Witchcraft and exorcism in Colombia

goosekirk says on Jul 2, 2005, 12:22:

Only one small data point A Colombian friend warned me not to leave my first-floor bedroom window open, even though it's got sturdy bars on it. His reason? Someone might drop some kind of black magic thingamabob into my room.

He was serious.

kernow62 says on Jul 2, 2005, 12:25:

Oh yeah I could tell you some good ones, they all are to do with my paisa ex and her family. Brujas all of them!

The thing that makes me laugh is the lucky aerosol sprays with the indio charms that will help you win the lottery. They also used the bathroom as a sort of shrine with all sorts of little amulets, statues and candles burning 24/7, it was hotter than hell in that toilet. It was all perfectly normal for them too.

One of my ex brother-in-laws was bewitched by his wife, that is the only explanation any of us could come up with because he is a well-built handsome guy and she is a little short fat ugly woman. Apparently mother-in-law hit upon the correct candle or aerosol or something because she disappeared.

It isn't just Colombians though, a good friend of mune from the Bronx is a santaria priest. We also have a lot of pellars (white witches) in our family, I even have an adder stone, or milpreve that belonged to my great grandmother. The most I get involved with is herbal and stone magic.

Oh I always where one sock inside out just in case the little people try to take me. Don't think that works for the FARC though.

kernow62 says on Jul 2, 2005, 12:27:

Shortly after we moved into our hose I found some chicken feathers and blood on my doorstep surrounded with salt. Nothing happened to me, but the blood is a bitch to remove, so I put a doormat over it.

MacGringo says on Jul 2, 2005, 12:28:

FREAKY STUFF! Utopia,
I have heard of stories like this before. I have a friend from Holland who's girlfriend is originally from Surinam.
When he visited Surinam with her to meet her family he witnessed a similar ceremony to this, some kind of exorcism to ward of the evil.
This kind of freaked him out a bit, especially as there is a market stall there that deals specifically in selling ingredients and instruments used specifically for this kind of black magic.

He did also witness some strange things with what I can only describe as witch doctors. People with serious health problems (I'm not sure what) being cured by the hands of this witch doctor in a very strange ceremony.

From the impression I got from my friend this was very common practice there.

STICK TO THE PATH, DON'T STRAY ONTO THE MOOR!!!!!

silviat says on Jul 2, 2005, 12:39:

I heard a couple scary ones too My first boyfriends mother supose to had receive a spell from this man who wanted to marry her and take her 3 houses. That was like 5 years ago but they found out about it just a couple years ago.

She said she used to have terrible nightmares and she used to smell sulphur in her room so she thought it was her husbands soul (i know it sounds weird, it does to me since I feel I am pretty skeptical but thats their story). Then they started hearing things in the house but all of them thought it was the soul of the dead father. Well it so it wasnt, it was caused by the spell of this man who was trying to marry her. They went to a witch and she described them the man's appearance and told them what the man was doing to her. She also described how they met, and told him during that afternoon he used his skill of "praying" in the black sense (i have no idea what that means but I guess it is spelling a person just by saying words or something like it), and thats how he got her from the beginning.
Another thing is that this priest came to her house without knowing her to tell her he felt somebody was going to damage her really bad. So basically with the help of the priest and the witch (strange combination) she got out of that.
1 year ago one of her clients who works at la Fiscalia (the evil guy does as well) called her and asked If she was alright? So she said yes, why? So the women told her this guy was talking at work about all of the money he spent on witchery on her and how it didnt work, and how he was very mad at that.
The thing is that the lady, my first bfs mom, isnt crazy or nothing else, she is the sweetest and loveliest person on earth, but it seems all of this is true... at least for them.

And another persons story was that this girl who was very succesful at my university all of the sudden started to smell reallly really bad, and then started to lose lots of weight and to get really sick from her stomach, she lost many pounds and she did look terrible ( and she wasnt anorexic from what i know). I was told that she went once to bogota to visit her family and one friend of the family told her mother that she was going to die soon at least someone helped her. So they took her to a witch and this lady gave her a white egg and a glass (vaso) , and did some prayings and then told her to move the egg close to her body from the feet to the forehead, and then when the girl looked at the egg it was black all of the sudden, then she broke the egg and from it came a worm and some dirt... suposedly it was dirt from a grave and someone at the university gave her that on a dark drink ( like a coke or coffee).

Now in my family there were never beliefs of that kind, or of any kind ... so this arent my stories, and they were told to me from people i have considered very honest and not liars... so I dont know... I just have decided to think there are somethings I cant explain and I wont even try... and that I will ignore them or I will be living scared of somebody doing crazy weird things to me

quindioman says on Jul 2, 2005, 13:54:

i wrote on this not too long upon arriving at pbh...i don't think many people took notice so i won't regurgitate...suffice to say that i have personal experience on this subject...since that night in la casa de mi abuela en el zuldemayda 10 years ago i know there are things out there that science cannot (and will not) explain to me....this is a subject that is never given a chance as it's instantly ridiculed....i keep a very open mind on this...plus i've also seen a ufo in armenia...not kidding either

adrimm says on Jul 2, 2005, 13:57:

Sustos and espantos My mother's side of the family heartily believe in ghosts. They were afraid to let me sleep in a particular room becuase it was aparently haunted. Somehow I suprisingly (accoording to them) survived my week in the house with nary a problem. I guess I seemed skeptical of the story becuase I was dragged off to the office of relative (a lawyer) who, sitting behind his immense desk, in his office with a view calmly proceeded to tell me his experiences with the ghost.

