a world-renowned jazz pianist, being deported for illegally entering the country at the age of 11. (Source: AILA, Los Angeles Times); Or a Hungarian student, barred from the country for five years under expedited removal process, because INS says he overstayed a visa by three months five years previously. (Source: AILA, New York Times). An immigration violation is not dependent on how long the violation took place (e.g., one day of working without authorization, or of overstay) or the age of the alien (e.g., a baby brought in illegally by his parents, is still an immigration violator).

But I am married to (or am a parent of) a US citizen.

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How do I avoid being deportable?

An immigration practicioner can advise you of the consequences of your intended action (divorce, change of employers, concurrent employment, etc.), or how to achieve your goal without negatively affecting your immigration status. An ounce of prevention is definitely worth a pound of cure in this case.

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calipro says on Feb 11, 2005, 13:30:

The world according to Calipro..... I never understood the argument on how someone else's actions were a reflection on me and what I should or shouldn't have done. You can never know someone else's heart 100%.

The story sounds pretty typical. Guy meets girl, guy loses girl. It also happens the other way around. Girl meets guy, girl loses guy. I know I'm 42 and I have dumped many a hot twenty year old for another one that knocked my shocks off even more.

No it didn't have anything to do with age. I'm not sure I can really tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 21 year old. The implication that the young model left the 30 year old guy because well he was 30 years old seems a little simplistic and well a little stupid.

The guy couldn't hang on to his girl plain and simple. I guess I'm not suppose to tell you this but I've stolen 20 something year old women away from their twenty somthing year old boyfriends. I guess needing a father figure in your life can be a powerful motivating factor. hehehe !!

The most interesting part about this post is the fact that michealz girlfriend told the story to him. If I had to guess I would say that there isn't more than a ten year age difference between michealz and his girlfiend and she sure ain't no super model. hehehe !!! It's been my experiance that most people tell stories to make themselves feel better. So michealz breath a sigh of relief, you didn't marry a younger super model and she will never leave you. hehehe!!

Anyway it doesn't do any good to speculate why their relationship didn't work out if we can't talk to either of the parties involved. For all we know the guy brought her to the states to table dance and when she didn't give him half the money like she promised he kicked her out. Actually this sounds more reasonable than she left him because he was 10 years older than her.

Happy to be of some help, Calipro

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 11, 2005, 13:49:

so you (calipro) think it's ok to take advantage/be taken advantage of anybody just because hey that's the way the ball bounces?
Next time in Cali I'll be posting your picture with the scratched-off face at all the malls, public buildings, airports, etc. in Cali as a warning for the female population in Cali.

Cheers,
Desi

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Lionheart says on Feb 11, 2005, 14:00:

I have to somewhat agree with calipro's logic While reading over the initial post I stumbled several times over the terms "modeling" and "models" ... these terms can be stretched far and wide. Allowing her to resume her modelling carreer as fiancé within the first 6 months in the USA only tells me that it was planned, for whatever reasons. Maybe he got his cut for importing her and only notified immigrations to cover his butt, maybe even that was planned. So after a certain time he can go back to Colombia and fetch another model bride and cash in. I recall another thread describing the lucrative Colombiana model business in Miami. Btw, many models supplement their income as lap dancers between photo shoots. And I can also imagine that immigrations do not look everywhere equally for illegals.

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Crazy4Cali says on Feb 11, 2005, 14:04:

Horror Story? Maybe. Surprise? Gimmeabreak!

I have a hard time finding anyone in this story who was "taken advantage of." Nor do I see much in the way of villans or victims. The closest thing to a victim is the baby, if it is ever born.

They were both living hot and fast and got burned in the process.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 11, 2005, 14:53:

you may be right, crazy and I'm way too thin-skinned. I saw it as a typical loser-loser situation and felt sorry for both of them.
Cheers,
desi

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Gomezman5 says on Feb 11, 2005, 17:21:

miamimike-I disagree. Once they get in here, they are IN to stay This is one of the few times I disagree with you....completely. Most people know that Miami (metropolitan area) is the most dangerous city to be in if you are illegal. How about Chicago, New York, Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Denver just to name a few. UC knows what he is talking about. The above cities are known as "Sanctuary cities". Cities that your chance of getting caught by immigration is almost non existant. Cities, that have huge illegal Mexican populations. They are called sanbtuary cities because the local political/law enforecment apparatus has specificlly given orders to all police and local government officials to NOT look search for or even apprehend an illegal for being illegal allone. This is done to protect the theri political standing among the local hispanics.

