No politics today. OK? Colombia, sadly to say, may not be a participant, but Colombia's interest, according to everyone I have talked to, is still quite strong. After all, it is the World Cup!!! So, I am dedicating this thread to anything that has anything to do with World Cup Action. In other words, no arguments and no insults. So fire away.

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My Money is on Colombia I bet the finca on it ;-)

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Me too. For 2010

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What do you mean by that??!! "In other words, no arguments and no insults. So fire away."



Well, G5..#$@%% to you and %$*)(#))#(*$*...so how do you like that??!! and furthermore...&*^%))*%%**%^$* or you can *&%$^&&#$%#@./....with that said, i feel better now!!!!!!!!!!!! Damm. isnt PBH great therapy???



hahahhahahahahhaa.....



Go Irannnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!hahahhahaha.....



Just my opinion...



Miguel_Clavo...faltan 21 días...Colombia es pasión!



"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

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Well, if you need to go back home and down size it to Intra-national... to get your Colombian Kicks, I believe Pasto tied Bogota 1-1, for the National Championship to a raucous crowd in Pasto Wednesday night, (told to me by a close friend who don't even like soccer, but attended the game...mucho frio, y mucho gentes, was all she had to say!)



Okay, so who is favored in this WC? Brazil again? (do they have CheerLeaders? on the side? ala NFL? oooh-la-la! that might be worth, then.... getting the direct tv hooked up!)

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Todos ablan de esta pendejada de la copa, que gracia tiene eso si no juega el pais de uno?

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G5 I'm going with Brasil. It was great to see so much offense in the Germany-Costa Rica match.

As I post, it's 70:00 in the Ecuador-Poland match with Ecuador up 1-0.

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OK......everyone My instinct...really instinct tells me to go with Brazil. From a technical perspective, taking into account talent and everything else, they sure look like the best team.But,and this is a big but, South American teams don't have a very good record when the Cup

is played in Europe. I heard on the news last night that no South American team has ever won in Europe. I have not had a chance to check that out, but if that is the case, even Brazil is going to have an an up hill battle. I also know that the hosting team certainly has the benefit of the home crowd? For example, 4 years ago, was S Korea really that good, or was it those non stop screaming fans making a difference. When France won in 98 were they really the best team, or did they make the most of the fact that they were the hosting country?



Ecuador really dominated Poland. Poland was never really in it. I know it's early, but that gives at least some credence to what I said here last September when everyone was many here were selling Ecuador short. On the other hand, Colombia knocked off the field in Barranquilla (wasn't it a 5-0 romp???). I am not picking Ecuador to go far. But I would not be surprised if they moved beyond the first round....in fact, I predict that they will.



Kernow......who's your pick....England or Paraguay? That should be a very good game. Sorry Kernow, I have to go with my Latin Brothers. Paraguay. This team is under rated. Me thinks.....Par 2 Eng. 1

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my favourites



Italy

argentina

Brazil

England

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Ticos Costa Rica were not prepared for this match. They started out very lackadaisical. Several times CR defenders tried to dribble the ball out of danger and were dispossesed by alert German attackers. This isn't the Costa Rican league. But, they did well to score twice.



Germany will probably win the group, but I don't see them as a threat to win the Cup. A good team will punish their defense.



I see one of the European big dogs lifting the Cup this year, Holland, England, Italy.



Oh, by the way, I'm predicting the US to advance to the round of 16. :-)

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Gomezman Brasil won the 1958 Cup in Sweden. But, they had a certain player called Pele. The current selecao looks awesome on paper. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinho, Kaka. But who is going to do the defensive work in midfield? Their defense is suspect, and I'm not convinced Dida is a great keeper. On paper, they are unbeatable. But, I think it will happen.

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Good point El norteno For all the great offensive ability that Brazil has, (as mentioned by you above) defense is not something that they are short on either. The value of Cafu, who is probably in his last Cup competition, and Roberto Carlos, cannot be overlooked on defense. Cafu, is so agile, and plays with such finess, in my opinoin, sets the standard as to what defense in this game is all about. Kaka still holds up very well in his midfield position.



You know something. The Cup always has its share of upsets, look what happened to so many teams 4 years ago. Remember Argentina? OK, that being said, it is about this time every Cup I say to myself, maybe Brazil will be the talk of upsets this time. Inasmuch as I have a whole lot of respect for how great these players are, damn it, I am tired, of everytime, before the first ball is even kicked, of having to say, hey what differnece does it make who wins and loses, because in the end, Brazil is going to win the Cup anyway. So once again, I hope for an early departure for Brazil. Imagine, all the speculation that will took place if Brazil is no longer a factor. Anything is possible.

