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[The content of the original post has been deleted and the thread has been locked. The original post contained a number of anti-woman statements and was not remotely related to Colombia. -Moderators]
By s_cambria on Feb 24, 2005, 23:42 in Friendly Talkzone.
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N2Aquatix says on Feb 25, 2005, 02:08: Crap Wow!!! That's a really dark, cynical viewpoint. Well, I hate to have to clue you dude, but I know lots of happy couples with happy kids. Having a good life means so much more when you have someone to share it with. It gives it a meaning and a purpose that single people will never understand. Oh, and one more thing.....you get out of life what you put into it, so if these guys that you speak of got CRAP out of their relationships then they probably put CRAP into them. ;-)
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kernow62 says on Feb 25, 2005, 04:13: And what does this have to do with Colombia?
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kat1 (Moderator) says on Feb 25, 2005, 04:16: WOW this guy got it bad. something must happened to him to talk so negative. engage brain before opening mouth 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Albatross says on Feb 25, 2005, 04:26: ! Man, I hope you don't own a gun... “Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lowell says on Feb 25, 2005, 04:51: One of the lucky ones I must be one of the lucky ones. Also, I think that In Colombia there are more happy married couples/families. I'm a 2 time loser with marriage in the States. I'm giving it one more try. This time, my gut/heart tells me theres a chance. Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 25, 2005, 06:15: With that attitude... With that attitude, I think it's better that you never marry. In fact, I think it's better that you never even date. In fact, there are lots of nice hollow trees out there in the forest just waiting for a bitter hermit to move in.
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Miguel says on Feb 25, 2005, 06:58: This thread I alerted the "authorities" here about it perhaps being troll-generated. Since it still "lives", all I want to say is:
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BlondeJamesBond says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:00: Miguel Correct These sort of 'issues' need to be dealt with on a psychologists couch - not in a colombia forum
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Miguel says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:12: GIB I enjoyed your replies
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utopiacowboy says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:16: What nonsense. I just turned 50 and my wife is 44. I have 4 children from my first marriage and she has 3 from her first marriage. We are crazy about one another and we have a great big combined family that speaks English and Spanish. Life is fun - you should try it sometime. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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BlondeJamesBond says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:17: *the censor police have arrived* I see myself as more of a censor secret agent.
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Pirovito says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:18: Humble Opinion I totally agree with s_crambia. dont do it. dont do it, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. you are gonna regret it at some point, believe me!!
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Pirovito says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:35: Content of post deleted [The content of this post has been deleted. Several weeks ago someone posted the same excepts from the 'No Marriage' website. They don't have anything to do with Colombia and some readers will find them very offensive to women. -Moderators]
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utopiacowboy says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:37: The juice isn't worth the squeeze? Maybe you haven't squeezed the right fruit? It is well worth it - it's heaven on earth. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Pirovito says on Feb 25, 2005, 07:42: Utopiacowboy Could be that or could be the squeezer, hummm God knows! but I still looking for the right fruit (juicy) hopefully I will find it and believe in marriage again. who knows!
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Pirovito says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:00: Miguel Yo en cambio prefiero unos melones bien jugosos. ud me entiende parce. LOL
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poco says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:18: Colombia relationships The poster appears to use “cut and paste� from another forum. "Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cintiamay says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:30: Definitely a troll but.. This was def. a bitch session w/ no real relevance to Colombia.
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miamimike says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:32: How many responders are 55+ ? I also fail to understand why this Gent posted here as it fails the Colombian connection validity test. Being in the Age bracket he describes and not married I see a few of his points.And Agree with them. Not all by any means. One thing he omitted was the fact that not all men(or women for that matter) are meant to be married. Its not in the grand scheme of things for everyone, but its nothing to be sad about if you are secure in knowing who you are. Many great scientist were single and had they been married, they may not have had the time and energy to persevere on their projects. There is something to be said for personal freedom. I place a high value on it and would not surrender it lightly. What is missing from the equation is "Why women should not marry" Equally as valid. I wonder what their thouhgts are on this. Not all couples should have children-I truly believe this as evidenced by our high rate of juvenile delinquency here in the US--many many parents are failing their children. Not everyone can truly be a mama or papa, in the truest sense of the word. Being in the age bracket he mentions, I see what he is saying about freedom.Priceless. I do agree with all women are treacherous, scheming,ect.Even here in the US. A thought provocing post at the least. "Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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miamimike says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:37: Should read I do "Not" agree that all women are treacherous, scheming,ect. "Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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miamimike says on Feb 25, 2005, 08:50: Be Happy with youself "it's easy to get depressed about not being married when we live in a society that constantly feeds us the image of the happy couple. It's one big lie. The happiest person alive is someone who isn't a prisoner dependent on another human being... We only have 80 or so years on this rock to achieve true freedom"--If you are not happy with yourself going into the marriage its not going to change afterwards,probably only gets worse.Have to deal with this first, then get married, IMHO. "Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cintiamay says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:06: Sounds good but doesn't happen like that... my stepmother cried poverty, even though both worked and she made similar income. My dad had a teacher's pension. She "let" him keep it and put it against his half of the house, so she could take it all! Miamimike, what you say sounds so logical, too bad law is anything but... and I'm from NJ not CA...
