Why do people talk poorly about each other?

Miguel says on Nov 6, 2009, 19:25:

Bad information.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 6, 2009, 19:47:

Miguel says on Nov 6, 2009, 19:52:

Los bancos y "LA VOZ DE LA COSTA"

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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Miguel says on Nov 6, 2009, 20:48:

Bad English from Euros..."People who can actually wrote on PBH".

Brutal.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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MaBarker says on Nov 6, 2009, 21:22:

ddluzdelsol says, 'what's up"
_______________

four or five sick assholes that are causing all the trouble.

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clyde says on Nov 6, 2009, 22:32:

Here's what I found: There are three general motives behind people talking bad about another person. 1. They're talking with someone to solve a problem they're having with the individual, but lack the skill to do it in a kind way. 2. They want to discredit the other person, or cause harm to the other person. Their motive is to hurt, or they feel they must defend themselves from hurt, so they hurt first. 3. They want to be accepted, so they find common humor, evil, etc. to talk about to make themselves feel better.

The first group: They talk about the problem, may go into detail, may exagerate a little, but their motive is mainly to get an idea of how to solve the problem, and not to hurt the other person. They may talk innapropriately, or in a way that may leave a negative light on the person they're talking about, but its not hateful.

The second group: People who talk bad about another person to cause harm: They seem to feel like you have some major impact in their life, and they are scared of you. For example, a friend who feels like her life is determined by how much boys like her will often bad mouth another girl who the boys like more than her - or that she thinks they like more than her. She does this because she feels like she must manipulate the people around her to stay safe. If she took responsibility for her own actions, and her own ability to change, to act, she wouldn't feel so threatened by other people. So usually, people who talk maliciously are really very terrified people. They feel they must manipulate the people around them to be safe. They don't start by changing their own actions and choosing how they feel, they let life around them tell them who they are. Its a very threatened place to live.

Third group:

They people are a combination of the two catagories above. They talk about others because they have nothing better to do. They just talk without considering the people or friendships that will be damaged, its just entertainment.

I hope this helps. Bottom line, I found that the more someone is trying to harm and manipulate, usually the more sensitive and insecure that person is on the inside, so much so that they feel the need to control everyone around them to keep their lives stable.

When I find myself talking about someone, I ask myself - if this person were listening to me talk, would I feel honest and respectful of that person, even if what I'm saying is negative? That's my check.

Good luck.

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Juepaje says on Nov 7, 2009, 03:14:

Mostly, it is about the messenger and not the message. Since we use words, it is easy to find oneself oposed to another because of the way that they express themselves. It may be because this person has different political beliefs or they may be ignorant of how to effectively make their point. There is a lot of disrespect here for people that have opinions. I am very careful about what I write because I know how it feels to be berated on this site. Somethings you just have to bite your tongue and let them go without commenting. If we had better manners and behaved with respect for all opinions, there would be a lot less of this. I disagree with most people on this site but I don't remember ever personally attacking anyone. I may have disagreed with their opinion but I also have a right to an opinion if I express it honestly and without malice. Peace bretheren.

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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dwmte7 says on Nov 7, 2009, 04:15:

if one listens closely to those who back bite, cause murmers and generally speak ill of others, one thing you'll note is that they say nothing about their own faults, shortcomings and regretable actions and words.

patriarch

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 7, 2009, 04:49:

Clyde, that was a pretty good comment.
On PBH I think most people who talk poorly about each other are in the group three.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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babygirl says on Nov 7, 2009, 04:49:

Attack the message, not the messenger. There are a couple people on here that annoy the hell out of me. I just try to ignore their comments, because it's not worth it half the time to debate back and I truly feel like they persist because they're trying to bait me in to taking it personal. Maybe that's paranoia, but it's what my instincts tell me. Debating a point on this forum sometimes is like running in circles and then when I have engaged in a debate, I get personally attacked. It's so ridiculous and something that I'd expect on my teenager's Facebook wall when she's fighting with someone. I hate the racism. I don't think it's necessary. Why be mean about people's families? Ya these guys can be jerks and just seem to exist here on PBH to attempt to prove other people wrong ALL the freakin' time. There's too much bad blood that has passed over the past months, just ignore each other, keep the ridiculous PM's to a minimum, and ditch the slander.