The ONLY way you are going to get caught being illegal in Chicago,is
if you are stupid enough to work in one of the few factories that repeatedly employs illegal workers. The immigration officials only have about 2000 workers in the entire country that are charged with catching illegals. That tells you right there about how much effort the country put is at chasing down people who overstay or enter the country illegally. Chicago, is the second largest city of illegal mexicans and I have NEVER heard of an illegal being apprehended here and deported to Mexico. MiamiMike, to proove my point, we have car washes here that employ 35-50 illegal Mexicans on any given day. EVeryday the Mexicans are there working in plain view of the world.
Do you think immigration ever goes to these car washes and raids them? Forget it. It is common knowledge that if you can cross the Mex-Us border and get 40 miles beyond the border, you are home free buddy.

Mike, because you work at Krome, you get a very distorted view of how many illegals are actually causght. Believe me it is very FEW. If our regular law enforcement system was as weak as or immigration enforcement system, we would be the most lawless society on earth

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 17:22:

Why would the guy bring a 'model' back with him? Models tend to be very self-centered people and I don't think there was ever a chance this girl was going to stay with this average guy here in the states. She appeared on some Univision show? Yeah, that girlie was destined to be with someone other than an average schmuck in the states. If you are like calipro and just want a 21 year old for some good times, go for it. If you want something serious, better add some years to that and she shouldn't be a 'model'. just my opinion

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greenday says on Feb 11, 2005, 17:45:

here we go with the "age" thing again. It's plain and simple...the gringo didn't have what it takes to keep the girl happy, whether that be looks, money, power, libido, or all of the above. Age had NOTHING to do with it. Donald Trump just married a super model at least 25 years younger than him. You'll never see her leaving him for a "good-looking, young male model". This guy should never have married the girl, not because of the age difference, but, as Clint Eastwood once stated in one of his movies (can't remember which one), "a man needs to know his limitations".

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calipro says on Feb 11, 2005, 18:31:

Help for the co-dependent..... I really feel sorry when I hear guys that have obviously had bad experiances with very attractive women to avoid young beautiful women at all costs. Models need love to;-)

fzdan does have a point. The more humble your partner is the less likely it is that they will ever leave you. But, it takes two to make a relationship last forever and that means you better be humble also. fzdan is probably a really nice, humble guy. Who else could rationalize the benefits of having a some what unattractive spouse. hehehe!!

Before I get carried away singing the praises of marrying an older less attractive woman I would like to remind everybody (that thinks longevity in a realationship equals success)that just because a woman doesn't leave you doesn't mean that she necessarily loves you.

I forget who it was that suggested that oldgringos young wife would leave him if and when she had to help him change his colostimy bag "poop bag" but even if you had an older wife she might also be very resentful even if she never left you. What's worst having your young wife leave you or having to live with a resentful old bitch that is pasive agressive at every turn. Do you really want to open your lunch and find out that your wife made your tuna fish sandwich with mustard instead of mayo. Yes, it is sometimes better to live alone but of course my ability to suck it up and take crap from anyone has always been very, very low.

If I had to rate my humility on a scale from 1 to 10 I would give myself a one. Yes I'm doomed to date models my whole life because there just isn't much room for compromise. But, I'm me and you are you so if you can't attract a hot model then by all means get humble and sing the praises of semi-attractive women and longevity.

Speaking of humility, I would like to say that it is one of great advantages of looking for a wife in Colombia. Everything being equal colombianas are more humble than their amercian counter parts. Are the models less humble than the gorditas? yes But, they are certainly more humble than american women of a similar caliber. They all seem to fall in love easier than american women. Hey, don't take my word for it. Ask any colombiano, except for Elmo.

I know there are some of you out there that just have a pathetically low opinion of women in general and colombianas in particular. I know that you like to think of the young women that date older guys as green card sharks and gold diggers. Well if you are a guy, I suggest that you spend a couple of months in Cali dating women. Don't buy them a thing. Never talk about marriage. In fact talk about leaving the states and living in Cali. I think you will pleasantly suprised at the beautiful women that you will be able attract and date for long periods of time. If not get humble and find yourself a gordita or two. For sure they really love you, right? hehehe !!

