pbh home > > post  

Pst! Don't go to the easy 7 second sign up. Existing users: sign in.

poorbuthappy home  

all forums, active | friendly talkzone, travel tips, visa & paperwork, renting, selling & meetups, politics & the war, espanol

Will vote in Bolivia spur separatism moves abroad?

Will vote in Bolivia spur separatism moves abroad?
Posted on Thu, May. 08, 2008Digg del.icio.us AIM reprint print email
By ANDRES OPPENHEIMER
aoppenheimer at MiamiHerald.com
The 84 percent victory of pro-autonomy forces in Sunday's referendum called by Bolivia's wealthy eastern province of Santa Cruz in open defiance of that country's central government has triggered fears of a chain reaction of separatist movements throughout Latin America.

The leftist governments of Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba lashed out against the Santa Cruz autonomy vote, claiming it represents the beginning of a U.S. effort to dismember politically independent Latin American countries and create new pro-American states in the region.

The State Department says such charges are ridiculous, and that ``we support Bolivia's unity and territorial integrity.''

A U.S. PLOT?

Venezuela's narcissistLeninist President Hugo Chávez claims the alleged U.S. plot is directed against him and his Latin America-wide ``Bolivarian revolution.''

According to Chávez, the U.S. ''empire'' is hoping that wealthy elites in Bolivia, as well as in Venezuela's oil-rich state of Zulia and Ecuador's wealthy Guayas province, will soon rise up and try to create independent pro-U.S. states.

Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said in his weekend radio address that ''separatist oligarchic groups'' backed by foreign powers are trying to destabilize the region and ``create a Balkanization process in Latin America.''

As I listened to Chávez and his followers, I couldn't help thinking of the 2005 book The Untied States of America by Juan Enriquez. The book reminds us that there have been no new borders on the American continent since 1910 ''but this stability may be coming to an end'' as increasingly more rich provinces around the world are rebelling against inefficient or despotic central governments.

The number of countries in the world has soared from 50 United Nations' members in 1950 to almost 195 members today. From 1900 to 1950, an average of 1.2 new countries were created a year. From 1950 to 1990, the average rose to 2.2 per year, and during the 1990s it went up to 3.1 new sovereignties a year.

''Flags can appear and disappear very quickly,'' Enriquez said.

A FIRM DENIAL

But Bolivia's pro-autonomy leaders categorically deny that they are seeking independence.

They say that Chávez and his followers are trying to discredit them by branding them as separatists.

Santa Cruz Gov. Ruben Costas, whose state accounts for a third of Bolivia's total economy, told me last week that he is only seeking greater rights for his state, much like those enjoyed by Spain's autonomous regions, or U.S. states.

In coming weeks, Bolivia's states of Beni, Pando and Tarija will hold similar pro-autonomy referendums, which polls show are likely to pass by wide margins.

And the states of Cochabamba and Chuquisaca are expected to follow suit. All of them say they are not contemplating secession, but want greater rights to defend themselves against an increasingly authoritarian central government.

A NATURAL REACTION

My opinion: The 84 percent support for autonomy rights in Santa Cruz, a 2.5 million population state, and the polls showing wide support for autonomy in neighboring states, make it difficult to believe that this is a movement of oligarchs.

Rather than that, or a sinister plot by the evil U.S. empire, it is a natural reaction by Bolivian states that want to retain some economic sanity and democratic freedoms in the face of Bolivian President Evo Morales' plan to ''re-found'' the nation and create a Venezuelan-backed socialist state, assume all-out powers, and reelect himself for life.

As Cochabamba Gov. Manfred Reyes Villa told me this week, it is Morales who is splitting Bolivia and threatening the nation's unity. Morales is pushing for a new constitution -- approved by his loyalists in a controversial session that opposition members say they were barred from participating in -- that would create 36 ethnic-based ''nationalities,'' and shift powers from the legislative branch and state governments to pro-Morales municipal ``communities.''

Said Reyes Villa, ``They want to pulverize the country to consolidate their political control.''

I agree. The rest of the world should oppose any potential pro-independence move by Santa Cruz and other disgruntled Bolivian states, but at the same time reject Morales' current effort to forcefully impose a new constitution that would create a totalitarian state.