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I think England will beat Paraguay 2-0. As long as we attack and get a few set pieces. If England does get beat it will be an upset that's for sure. Paraguay is 400 to 1 at the bookies to make it out of this group. England is currently at 8 to 1.



Poland and Ecuador are fairly close in odds at 80 to 1 and 125 to 1 respectively. I liked the way Ecuador played a defensive counter-attacking game, they have great pace and athleticism.



The bookies have Brazil at 5 to 2 and the next closest in their group is Croatia at 50 to 1. So should be a piece of cake.



Argentina is at 7 to 1 and Holland at 15 to 1. I think the Dutch will be very good in this cup. They are the best team in the world never to have won the cup, they are due. Go Ruud!



France is a favourite 9 to 1 with the Swiss at 100 to 1.



Now a close group is the group with the US.



Italy is favoured at 10 to 1 but the US is only just behind at 12 to 1 whilst the Czech republic has dropped to 40 to 1 because of injuries.



The other tight group is Portugal at 20 to 1 and Mexico at 25 to 1.

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I am predicting an upset in Saturday evening's game... I know Argentina is favored... that's why it will be a big upset when Cote d??Ivoire wins.

Suppose I should give a reason I think that. In part it is because Ivory Coast is coached by Henri Michel, a former French national team player and coach. This year's team has a roster full of players who have the experience of competing in the strongest European leagues. It may be a long shot but Africa will be pulling for Ivory Coast as will I. I still remember Colombia's defeat of Argentina, 5-0 in 1994. I was rolling on the floor in ecstasy, and I want to repeat the experience of Argentina's defeat this year.

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I would like to see that too Platano, but even Drogba can't work miracles.

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You know there is a certain similarity between Colombia and Cote d??Ivoire but since the OP prohibits any political talk I won't mention civil war or anything like that.



No, Drogba alone can't work miracles, but with Kanga Akale and Emerse Fae, etc.?



And let's not forget Zokora! Zokora is fast, and not just on his feet... He is also unusually quick with his hips and shoulders as well. He can easily fool markers in one on one situations thanks to his agility which gives him endless options for deceiving markers. Zokora can turn on a dime, changing direction to keep opponents guessing, until he speeds by and sends another pass to a teammate with pinpoint precision.

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Platano.. I shared your ecstasy in '94 when we beat the Argentines 5-0. Does anybody else see a Brazil/England final? I beleive the draw is such that it's a possibility.



BillyB

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Yea Kernow..... You're probably right. I know you guys don't like FIFA rankings, but England is rated much higher than Paraguay. In fact Colombia is rated higher than Paraguay. So I can't see how I thought Paraguay will beat England 2-1. Well, maybe I just wish it so. Kernow and Brazil would be a great final. Heck, let the old pros like Roberto Carlos and Kafu go out in style. On the other hand, England can use some cheering up these days. Plus, like I said before, South America does not have a good record at winning when they play in Europe.



So, is everyone really going to write Germany off so quickly? Aren't you guys forgeting about hosting country advantage. Would Korea would have done so well 4 years ago? Would France would have won 8 years ago? Would the US have done so well (they really did considering from where they came) 12 years ago? (Including the victory over Colombia). I think people better not see Germany short.



As to the Czech Republic. Hmmm, what a bad break these guys got huh? They have played so well and were easily one of the best teams in Europe....I really feel bad for these guys.

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England 1 Paraguay 0 in the most lackluster display so far in the World Cup. If England continue to play like that they won't go far. They need to settle down now after winning 3 points. Paraguay was the better ball handling team by far.

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England played a very pedestrian first game. Nobody played that well for England, Lampard had the best shots on goal but the second goalie for Paraguay gamely stopped them. 1-0 on an own goal for Gammara (sp), one of Paraguay's best defenders.



The only Paraguayan I was really impressed with was their striker, Valdez or Valdes.



I think England really needs a healthy Rooney to go anywhere in the second round. Paraguay didn't dominate the second half, but they played England pretty evenly.



Crouch, the 6-7 striker for England must have had 10 fouls and a yellow card. It seemed that everytime he went up for a header, he was called by the Mexican ref. The advantage in free kicks for PARA must have been at least 2-1.



