Will McCain become the first Colombian born President of the USA?

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 18:54:

bump

adrienne79 says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:21:

Question- How is it that the way you see it....Panama still belongs to Colombia? and if he was born on a US military base wouldn't that mean he was born on "US soil."

sloopskipper says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:24:

SORRY, but Panamá has not belonged to Colombia since 1903(?)

DodgerDogs says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:26:

McCain was born in 1899 , so that makes him Colombian

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:30:

"SORRY, but Panamá has not belonged to Colombia since 1903(?)"


Hey, if Spain still has a claim on Gibraltar, Argentina the Malvinas and Nicaragua, San Andres, then Panama still belongs to Colombia.

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:31:

"and if he was born on a US military base wouldn't that mean he was born on "US soil."

A base taken by force, not legitimate and not US soil in my eyes.

adrienne79 says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:35:

"in my eyes" Jajaja! Sry but in your eyes Panama is still Colombia....thanks for the laugh. Good night!

sloopskipper says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:36:

And Colombia would want to claim this guy with the angry tendencies of an alcoholic?

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:38:

He wouldn't be the first angry alky in the White House, but he would be OUR first angry alky in the White House.

Rubito says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:40:

Panama ain't Colombia anymore. McCain is old but not THAT old :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

Lcacique says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:40:

nice...and the United States still belongs to the Native Americans.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:41:

I say we take it to the Hague and see what they have to say about it.

sloopskipper says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:43:

billyb says on Thursday April 10th, 2008 19:38:

He wouldn't be the first angry alky in the White House, but he would be OUR first angry alky in the White House.

Of couse, look at the angry "dry drunk" there now!

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:44:

"nice...and the United States still belongs to the Native Americans"

And you think it doesn't?

sloopskipper says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:47:

billyb says on Thursday April 10th, 2008 19:44:

"nice...and the United States still belongs to the Native Americans"

And you think it doesn't?

Only in your dreams!

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:51:

Only in the eyes of god.

Monpirri says on Apr 10, 2008, 19:59:

Billyb, this is a pretty interesting and funny post. So if that's the case I am going to vote for MaCain the Colombian running for President of the United States of America. :>)

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

MaFe says on Apr 10, 2008, 20:00:

Lcacique says on Thursday April 10th, 2008 19:40:

nice...and the United States still belongs to the Native Americans.

Nice!

"No comment" is a splendid expression. I am using it again and again." -Winston Churchill

podborski says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:08:

if the USA belongs to natives, doesn't the whole world belong to the first two inhabitants and none of us have a right to live anywhere?

podborski says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:09:

BTW, what's going on in the election? haven't heard much lately.

Is Obama going to get the nod? Can he beat McCain?

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:19:

Pod, so Adam and Eve's decendants own one hell of a lot of real estate. Ooops, that would be us? Nothing much new on the election front, unless you're buying Hillary's latest claim that she was a tank commander in the first Gulf War. It will be Obama against Juan McCain.

Frank Rizzo says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:19:

Wait....."who's on first again???"....

gringoloid says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:23:

the Indians came across the Bering Strait. it's not there's either.

Robert Jorge says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:25:

This is a wierd post Billyb. What's up? Anyone born on a US military installation is born on US soil. You know that. Now, if you think the base is unlawful and the US retained or posessed it through sinister means - that's another debate.

Robert Jorge says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:26:

Whatcha drinkin' tonight Billy?

Robert Jorge says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:27:

Surely not KoolAid.

Frank Rizzo says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:27:

Well, long before the asian came from the north west....there were the "real" first americans...

http://www.first-americans.blogspot.com/

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:30:

jaja RJ, not drinking tonight, which actually might explain the post. So you are saying Mac is not really Colombian?

gringoloid says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:36:

I covered this topic back in February.................the law was changed about 2 weeks ago to allow for this...............Obama voted for it:




gringoloid says on Tuesday February 26th, 2008 17:22: edit

is mccain colombian?

it says in the constitution that you have to be a "natural born" citizen.

mccain was born at a submarine base in Panama to american citizens and of course making him a citizen but he was not natural born.

we have a little problem here called the Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty of 1903.

this was signed fraudulently by a french citizen and was known as "The Treaty No Panamanian Signed". Another words, a fraudulent treaty that was not abolished until 1977.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay-Bunau_Varilla_Treaty

so here it says in part:

Congress of the United
States of America having passed an Act
approved June 28, 1902, in furtherance of
that object, by which the President of the
United States is authorized to acquire within a
reasonable time the control of the necessary territory
of the Republic of Colombia, and the sovereignty
of such territory being actually vested in
the Republic of Panama, the high contracting
parties have resolved for that purpose to conclude
a convention and have accordingly
appointed as their plenipotentiaries.��?


So, was the Canal Zone of the Republic of Panama a U.S. territory .................................or a U.S.-controlled Panamanian territory?

If the Canal Zone is a U.S. controlled panamanian territory, Sen. McCain may not be a natural born citizen and may not qualify to become president.