It's not always about right and wrong.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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davidyamiga says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:04:

I have always thought that if you have nothing good to say, don't say it. If you have to say something that may be considered negative by someone else, say it nicely. People ask a question and want to know both sides of the story, so a negative comment may be seen as a positive. Everyone comes to this forum to be helped, so lets keep it that way.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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babygirl says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:07:

davidyamiga... totally agree about the negative comment possibly being seen as a positive. I have however seen some REALLY bad advice given on here and think it's justified that someone step in and disagree when another person's safety or well being could be in jeopardy.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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scumbuster says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:13:

Well said BG... I have found if i make a comment that someone is trying to discredit its better to ignore it. I made the original comment and everyone saw it. They agree or disagree with it. No need to argue about it. I throw it out there and everyone can think what they want. There are probably a half dozen people on here that seem to be obnoxious or just ass holes but its a total waste of time to try to criticize them every time they post as they seem to want to do with others. I have a built in ignore button. Or so my wife says when she wants to talk and there is a hockey game on... jajajaja

Tomas Jefferson “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

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babygirl says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:20:

hehe scumbuster... that's what we call selective hearing. Men and kids have it down to a fine art, or as my sister calls it "man ears" hahaha. = ;p I'll be curious to see if and how fast this thread goes south or if it stays constructive. I have a feeling there are a ton of people on here that keep their mouth shut for fear of being attacked.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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davidyamiga says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:28:

The thing is, do not take what is said here as an attack. Whoever attacks does not know the whole story. And by all means, use "selective hearing" and reading. I read a lot of posts and burst out laughing!

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 7, 2009, 05:41:

I think it is that they can do it without consequences and so why not? Last night a guy did that in person and well he ended up not so good. I think people like that which follow people around and try to belittle them are suffering from something and I do beleive some of there problem is the sandbox syndrome and who cares what more?

But the root of it is like I said, they do it because they can. So you have a few that are free to do it and then you have some and I consider myself in this camp who respond to it. Some who do not. But I know none of these people doing it would do it in person to anyone from here and well that chicken chit just bugs me.

I just wish people could stick to the topics and not bring a bunch of gossip and miss informed personal stuff to this board.

Yesterday mak was asking me about my personal infomation, I am a private person and so I do not give it. Then another member pipes in and writes something about me personal. Not true but anyway there is was. Now that guy should be deleted from the board.

Anyway if your looking for the why take a look in the mirror. They do it because they can. No more to it.

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flynn flanagan says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:13:

Person A uses forums to try and project him/herself to be something that in reality he/she is not. When person B makes a comment that tarnishes Person A's imaginary projection, Person A goes to damage control mode, and attacks. Using from belittling comments to verbal threats of physical action.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:19:

Who makes fun of who on here? I dont but some people deserve a little teasing.. lol jajajajajjajj

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:19:

Which site is that greg? I bet I am famous.

Oh flynnn and sometimes they are calling you a liar, spreading rumors and lies about you but I am sure you just take that in stride....

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:24:

p.s. DavidyAmiga, Whats up with the new avatar? What happened to my pudgy little central american fellow we have all come to love?? jajajajaj lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:28:

He is copying me....

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webmanco says on Nov 7, 2009, 09:56:

People talking bad about other people.

Lack of security
Lack of information
Lack of comon sense
Misinformation
They got a big mouth and are fast runners.
Lots of time


What is worse are the groups attacking a single poster, or established members ganging against single or small groups

People talk bad about other persons to the point of libel and slander.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 7, 2009, 10:02:

Who teases you GregYown? I havent seen it?

*edited* Maybe some kind people on here trying to give you some friendly guidance here and there.

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2009, 10:48:

ddluzdelsol says on Nov 7, 2009, 12:32:

yes... I see, kat...
What happened to the Golden Rule... "Treat others the way you would want to be treated."

Christmas and New Years in Ibague!!

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 7, 2009, 12:40:

The real rule is "Do unto others before they can do it to you."

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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webmanco says on Nov 7, 2009, 13:14:

So flagg other´s before they do you, jaja

A papaya dada papaya ...................

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 7, 2009, 13:19:

I despise that papaya rule, it's a product of a petty criminal mentality and one of the reasons why Colombians are often stigmatized internationally.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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dwmte7 says on Nov 7, 2009, 14:54:

murmerers, back stabbers, etc. are weak, miserable people...insecure and full of their own faults. what do you expect from them. they contribute nothing and makeup for that weakness (they think) by attacking others.

patriarch

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2009, 15:11:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 7, 2009, 15:16:

The thing is that many people still consider internet as an anonymous space where normal rules of courtesy do not apply. Yet behind every keyboard there's a living human being with a face and a name and a history (not sure about UC though) and people get hurt and irritated and offended just the same. I have a rule of thumb for my own behaviour on the forums: I try not to say anything to anybody that I could not say in RL, face to face, person to person.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2009, 15:18:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2009, 15:32:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 7, 2009, 15:39:

clyde says on Nov 7, 2009, 16:26:

For me PBH is a great place to look at beautiful women like yourself. I love that blouse.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 7, 2009, 16:54:

" but in real life they would be punched in the face by their statements!"

Nice Greg! I see you condone violence! Would you choke them out with your SPEEDO or send your wife to do the dirty work? jajajajaajajjajajja lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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babygirl says on Nov 7, 2009, 16:56:

Yes why indeed do people think they can attack others and get away with it? That's a fantastic question.

