You think Colombia is Dangerous for Gringos? Go Party it Up in Tijuana, Mexico!

Miguel_Clavo says on May 15, 2009, 15:04:

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 15, 2009, 15:07:

sounds like Muslim Terrorists......=)...but the moral of the story here is dont play with fire if you dont want to get burned......they dont teach that to the youth of America any more?.....probably was removed due to some ACLU action......shame

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Simon says on May 15, 2009, 15:19:

I keep telling you gringos to go to Colombia instead.....IT'S MUCH SAFER!!!!

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 15, 2009, 15:40:

Miguel_Clavo says on May 15, 2009, 15:44:

prices are cheaper in Nuevo Loredo, arent they?

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 15, 2009, 15:46:

Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 15, 2009, 15:55:

Escape Artist says on May 15, 2009, 16:05:

Anyone who considers any of the border towns in Mexico a fair representation of what the real Mexico and Mexicans are like obviously has not ventured out into the "real" Mexico. Growing up in one of the US border towns and then traveling further into Mexico as an adult gave me a totally different perspective of what the country and people are like. If you have only been to Tijuana, Nogales or Ciudad Juárez you are looking at Mexico through a very narrow window and not giving it a fair shake. It would be like going to Buena Ventura and judging all of Colombia based upon your knowledge of only that city. You would think all of Colombia is an ugly and dangerous place when in fact we all know different.

EA

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Man Tequila says on May 15, 2009, 16:24:

Tijuana is a dangerous city. So was Buenaventura, last time I checked. An ignorant person might generalize the dangers of Colombia based on, say, an incident in La Guajira. That person does not exactly become a sage when talking about Mexico.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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whitewidow says on May 15, 2009, 16:32:

hope the killers aren't in copper canyon this summer when i visit.

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Rocco81 says on May 15, 2009, 17:47:

Who's talking about Repirations for Mexico? Im sorry but didn't we have a war over that? Should we give reperations for every conflict we have? Should the North pay the South Reperations in the USA? Should we go back and make the Aztecs pay reperations for the slaughter of countless other tribes within Mexico's borders and what used to be Mexicos borders. Come on.

Yo Elmo you think you'd be safe in Mexico? Why because you are an Afro Colombian? The young people killed were of Mexican background probably spoke very good Spanish and looked Mexican. So yeah bro they can get your brown ass or my white ass or other mexican looking people. Point is Mexican banditos don't give a shit about where you're from. Obviously a foreigner is an easy target but its not like some revenge killing that only goes against white Americanos..

Sic semper tyrannis

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Portena1 says on May 15, 2009, 19:09:

How is Mexico City and the pyramids re: safety right now?

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Bluesdude says on May 15, 2009, 19:34:

So.... Do you really think they went down there just to party in the nightclubs??? Even so, I'd stay away from border towns until some kind of resolution for this problem happens.

A guru once said, "the mind is like a drunken monkey." If that's true, then my mind is an orangutan on a binge

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 15, 2009, 19:53:

Robert Jorge says on May 15, 2009, 19:57:

How close is that cantina, 'The Titty Twister', to Juarez?

Seriously though. I have an open invitation to vacation at a friend's place in Los Mochis, Sinaloa. I told the guy it might not be a good idea. And I am pretty sure that qualifies as real Mexico.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 15, 2009, 20:01:

christobeldawg says on May 15, 2009, 22:09:

Tijuana, in my mind, is synonomous to doyouwanna?

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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Buongone says on May 15, 2009, 22:29:

Penthouse magazine said there never was a donkey show in TJ.

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sanandressi says on May 16, 2009, 06:06:

Mexico is where Colombia was in the late 80's with Escobar. You can thank Colombia for Mexico's problems since it was the COLOMBIAN cartels who decided to ship drugs overland from Mexico because Pappa Bush did such a good job in stopping the drugs in Florida in the late 80''s when he was drug czar. So I have read anyway. Of course, if there is no demand there is no supply but that still does not justify growing a product that has no nutritional value and destroys the human body. I have no use for Colombians who justify drug production simply because there is demand!

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Man Tequila says on May 16, 2009, 07:00:

Mexicans argue they are not a failed state as one may still travel anywhere in the country. Some Mexicans blame Colombia for expanding trafficking, but Mexican criminals are also resourceful and I think this argument somewhat exaggerated. Given the tremendous failure of the drug war, and the enormous waste of resources and failure of policy -- it is hard to credibly blame this on Florida's policies -- if they worked so well in Florida, why not elsewhere?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Robert Scanlon says on May 16, 2009, 09:22:

C'mon Az, just admit it. The US stole land from Mexico...an independent country with it's own government, borders, etc.

True or false?

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 16, 2009, 09:23:

Reparation is total bullshit.....peoples from the beginning of time have stole each others land/wives/money, etc, either legally, illegally, or by force, etc....The first inhabitant of the Americas is the rightful owner....everyone else are squatters and deserve no reparation.....should Eve recieve reparation from Adam? ...........to appease the collective feelings of guilt on the part of Americans? give me a break.....if someone 100-200 years ago did something to you personally, then locate the bastard and deal with him....most, if not all, people living today were not even born when all these things happened, so i say too bad, too sad, sucks to be you, ....and then get on with your live.....=)

but, getting back on topic...............Anyone up for a good time in the border cities of Mexico? ..

anyone who thinks that all of Mexico is like the border towns is retarded and ignorant.....lots of nice places there with nice people as well.....can you imagine thinking that the USA is like Utopia, Texas??....yikes!