It was just so funny to see the man, in his suit and fancy schmancy office being perfectly earnest about hauntings, where a lawyer here at home would have quietly been encouraged to "seek help".

I'm not anti-spirit, my own experiences with close deaths have shown me this, but to see the "supernatural" aspects to openly embraced, and blamed for sooooo much is rather amusing.

Did anyone hear the story of a family who was forced to extortion, and allowing the daughter and wife to be raped by a guy claiming to be a demon? He was convincing enough that they stayed under his thumb till a relative in another city caught wind and went to the police.

maleorange says on Jul 2, 2005, 14:16:

i would like to say When black magic comes up everyone is interested in it and many people including myself believe that it works. Please rememebr that if some thing so negative works then powerful healing loving magic works. There is a book called healing prays by larry dossy. It shows scientifically how the healing energy works on people animals and plants. We have so much magical power to do good. Even some thing like a smile can lift someone out of feeling life is bad. A few words with love said (we all know how an aggresive look is powerful and bad words said are powerful) are powerful in helping someone. If you know someone that has a hard life close your eyes and see them surrounded by love. All someone in the black arts does is use there imagination in the wrong way (never do that as there is a spiritual pay back and some thing abd will eventually happen to you) I am basically saying with love we have power to change our lives and other peoples

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 2, 2005, 16:07:

UC I cast spell on you ;-)

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 2, 2005, 21:08:

Yeah, Cockney, I remember your post very well. It was a pretty spooky experience.

Kat, I think you have the entire male population under some kind of spell.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

hopeful says on Jul 2, 2005, 23:37:

My friend's mother believes in the bruja... ... and my friend wonders if it is true.

Someone stole her underware from the laundry and being a very personal item, this is all the bruja needs to make the curse she says.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2005, 01:08:

how come you guys didn't come up with all these stories when I opened a thread about religious sincretism in Colombia very recently?????????????????????????I feel extremely very outrageously slighted.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

rjstuff says on Jul 3, 2005, 09:40:

Desi someone cast a spelll on your post about religious sinceretism - too big a word to use in my opinion! If you had said witchcraft, we would be lined up posting our experiences!

quindioman says on Jul 3, 2005, 09:43:

amen to rjstuff.....i had to look that word up in the dictionary desi

MacGringo says on Jul 3, 2005, 10:54:

EVIL!!!!! Should I pack my crucifix, holy water, stakes, silver bullets and garlic when I come to Colombia??

quindioman says on Jul 3, 2005, 10:58:

jejejeje i wouldn't wish what happened to me on even my worst enemy but i would love to see/hear the reaction of a non-believer when they in bed and suddenly can't breathe or open their eyes...jejejejeje

MacGringo says on Jul 3, 2005, 11:08:

I'm not a non - believer cockney,my last statement was just a joke. I have read you're story before about what happened and it is very disturbing.
I have heard of a few different stories like this , enough to make me believe that there is definately something in it.
Didn't mean to offend you friend!

utopiacowboy says on Jul 3, 2005, 11:11:

Yeah, cuidado, he may put a spell on you and it won't be like the one Kat has on us!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

MacGringo says on Jul 3, 2005, 11:15:

UC, forgive me here for being naive, but what is this spell that Kat has on everyone??

quindioman says on Jul 3, 2005, 11:18:

uc i don't know why this is so common and prevalent amongst not only Colombians but some latin american countries.
My mum is bang into all of this (hebal baths and stuff like that).
I was very sceptical of all this at the beginning but even nowadays I still get the occassional night where i'm being "disturbed".
i was fine and for 18 years of my life never experienced these problems but since that particular night where me and my cousin were haunted i started experiencing these worrying symptons..... coincidence? I'd like to think so but there are too many for this to be a big coincidence....no....i am for the best part convinced that there are malignant spirits (and if there are malignant spirits then surely there must be good spirits without one you can't have the other)
I don't have to go very far to get someone to back me up....my fiancee has always being banging on about the fact that her ex has put a nasty spell on her....she sounds extremely convincing and has been told by reliable sources that in fact there is some "work" that was put on her...in fact she had an "accident" in December where she "accidentally" shot herself above the left knee with a 9mm from point blank range....apparently she was meant to have killed herself...she didn't die...but she spent most of december in hospital and lost a lot of blood as well as that banging backside she had.
UC it is very weird all this talk of witchcraft (particularly if one has been bought up in a western society) but it is very normal in colombia...perhaps....just perhaps these guys might be talking truth