It's kind of funny that some of the instigators don't see themselves as instigators.

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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christobeldawg says on Nov 7, 2009, 21:45:

the ego of most everyone acts out of a desire to feel some sense of control in their lives, to feel more secure within themselves, or for some form of self approval.

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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christobeldawg says on Nov 7, 2009, 21:46:

and I have an advanced degree in Behavioral Science, so don't mess with me on this one.

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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El Expatriado says on Nov 8, 2009, 02:03:

Sometimes it's easier to give your true opinion on the internet. Cuz when I meet a Louisiana Red Neck, or a left wing radical Greenpeace type in real life, and he or her says some crazy thing about so and so, I won't say to much against his / her ideas, cuz he is otherwise a real nice guy /gal, has lots of posiive attributes, plus I have to work with or lnterrelate with them.

But when the same type of guy / gal says something some would consider ignorant on the internet, it's so much easieer to voice your opinion, cuz you don't have to deal with that person in real life.

Nothig to do with self esteem. Just has to do with voicing your opinion when someone is over opinionated and mis-informed (or brainwashed) on a subject in which i have lots of expereince.

Plus, a peson can't punch your lights outor shoot you through the internet.

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El Expatriado says on Nov 8, 2009, 02:07:

Actually, I hink ya'll take this Wayyy too seriously. It's ony the dumb internet, you know.

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El Expatriado says on Nov 8, 2009, 02:10:

For all you guys know, the guys back-biting, fighting with each other, insulting eaach other may be the same guy, with two "hand puppets".

Like I said You all take it Wayyy too seriously.

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davidslc46 says on Nov 8, 2009, 02:56:

People want to be acknowledged. The more undervalued they feel at the core the more aberrant their actions and words. The internet allows anyone the opportunity to pretend to be something they are not. Most of us want to be accepted and therefore try to fit in. The really sad case is the one who spouts off with little regard to whether their comments move people towards them or away from them. I suspect like an unstable dog their insecurity is what motivates them but regardless they cannot be trusted.

What a bunch of psychobabble!

They are phucked up if you hadn`t noticed!

David

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 8, 2009, 03:07:

I resemble that remark David.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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El Expatriado says on Nov 8, 2009, 03:13:

Actually, I am not here for security, just to leave boredom. Stuck on an offshore rig insub-arcti Russian waters.

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davidslc46 says on Nov 8, 2009, 03:21:

Robert Jorge says on Nov 8, 2009, 03:07 (today): flag

I resemble that remark David.


I was thinking about you when I wrote it!

David

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onthemoon says on Nov 8, 2009, 06:47:

People here fight with the computer everyday, i just imagine some of them hitting the poor PC just because they dont agree with someone with no face. =)) life s crazy sometimes.And, if they are this way behind the computer, dont even want to imagine how they are in real life. You show what you are when writing or talking, there are many polite ways to say things, even if u disagree. Anyways, when you talk bad about others i think is because you are not able to accept that everybody has positive things, if you do that it means others can be better than you, For some people that s a reality hard to accept then they start the brutal attack...like sharks...jeje. like...i am this that i did this that bla bla bla you are this and that .... when at the end, your actions speak louder than what you say. =))

Love Happens...

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 8, 2009, 07:09:

Here is a tip. Don't believe everything you see on the internet, especially in the forums like this. My friends and I impersonate people and some of the biggest battles are actually taking place between friends or even the same person with multiple handles. I like to impersonate a 15 year old girl on the web and bring out all the closet pedophiles. What is really hilarious are the people taking the whole thing seriously.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 08:41:

geoff71 says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:17:

people talk poorly about one another cuz they hate themselves.. so if u hate yourself your going to hate others

one day at a time

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webmanco says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:24:

UC
I like to impersonate a 15 year old girl on the web and bring out all the closet pedophiles.


You are doing a scientific research as well? The last PBH Scientific researcher got stuck in the fishbowl.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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johnny2009 says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:27:

Webmanco your hair looks pretty today

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webmanco says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:30:

What hair?

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:44:

geoff is right justo.................what reasoning would a man/woman have to speak ill of someone--especially behind their backs or in cyber space--if they were at ease with themselves internally. it is the internal life which creates the image of the world we live in. if we're clean--at peace--internally, the world is clean about us......even with all it's misgivings and horrors. but those who conceal what they are ashamed of or fear internally, their external world is hellish as are those who inhabit it.

it's by taking the log out of our own eye, we are able to address the splinter in the eyes of others. our whole life/world changes once we address and come to terms with our inner selves.

patriarch

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:45:

what reasoning would a man/woman have to speak ill of someone--especially behind their backs or in cyber space--if they were at ease with themselves internally. it is the internal life which creates the image of the world we live in. if we're clean--at peace--internally, the world is clean about us......even with all it's misgivings and horrors. but those who conceal what they are ashamed of or fear internally, their external world is hellish as are those who inhabit it.

it's by taking the log out of our own eye, we are able to address the splinter in the eyes of others. our whole life/world changes once we address and come to terms with our inner selves.