I'm pulling for Ivory Coast (memories of Cameroon over ARG) and Drogba is one of my favorites. I also like Chelsea in the English League. Ivory Coast has the strikers and defense, it will be interesting to see how their midfield will hold up.



Most are expecting Messi to emerge as the new world star after this Cup.

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Congrats to Ecuador! I love an underdog. I went crazy when I saw that Cameroon over ARG victory. The other one that really sticks out for me is s. Korea over Italy last cup. In fact I find ARG and ITL very similar in attitude and approach to them game. Needless to say I think alot of people were more than a little happy. I think an interesting game will be Angola v. Portugal. The old colony v. the old superpower, I think there will be lots of emotion. Well I am off to watch Trin & Tob. take on Sweden.

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Sweden hasn't won their first round match since 1958! England hasn't beaten Sweden in yonks. After watching Trinidad I am not thinking England beating them is a given, but I still think they will.



I have noticed the underdogs seem to do best early on because they don't have the pressure on them that the big teams do. The big teams usually settle down after a match or two. Hopefully that isn't too late for them.



Isn't it interesting a 0 - 0 result means totally different things depending on the team expectations.



I tried watching the England v Paraguay match on US telly, where the hell did they find that announcer and Marcelo Balboa is a joke. In five minutes I heard Balboa refer to Beckham as Michael Beckham, then he got England and Germany mixed up, the other fellow said Argentina was favoured in this group (which they aren't in), he call Beckham, David Beckett. Wankers. I switched over to German TV, yawn they put me to sleep. In the end back to Univision. Even a boring game sounds great!!!

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Alemania, Brasil then Argentina



Click on Higuita to see his save in one game

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toneloc... "How in the hell do you explain...?" The way I explain upsets is with four words: "on any given day..."



I'm hoping today is the day for Cote d'Ivoire to win! GO AFRICA!

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Half time report... Platano is rolling on the floor... in agony! Looks very difficult for CIV to pull this one out.

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world cup I think England has a good chance to win this year. I hope injured Iran can overcome Mexico tommorrow and atleast make it to the second round. I like the games with political overtones like when US got kicked out of world cup by Iran as shown below :)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vfi9-7oa0E&search=iran%20world%20cup

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England Very unconvincing display by England.

No wonder Erickson is desperate to get Rooney on the field.



Is David Beckham the most over-hyped player in the world?

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tactics England werent that bad first half and fell apart in the second half.

Ericsson is a bad manager! he has no tactics,he plays people out of position,makes CRAZY substitutions and keeps experimenting with ineffective formations.England has some world class players that perform well at club level but cant seem to get it together in an england shirt.

It seems to me that if anyone is playing well ericsson substitutes them like he did today with joe cole.

It is the patriotic duty of every englishman out there to say a quiet prayer for young mr.Rooneys foot.Perhaps a few sparks of individual talent will get us through

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Kernow62 I thought your team was 'the Corns'.

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Vladimiro Are you serious? Iran, overcome Mexcio. Are you dreaming? I'll take that bet. Besides, I'm slightly curious. Why do you single that match out? Why do you wish to seem Iran beat Mexico? I am still willing to bet you or anyone else for that matter that Mexico will beat Iran,,,,and soundly. Mexico is clearly a much better team-hands down. On the other hand, as we have seen before, on any given day, anything can happen.

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The climate...was a factor for England The temperature in Frankfort was close to 90 degrees. It was very hot for play of this type. Supposedly, the entire English team drank 70 litres of water and on the average, each player lost about 5 pounds. They were nearly exhausted. That might explain things.



England is a great team. But I don't care who is playing, when you have to play under those type of conditions, you are not going to be playing at your best. So, after all is said, you will have to cut England some slack for their somewhat lackluster performance in the second half.

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Normally I'd agree with G5... Mexico hands down... even more so given Iran's injury list... but Mexico could foul their way to defeat with sloppy play.... on any given day...

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30 minute mark....Mexico 1 Iran 0 Hey Platano.....I appreciate the fact that you "normally agree with me".

There are not many on here that do.



Today, one yellow card already. And, not playing too well at the 22 minute mark. However, injuries or not, Iran is not not "even is the same league as Mexico. Few teams are. But Mexico is Mexico,and they have beaten many great teams and their world wide ranking demands respect. If anything, they may underestimate their competition. That is their biggest problem, even more than their propencity to foul. However, after weak first halves, they seem to know how to come together in the second half to get the one or two goals they need to win. A lot is going to depend on how well Sanchez will perform in Goal. Sanchez is the difference, even with the proficiency of Marque and Sanchez on defense.