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2005, 12:05:

Don't worry Mc Gringo I only cast an spell on UC, his bum must be itching by now, jeje ;-)
ah y yo no creo en brujas, pero de que las hay las hay! UUUUUUUUUUU

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quindioman says on Jul 3, 2005, 12:15:

no offence taken mcgringo, i gained an extra few layers of skin in an earlier thread with colombian x and greenday( i have to thank him for that...honestly). I was joking too by the way.
Don't worry guys...even though i am a firm believer that this stuff works i wouldn't practise this stuff if you promised me a million pounds.
My conscience stops me doing a lot of things i would jump at doing.

utopiacowboy says on Jul 3, 2005, 12:22:

You know what they say, Kat. He who goes to bed with itchy asshole wakes up with stinky finger.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2005, 12:27:

yuck!

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Miguel says on Jul 3, 2005, 14:29:

Damn UC Sad to say but that's almost the most profound comment here today, second only to kat1's response! And Cockney, the same thing happened to me the last night on my last trip to Barranquilla. I was in bed with the comandante and at one point I could not breath or open my eyes and it was great;-)

utopiacowboy says on Jul 3, 2005, 14:40:

Well, Kat, you're the one that put the spell on my ass. I had to shove a cucumber up there for relief.

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kernow62 says on Jul 3, 2005, 16:27:

Now that I believe!

Is that what you guys are calling them now, cucumbers?

Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more...

utopiacowboy says on Jul 3, 2005, 18:00:

Reminds me of the two carrots growing in a field they grew so big they got up and started walking down the road. Unfortunately a car came along and hit one of them. Later in the hospital the doctor came up to the surviving carrot and said, "I've got good news and bad news about your friend. The good news is he is going to live. The bad news is he's going to be a vegetable the rest of his life."

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Peter Miami says on Jul 3, 2005, 19:16:

Well I guess everybody is scare I am not, I do not believe on any of this ridicules stuff. If it does work how come they can not get rid of the terrorist, drug dealers, murderers, molesters or all the bad people we have in this planet. If you need to find me I am here in Miami or I will be in Colombia from August 12 to the 30th and December 16 to January 3, 2006. Come get me here I am.

Peter Miami

utopiacowboy says on Jul 3, 2005, 23:16:

Well, Peter Miami, it's not that simple. We need some hair from your hair brush and some of your undies to do a really good job of cursing you. Then of course we have to know where you live so we can put these items in your house or yard to get the job done.

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andrea_despentes says on Jul 3, 2005, 23:59:

this witchcraft thing is very common in the regions of colombia with a heavy black population

choco, guajira, cordoba etc.

it has to do with the african influence colombia has, if u think witchcraft is big on colombia, i advise u to visit cuba or brazil!!!

there u'll be amazed

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 4, 2005, 00:16:

UC That joke, I don't know if to laugh or cry.......

Al Paredon darling ;-)

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Hunter says on Jul 4, 2005, 00:48:

andrea_despentes Exactly what I was thinking, its to do with the origins of some of the people of Colombia.

There is whichcraft in Western countries, but no where near as on the scale in African Countries, or some Caribean/South American Countries.


Hunter

MacGringo says on Jul 4, 2005, 10:28:

Talking of jokes! A frog and toad are walking down the road when the toads arse falls off.

The frog turns and says "do you want your arse toad?"

To which the toad replies "do you want your balls kicked?"

hehehehe

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 4, 2005, 11:17:

Pease lets no encourage Plata Please lets no encourage Platano.otherwise we will bw witchcraft with a lot of jokes.

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quindioman says on Jul 4, 2005, 12:58:

peter miami uc as joking when he said they need your hair and undies but he wasn't far from the truth....that's why my uncles explicitally told me not to give personal possessions away....especially photos.
Being a bastard with the girls boosts your chances of getting hexed/cursed...nothing like a colombiana in love scorned

quindioman says on Jul 4, 2005, 13:02:

miguel very funny...produced a smile.....what was the comandante like?

smoothing says on Nov 22, 2005, 06:36:

this book would help there is a book called "the spirits book" by alan kardec.It is really good.he is the father of spiritism from brazil.I attended one of his churches in cartagena last year also one in d.c.I can relate to all that everyone here is saying.but the mother in law having chest pains was probably stress ..thinking about all that has happened.some times a person can scare theirself into thinking so and on the other hand..there is that world where few can see

SMOOTHING

ARMacleod says on Nov 22, 2005, 09:18:

For gods sake Kerry, you are neither male or I suspect orange. You talk enough absurdity to offend even a half wit. Before you post your garbage, do us a favour, please, run it through the spell checker and what is more important the thesaurus.

In all of your past aliases you have and continue to use the incorrect gender and grammar in certain words in your every post.

This is to my certain knowledge your fifth alias and I am sure it will not be your last. You have given up the right to any semblance of maleness and you will remain what you were born, female. You are also incidentally, a disgrace to every female in the UK.

My stated facts, although interesting at times, are generally, in this case also very revelant.

The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.