Weird shit. Ever thought about being a Walmart Greeter, Doug? =)

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:47:

tried, miguel, but i was too old and there was no place to park my walker....................

patriarch

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:56:

jajajajja.....

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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davidslc46 says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:11:

dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 09:47 (today): flag

tried, miguel, but i was too old and there was no place to park my walker....................

patriarch

Oh thats right, you are so old and get off on just trying to relive those good old Colombia days. Nobody gives a sh*t whether you were the only gringo with balls enough to live in Barbosa way back when. Better to be a Colombian queen in the here and now.

Sorry I had to edit my own post as it was beginning to look like I was the subject of this thread, LOL!

David

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:12:

Duglas, you are a wise man.

I don't see the usual haters posting here... BTW where is our dear bitch?....

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:13:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:18:

Well she/it is always ready to start insulting, and attacking everyone, even PETER!!!, I would like to know, what makes this animal bark at everyone with no motive at all?.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:20:

david.....spell all that out.

patriarch

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davidslc46 says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:23:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:18 (today): flag

Well she/it is always ready to start insulting, and attacking everyone, even PETER!!!, I would like to know, what makes this animal bark at everyone with no motive at all?.

Thats what unstable people do! It is only natural!

David

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:44:

People often talk poorly about others because they attack the messenger rather than the message, as already mentioned by babygirl, juepaje, others. I think people do this because they fail to separate the two -- without explicitly thinking about it, many people take the approach that "I AM my thoughts ideas and opinions" as opposed to "I am a PERSON who has thoughts ideas and opinions". So when somebody attacks a strongly held opinion, some of us feel attacked personally, and then launch our own counter-attack, but on the other person rather than on what they said. So why do some of us find it so difficult to separate the message from the messenger??

Whatever the reason, it only takes an extra second or two to look at what you wrote and see if you are talking about the person or the issue. If you see that you are talking about the person, hit the backspace key. ---- Hint: look for the words "you are" (or "you asshole", etc, etc) ----.

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:54:

By the way Justo, you may think someone is an asshole... and feel that it "needs saying" -- but you are not the arbiter of that. You have your views on what behavior is inappropriate, the other person has theirs -- there is no absolute, it is opinion. You should be able to express your views of why you are opposed to what the other person says or does without resorting to name calling. AND you should be able to express your views here without someone else calling you names like "officious bitch" or "ass wipe". The rules against personal attacks are meant to keep discussions civil and on point, and make the forum a hospitable place to visit.

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 8, 2009, 11:51:

When I referee soccer games, I tell the players before we start that I do not tolerate smack talk towards your opponent. That is what leads to fights. First time they get a warning, second time yellow, third time they're gone. When the players know that I mean business they are less likely to take justice into their own hands.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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geoff71 says on Nov 8, 2009, 12:31:

makes all the sense in the world.. and its actually 2 things.. people attack others because they are driven by a 100 forms of fear.. thats false evidence appearing real.. i used to be one of those people... especially when drinking.. i hated myself so i charecter assassinated others.. why ? because i hated myself...

one day at a time

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 8, 2009, 14:42:

"utopiacowboy here is a soccer video that was sent to me earlier today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvEobeNfGcc"

As my wife would say, que bruta!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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webmanco says on Nov 8, 2009, 14:54:

Elizabeth Lambert is an Angel in real life including forums.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:02:

I have a question, "Why do people talk poorly about each other?"

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:12 (today): flag

Duglas, you are a wise man.

I don't see the usual haters posting here... BTW where is our dear bitch?....

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:08:

hmmm,

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:13 (today): flag

Lisa Zee:

"BTW where is our dear bitch?...."

Tsk tsk, Lisa ;-)

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:12:

from Doug the Elder, Wiseman, etc.........
''what reasoning would a man/woman have to speak ill of someone--especially behind their backs or in cyber space--if they were at ease with themselves internaly.''
_________________________________

Maybe Doug can shed some light on this, because I'm truly confused.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:24:

Ms. LisaZ, I'm more confused than 20 blind lesbians in a fish market.

People keep on bringing up these subgroups within pbh, like the 'clique' etc. I'm baffled really as I don't know who belongs and really would like to know who belongs to the 'usual haters', as you explain.

Who are the members of the 'usual haters'.

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Miguel says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:31:

Why be confused? It is obvious that Darloup has complete immunity here on PBH. He also is a marked man. His internet "personaje" is not worth jack shit when those he has dissed here faces him IRL.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:34:

Ma, that might be simply one member’s paranoia regarding anyone who dares to disagree, or points out some error in a post or comment.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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RAAAY says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:35:

Sloop,did you see the thread about......." "

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:36:

nope, RAAY

Sorry, yes I just did and replied.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Miguel says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:37:

Oye RAAAY...that fishbowl thing is a lot of fun, right? Nice to have you back.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:42:

Thank you Mr. Miguel, I think you answered the question and maybe LisaZ can verify.