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G5, when it comes to football, salsa, law, and politics... You just know more... so it is safe to agree with you.



Iran 1 Mexico 1

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Thanks my man.....but I'm near tears Sanchez could not do anything about that goal. That corner kick just had the smell of Goal. I felt it, the commentators felt it and so did every fan of Mexico from here to Chiapas.



Plenty of time though.

Entonces...Viva Mexico..!!

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Oye Quiero saber..despues de un GOL mexicano, sus aficionados toman un trago de tequila...pero digame, ¿que pasa despues de un GOL iraní?

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Iran vs Mexico Iran ties it up 1-1. Mexico is better but Iran often miraculously beats opponents that are much better than them. I'll be happy with a draw and Iran making it to the second round. I like Iran because I'm half Iranian, lived thier when I was a kid, and grew up in an Iranian family.

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Miguel, Traditionally Iranians drink cold water with their meals. Maybe after a gol it's water?

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Green banana Thanks for the cultural update. You think the farc boys and girls are taking the day off and watching la copa mundial?

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G5 asked that this thread be free of politics so I respectfully decline to take the bait. :)

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GoMexMan5 :Mexico is clearly a much better team-hands down. On t Mexico is clearly a much better team -*hands down*. On the other hand,



Soccer Punz? GMan? dat be funny!

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Higuita??? Caramba! What team does that dude play for? That was incredible! (incredibly stupid!) but, he'll likely get LOTS MORE CHICS, AFTER THAT SAVE! ajaja

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En hora buena!!



En hora buena!!

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MEXICO 3- Iran-1 I know people here hate it when the G5 is right.....But, I'm right again. What did I write above??? I'll remind you:



....."after weak first halves, they seem to know how to come together in the second half to get the one or two goals they need to win."



And so it's happening again!! (with 5 minute left)

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whoooooh... just when I was about to take a foxsports.net break for a score. Thanks webmanco. I guess it's over (and, we don't have to draw any political overtones from that comment by vladimiro, after all: "but Iran often miraculously beats opponents that are much better than them.")

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Platano I was not baiting you but actually wondering if the guerillas ( and the paracos) are taking the day off to watch fútbol. I hope so.

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OK, Miguel... but why ask me? I know nothing... Today I am not interested in what any of the armed actors are doing.

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Ok Portugal vs. Angola on next.... ...this should be interesting. The old colony taking on the colonizer, alot of emotion there probably. I know next to nothing about the Angolan team, but it is always fun to watch the newcomers.

About the Mexico game, I did not think Mexico looked to impressive with their passes. Maybe just first game jitters there.

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Platano please tell me you were joking "G5, when it comes to football, salsa, law, and politics...

You just know more... so it is safe to agree with you."

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OK, Johna and others, I thought I made it clear.. In the begining....I asked no politics....no personal insults. It applies to all. Myself included. If someone wants to complement someone, myself, johna, or whoever, than fine. But but leave the insults and negative comments OFF THIS THREAD--- PLEASE. Is that asking too much?



If people find this request to difficult, than create another thread and attack me or whoever until their heart's content. Until now, everyone has been sticking to my request. So let's get back on track.

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johna, I stand by my words praising G5. But out of respect for the request in the OP I'm not going to say more, except to say I respect G5 and wish him the best.



And today's game proved G5 was right: Mexico didn't just win over Iran. They won convincingly.

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Thanks again Platano 2 points.

1. I knew someone was going to start something negative and personal.I even tried to reconcile things with Johna in the other thread by admiring his experience in Korea, and inquiring about it. Go figure.



2.As to your statement about Mexico. Of course they played well. They got three goals. When you get three goals in Cup competition, you have to give the team credit.May I also add, they got the three goals in the fashion I predicted- a so so first half and then the rose to the occassion with 2 goals in the second half. Three goals is three goals. Enough said.



Platano, there are plenty of Mexico haters on this board. Suffice to say, if Mexcio, out of stroke of luck, went to the final and beat Brazil, some brillinat one would come on here and say that Mexico got lucky.

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Mexico's win was in part due to their NATURALIZED players, the BRASILIAN Zinha and the ARGENTINE Franco. That doesn't surprise me at all.

