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Because its not appropriate!!It has nothing to do with "fashion" or"blending in"Colombians,are bred with higher standards than Gringos.So when you dress in sandals,shorts,tshirts,they find it repulsive and disrespectful.And no matter how much money you "flash in their face"(now i know why they say Green Go)they will treat you accordingly.....like scum.So if you want to be treated with respect and not like scum,do yourself a favor and keep your "culture" where it belongs.....in Gringolandia.
By arthur brode on Jul 7, 2006, 06:13 in Friendly Talkzone.
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tomtom33 says on Jul 7, 2006, 06:37: If you are so shallow as to judge a book by its cover, I don't want your respect. I wear shorts. But my legs are purty.
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 07:46: You're fighting a losing battle, dude. My brother-in-law is a lawyer for the city of Medellin and he's out wearing shorts and sandals. Forget it. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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oldbongo says on Jul 7, 2006, 07:54: indeed... look at bermuda...
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jccg says on Jul 7, 2006, 08:07: Although it is stupid...... I mean this discussion. I want to say... You know that in London, NY, and even in Bogota, there are places where you can not enter if you do not match the dress code. i.e. tie (corbata) and black dress, etc... So this BullSHi*** of "we dress that way, and that's it" is ridiculous. This is just the true!! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Crazy4Cali says on Jul 7, 2006, 08:08: Sounds like a convert, to me It sounds like Sr. Brode has successfully assimilated into the estrata 6 lifestyle and now has no patience for anyone else, least of all the "lower" forms of life that make such existence possible.
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moondance says on Jul 7, 2006, 08:29: what one wears signifies respect a friend of mine complained that he was always stopped at security check points whenever he travelled internationally....my response was "look at how you fucken' dress......t-shirt, hair barely combed, unshavened"....
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moondance says on Jul 7, 2006, 08:42: curious another point.....initial thread here was "why should we change the way we dress?"....who is the WE.....someone visiting a country they are not a citizen of?
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Crazy4Cali says on Jul 7, 2006, 09:31: The issue is... ...having some gringo tell me how to dress when I come to Colombia. If I want to dress like a bum, get hassled by customs, and arrested for spitting on the sidewalk, that's my problem and I'll be dealt with according to the local customs by a local citizen. That I can respect, however ridiculous I might think the customs are.
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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 7, 2006, 12:25: I dress according to comfort and the weather........Bogota weather is perfect for shorts and sandals for me......i dress for comfort, and dont "dress to impress" anyone....with certain exceptions: such as weddings, church, formal events, court, etc. I dont need anyones approval for anything....And when tourists come to California i could give a shit what they wear,as its not my concern, and i have better things to concern myself with... "I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 12:36: But you should be able to dress just as you like, how could Colombians otherwise be able to maintain the idea of the stereotype of a Gringo? As a person who has no respect for the local customs and what is considered as common decency? Because they think themselves well above such things? "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on Jul 7, 2006, 13:01: Fashion is going to be the least of Colombia's worries. Wait until the gringos start coming in the masses and leaving behind their piss and vomit. Then Colombians will really hate them.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 13:09: We hope to keep that kind out of Colombia. We only want tourists that behave themselves and leave their dollars at our businesses. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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corazon en colombia says on Jul 7, 2006, 13:24: It's the attitude behind it, and not the actual dress that gets me, like "I am American, so I will do whatever I want and who cares about anybody else." If that's not your attitude, that's a least the message you are sending to some. I understand sandals and shorts at the beach on vacation, but Bogota is not that hot and definately not that laid back for that kind of attire. Is jeans and a decent t-shirt asking that much?! Colombia = paradiso 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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corazon en colombia says on Jul 7, 2006, 13:26: Plus you will look ridiculus next to the guy in the ski mask and scarf... Colombia = paradiso 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 13:35: LOL corazón, that was just my point.... "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:02: What the hell are you doing hanging out with people that are gonna judge you by the way you dress to begin with? Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:18: lauthra, just let me tell you the story of my second day in Cali this time. We were running errands, me and my friend, when she suddenly announced me that we were going to pray the rosary with some of her friends. I had no time to react. Suddenly I was in a room with a group of middle-aged and elderly people, all dressed up. I was wearing my khaki shorts and sport sandals. Everybody had this little case from where they picked up their rosary and they started off with a song. (I'm not even catholic!) Then they proceded with the painful mysteries....and more hymns. I was sitting there, very uncomfortable, trying to focus on a hummingbird feeding off a mead container hanging in the patio. More painful mysteries.....and more songs. I've never felt more out of place. In my khaki shorts. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:49: Wow, first time I ever heard of a woman using a headache as an excuse to get out of praying. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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corazon en colombia says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:50: Didn't you know Women use headaches as excuses to get out of lots of things... Colombia = paradiso 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:56: Damm, they're sly. I think they're just trying to fool us into thinking that they actually have headaches. I thought it was a code word. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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corazon en colombia says on Jul 7, 2006, 14:57: Or maybe they really do have headaches...you never know. Colombia = paradiso 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:07: I only get a headache when I'm supposed to go pray the rosary. I told my friend that I'm bored to death by painful mysteries, but please, just tell them I've got a headache. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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corazon en colombia says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:14: Mysteries? Is this a catholic thing? What are mysteries? Colombia = paradiso 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:25: I s'ppose it's a Catholic thing...misterios dolorosos. It sounded very dismal and depressing...but I wouldn't know. Kat? Colombiche? "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:31: they are the BIBLICAL ROSARY they are from the BIBLICAL ROSARY THE PAINFUL MYSTERIES engage brain before opening mouth 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:33: Do you still go to church, Kat? It's a real pleasure to accompany my lovely wife to Mass every Sunday. A pleasure for the rest of the male congregation as well since she insists on wearing short skirts and sitting in one of the first three rows. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:34: no that much, no since i came to ENGLAND engage brain before opening mouth 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:36: That's too bad. They have a Mass in Spanish on the first and third Sundays and the priest is a monsignor from Medellin named Leo Martinez. He is a marvelous man. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:43: I didn't like in here i was pressure into joing this little catholic community which I didn't wanted to joing, in Colombia if we go to church nobody cares if you go back or not, but here they try to make it as a cult. and my kids? well last time I took them was one chrismas time, the guy that was sitting in front of us started to fart like a horse, I looked at my daughter trying to said, don't you dare to laughed, the guy could not handle anymore and left but not with out leaving a trait of fart behind, my daughter and a friend couldn't handle it anymore and burst laughing, and they contagious me too. neverless they didn't wanted to go back to church. engage brain before opening mouth 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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bobbyb says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:45: Fair is fair I'll stop wearing shorts and sandles in Colombia if the Colombianas stop wearing those long pointy ass shoes when they come here. All's ya' gotta' do is put a little upward curve on them with a little bell and Santa will hire them in a minute. God help us if the gringas start wearing them here, we'll all end up with A-holes as big as the burritos Elmo screws
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 15:46: And while we were in the middle of the misterios dolorosos everybody's cell phones kept ringing and this one dude (there was only one man there) started scolding everybody for having their phones on...I was concentrating hard on the hummingbird. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jul 7, 2006, 16:03: It sounds as though you live in an area where there are very few Catholics. Catholics are the majority here and you can go or not go as you wish - the Church is going to be full whether you are there or not. I love the songs at the Spanish Mass. Father Martinez always makes those with birthdays or anniversaries come up to the front of the church at the end of the Mass and he blesses them. Then everyone sings "Las Mananitas" and applauds. Trust the Colombians to make a little party out of it. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Jul 7, 2006, 16:11: You want to hear dismal ? It's 7 pm and I'm still stuck at the office. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 16:16: ok, colombiche, now it makes some sense. I was just hearing the same things repeated over and over again. I thought it was just by chance. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Colombiche says on Jul 7, 2006, 16:17: Ja ja ja Desi Wait until your friend invites you to pray "Los Mil Jesuses"... ha ha, you have to recite Jesus name one thousand times, of course there will be other prayers in between..... like "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus....... x100" and then a Glory be or something. No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2006, 16:29: A Terodactyl??? Ohmygoshhh LOL colombiche you've just made me laugh so hard that I was worried neighbors would come and ring at the door to find out if I've gone mad..... "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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hunjb224 says on Jul 7, 2006, 22:52: It is true When I am working in LA I wear jeans and rarely shave, when I am in Bogota on business i wear a suit and always am clean shaven. As much as the latter pains me as an outdoor enthusiast, i do it out of respect for the culture. The same applies in the social setting, never would i wear flip-flops or shorts to even a casual sit down dinner in colombia. I think we "gringos" ofter forget that cultural respect goes both ways.
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Rubiazo says on Jul 8, 2006, 07:03: To repost I don't care where I am in the world, I'm going to dress the fucking way I want to to be COMFORTABLE. Unless somebody is PAYING me to dress a certain way, then it is MY CHOICE how to dress and nobody else's.
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morphus says on Jul 8, 2006, 07:53: During the day, nobody is going to shoot you in Colombia if you are wearing shorts and sandals. But at night, just like anywhere else, people are expected to wear pants and a nice shirt. Even in Miami, Myrtle Beach and other places in the U.S. most people dress up at night when they go out. A lot of places here in New York don't even allow jeans so forget about shorts. So much for gringolandia where everybody wears shorts and sandals 24 hours a day.
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moondance says on Jul 8, 2006, 08:10: de nuevo friend of mine went to a nightclub in Cienfuegos, Cuba (on my recommendation) last week and was denied entry..why? had button up shirt and pants.....problem was he was wearing sandals....my bad...I should of told him.....he would of had a great time.......4 women for every guy and they are hot...on of my favourite haunts.....just goes to show......be attentive of local customs...my boy would of had the pick of the litter...nada zapatos...nada pussy
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morphus says on Jul 8, 2006, 09:19: Which club in Cienfuegos, Benny Moore? I never liked that place but your friend should have been able to get some bollo there. I used to like La Caribeña outdoor nightclub. I used to wear shorts there all the time and never had a problem other than being swarmed by too many girls.