Is Darloup a member of this 'usual hater' group?

I'm just trying to put two and two together, ....on a thread about talking badly behind peoples backs, maybe Darloup and LisaZ are a big part of this by calling someone a bitch.

that's not very nice.

Doug the elder says that they are not at ease with themselves. Maybe doug the patriarch can clarify for us.

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:44:

No Ma, he created the list (but won't share it, or the clique [enemies] membership list).

He claims that he has some sort of a French psychiatric license [but in the U.S. that would also mean he is a physician], so he’d certainly recognize paranoia, whouldn’t ya’ think?

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:50:

Thanks for that information Mr. Sloopskipper, because I want to find out if Darloup put me on the list. I'm a lover, not a fighter.

Why is it though that some people can instigate name calling, ....and others can be put in the fish bowl, and they never called any names at all?

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dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:57:

hell, ma............we all been there. no secret about being uneasy within. what's the saying?, been there, done that. first time i took inventory, i had to close the door and come back later, it looked so bad in side. took some time, but after a bit of sweeping and washing, and getting used to (trying) not making the same mistake over and over again, the load got a little lighter until (sort of ) finally, i could deal with my own shit. recognize it as mine and not feel compelled to project it on some one else. as repeat performances slowly died out, so did the projection. now, ya'll seem fine to me.....kinda like regular ole humans. tall short fat skinny dumb smart handsome pretty ugly etc. i've more clear headed time to not call the kettle black and be at ease at going up and in, instead of down and out.

patriarch

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RAAAY says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:58:

Miguel.................I'm still too traumatized to talk about it. Seeing Elmo and Anti's dead bodies in there was to much. And Sapo stinks.


But, I managed to find some beer, and somehow entertained myself for the week.


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:58:

Ma, if you are on the list, an attack, accusation, or verbal abuse will eventually confirm it.

"Why is it though that some people can instigate name calling, ....and others can be put in the fish bowl, and they never called any names at all?"

That is a question asked by many. It almost leads one to believe the "favoritism" claimed by many.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:07:

Now I get it, it's all just a big joke....."..."Qui ne vaut pas une risée ne vaut pas grandchose." "If you're not worth a laugh, then you're not worth much"

still bothers me though, i wouldn't feel comfortable calling a member or a mod a 'bitch', even though the french think you're worth a laugh or you're not worth much.

i myself just came out of the fishbowl, and i never called anybody, ANYTHING!

Do you think this hate group, hates me?

How does this hate group operate under the eyes of the mods?

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:15:

dwmte7 says on Nov 8, 2009, 17:57 (today): flag

hell, ma............we all been there. no secret about being uneasy within. what's the saying?, been there, done that. first time i took inventory, i had to close the door and come back later, it looked so bad in side. took some time, but after a bit of sweeping and washing, and getting used to (trying) not making the same mistake over and over again, the load got a little lighter until (sort of ) finally, i could deal with my own shit. recognize it as mine and not feel compelled to project it on some one else. as repeat performances slowly died out, so did the projection. now, ya'll seem fine to me.....kinda like regular ole humans. tall short fat skinny dumb smart handsome pretty ugly etc. i've more clear headed time to not call the kettle black and be at ease at going up and in, instead of down and out.
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oh my, Mr Doug, is Darloup your psychiatrist? If so, I'd get a second opinion.

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:19:

MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:07 (today): flag

'Now I get it, it's all just a big joke....."..."Qui ne vaut pas une risée ne vaut pas grandchose." "If you're not worth a laugh, then you're not worth much"

still bothers me though, i wouldn't feel comfortable calling a member or a mod a 'bitch', even though the french think you're worth a laugh or you're not worth much.'

Ma, it's not a joke, or even a bit funny, really.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Miguel says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:25:

Estimada MaBarker "Why is it though that some people can instigate name calling, ....and others can be put in the fish bowl, and they never called any names at all?"
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As a proud member of PBH for over than five years now, and a recent convict that served 4000 minutes in "The Fishbowl", all I can offer is that for some reason the powers that be choose to let Darloup run at will. Mister Darloup has somehow been rewarded the power to have some very helpfutl members of this forum to be banned. I also got a warning from the owner of this site (PETER) about my comments and opinions. So Mister Peter, if you want to delete my account, go ahead and do so. You should be congratulated for what you created with PBH, but you are now lacking perspective.

"There is nothing lower than the human race...except for the French." - Mark Twain 1878-79

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:27:

MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:28:

Mr Doug 'we all been there' Elder, ....I haven't been there, really. Can you show me where I've been involved with namecalling with a cut and paste?