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You need to do more research, Simon, because if you're wielding that brush you're going to get paint everywhere:



Germany Kevin Kuranyi (Brazil)

Germany Gerald Asamoah (Ghana)

Germany Miroslav Klose (Poland)

Poland Emmanuel Olisadebe (Nigeria)

Belgium Emile and Mbo Mpenza (Congo)

France Patrick Vieira (Senegal)

France Marcel Dessaily (Ghana)

France Claude Makelele (Congo)

Posted on June 9, 2006


Gozeman maybe I was a little hard on you but I was truly shocked by Platano's comment. I was simply inquiring whether or not it was sarcasm. And if you will think back you will remember that it was not me who started the insults. So if you dish it out be ready to get it back. Don't be so sensitive.



Now back to futbol.



"As to your statement about Mexico. Of course they played well. They got three goals. When you get three goals in Cup competition, you have to give the team credit.May I also add, they got the three goals in the fashion I predicted- a so so first half and then the rose to the occassion with 2 goals in the second half. Three goals is three goals. Enough said."



Mexico only had about 15 min of decent play against a below average team. Though I love Mexico they stunk up the first half. The first goal was probably offsides by the way. The next two were very nice.

But that does not negate the fact that the midfield play was poor. Also to accuse me of being a Mexico hater because of this observation is pretty silly and hypocritical. It does even come close to hoping someone "chokes on a taco".

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taco ooooppsss,i think the taco comment is gonna keep coming back to haunt you G5

Posted on June 9, 2006


USA? Favored or not? TOMORROW'S EVENTS: Is there any chance the USA is favored in this game tomorrow? Also,...Japan? Italy? Who are the favored teams tomorrow? Just curious: Does Vegas carry odds on World Cup Games? Isn't there a Colombian playing somewhere, for some country, in this World Cup? Why all the transplants? Naturalized citizens? Immigrants only? What are the rules, regarding these players UTC mentions, playing for other countries?



(Yep. Fugdis and Johna, I bet El Martillo will never eat another taco in his life, without fear of.....)

Posted on June 9, 2006


Webmanco, Tinto.... Since...(Prais be to GomezMan5!) this seems to be a popular and relatively light-hearted thread, and will be a topic for some time to come (what? two or three more weeks? longer?), then maybe you could move it up to the front and keep it there until it is over. (Just my opinion, M_C)

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Webmanco, Tinto.... Since...(Prais be to GomezMan5!) this seems to be a popular and relatively light-hearted thread, and will be a topic for some time to come (what? two or three more weeks? longer?), then maybe you could move it up to the front and keep it there until it is over. (Just my opinion, M_C)

Posted on June 9, 2006


Webmanco, Tinto.... Since...(Prais be to GomezMan5!) this seems to be a popular and relatively light-hearted thread, and will be a topic for some time to come (what? two or three more weeks? longer?), then maybe you could move it up to the front and keep it there until it is over. (Just my opinion, M_C)

Posted on June 9, 2006


Webmanco, Tinto.... Since...(All Prais be to GomezMan5!)

(NO SOMOS DIGNOS!)...this seems to be a popular and relatively light-hearted thread, and will be a topic for some time to come (what? two or three more weeks? longer?), then maybe you could move it up to the front and keep it there until it is over. (Just my opinion, M_C)

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the final game is JULY 9.

Posted on June 9, 2006


futbol I'm rooting for Costa Rica (eventhough they probably won't go too far).



Ecuador... nah. Colombia taught those guys everything they know about soccer and suddenly, they are starring us down, their heads got too big.



Brazil is our best bet as far as South America goes.

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You sound like my wife, Colombiche. She roots for the South American teams. I told her, what do you care if those malcriados Argentines win? She just grinned and said she was from South America and so were they and that was enough.

Posted on June 9, 2006


What The World Cup won't do, to disturb normal behavior: PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) - The chief of Cambodia's Buddhist monks is cutting his charges some slack for the duration of soccer's World Cup: they may watch the matches on television, but no cheering or getting excited.





And absolutely no betting.



The country's holy men - more than 90 percent of Cambodia's 13 million people are Buddhist - normally aren't supposed to watch television, movies or artistic displays. According to Buddhism's strictest tenets, they should abstain from pleasurable activity. Gambling is a major no-no.