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vladimiro says on Feb 11, 2005, 18:35:

Its Unfortunate that this site doesn't have more Colombian posters. Reading "Porque nos orgullecemos de tanta pendejada" and other posts where Colombians rather than Americans dominate the conversation is far more interesting and informative. I don't mean to insult the honorable Americans but even they must admit that there are too many Americans on this site. Hopefully, Colombians will one day hang a few of these scumbag Americans from a crane in down town Cali.

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calipro says on Feb 11, 2005, 18:44:

vladimiro It has been my experiance that colombianos in general could careless what I do in Cali or who I do it with, unless of course it happens to be with their girlfriend;-)))

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greenday says on Feb 11, 2005, 18:44:

It's funny when I read posts like the one above. In all my ten or so years (36+ trips) of traveling to Colombia, I've always been treated like a king by both Colombian men and women alike. Now, I wonder where this anti-american sentiment is when I'm in Colombia, since I've never encountered it (at least not to my face). Of course there is a degree of safety when anti-american threats and insults are hurled from behind a keyboard, right Vladimiro???

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Lionheart says on Feb 11, 2005, 18:54:

time to chill this thread is going down the drain again, like all the others when it comes to the debate about young Colombianas.

Not purpose of PBH, if I need to remind anybody.

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 19:14:

calipro, you make assumptions about me but you are wrong. Just because I am not a cocky, middle aged guy who needs to show off his trophies does not mean I only go out with average or unattractive girls. I have seen the photos of some of your girls and there was nothing to be impressed about. Models? Maybe. You can ask gomezman if I have an unattractive girlfriend or not.

I wasn't saying don't get a model because of the looks. I was saying don't get a MODEL. There are plenty of attractive girls that don't have the self centered attitude of a model. That is what I meant.

I just read your post again. You are exactly the kind of guy that goes out and buys a corvette (or whatever) because it makes you feel better about yourself. Not because you like it, but because others like it. Sad.

There are plenty of good looking girls that just want a good life with a decent guy. American (yes, I said American) women are less likely to be with an older guy unless they have money. Trump is a prime example. If Trump was poor, that woman wouldn't give him the time of day. PLEASE.

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vladimiro says on Feb 11, 2005, 19:42:

Why travel all the way to Colombia, if lots of women is what you want you can get them in American night-clubs?

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 20:23:

vladimiro, sure there a lots of women in American night clubs. Maybe not the type of women some people are looking for thats all. Some older guys that like the younger girls (and don't have a lot of money) don't have much luck in night clubs here. When there are 20 guys for each girl in some places, it can be tough. Then again, there are places with plenty of girls. Also, I have been to clubs in Thailand, Ukraine, Brazil and Colombia and it was always easier for a gringo in those places. In the states, a gringo is just another average person. I lived in Memphis, TN for a few months with one of my friends. He is Mexican and he was very popular there because he was different. It wasn't common for girls to see Mexican guys in the clubs of Memphis. He had a good time there.

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calipro says on Feb 11, 2005, 20:28:

LOL !!! vladimiro

I'd trade all the gringas in any american night club on a given night for one good colombiana.

fzdan

"I just read your post again. You are exactly the kind of guy that goes out and buys a corvette (or whatever) because it makes you feel better about yourself. Not because you like it, but because others like it."

You are living proof that co-dependents will never understand the narsistic personality. It's not about you. It's not about them (the women). It's about me (Calipro). hehehe !!!

I am the last person that would buy a car because I thought someone else might like it.

Dare I quote myself: "I would rather meet 5 women that I found extremely attractive and after we met didn't hit it off with any of them than to meet 100 semi-attractive women that were crazy about me but that didn't do anything for me."

It is about me, not them. I travel to Cali because "I" prefer caleñas and not necessarily because they prefer me. I select women that I'm attracted to and if a woman that I haven't selected is attracted to me, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. I'm not a god. I only feel like one. Are you getting the picture? hehehe !!