I was hoping you would be able to shed some light on Darloup and LisaZ calling some person 'a dear bitch' behind their backs.

you said, ".................what reasoning would a man/woman have to speak ill of someone--especially behind their backs or in cyber space--if they were at ease with themselves internally" .

Maybe you're part of this hate group I keep hearing about? Is it OK for them to call someone a bitch?

I don't think you''ve resolved your pot-kettle issues you've told us about. Please clarify.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:33:

RAAAY is a special needs kind of guy. Due to his special needs handicap, they replaced the Fishbowl water with beer. He initially refused to be released. Must be that Institution Syndrome.

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:46:

Ma, surely most will attest to the fact that Doug is part of no sort of hate group!

Although he's been here much longer than me, I am not as familiar with RAAY, but from what I have seen, he's also a straight-up guy.

As far as shedding any light on the members you mentioned, I'd rather not offer opinions. Many complain of mod favortism, but you can easily use the search feature at the upper right of most PBH screens. Then you can draw your own conclusions, or simply watch here. More will be revealed.

However, Liza seems to be a friend, and often comes to the defense of the other member.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 18:52:

Yea, I agree, wasn't he some kind of peace/love hippie at UC Berkeley? Nah, I don't think he's part of this hate group at PBH.

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goin_south says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:08:

instead of asking Sir Douglas,.... why don't you jus ask Darloup & Lisa, about calling someone 'bitch'?
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Now, I'm going to do some wash, before I step in ch*t :-))

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:13:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:24:

I did not insult anyone, it is not my nature. and Darloup had nothing to do with what I post. ;)

See below........

Bitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In literal, non-slang use, bitch is a term for female canines, particularly amongst dog breeders.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:36:

""I did not insult anyone, it is not my nature. and Darloup had nothing to do with what I post. ;)''
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LisaZ, who were you referring to when you asked Darloup,...

"I don't see the usual haters posting here... BTW where is our dear bitch?....''''
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So you now say that you were referring to a dog, like the canine variety, right? DO DOGS POST ON THIS BOARD? You say you don't see them posting here. You also refer to them as haters. i didn't know that dogs could operate a computer, type in english, and understand what we are saying here. Can you show me examples of what dogs told you they hate? Did they send you their hate menu by email?

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Papi de Alejo says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:37:

Then which dog were you talking about. Darloup is a cat man.

Live simply... Love generously... Care deeply... Speak kindly...

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:38:

LisaZ: ''I did not insult anyone, it is not my nature.'''

didn't you once instigate a vicious personal attack, now deleted, on UTC's wife. I say it is part of your nature.

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sloopskipper says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:39:

When you said: "I don't see the usual haters posting here... BTW where is our dear bitch?...." it somehow doesn't sound like you're seeking your female breed dog, but more like the slang-use of that word..

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:41:

MaBaker jajajajajajaja! that is funny. I was not asking anyone, it was just a general Q. Don't worry who I was directing the Q to LOL. You will not understand.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:42:

''and Darloup had nothing to do with what I post. ;)''

I stand corrected, you were asking Duglas, 'where is our dear bitch?'

It seems it was Darloup who replied immediately to your comment, so yes he does have something to do with your comment, he cut and pasted it.

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:13 (today): flag

Lisa Zee:

"BTW where is our dear bitch?...."

Tsk tsk, Lisa ;-)

.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:46:

LisaZ, can everyone refer to you as a 'dear bitch'?
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Lets take another look at your reference for the definition of bitch:



Bitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In literal, non-slang use, bitch is a term for female canines, particularly amongst dog breeders. It is also a common English profanity for a woman that typically carries denigrating or misogynistic overtones—such as resemblance to a dog. Its usage may be to characterize someone as having aggressive and spiteful bitterness, or else in being in possession of rudely intrusive or domineering tendencies. Its original use as a vulgarism, documented to the fourteenth century, suggested high sexual desire in a woman, comparable to a bitch in heat.

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:48:

I think Darloup was actually surprised, he was not laughing like jajaja he was like tsk tsk, like no, no how could you.
Relax let it go. You must be mew and don't know the haters or the argumentative here. Tranquila mija, el problema no es contigo ;).

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:48:

Could you elaborate on what you mean in this next comment:......

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:18 (today): flag

Well she/it is always ready to start insulting, and attacking everyone, even PETER!!!, I would like to know, what makes this animal bark at everyone with no motive at all?.

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:52:

I can but, it will open a new huge discussion, and I rather not, if you really insist and tell me now yes or no, I will PM you with the evidence.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:52:

I think that you are referring to a pbh commenter, behind her back, against the rules, and all with mod support. You are also calling her an 'animal'.

Could you elaborate on this 'hate group' that you refer to? Who belongs to it?