But monks get as excited as anyone else at the chance to watch soccer's top stars, and Supreme Patriarch Non Ngeth is willing to make allowances for such a special occasion. The games in Germany began Friday and run until the final on July 9.



"The monks can watch the games on TV, but they may not bet on the games," the supreme patriarch told The Associated Press. "So far, I have received some complaints that some monks are betting during this World Cup tournament."



He also says he urged the country's monks, if they do watch the matches, not to scream or laugh.



"Cheering or screaming while watching TV are acts appropriate for children," he said. "Monks may not act like that."



Non Ngeth has reason to be concerned about the country's monks. In recent years, several monks have made newspaper headlines for fighting with slingshots and petrol bombs at a temple, molesting a boy, beating a man and stealing motorcycles.

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Noooooooo!!!!!! Not Argentina, no, my southamericanism doesn't go that far!!!

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God.....can't disappear for even couple of hours Funny. I love this site. I'm a Mexico lover (aka GomeXman5) and I'm a Mexico hater (taco comment). I guess that only proves, I'm Fair and Balanced.



Well, it should come as no suprise, the old timers should no who I favor.



1. US

1A. Mexico. I'll explain. If the US wins, who is going to care? I can assure you, on the local news here in Chicago. If the Cubs win or lose, they will be covered first. If the White Sox win or lose, they will be next story. Then, the NBA playoffs. Then something about the Bears mini camp. And in the last 15 seconds, the fact that the US World Cup won a game will get a mere mention. Get the point? Nobody in this country care ab out the US soccer team, so I figure, why not give it to a country that really appreciates this match? In Mexico today, everything stopped, woke up early for a sunday, or whatever, to watch their beloved Mexico play. OK.....back to my choices



2. Any Latin American team. I prefer it NOT be Argentina or Brazil. However, suffice to say, if a Latin American team does win, it will in fact probably one of those two team....



3. ??? I have not thought about it after that

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Gringo wrote "I thought your team was 'the Corns'."



The Cornish play rugby not football.

Posted on June 9, 2006


mañana What? No love for los Estados Unidos?

I think we're going to upset the Czech Republic.

Posted on June 9, 2006


Actually since the odds makers are favouring the US to win it wouldn't be an upset. The odds makers are always a better judge of teams than FIFA rankings.



Today some US players were saying that they play a similar game to Holland (they wish), anyway they were going on record to say they would control the majority of the ball. Nedved doesn't need the ball for long though. If the US attacks they should do good, if they play defensively they will get caught by surprise.



Italy is favoured to come out on top in the group.

Posted on June 9, 2006


"If the US wins, who is going to care? I can assure you, on the local news here in Chicago. If the Cubs win or lose, they will be covered first. If the White Sox win or lose, they will be next story. Then, the NBA playoffs. Then something about the Bears mini camp. And in the last 15 seconds, the fact that the US World Cup won a game will get a mere mention. Get the point? Nobody in this country care ab out the US soccer team, so I figure, why not give it to a country that really appreciates this match? In Mexico today, everything stopped, woke up early for a sunday, or whatever, to watch their beloved Mexico play."











Excellent Point! This is exactly why I don't want the US to win it all, a country that is so apathetic about soccer doesn't deserve it!

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See Simon....we can agree on things Yea....that's about it. Look, in the morning, I'll go to work. I have my 5 inch B&W TV that I pop on my desk to watch the game. It's my World Cup TV because I only use it non stop every 4 years. Then, it's back to the cabinet. Anyway, I'll walk in the office, and everybody is going to be talking about the highlights of the Cubs and Sox (mostly Cubs). The US will be playing in only a couple of hours,yet nobody, I mean nobody will give a damn. In fact, the closest person that I can find that will be interested in the game, is a Mexican secretary who works down the hall but just so happens to want to see the US win as well as Mexico.



I think Simon is on to something, if the country does not even give a damn about its team, then....what's the point? The only thing I can say is this however, the more the team plays, the more people will take interest, and the further they go, the more the people will catch on. Look at it this way. Before, the Cup was played here in 94, soccer was just something people heard about, but it was played no where. Since that time. IN Suburban (white) America, soccer is very big in the high schools, and now in the universities. That's where the term "soccer mom" comes from. Also, considering how new it is here, our major league soccer has gotten to be quite a credible league. So.....although the support is not where I would like it to be, it's getting better. Oh, The Chicago Fire has expanded so much, as season ticket sales continue to do well, it is my understanding that they will soon be getting their own stadium in suburban Chicago.