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 20:29:

ok calipro, now I am a co-dependant? You keep trying to tell me what I am. Get over it. You make these stupid comments to justify your mid life crisis. That is OK. I can't argue with you liking Caleñas because I like them too. Enjoy yourself there as I will.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 20:46:

Gomezman-everything is relative... Gomezman--there are, by the count at INS here in Florida, probably 500,000 Illegals here in Florida. I never meant to imply that are were caught. A small % are detained but more then many people think. And if you are one of those 1-2% detained, it is a very humiliating process for most folks. I was absolutely astounded by how many really were caught-I, like you, thought no one is ever detained. My time at Krome dispelled that myth-many more then you imagine. Remember also, I am in a Immigrant city and personally working there gave me a unique viewpoint of those numbers.There was not a day that passed when a group of overstays(tourist visas-illegally working) were not brought in for processing and detention. Hell,to show you how screwed up US immigration is-they had a US Dention Officer working in Krome who was an illegal-evidently a through background pre-employment check was not performed but it was discovered when he had go through his 5 yr. FBI background investigation(we all had to do this every 5 years)-they found out this guy was NOT legal here in the US--next day here was in an Orange Detainee uniform and was eventually deported. He was a Hard Ass as a detention officer and when he was put in the shoes of a detainee-he had ONE hard life at Krome.Think he was glad to be deported before the other detainees killed him. One crazy place to say the least.

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Gomezman5 says on Feb 11, 2005, 21:05:

MIke...I'll still tell you Miami is much more dangerous than any city that I know. Chicago, is the second largest city in the country. If the chances of getting caught are 1-2% in Miami, they of getting caught in Chicago is .01%.
It NEVER happens NEVER, unless you are stupid enough to be working in one of the factories in the factory belt near the airport.

In Chicago, an illegal Mexican runs into your car.Before the police come, I can pick an illegal Mexican in a minute. Looks like onee, dresses like on, no license, no isurance, no plates, or stolen plates, or someone elses car. He does not know a word of English.If Police come, the will arrest him, print him, give him a ticket, and let him walk right out of the station. They know he is illegal, yet they do NOTHING! The mayor says, leave em' alone...we don't want to upset our legal Mexican American voters. Mike, listen, I can call immigration officials and tell them there is an illegal next door. They will NOT come out and arrest him.

So tell me more stories. Ok fine you have Krome, but most of those people come from factory stings, the airport, and people arrested for serious crime. If I was illegal and I lived in Chicago, I would not worry about a thing---just like the car wash example I gave you above.

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 21:09:

Miamimike, maybe it should be a bit humiliating. Should it be a day at Disneyland? They broke the law and maybe the experience will make them think twice next time (if there is one). Doubt it though. Do they get a FREE ticket back to their country? Too bad I can't get a free ticket back to the states when I go to Colombia.

This thread is a prime example of why it is so difficult to get a visa to come here. Too many people get here on some visa and overstay or never leave at all and that was their intention all along. Make them clean the toilets at the airport until they can pay for the ticket back to their country.

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 11, 2005, 21:21:

Miamimike, certainly there are illegals who get apprehended through bad luck. I am not saying that it doesn't happen. I know some who lived here for nearly 15 years and got caught when someone who was pissed with them squealed on them. I know at least 20 others who have lived here for years and unless something like that happens they are never going to get caught. Even the CBP admit that once they get past the border catching them is not a high priority.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gomezman5 says on Feb 11, 2005, 21:29:

Here is the proof I am right Currently, Mexicans are paying between 2000 and 2500 dollars for someone to "carry" them accross the border. Do you think these people would be spend ing 2500 to come across if there was an appreciable risk of getting of caught once here???Do you know what 2500 dollars is to a Mexican??? That money would go a long way in Mexico.

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vladimiro says on Feb 11, 2005, 21:57:

Interesting CIA report on Illegals
www.cia.gov/csi/monograph/women/trafficking.pdf

Apparently many of the illegals are slaves. According to the CIA 50,000 women and children are brought to the United States every year to serve as prostitutes, domestic servants or bonded workers. The report estimates that the number of slave laborers imported into the US from around the world has grown rapidly over the past decade.

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fzrdan says on Feb 11, 2005, 22:14:

vladimiro, sad but true. I have no idea what the numbers are though. It's pretty sick if you ask me. I am sure the USA is not the only country that has this type of activity though.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 23:00:

Gomezman--The Detained come from various... Sources. I can tell you many came from callers such as a pissed off boyfriends or girlfriends-they were ratted out by their lovers because they were ditched for some one else.This was very common. Others were working in some factories in various area in Miami and in some cases the Feds were after something completely different then what they originally were after in the first place. Like I say-I never thought many were ever caught-I was VERY surprised at the number-though they represented a very small % of the total numbers of Ileegals. We had one from Honduras-he was caught three times and deported 3 times-with his name being "Fidel Castro"--really-this guy was truly an IDIOT par excellence. Obviously,his name generated a LOT of attention in Miami.he he he!