I was put in the fishbowl last week, and I never called anyone any names. Now you have involved yourself into a vicious name calling attack and have not been put in the fishbowl.

Why is that?

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 20:04:

I NEVER call anyone names,or plainly attack anyone. I do not know you at all. I do not know what happen to you, I am not involved in any way shape or form, I am not a mod. An animal can not be an insult, look around and see how many animals we have here, we could have a zoo. I am talking about AVATARS! Case close.
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"MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:38 (today): flag

LisaZ: ''I did not insult anyone, it is not my nature.'''

didn't you once instigate a vicious personal attack, now deleted, on UTC's wife. I say it is part of your nature."

FOR YOUR INFORMATION: It was proven that someone else said it, NOT ME!!!!
Get your facts straight before you accuse me please.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 8, 2009, 20:07:

Now I'm going to answer the question of the OP.....Why do people talk badly about each other?'

There are a half a dozen commenters on PBH, that bring out the worst in everyone and prevent this from being a productive site as well as scaring away good posters.

AS pointed out previiously, the description of 'personal attacks' and 'talking badly' are actually the group policing itself.

I've pointed out huge contradictions on this thread as well as a lot of hypocrisy.

I'll let the medical professionals diagnose the reasons why three or four have motivations to create the problems they do as well as why they are not policed.

But anyone reading this thread can see what the problems are.

Thank you and good night

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Catfish35 says on Nov 8, 2009, 20:56:

Some on here sound like they have had counseling from the Army Psychiatrist at Fort Hood!
I always live by the words of my dear slap happy grand pappy..he says to me one day says "keep your pecker outta the payroll" and "When the powers to be are hitting you in the ass with a telephone pole son, just think how good it will feel when they switch to the baseball bat"

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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goin_south says on Nov 8, 2009, 22:32:

LisaZeee...

............I'm really surprised at you! (tsk, tsk, tsk...) referring to one of our beloved posters as one of "aggressive and spiteful bitterness, or else in being in possession of rudely intrusive or domineering tendencies.... (with) high sexual desire,,,,,,, comparable to a bitch in heat."

(The last part, probably true, as joyously, it seems to be true with most colombian ladies, ... and, no denying it by the best ones!)

I'm more suprised at YOUR DENIAL of reference, ... However, I did get a chuckle full of laughter at your comment:

.............."I NEVER call anyone names,or plainly attack anyone. I do not know you at all. I do not know what happen to you, I am not involved in any way shape or form, I am not a mod. An animal can not be an insult, look around and see how many animals we have here, we could have a zoo. I am talking about AVATARS!

and, for that, I give you a ........... funny (X)

But, for the first part: shame, shame, shame...

"The Chief" can be of help, in the area of ethics for you ;-))

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 9, 2009, 01:29:

Wow.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 9, 2009, 05:32:

130 posts on "Why do people talk poorly about each other?" jijijijijiji

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goin_south says on Nov 9, 2009, 11:09:

well, did you ever know of pbh to handing out 'warm, fuzzies' all through the day and night?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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dwmte7 says on Nov 9, 2009, 16:03:

mr mabarker...........those weighty queries will needs be attended by yourself. me, i have had enough--actually, more than enough--just digging through my own shit.....ain't it amazing that we throw rocks at ourselves and dig pot holes in the road in front of our self? just an aside.

as for the present fray.....no bets placed and no dog in the scrap. just hope the best man/woman wins.

as for berkeley, just vote 'no' on 'yes' and you'll fit in perfectly.

patriarch

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 17:09:

Miss patriarch, sorry to hear you can't man-up to the discussion, or clarify your statement, or make a response to a personal attack on a thread about namecalling and insults.

It's not about 'hope the best man/woman wins.' It's about fairness, good judgement, and the proper management of the site; otherwise, we are all losers with no winners.

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 17:25:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 19:41: flag

MaBaker jajajajajajaja! that is funny. I was not asking anyone, it was just a general Q. Don't worry who I was directing the Q to LOL. You will not understand.

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I don't care if you were talking about me or anyone else, I could care less. This was just a demonstration of how a thread on 'namecalling and how to understand its causes and roots', turns into a personal attack itself.

The usual instigator, Mr Darloup, is never far away from the source and the cause of the attacks, even on a thread about 'understanding attacks'.

My incisive questions above sure removed this thread from being a sticky. So I guess that's the real problem, 'lets bury the issue quickly so we don't expose any unfairness'.

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 9, 2009, 17:42:

You still going at it?. You sure like quoting me!.
I am sorry we have not been properly introduesed. : I am Lisa Zee from Medellin Colombia, I live in California USA. and what did you say your name was? are you from Colombia? very pretty girl, I am delighted to meet your acquaintance! :)

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 17:49:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 20:04: flag

I NEVER call anyone names,or plainly attack anyone. I do not know you at all. I do not know what happen to you, I am not involved in any way shape or form, I am not a mod. An animal can not be an insult, look around and see how many animals we have here, we could have a zoo. I am talking about AVATARS! Case close.
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.Unfortunately, the case is not closed, and won't be until management understands that rules are not enforced by 'who your friends are' amongst other subjective judgements.