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"Nuff Said", GomexMan5! I think I wrote that last paragraph and you stole it! Maybe there IS HOPE for Peace thru Soccer.



I know lots of teenage 'select' soccer players in my town, but they 'don't know who they're pulling for'...so, obviously, they are not pulling for the USA. It is like they are looking for something solid, and substantial, as to being traditional AND contemporary, a mismo tiempo.



AAAaaahhh, Tinto??? Webmanco? I donno what happened there, but IF YOU COULD ONLY MOVE THIS THREAD.....O N E...T I M E.... rather than four.... Well, I think most would like that. Thanks.

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In the Sunday paper here in Orlando World Cup was buried towards the back of the sports section. Nuff said.



Marcelo Balboa can't even name the players properly or the teams, if he a US footballer can't even get it right how can they expect Joe Public to cotton on.



In the US paper they rank Steven Gerrard as England's best player, must have been a scouse bastard that moved to the US.



Poor Little Scouser



He's only a poor little scouser

His face is all tattered and torn

He made me feel sick

So I hit him with a brick

And now he can't sing anymore!

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West coast. I think soccer is getting bigger here on the west coast of the USA. I grew up in Oregon and my dad was a huge soccer fan so I am a little biased, but I played in HS and our team had a lot of support, ie people were interested. We also have a minor league team the Timberwolves who are very popular. Then I moved down to the California and saw that soccer was popular in this area too.

The San Jose team has a decent fan base, and it is not made up entirely of latinos as some people suggest. So Gozeman we may be in agreement. Miracle of miracles! Soccer is becoming more popular, but still not at the level I wish it were. I love those SMILFs too.

As to the fair and balanced thing, if you are using the fox news definition we are in agreement again.

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Johna.....& Kernow Miracles, that we're in agreement? Not at all. We may disagree a lot, but we always disagree in the same subject are. There are so many things to talk about, and so many people to share ideas with, that I feel confident that we could be "on the same page" in many areas. And, it looks like this is one of them. As long as when everyone logs in here and at the same time everyone says to themselves that today is a new day, then I feel confident that there are other areas that we can find a common ground. And, I tend to be a little privy to Fox News, which is one area that I know is not to well liked here.

Peace Johna....OK...back to football/soccer.



The kind of stuff that you experienced here out west pretty much happens here in the Chicago area. Soccer in the city per se does not have much support, but if you get into the suburbs, especially the middle/upper middle class suburbs, it is more popular.



Kernow, that really surprises me about Orlando. As we have talked about before, with the growing Latino population, I would have thought that there would be greater coverage of the Cup. Well, like I said, it will just take more time.



In the meantime, the US is starting and it's off to my 5 inch B&W TV on my desk...so Go US !!

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Ok First of all to my buddy Pedro in Perth, congratulations!!!

Soccer in my hometown of St. Louis, Missouri, is, has been, and probably always will be very popular. Do a Google search and read about our soccer heritage.

Tengo que irme...CZE 1 USA 0

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Paz a ti tambien G5. lets hope the US gets one soon.

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Uhmmm that cup smell Italy

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Ouch, I know England played poorly too, but a win is a win. The US didn't have the luxury of a win when playing poorly. They couldn't keep control like Holland does as they had predicted, and worse they couldn't penetrate the defense which is the Czech teams only slightly weak point. Italy has a great defense.



It isn't quite time to pack the bags back home to the land of Yanks, but as the US has never won a World Cup match in Europe I am not holding my breath.



G5 the Spanish language local papers may have covered it a bit more, but as Puerto Ricans and Dominicans are baseball mad it wouldn't surprise me if the Spanish papers displayed a paucity of coverage.

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The US is playing in the World Cup? Who let that happen?

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UTC, They let them in and even let them be host in 1994 in Los Angeles, when the United States defeated Colombia in the World Cup, by a score of 2-1.

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Johna, the San Jose... Earthquakes just recently moved to Houston. they were going to be renamed "the 1836", which besides sounding stupid, was in celebration of the battle at the Alamo. The new ownwers finaly came to their senses and realised that it wasn't to smart to offend the mexican fan base.



BillyB

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As far as the US is concerned They are a bunch of Guevones



They played poorly. Kernow is right, if they could not penetrate the Czech offense, how do they think that they are going to defeat Italy, who has even a better offense. But it was not just just the Czech defense that shut them down. The US offense just could not seem to execute. Sure they caught a few bad breaks, but that was not an excuse for them being unable to set up and take some quality shots.The US looked tired, and disinterested.



