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Work With Pension Visa?

When I applied for my Visa Pensionado it was very clear somewhere in the instructions/requirements that a foreigner with that visa was not permitted to work in Colombia. My wife believes that only applies to emprezas and that giving private English lessons for example would be legal. Que opinan?

By Atrevido on Nov 4, 2007, 09:07 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


miamimike says on Nov 4, 2007, 09:34:

Work is work, what does the written law say?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

vicshere says on Nov 4, 2007, 10:17:

working NO....what you do in your house is your business..teaching english or a cat house

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Lowell says on Nov 4, 2007, 10:46:

Vic, isn't that still work/earned income? If not I'm opening classes. I've been approached several times to teach proper pronucniation to people who have basic knowledge but want to speak correctly. Like saying stop, not estop.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

Morrongo says on Nov 4, 2007, 11:25:

technically you have to register a business in the Camara,but teaching private lessions in your own house or theirs,whos going to give a hoot.

Lowell says on Nov 4, 2007, 11:29:

Until some one gets pissed off that you may have taken a student away from them and makes a complaint.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

vicshere says on Nov 4, 2007, 11:47:

no way lowell

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vicshere says on Nov 4, 2007, 11:48:

i dont give private .....cause they dont pay their classes

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Lowell says on Nov 4, 2007, 12:49:

so what if a complaint was made to das, what are the penaties? for me it would be pay as you enter, 5 (5 mil for 2 hours) or more or no session.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

Gator says on Nov 4, 2007, 15:26:

Miamimike is correct, work is work ( A rose by any other name...?). I was also told this visa is similar to a spouse visa in regards to work. You have to trot down to MRE in Bogotá to have an amendment added and there is a LOT of paperwork from at least two other agencies involved.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

wcarmack says on Nov 4, 2007, 15:37:

When my wife and I attended a seminar in Costa Rica two years ago one of the lectures was on the Pensionado visa - as it is in Costa Rica. Clearly the Pensioner could not be on the payroll of a company BUT the Pensioner could own and operate their own business. They could not pay themselves a salary though. But they could keep the profits (less taxes, of course.)

I have no idea what the law in Colombia is regarding this however.

vicshere says on Nov 4, 2007, 15:43:

in colombia you cant even crap with a Pensionado visa

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miamimike says on Nov 4, 2007, 19:28:

vicshere says on Sunday November 4th, 2007 15:43:

in colombia you cant even crap with a Pensionado visa
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Colombia really needs to work on this issue if they are ever to attract Mainstream American Retirees like the Couple/Pareja Variety as they do in Mexico, Panama, Nicaraugua and Honduras. They need to come up with a Pensioner's Visa with Tangible benefits if they hope to attract the Hard Currency these couples will bring and spend in Colombia.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

vicshere says on Nov 4, 2007, 19:59:

mike i agree in costa rica its an industry all by itself

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miamimike says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:11:

Vicshere, As it is in countries like Mexico also.In my ex-wife's hometownof Guadalajara, cottage industries have sprung up in recent years to service the 70,000 American and Canadian retirees who live there. Its not unusual to see help wanted ads for American real Estate agents or Nurses ect to work with retired americans.Not to Mention Wal-Mart HAS ARRIVED in Guadalajara though its called Wal-Mex there.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

BAQ says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:34:

It amazes me that once you are a RESIDENT of Colombia, regardless of visa type, that you are restricted from working. I will never fully understand Colomias visa system.

Semper Fidelis !

vicshere says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:37:

BAQ deep down Colombians don't want us here and do the utmost to drive us away.....but we are the hard heads that defy all logic and reason

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Lowell says on Nov 5, 2007, 14:03:

Panama has the same law.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

BAQ says on Nov 5, 2007, 14:35:

yea Vic, you would think they would be begging for those foreign pension dollars to be spent in Colombia, but NOOOOOO, they want to make it a pain in the ass to stay here. DAS, those SOB{s are so rude, they dont give a damn and to top it all off, just to screw with ya, they give you bad and wrong info.

HOWEVER, Colombia sure doesnt have any problems begging our Govt for handouts, military advisors to help train their military ect.

Have thought seriously several tim about packing my toys and moving someplace else, but the wife always convinces me to stay.

But as I always say, ITS COLOMBIA.

Semper Fidelis !

miamimike says on Nov 6, 2007, 06:54:

Lowell, Panama Retiree Visas and related benefits are quite different then those found in Colombia.

Panama:

Benefits for people who move to Panama under a
Retirement Visa
• Import tax exemption on household goods and/or
cars, motorcycles. Cars/motorcycles must be held for 2 years and then a sale is permitted. You are then allowed to re-import another new Car/Cycle at this time and repeat the process if desired. Other taxes apply.
• No property taxes for 15, 10 or 5 years depending
on the property

The following discounts can be found in the Law No. 6
from June 16, 1987
•Discounts on prescription drugs and health care
services, i.e., 20% in general, specialist and surgical
doctor fees, 15% in hospital and private clinic bills,
15% dental services




15% optometry services and 10% in prescription drugs.
• Discounts on airfares 25%, restaurants 25%, fast food chains 15%, movies, theatres and
others 50%, public transport (air, ground, sea) 30%, lodging 30% to 50%, technical and
professional services 20%, closing costs for personal loans 50%, interest rate for personal
loans 15%, mortgage interest rate 1%, utility bills 25% (certain restrictions apply).

Other benefits of moving to Panama (Any Visa)
• No income tax on incomes earned outside Panama

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

vicshere says on Nov 6, 2007, 07:09:

no thats what i am talking about mike....but sadly only a dream in colombia

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BAQ says on Nov 6, 2007, 10:45:

SHIT, If this is true, and I will check it out, will hop a plane and check out the cost or housing ect. Just might move afterall. Wonder if ya get a FREE PANAMA HAT with that pension visa

Semper Fidelis !

Lowell says on Nov 6, 2007, 13:49:

Yea I know I'm a pensionado in Panama too. What I was talking about is the no work part.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

Lowell says on Nov 6, 2007, 13:52:

Vic I wouldn't be surprised if Colombia didn't do something similar as Panama. There's already a bill/law being presented that offers some benifits to the pensionado. If passed I hope it is retroactive.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

vicshere says on Nov 6, 2007, 18:08:

lowell i would only hope as i have my motorcycel back in canada wating to come down

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