The meaning in the Constitution refers to the U.S. borders and not whether or not your parents were citizens.

There is a wildly abstract case to be made because the treaty was falsely ratifiied that mccain is colombian.

Robert Jorge says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:39:

Gloid - off topic, but have you seen the relatively new movie called "Shooter" with Mark Walberg? GREAT movie - and it's right up your alley politically. Lots of conspiracy stuff. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought of you last night when I watched it. I think I might just watch it again right now.

billyb says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:50:

I still say Panama belongs to Colombia. And while we're at it, so do Venezuela and Ecuador!! Viva Juan McCain.

ColombianoGringo says on Apr 10, 2008, 21:51:

Let's start a Nueva Nueva Granada movement ;-)

Lisa Zee says on Apr 10, 2008, 22:21:

LOL, I agree with billyb, but we don`t want him for president even if he is "Colombian"

El escudo Colombiano tiene el canal de Panama, el cual fur robado por los ......

If you want the same, vote for McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!

miamimike says on Apr 10, 2008, 23:44:

Will McCain become the first Colombian born President of the USA?
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Hope not! No way Jose!

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Robert Jorge says on Apr 10, 2008, 23:55:

The 3 choices - real bad, pretty bad, not good. Not much of a selection. Sucks.

miamimike says on Apr 11, 2008, 00:07:

RJ- IMHO, the best candidates of BOTH parties have already exited the race and the remaining others have been sidelined. In 2000, when I would have supported McCain, the Republican Party bosses didn't want McCain. They chose Bush instead, I'll bet they regret that decision 'til their last breath! Its too bad our system doesn't allow a good 3rd party candidate a chance unless he/she has extremely deep pockets! The last good Indy they had, IMO, was Ross Perot! Candiadates like Ross have the big Party Bosses quaking in their Boots! LOL

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Robert Jorge says on Apr 11, 2008, 00:33:

I voted for Perot in my first Presidential election. Oh well. I think I still have a Perot '92 button somewhere. There is rumor Jesse Ventura might make a go at it this year. I don't see it happening - and he certainly wouldn't have a chance even if it did.

miamimike says on Apr 11, 2008, 00:37:

Jesse Ventura might make a go at it this year. I don't see it happening - and he certainly wouldn't have a chance even if it did.
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Like Perot, he wouldn't stand a chance as he is too honest and plain spoken. The Media and party bosses hate a Candidate they cannot package and control.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Robert Jorge says on Apr 11, 2008, 01:10:

Hannity had Ventura on his radio program today. It was a pretty good interview and Jesse was very well-spoken. Sean tried to bait him and made smart-ass comments, and Jesse's responses were articulate and perfect rebutals. Sean, though obviously not being vicous or anything like that, was made to look like a dick a few times. (my opinion)

miamimike says on Apr 11, 2008, 01:18:

Sean Hannity needs a Slap up alongside the Head from Jesse to take some that Smartmouth away! LOL Jesse could really ring Sean's Bell a Good One! Sean may be a better man for it! LOL

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Robert Jorge says on Apr 11, 2008, 01:33:

Sean's a good guy. I don't agree with everything he says, or even some of his tactics - but he is alright. My best friend hired him, and I can't even get a free Ruth Cris dinner out of it. Sean, are you reading this?

goin_south says on Apr 11, 2008, 06:00:

billy, did you lose your mind in Pereira?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on Apr 11, 2008, 06:09:

Amongst a few other things, jeje.

billyb says on Apr 11, 2008, 06:14:

"Let's start a Nueva Nueva Granada movement ;-)"

CG, there you go, we could call it Movimiento Nuevo Nueva Granada.

gringoloid says on Apr 11, 2008, 07:01:

RJ..................i haven't seen the movie and one of the problems i have here is that when they take a hollywood movie title and translate it into spanish it becomes a total different meaning.

Like for that movie "Diehard", I would have titled it "Morir Duro"', but if you look, it's something totally different.

i actually go by the billboards and see who is in it and then look it up that way, not by the title.

jorgegdiaz says on Apr 11, 2008, 07:25:

So, does he have Panamanian or Colombian citizenship?

if I remember correctly that situation has come afloat before; Barry Goldwater, who won the republican nomination for president in 1964, faced questionning because when he was born in 1902, Arizona wasn't a state yet, still was a territory. Additionally, Mitt Romey's father, George Romney, who was born in Mexico city, was up to the same situation. However, his presidential campaign back in ´68 didn't last long enough for anyone to raise the issue.

Juan McCainn would have been thousand times better than jr should he had won the nomination in 2000.

That wording "natural born citizen" is what keeps away Arnold form the white house.

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

de pronto says on Apr 11, 2008, 08:00:

Is this an ironic post?

Interesting... but even though that for some McCain is " a born colombian" I really doubt that he will behave himself as a president for colombian people... cause americans will want to vote for someone who really cares about the United States.