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moondance says on Jul 8, 2006, 10:38: club morphus the eternal perro...club was a Hotel Jagua a la Malecon
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el norteño says on Jul 8, 2006, 16:32: shorts I think a distinction should be made between wearing shorts and looking like a bum. During the day in Medellin, I've worn khaki shorts and a golf shirt. It just makes sense to me to be so attired in warm temperatures. And no, I'm not trying to assert American imperialism.
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morphus says on Jul 8, 2006, 17:29: Moondance, i was more of a El Rapido and De Prisa type of guy. Check out my wheels in Cuba. It was like having a Rolls Royce..ha ha
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morphus says on Jul 8, 2006, 17:42: I used to wear shorts. I don't look too bummy here, do I?
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morphus says on Jul 8, 2006, 17:44: These are my favorite pair of underwear. I'll be wearing these in Colombia. They're great in the hot weather...ha ha
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Rubiazo says on Jul 8, 2006, 20:53: HAHHAAHAH good one Morphus.
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Rubiazo says on Jul 8, 2006, 20:53: Oh And hot weather means a sunny day in Bogota when it gets all the way up to 68 too!
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bro says on Jul 9, 2006, 11:30: I agree with your dress code My wife is Colombian, and we live in the US, she will not change her dress code and Iam very proud of her for that. Gringo's almost make me vomit how they dress, these knee lenght shorts look like they wear skirts, shoes look like they've never been washed and Iam sure they haven't,, wear tank tops, ( I believe the name came because most look like tanks), with thier hairy arms pits, hairy bodys reeking of sweat,gum smacking, they really give me the empprestion they have no self respect are unhappy within themselves and this is a way to protest, they are really bad in resturants, no manors what so ever, loud, mouth smacking, reminds me of pigs on a farm. The fact that they don't show respect when in a host country only reflects on themselves, but are to dumb to see it.
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Rubiazo says on Jul 9, 2006, 21:58: You are mixing planes though Personal hygiene is super important, and anybody who breaks that is rightfully shunned in almost any country. Lack of table manners is another one, although there are some cultural differences there, especially as to what is considered a finger food and what isn't. None of these things have anything to do with having to wear comfortable clothing. It doesn't hurt your own personal comfort level to take a damn shower before you leave your place, or to wear deodorant or use a fork properly!
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JaiLyn2006 says on Jul 11, 2006, 05:27: Wow, I honestly cannot believe that you will get judged on how you are dressed when you are a TOURIST in a country. If you were going there to live, or it was the LAW that you must wear pants and shoes than sure I can see the pressure for assimilation (like how it's written law in middle eastern countries that ALL women should be covered from head to toe). However we're talking about taking a vacation somewhere for fun and relaxation, and it's just pettiness to point and laugh at people wearing shorts and sandals. "Hur, hur....dats so funny."
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JMOON87 says on Jul 11, 2006, 08:02: No problems I have been all over Colombia in shorts and sandals and never felt as it was a problem -other than Bogota at Christmas got a few looks while it was cold and i had shorts and sandals while others were bundled up and had gloves on while it was only 55-60 degrees....Sorry but Cali and Cartagena are hot and unless it something formal or a work dress code , i have no desire to dress up so i can be soaking wet with sweat 10 minutes later .
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adrimm says on Jul 11, 2006, 21:13: Sticking out While I take greater care with what I wear in Colombia than at home, I usually do it in the interest of keeping a lower profile and to some measure respect for my hosts (usually elderly relatives). I do it becuase I find I get more out my experiences that way.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 16, 2006, 05:31: guess which one of these people is a gringo? "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 16, 2006, 06:01: The lady who spilled a bottle of Clorox on her dress?
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 16, 2006, 12:37: Very funny tinto! "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Jul 18, 2006, 01:44: Oh dear, typical!! hahaha, good video Morphus...Im laughing hahaha. Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you have all said. When im in London or the states I really dont bother with getting groomed and wearing make up, and I never feel out of place...actually those who make a really huge effort in looking like a barbie doll look a little funny maybe even ridiculous...In bogota however, I do tend to feel more self concious, and make a greater effort to look decent...flip flops and shorts are definite no no's...I guess its something you sort of assimilate after a while. Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Jul 18, 2006, 01:46: Oh dear, typical!! hahaha, good video Morphus...Im laughing hahaha. Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you have all said. When im in London or the states I really dont bother with getting groomed and wearing make up, and I never feel out of place...actually those who make a really huge effort in looking like a barbie doll look a little funny maybe even ridiculous...In bogota however, I do tend to feel more self concious, and make a greater effort to look decent...flip flops and shorts are definite no no's...I guess its something you sort of assimilate after a while. Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 18, 2006, 01:53: Cerelkiller but in Cartagena you can wear shorts and flip flops and in other hot tourist cities including villavo, even the colombian tourist do it, if you mean just Bogota then I agree. engage brain before opening mouth 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Jul 18, 2006, 03:18: Oh totally, I only speak for Bogota... Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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