"but most of those people come from factory stings, the airport, and people arrested for serious crime. If I was illegal and I lived in Chicago, I would not worry about a thing---just like the car wash example I gave you above".

Many times other illegals say "You will never get caught"--the law of averages is on their side-however if you do get rounded up and Detained , Krome is no picnic-nor was it meant to be- If I was a professional immigrant, Krome is the last place I would want to spend 5 minutes in. Depends on who you know also, as we know in Bogota at the Embassy-some folks get visas for reasons questioable to us-like maybe they had some pull/influence--well here in Miami-the opposite is true also--if you know someone with influence--trust me you CAN get someone picked and deported, as someone can obtain a Tourist Visa in Bogota.I agree. like I first said, only a small % gets caught in the end. Today, Jim Sensenbrenner's(R-wisc) law on the driver's licences, political asylum,ect. passed the house and will probably sail thru the Senate and this means the screws will tighten even more.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 23:09:

Utopia Cowboy---that is what happens in many cases The Piss someone off and the person starts to make a lot of noise-some here were alleged to have even planted drugs in the car or house of the person they were calling in --this really ups the attention of of INS and gets fast action-not Nice-but they are devious here in Miami. One lady I processed, her case was really sad-she was working in a Burger King on Calle 8 in Little Havana-she had fake papers and when she saw the INS agent coming in only to order a shake and burger, she panicked and ran to the women's room--they detained her on the spot after she exited the women's room--the papers and Alien number did not match and off to Krome she went. She was a Teacher in her home country and she was tossed in with female Marielitas from Cuba-not plesant.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 23:14:

Apparently many of the illegals are slaves.... Vladimiro--many of these women are being abused by heir OWN culture--not Americans. They recently caught huge ring west of palm beach, Fl-they were from Mexico and they were forced into prostitution by people of their own nationality and they were servicing the Mexican farm workers sexually. Happens a lot--abuse by the same culture.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Feb 11, 2005, 23:29:

Should it be a day at Disneyland--NO I think they should be detained in a dignified manner--no abuse. Most aren't treated that bad in Krome-they get a clean bed, clean uniforms, 3 hot meals daily, hot water showers, free medical care--for example, a Haitian detainee hardly ever complined-Krome--Man this was a Big step up in living from where they came from--we had onedetainee once and when hewas told he was free and had to leave, he started crying as for him it was a great place compared to his life in Haiti.He never had it so good.

It costs the US taxpayers a fortune to detain someone-around $40,000 yeraly and more if they need mecical care. I just don't beleive in abuse-its not what our country is about, at least not the one I spent four years in the Military defending. That said-you are right on the overstays-this was, for most, their intention from Day One and it ruins the chances for law abiding Visas seekers to come here. Good idea, work for their return plane fare but I am not sure our own Government permits it-Good idea though-WHY should we pay for their Blatant Disrespect of our Immigration Laws? They caught a few Federal officers who were entrusted to deliver female detainees to the airport but they never got to the Airport-they went to a calle 8 motel and had sex with the detainees and the deal was-the officers would return for Sex, whenever they wanted and if the deatinee objected-she would be yaken back to krome and be deported. That place was a Three Ring Circus.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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calipro says on Feb 12, 2005, 00:36:

fzdan "You keep trying to tell me what I am. Get over it. You make these stupid comments to justify your mid life crisis."

Let me think about this for a minute: "I'm telling you what I think you are so that I can justify myself." I have to admit that I'm a little tired right now but I'm 99.99% sure that we do NOT have this type of a relationship. Although if we keep bonding like this maybe we will some day. But, please don't get your hopes up. hehehe!!

I hope you have a nice time in Cali.

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go2pr says on Feb 12, 2005, 01:49:

frzdan "You make these stupid comments to justify your mid-life crisis."

In my case it's a all-life crisis !!

Come on, everybody knows that this so-called "men's mid-life crisis" is a concept which has been invented by women, for the day when a man just realise that marriage is a social and financial suicide and monogamy abnormal.