The two sides should reach a compromise that guarantees both Bolivia's unity and states' rights before this ends in a civil war.




Posted on Thu, May. 08, 2008Digg del.icio.us AIM reprint print email
By ANDRES OPPENHEIMER
aoppenheimer at MiamiHerald.com
The 84 percent victory of pro-autonomy forces in Sunday's referendum called by Bolivia's wealthy eastern province of Santa Cruz in open defiance of that country's central government has triggered fears of a chain reaction of separatist movements throughout Latin America.

The leftist governments of Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba lashed out against the Santa Cruz autonomy vote, claiming it represents the beginning of a U.S. effort to dismember politically independent Latin American countries and create new pro-American states in the region.

The State Department says such charges are ridiculous, and that ``we support Bolivia's unity and territorial integrity.''

A U.S. PLOT?

Venezuela's narcissistLeninist President Hugo Chávez claims the alleged U.S. plot is directed against him and his Latin America-wide ``Bolivarian revolution.''

According to Chávez, the U.S. ''empire'' is hoping that wealthy elites in Bolivia, as well as in Venezuela's oil-rich state of Zulia and Ecuador's wealthy Guayas province, will soon rise up and try to create independent pro-U.S. states.

Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said in his weekend radio address that ''separatist oligarchic groups'' backed by foreign powers are trying to destabilize the region and ``create a Balkanization process in Latin America.''

As I listened to Chávez and his followers, I couldn't help thinking of the 2005 book The Untied States of America by Juan Enriquez. The book reminds us that there have been no new borders on the American continent since 1910 ''but this stability may be coming to an end'' as increasingly more rich provinces around the world are rebelling against inefficient or despotic central governments.

The number of countries in the world has soared from 50 United Nations' members in 1950 to almost 195 members today. From 1900 to 1950, an average of 1.2 new countries were created a year. From 1950 to 1990, the average rose to 2.2 per year, and during the 1990s it went up to 3.1 new sovereignties a year.

''Flags can appear and disappear very quickly,'' Enriquez said.

A FIRM DENIAL

But Bolivia's pro-autonomy leaders categorically deny that they are seeking independence.

They say that Chávez and his followers are trying to discredit them by branding them as separatists.

Santa Cruz Gov. Ruben Costas, whose state accounts for a third of Bolivia's total economy, told me last week that he is only seeking greater rights for his state, much like those enjoyed by Spain's autonomous regions, or U.S. states.

In coming weeks, Bolivia's states of Beni, Pando and Tarija will hold similar pro-autonomy referendums, which polls show are likely to pass by wide margins.

And the states of Cochabamba and Chuquisaca are expected to follow suit. All of them say they are not contemplating secession, but want greater rights to defend themselves against an increasingly authoritarian central government.

A NATURAL REACTION

My opinion: The 84 percent support for autonomy rights in Santa Cruz, a 2.5 million population state, and the polls showing wide support for autonomy in neighboring states, make it difficult to believe that this is a movement of oligarchs.

Rather than that, or a sinister plot by the evil U.S. empire, it is a natural reaction by Bolivian states that want to retain some economic sanity and democratic freedoms in the face of Bolivian President Evo Morales' plan to ''re-found'' the nation and create a Venezuelan-backed socialist state, assume all-out powers, and reelect himself for life.

As Cochabamba Gov. Manfred Reyes Villa told me this week, it is Morales who is splitting Bolivia and threatening the nation's unity. Morales is pushing for a new constitution -- approved by his loyalists in a controversial session that opposition members say they were barred from participating in -- that would create 36 ethnic-based ''nationalities,'' and shift powers from the legislative branch and state governments to pro-Morales municipal ``communities.''

Said Reyes Villa, ``They want to pulverize the country to consolidate their political control.''

I agree. The rest of the world should oppose any potential pro-independence move by Santa Cruz and other disgruntled Bolivian states, but at the same time reject Morales' current effort to forcefully impose a new constitution that would create a totalitarian state.

The two sides should reach a compromise that guarantees both Bolivia's unity and states' rights before this ends in a civil war.