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:27: I agree, totally There are men that should not marry, or even be in a relationship with a woman. They just don't have what it takes to share their lives with another human being. Maybe they shouldn't even have pets...much less children. There are women like that, too, of course. There are couples who should not be allowed to breed because their own needs are so great that they don't have anything left over to give to anybody else. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:41: Nothing worst than a depressed troll.
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BlondeJamesBond says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:45: Whoa Calipro I need to clarify this again
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BlondeJamesBond says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:56: And as for my earlier comment *"These sort of 'issues' need to be dealt with on a psychologists couch - not in a colombia forum"*
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dwmte says on Feb 25, 2005, 09:57: i don't know of the chap is 5 or 55... but a whole lot of what he says is true. a whole lot.
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kernow62 says on Feb 25, 2005, 10:01: dwmte maybe it is the way the dice rolls or perhaps it is the value you and your wife (wives) place upon your marriage. Marrying and divorcing that many times is not the way I was raised. Perhaps your culture and upbringing does not place as much importance on marriage.
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ARMacleod says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:34: This may seem to be simplistic, but? You have to start with some ground rules, how about these for a start. The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ARMacleod says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:35: Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy. The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ShazCas says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:41: You won't blacken my idea of true love It occurred to me when reading about these miserable marriages that of course we are getting a man's point of view on them, and that the women in these marriages must be utterly miserable as well. No sex, years of boredom, why would you nag someone unless you can't stand them or the way they behave? And they are the ones who have to bear the children, I just don't understand why they do it with someone they don't really want to have sex with and feel the need to nag all the time. I'm very happy in my marriage, and I hope my husband will always be happy with me too, and I think that if it ever got miserable, then divorce would be for the best. But then we do have that ass-wiping kind of love (the least romantic way I've ever described it!!!) and have been together for 7 years and aren't itching yet!
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Raleigh1590 says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:45: Ahem From nomarriage.com via above:
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:48: I'd like to contradict number 1 and 2 There's a popular saying here in Sweden about "children that are alike each other play together best" (sounds much better in Swedish: "lika barn leka best"). I see a lot of happy couples around that are alike both physically and in temperament. The rest of what you say is just common sense. Any kind of commitment between two human beings is a compromise that requires a lot of self-sacrifice, patience and a genuine interest in each other's well-being. Not everybody is cut out to have a commitment that places somebody else's needs before your own. Empathy, love, caring and respect are all necessary components in every relationship and if your not prepared or capable of giving all this to somebody else then I agree, you shouldn't marry and even less have any children because you'd only cause unnecessary suffering in other people's lives. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ShazCas says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:50: Another thing has just occurred to me... If American women have such an anti-male bias, why don't they ever start threads here about American men being fat, or whatever, etc? I've never been to the US but all I see on this site is anti-female bias. So what does that teach me? Anyway, I know that I'm probably wasting my breath (finger energy?) so, back to Colombia...
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dwmte says on Feb 25, 2005, 11:58: kernow... thanks for the observations and input. under 'logical' observations what you say would probably be true. however, i come from a strain of typical mid-american farmers that married and died together, some of which had 15 children.
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Albatross says on Feb 25, 2005, 12:21: Shaz... American Women can hardly help having an anti-men , pro-women bias because over the past few decades it has permeated our entire culture... there are exceptions, certain religious or ethnic groups may be less likely to have this bias, and of course there are individual exceptions... so some guys do get lucky. “Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte says on Feb 25, 2005, 13:00: kernow, et al... sorry about that break. my youngest daughter hurt her neck yesterday and spent the whole morning in the clinic and is no recuperating in her bed. had to do the lunch and tuck in thing.
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dwmte says on Feb 25, 2005, 13:08: continued i noticed as i went through life, most folks think love is a noun. that's absolutely untrue. it's a verb. it's work. hard work, cause you do it even in those moments/days that you don't want to, you don't feel like it. love makes those sacrafices, with a smile.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 25, 2005, 13:25: thank you douglas for your insights about marriage and raising up the children. Basically we share the same views and there's little even I could find objectionable in your posts. As I have told previously, I work with children and their welfare is close to my heart. It's fairly common here for fathers to take a paternity leave from work to care for young children, many men find it very enjoyable and satisfying to stay home a few months when babies are small to take care of them while mothers go back to work. It's customary for new parents to split their time staying home and working, taking turns for caring the babies. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ARMacleod says on Feb 25, 2005, 13:27: Know something dwmte? I am not sure if I am reading this correctly, but if I am, you sound like the kind of fellow that I wish my father was, and I think I am older than you are, (my first daughter is 45) (shheeech!) The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte says on Feb 25, 2005, 13:46: hell, king james, i think my reward is here and now. i have a wonderful paisa that gives me no rest, rules the roost and reminds everyone, adults and children alike, who runs the household. is it great? hell no! it's bloody hard work.
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Miguel says on Feb 25, 2005, 14:20: Love is a verb? Better not tell that to Michel Thomas or the gringos here that study Spanish with his instructions.
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ARMacleod says on Feb 25, 2005, 14:27: Dwmte. 62? I got fillings in my teeth older than that my boy. The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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