Anyway, to answer to the first poster, obviously the girl has used her assets to arrive where she wanted to go, yet the colateral damages suffered by the guy show that she's a true bitch without any dignity. I could bet that in this Miami's lap dancing joint she quickly found another loser ready to spoil his life for her.

Classic story however, I know lot of gringos who've been cheated by brasilian girls ; a DECENT brasileira has ABSOLUTLY NO desire to go living abroad.

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pink_lotus says on Feb 12, 2005, 02:29:

Oh my what a juicy thread!
As too the story that started this subject - life experiences IMO that we all have to go through.
They will all ( hopefully ) learn something from it all . . .

''There are plenty of good looking girls that just want a good life with a decent guy. American (yes, I said American) women are less likely to be with an older guy unless they have money. Trump is a prime example. If Trump was poor, that woman wouldn't give him the time of day. PLEASE.''''

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fzrdan says on Feb 12, 2005, 04:07:

pink_lotus, who cares where she is from. She is living in the USA. Maybe trump brought her here. Good for him. You are right, I was talking about American women when I made the commet, but she fits my point exactly. My point is, if trump wasn't who he is she wouldn't give him the time of day. An older man with his screwey hair? He has to be rich to get a young hottie like that, doesn't matter where she is from. In this case my steam is directed towards models. Isn't that what Trumps gold digger, I mean wife is???

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greenday says on Feb 12, 2005, 05:50:

yeah pink_lotus & frzdan yeah guys, what right did she have marrying "the Donald"?? After all, she is one of the most beautiful women in the world, has class & elegance. Why should she marry a billionare tycoon?? She would be better off with one of you guys, living in a 2 bedroom apartment (or double-wide). Then no one could accuse her of being a gold-digger. Of course, she would be miserable with you fellas, but, hey, she wouldn't be a gold digger.

Fellas, you are quite shallow in your thinking regarding what women are attracted to. Money & power are far stronger aphrodisiacs than looks, as far as women are concerned. All throughout the history of mankind, women have been attracted to men who have money & power. A woman of Mrs. Trump's calibre has no business being with an "average Joe", nor would she be happy with one. I, for one, have no problem with women who marry a man because of his money & power. But I don't believe it stops there. I have no doubt in my mind that she is physically attracted to Donald, treats him with love & repect (basically adores him). Anyone who says different is a fool. (yeah she pulled one over on "The Donald"), yeah right.
People who point fingers and call a woman like her a "gold-digger" have no concept of what women want, and are mainly jealous, envious, under-achievers, who will never attract an exceptional woman, and are green with envy when someone else does. Hey, maybe you guys can start a match-making agency for women like Donald's wife. You can choose who they should hook up with. Of course you wouldn't be in business long and you'd probably spend most of the day fielding customer complaints.

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marce says on Feb 12, 2005, 15:19:

how old are you greenday? the age thing seems to interests you...

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greenday says on Feb 12, 2005, 17:03:

marce now, that is somewhat of a personal question, but I'll tell you that I'm over 40, but younger than 50.

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tbone says on Feb 13, 2005, 18:50:

different take i am 51 my fiancee is 21...

i did not go looking for some young thing in colombia, i honestly never gave colombia much thought. i originally joined match.com to find a woman form sinaloa mexico which where my grandfather came from about 100 years ago.

i receive alot of emails from women from all over the world and alot of them from colombia...

this particular girl from colombia just wouldn't take no for an answer and after 4 months i decided to travel to colombia so i could disillusion her once and for all and at the same time have an experience traveling to south america.

well, she was and is not disillusioned and we plan to get married as soon as she receives her visa...

here the take...she doesn't want to come to the US she and her family have tried very hard to get me to come and live in colombia. this is what she tells me, "vente a colombia no me importa si eres pobre aqui podemas hacer una vida tu y yo, todo lo que me importa es estar contigo aqui en colombia"

so she doesn't want a visa...i'm not rich...and i tried very hard to discourage her...

sometimes, women are as genuine as they appear, not all colombia women are "interesadas"

fyi i am hispanic and i speak both english (obviously) and spanish
i am not a fat bald gringo...i am 6 feet tall 190 lbs and have been a carpenter for over 25 years i am physically strong...

lastly, i don't have a problem with fat people bald people but i do have a problem with people who like to stereotype possibilities

therealtommyboy

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michaelz says on Feb 14, 2005, 04:47:

calipro You raised a good point - I'm not sure why my girlfriend told me this story either. She may have been trying to let me know how lucky I was to have found a sweet and loyal chica, intead of a golddigger. She may also have been trying to plant the idea that an somewhat older chica like her (28 years old) is better than some 21 year old airhead.