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 16, 2009, 10:45:

The World is dysfunctional....the sooner people accept that fact, the sooner we can move forward.....


and party in TJ with Elmo like a Rock Star! HA!

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frisbyterian says on May 16, 2009, 11:02:

Politics aside even though I have strong opinions myself on all Imperialistic actions.

I left Colombia 2 months ago after a few months there, mostly on the Caribe coast but also a little better than a month in San Gil and surrounding areas

No big problems for me but did meet a European guy in Taganga who after an overnight trip to Barraquilla showed me the stitches he needed after being suckered into chasing a guy who grabbed a camera out of his hand while watching the parade. At the ambush, after slashing him opened, they took everything else. Lucky for him a taxi driver took pity on this pennyless bleeding gringo.

This doesn't make me fearful of Colombia...but it does say something about parts and times in Barranquilla

I am now in San Diego. Most weeks I take a day trip to Tijuana for lunch, beers, and people watching. I always enter via the San Ysidro border but sometimes exit via Otay Mesa frontera a few miles further inland. Never seen any problems in about 6 or 7 visits thus far except for the dispairing looks of the merchants. Que Pena

Taganga was an immediate candidate for retirement when I first laid eyes on it coming over the hill from Santa Marta about a decade ago. It no longer is after this last trip for reasons other than violent crime. Like all endeavors of this magnitude there are multiple reasons why Taganga has slipped off of my top 5 list, but crime is not one of them

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Simon says on May 16, 2009, 11:08:

" I have no use for Colombians who justify drug production simply because there is demand!"

And I have no use for ignorant North Americans who justify drug consumption simply because there is a supply!

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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Catfish35 says on May 16, 2009, 19:47:

I love Tijuana!!!! Ave. de revolucion bebe!!!!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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goin_south says on May 16, 2009, 22:49:

did they ever re-pave Revolutionary Blvd?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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hodgeon5th says on May 17, 2009, 04:38:

I am a gringo...I have been to Cali 5 times since Oct 2008....I have never had any problems...airport...walking in the north...centro..south...zoo..but I am 6'5 230lb of twisted steel.....so I guess that helps.....I love the girls in Cali...

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Rocco81 says on May 17, 2009, 19:10:

hodgeon5th says on May 17, 2009, 04:38 (today): flag

I am a gringo...I have been to Cali 5 times since Oct 2008....I have never had any problems...airport...walking in the north...centro..south...zoo..but I am 6'5 230lb of twisted steel.....so I guess that helps.....I love the girls in Cali...

Didn't you mean 6'5 230lbs of Twisted steal and kick your ass to the curb appeal? Did you steal that straight from Curb Your Enthusiasm or are you trying to spook people.

Sic semper tyrannis

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christobeldawg says on May 17, 2009, 21:18:

Rocco81,somebody told me, long ago, forget the macho chit, learn to play the guitar, or piano, and you will actually attract the good ones.

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Portena1 says on May 17, 2009, 21:59:

I like Goin South's picture of Rachel Alexandra! :)

Probably only a matter of time before someone gets a tattoo of the filly...

Goin South can then post it as part of his tattoo avatar collection.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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goin_south says on May 17, 2009, 22:35:

since she's a filly... I might go for it :-))
I'll send the idea in, to sailor jerry.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Man Tequila says on May 18, 2009, 09:05:

More twisted than steel?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Rocco81 says on May 18, 2009, 21:34:

Yes Aaaron 21 you are correct. Bad Asses everywhere it seems.

Chirstobeldog..you are right. Playing guitar or bieng a musician works wonders with the ladies.

I know I talk about MMA, boxing and working out on this forum occassionally ...but really I am not a macho asshole. I like that stuff and its fun for me and its good to know..but its the last thing I talk about when I go out...There are sooo many things to be into that are far more widely accepted and well just cooler than tough guy chit.

Sic semper tyrannis

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christobeldawg says on May 18, 2009, 22:29:

yeah, the tough guy attitude gets the tough ass women. The guys who are actually able to be genuine, and to feel, and to express, while it might seem wimpy, are the ones who always seem to attract the good ones, the true beauties, inside and out. so you gotta ask yourselves, do I want a woman with nonsense tattoo scars, or do I want a woman who is comfortable in her own skin, a woman actually capable of a real life relationship.

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goin_south says on May 18, 2009, 23:27:

""nonsense tattoo scars, or do I want a woman who is comfortable in her own skin""
hummmmmh... not both???

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Rocco81 says on May 19, 2009, 07:58:

Well I think if by tough you are talking about an insecure bully type of dude then yeah you are right. Sometimes you see a man who is fit and condifedent and extremely comfortable in his own skin and some men become envious and say he's acting "tough" just because he is bigger than them..the whole jealous hater type approach (of course the muscles can be replaced with money, cars, intelect etc) Im sure you know how that stuff goes.

Anyhow I agree being more sensitive is good at times but just like being too much of a hard ass can get you a bad girl, so can being too much of a pussy. I know guys on the sensitive end that are one step away from being a woman themselves and basically do whatever their woman says and talk about "feelings" when their woman becomes a total witch. By that time its too late.

When it comes to chicks I really think its all about balance.

Sic semper tyrannis

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frisbyterian says on May 20, 2009, 16:13:

Elsapo...What do you want me to elaborate on?

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