By billyb on May 8, 07:05 in Politics & the war. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


billyb says on May 8, 07:06:

Funny, with all its problems, Colombia doesn't have any of that going on, ok ,maybe the paisas a little, jeje.

romy says on May 8, 07:43:

Panama rings a bell...greed at its finest. We actually have a separatist movement here in Alberta, Canada for the same reasons (Quebec is more of an ethnicity issue)- the influence does seem to come from industry that is intricately tied to the US (Oil & Agriculture).
Valle del Cauca would do a lot better on its own... maybe I should push for separation there... oh but I believe in Colombia the nation.

cali373 says on May 8, 09:13:

What exactly are the autonomous looking for? I think it is just to control more the revenues coming from the gas reserves.

Because of an authoritarian government? We are talking about a country that has had more dictators/caudillos then any other South amercian country. The difference is that now it is not a central government that favor the old Oligarch.

Bolivia should never has been a country on its own but the east part of Argentina and the West part of Peru.

Smile if you are a thinker!

billyb says on May 8, 09:16:

"We actually have a separatist movement here in Alberta, Canada for the same reasons (Quebec is more of an ethnicity issue)- the influence does seem to come from industry that is intricately tied to the US (Oil & Agriculture)."

Can you say 51st state of the union?

billyb says on May 8, 17:48:

Y ahora se presenta el emperadorcito.


eltiempo.com / internacional / latinoamerica


Venezuela no se quedará de brazos cruzados si hay crisis en Bolivia, dijo Hugo Chávez


Chávez aseguró que el referéndum organizado el pasado domingo en la región boliviana de Santa Cruz (considerado ilegal por el gobierno), en el que los votos a favor de un estatuto autonómico fueron mayoritarios, es un "plan contra Sudamérica" que pasa por Ecuador y Venezuela, donde, según Chávez, existirían también intentos separatistas similares.

En un tono especialmente duro, Chávez aseguró que llegado el caso su país no se quedará inmóvil "con todo lo que esto implica".

"Ahí sí, es verdad, acúsenme de injerencia de una vez. Me declaro culpable desde ahora mismo. Si algo llega a ocurrir se rompen sencillamente las reglas del juego. Ojalá que no nos obliguen", aseguró.

"Nuestra vocación integracionista nos obliga, nuestra propia historia nos obliga a hacer estas reflexiones. Ojalá con esto contribuyamos a disuadir. Entre todos podemos disuadir estos planes. Sólo unidos, nosotros podremos frenar esos planes", aseguró.

Los ministros de 12 países sudamericanos se reunieron este jueves en Caracas para establecer las bases de un plan de seguridad energética para la región. En la declaración final del encuentro hay una mención especial para Bolivia, en la que se subraya que es "clave para el equilibrio energético de toda la región".

AFP

More posts by the same author:

Seeds of Destruction 4

Masacre en el computador 5

'Mono Jojoy' descubre plan de seis guerrilleros de las Farc para asesinarlo, según desertor 23

Guerra del café comienza en Chile: Juan Valdez abrió su primera tienda 12

Una bruja fue clave en la caída de hombre fuerte de las Farc en Buenaventura 1

Latinoamérica crecerá 4,8% y evitará recesión de EE.UU. 2

Bancolombia Jumps on Colombia Credit Upgrade Speculation 24

Dubai World eyes investment possibilities in Colombia 15

Frisco dog adopts kitten in Argentina 2

Ecuador to enshrine a woman's right to sexual happiness (but no orgasm guarantee) 41

Europa exige liberar a secuestrados 24

Once again colombianos are #1 in latin america ;) 96

Whoohoo, Danica Patrick makes IndyCar history by winning Japan 300 31

Correa advierte a las Farc: cualquier incursión será acto de guerra 15

Amistad perdida 28

Anus horriblis continues for the FARC 12

Will McCain become the first Colombian born President of the USA? 74

how the country is using books and film to woo tourists 8

'Hackean' sitio web de la presidencia de Ecuador 9

Colombia brilló en la ITB, la feria turística más importante del mundo realizada en Berlín 5


If you're not a part of this travelicious experiment just yet, just sign up here. It's free & easy.

 

Colombia | Bolivia | India | Travelicious | Learn travel Spanish | Off Topic: do your thing

Whatchoo talking about Willis? (c) 1998 - 2008 Peter Van Dijck

Visit the Hungersite daily.