Actually, my girlfriend is 21 years younger than me, and she is very attractive. She assures me that nothing bad will happen when she gets to the states, and I believe her, but who can know for sure?

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bondjames says on Feb 15, 2005, 12:36:

Greenday,
I have nothing against age-gap relationships as long as the guy really understands there is a high chance it may not work.
Now going back to Donald Trump, sure lots of women love men with money and power but taht is just it. Those types really do not love the man just the perks. I think you have forgotten Donald's second wife Marla was caught cheating with her young bodyguard that was the reason for his divorce. Ivanna now is engaged to an Italian male version of Donald's new wife. A male himbo 20 years her junior who is a goldigger as she is pretty annoying to look at.
Donald' new wife will cheat on his goffy butt too. Do you really believe his wife is blind and thinks his worse than Don King hairdo, his ducklips,pasty skin,his bad posture and his gut are attractive. Sure she does..You She will just be smarter about her affairs having learned from Marla's mistakes.

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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 17:15:

007 You may be right...only time will tell. I never thought Marla Maples was that great anyway. But this new girl might be right for the Donald. It took Johnny Carson 4 marriages to finally get a good one. From what I read, his last wife worshipped the ground he walked on, and I think their age gap was 25 years. I agree with you though, I think it takes a special guy to make it work.

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bondjames says on Feb 15, 2005, 23:18:

Greenday,

Rumor was Johny Carson's wife Alexa was not around when he died. Some news programs had gotten hold of that story. Left him . But the family did some sort of rumor control which then stated she was with him when he died.I don't know which version is true. But I would not trust anyone in HOLLYWEIRD to have a marriage based on love anyway. It is basically ego.

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 16, 2005, 06:57:

Models The only comment I can make on this thread is that some things become obvious if you do a little research. I have talked with many women from around the world that post their pictures on the dating sites. A lot of them say that they are models. Most of these women have never held a job, much less modeled. On to the obvious, gold-diggers are easy to spot after you've been married to one, especially one from the good old USA. If you spend some time, and send a few tests their way, the leopards always reveal their spots. Enough said! ;-)

Jay

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Heather says on Jul 17, 2005, 22:36:

30 something

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Heather says on Jul 17, 2005, 23:00:

age Why would a 49 year old man from America want to marry a 30 year old colombian woman and why would he search the order a bride sites to do this?

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Rubiazo says on Jul 17, 2005, 23:08:

Why should we even care? You're either a troll or severely mentally challenged!

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Heather says on Jul 17, 2005, 23:12:

troll & mentally challenged Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it.

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greenday says on Jul 18, 2005, 03:50:

Heather good point!! A 49 year old man should be looking for a fat American woman near his own age, or maybe even an old fat Hungarian.

What does anyone see in those younger Colombian women anyway?? Give me a good ole' fat woman, with a little facial hair, sagging, dried up breasts, and so much cellulite that you could start a cottage cheese factory...damn, excuse me, I've got to go...I'm getting a little horney just thinking all of this...time to relieve myself...

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flaleo says on Jul 19, 2005, 06:13:

Question for Miamimike Appreciate your input as you have personal experience/expertise given your work. Can you comment regarding this?:

You mentioned that the sponsor is responsible or legally liable for all debts acquired by the beneficiary - is that really true??

I understand that the 864 is a pledge of support - but I read it as only for services provided by governement (or "means-tested" - what does that mean?) and that the government has the right to come after the sponsor for those costs. I do not see where the sponsor may be held financially responsible for civil litigation.

Also, would the financial responsibility be limited to 125% of the poverty level as support?

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Diez Y Siete says on Jul 19, 2005, 06:30:

ok so EVERY one is oof topic.. I think when the persone nitally wrote this he ment for ppl to watch out and to not be made a fool of...i think everyone over analyzed it and picked it apart. and by the way...are there any...umm...sex laws in colombia?

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