LOL

... y viaje a Macondo todo pagado

Lcacique says on Apr 11, 2008, 08:50:

If we assume that he is a "Colombian" as billyb suggests, he is not in the mainstream considering that he accepts support from Reverend John Hagee (who links Catholics to the Nazis and claims they are an evil cult) and claims that he is a good man. Considering most of Colombia is Catholic, I think many would be just a little bit offended.

loid: who was here before the Native Americans?

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 11, 2008, 09:30:

UHMM I have noticed he look Colombia...like from Pasto or Cali

Mononoke28 says on Apr 11, 2008, 09:30:

DodgerDogs says on Thursday April 10th, 2008 19:26:
McCain was born in 1899 , so that makes him Colombian

This is the FUNNIEST thing I've read on PBH so far... Good one!!! XD

Diana

gringoloid says on Apr 11, 2008, 09:35:

lcacique...................No people that I know of lived in the Americas before the Indians arrived and kept on going all the way to the tip of south america. Most scientists think the first Indians came to the Americas from Asia at least 15,000 years ago.

billyb says on Apr 11, 2008, 09:38:

"UHMM I have noticed he look Colombia...like from Pasto or Cali"

El Pastuso for president!!!

Lcacique says on Apr 11, 2008, 09:51:

loid: we're in agreement.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

Frank Rizzo says on Apr 11, 2008, 10:03:

Hey GL...did you watch the 20 part series....here... i'm no expert....but some convincing evidence that the americas were settled from europe before the asia route..

http://www.first-americans.blogspot.com/

gringoloid says on Apr 11, 2008, 10:18:

I forgot what we're even talking about...................all i know is i'm croation living here in colombia.............:)

this thread has been hijacked about 4 times already.

jonas says on Apr 11, 2008, 11:14:

I like Thor Heyerdal´s theory, and if it is only for the adventure he lived.

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

Lcacique says on Apr 11, 2008, 11:57:

There is also the Peñon woman found near Mexico City that casts doubts on who the first inhabitants were...her skeletal remains (especially her skull) appear to have caucasin characteristics.

Not to mention the Olmec statues which appear to have African traits.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

Man Tequila says on Apr 11, 2008, 12:20:

Can McCain dance? Does he like arepas and Postobon?

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

gringoloid says on Apr 11, 2008, 12:52:

thor heyerdahl was my hero when i was 12 years old. he also married a babe from one of my favorite TV shows that was out before you guys were born.........."77 Sunset Strip".

i still haven't made it to Easter Island, my last travel goal in life but i intend to...............i've been trying to convince Man T, but as you can see above,he has other things on his mind, ...............and also how many hundreds of thousands of ameros he will be making with all of his spanish lessons when the mexican population arrives in canada.

gringoloid says on Apr 11, 2008, 13:00:

great site Frank..............i love examining the evidence.

a 'conspiracy realist' is only trying to determine the truth.

Man Tequila says on Apr 11, 2008, 16:17:

I'm only going to Easter Island if I can bring back an ear.

I've seen a few Mexicans, didn't have amarguros.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

Lcacique says on Apr 11, 2008, 17:30:

the pyramids, mayan art depicting elephants, and the twins discovered at El Azulul in Mexico in the picture below:





The twins look a little egyptian to me...

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

MaFe says on Apr 11, 2008, 21:07:

gringoloid says on Friday April 11th, 2008 9:35:

lcacique...................No people that I know of lived in the Americas before the Indians arrived and kept on going all the way to the tip of south america. Most scientists think the first Indians came to the Americas from Asia at least 15,000 years ago.

I agree with this theory!

Jorge he only has American citizenship...

"No comment" is a splendid expression. I am using it again and again." -Winston Churchill

billyb says on Apr 11, 2008, 21:12:

He may have secret Colombian citizenship??? His real name could be Juan Maquein??

MaFe says on Apr 11, 2008, 21:25:

Ja Juan Maquein? Ja ja

"No comment" is a splendid expression. I am using it again and again." -Winston Churchill

Lcacique says on Apr 12, 2008, 02:10:

Me too, MaFe...I just find some of the similarities interesting.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

podborski says on Apr 12, 2008, 08:31:

who cares who was where first?

It means nothing.

miamimike says on Apr 12, 2008, 08:49:

Anyone Know what you call those 6 Guys always standing around McCain when he is out in the Public's eye?


Answer--PALLBEARERS Thanks to J Leno

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Monpirri says on Apr 12, 2008, 08:54:

Abbot & Costello Tribute "Who's On First?"

I don't give a damn, I'm going to vote for the Colombian American President ;>)

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Juanes says on Apr 12, 2008, 09:51:

problem is he looks more red neck than latino....im looking forward to a few more military missions overseas when he gets in.

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/

Monpirri says on Apr 12, 2008, 09:59:

It's all right we have some good doctors in Colombia we can do some costemic surgery lol

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Monpirri says on Apr 12, 2008, 10:00:

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Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Monpirri says on Apr 12, 2008, 10:00:

Triple entry.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

billyb says on Apr 12, 2008, 18:46:

"It's all right we have some good doctors in Colombia we can do some costemic surgery lol"

jajaj, we'll have him looking like Brad Pitt in a jiffy.