If they don't come out better prepared against Italy, they will deserve the eminent early departure.

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I'm still waiting for it to come true that it's possible that... ON ANY GIVEN DAY, Croatia could defeat Brazil... like maybe tomorrow? Anybody want to take the odds? I got this feeling tomorrow could be Croatia's day. 1-0 Croatia.plátano

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Platano..... Suffice to say, I would love to see Croatia beat Brazil. An early departure by Brazil would be the upset of all upsets.



OK, so I'm dreaming, but like Platano says...."On any given day...."

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Croatia beating Brazil, G5? Since you are a Cubs fan, I understand that mentality, and respect it, but it ain't gonna happen. HOWEVER, if it does, I will go on record to cover your first night's expenses in your friend's wiskeria en Bogotá. Day two through ¿ día? you are on your own!

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Billyb I had heard about them moving but didn't realize it happened already. That is a stupid name, and by the way didn't the texans get thumped at the Alamo. They should forget the Alamo, not remember it. What is the new name going to be?

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The US team deserves an early exit not that anyone cares.

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Re: Croatia-Brazil match... Well... I got the 1-0 right! LOL!

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Embarassment The US coughed up a goal in the 5th minute, and basically that ended the tournament for the US. Germany 06 lasted 5 minutes for US soccer fans.

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US soccer fans? I think the 5 of them chartered a Cessna to fly over there.

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No Utopia, they are Americans, they used a self-powered hot air balloon. ;-)

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..and, since the Americans already lost game one... they have 'TURNED THE BALLOON TOWARDS COLOMBIA'. Better things to do!

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I thought they were fighters, not quitters. They aren't out of it yet, but are already resigned to leaving.

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Hale to the Mother Country! It may not be South America, but... I gotta pull for Spain, since Colombia is on vacation for this WC. Could the Ukraine really be that bad? to get beat by 4?



I tire quickly, of all the Americans on radio talk shows, saying what they don't like about soccer, and what needs changed, to accomodat the american fan. (They're not going to change it for the 'arrogant american sports fanz'; thanks to the pressure from FIFA and the rest of the world standards! Really pretty neat, that here is one place where America doesn't rule the roost and get what America wants.)



But, (even as one who played in college) I would like to see "NO TIES".... NO MAS! No More Tied Scores. None. Nada. Never. Forevermore. Every game.

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"SPAIN'S DAZZLES WITH A SCANDALOUS GOAL TALLY" (El Mundo)



"Each goal was greeted with the honking of car horns around Madrid and cheered by about a thousand jubilant supporters watching a giant TV screen downtown in the capital.



Spain, with a best World Cup placing of fourth in 1950, is NOW UNBEATEN in 23 MATCHES - 14 wins and nine draws - since coach Luis Aragones took over after the team flopped at the 2004 European Championships.



...the biggest winning margin so far in the tournament - saying it had surpassed their wildest expectations.



Spain's delight was increased as Ukraine was regarded as its toughest opponent in Group H.



Spain's emphatic win adds to its recent run of sporting success, with tennis star Rafael Nadal winning the French Open last weekend and Fernando Alonso dominating Formula One.



Spanish soccer teams won both the European competitions last month, with FC Barcelona lifting the Champions League and Sevilla the UEFA Cup.



Spain's sports minister Jaime Lissavetzky, who attended the game, said Spain had functioned like "a well-oiled machine."



________________________



Lissavetzky???



Yep. This is the team I'm pulling for, rest of the tournament. Why not?



http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/5694922



KERNOW, those look like ENGLISH headlines, to me. (and, with a Polish? sports minister) "We Are Global"

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Diego Maradona was cited in the german press this morning saying that Spain has the strongest team in this worldcup.

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Those Spaniards! Indeed, very impressive; in particular the passing.

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Barca were helped by an early sending off of Arsenal's goalie (also Germany's goalie). I think Arsenal may have just pipped them in that game.



I would agree with the short fat guy from Argentina, Spain is in good form and has bags of talent. Their bench could eat many teams in the competition.



They deserve a win. So do Holland.

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Yes, Spain looks good... better than Brazil's pathetic... one goal at the 44 minute mark against Croatia... Spain would make Brazil look like a school yard pick up team....plátano

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