LisaZ, you are the typical pbh poster in your responses above, ...never answering the question, 'denial rants', etc.

"I NEVER call anyone names,or plainly attack anyone"", .....and in the same thread you refer to another pbher as an 'animal', and a 'dear bitch', illustrates an immensity irrational thinking.

BTW, a contradiction of a statement is not an argument. To defeat my argument, you need evidence.............

MaBarker: You called someone an 'animal', and a 'dear bitch'.
LisaZ: No, I didn't.
MaBarker: Yes, you did.
LisaZ: No, I didn't
MaBarker: Yes, you did.

Show us an argument disputing my facts, or admit you were wrong. Anything else, and your rebuttals appear to be on the same level as Miss Patriarch's........"as for berkeley, just vote 'no' on 'yes' and you'll fit in perfectly." , like it was written by someone having a flashback from a 'bad trip' in the sixties.

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 9, 2009, 18:01:

LisaZ: No, I didn't.
MaBarker: Yes, you did.
LisaZ: No, I didn't
MaBarker: Yes, you did. ????????????????????????????!!!!>>>>> "immensity irrational thinking "

What are you smoking???stop It is not good for your complexion!
Are you related to one of our dear animals here!?, you started to sound just like it!

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 18:19:

Lisa Zee says on Nov 9, 2009, 18:01 (today): flag

LisaZ: No, I didn't.
MaBarker: Yes, you did.
LisaZ: No, I didn't
MaBarker: Yes, you did. ????????????????????????????!!!!>>>>> "immensity irrational thinking "

What are you smoking???stop It is not good for your complexion!
Are you related to one of our dear animals here!?, you started to sound just like it!
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There is another thread going on right now with Greg Yohn, is he a relative of yours? You both sound so much alike.

Raay has started an excellent thread with an allegorical fable describing your behavior, Darloups behavior, and a few others, and how some pbhers are permitted to do all the namecalling and personal attacks they want. Very poignant.

You might want to make a note of an old saying, and more importantly, pass it on to your friend Darloup, 'what goes around, comes around'.

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 9, 2009, 18:35:

"I was hoping you would be able to shed some light on Darloup and LisaZ calling some person 'a dear bitch' behind their backs."
WHO the hek are you? You have been rating all over this thread!, and making shit up. Listen, read this: Darloup never used the word B... where do you come up with that?.......... now I see.....
You somehow think it is my fault you were in the fish bowl, now I see why, you are all over the place with your nasty style, and belittling Greg and Darloup.

Tiene usted *otra identidd* aqui? ahhhh muy interesante!......

"'what goes around, comes around'"................. you are so right about that "DEAR", repeat that to yourself 20.000 times a day!

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 19:12:

I donl't see any belitling of GY, Darloup, or you. I only asked some very simple questions of why you called someone a bitch and an animal. You also called me, an 'animal.' You also addressed me as, "DEAR".

The title of the thread is, 'Why do people talk poorly about each other', .......and I'm asking you, why do you talk poorly about people on the site?

There is a sub-hypothesis about why do some people have a stamp of approval by moderation to initiate, persist, and perpetuate personal attacks; but after so many requests, i don't think that will ever be expalined or resolved.

I have only one account and one identity, ......I've never initiated a personal attack on anyone.

"'what goes around, comes around'.................. you are so right about that "DEAR", repeat that to yourself 20.000 times a day!""

is that a threat?

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 9, 2009, 19:40:

"is that a threat?" NO, is it yours a threat?.

I don't go following posters and pests them with strong language, this calling someone a B, is an isolated incident. You *seam* to know a lot about me,( not) accusing me of calling someones wife XXX!!??(and you just joined this year or last!?)
What I don't understand is why do you care who I was referring to?This would sound more like "chismosear"

YOU turned this me calling a bitch and animal to a third party ( not even directly) into a big deal. I explain the definition in Wikipedia, but you chose to look farther to another mining when I have said what it was, then you want me to explain to you, a person that I have no idea who you are. Now I read other posts and you are there with the usual gang hand in hand getting aggressive and mean to Greg and insinuating that Daloup has something to do with my mes? Please, find another person that likes to argue back and forth, and copy and paste on and on.

Vive la vida y deja vivir!.

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MaBarker says on Nov 9, 2009, 20:00:

The questions I have are designed to expose hypocrisy in how the site runs and are not primarily directed towards you...........whether or not you want to explain anything is secondary, and I really don't care what you say, I'm not that sensitive. If it was up to me, there would be a pbh forum for saying anything you want.

I don't see my questions on Gregs behavior in restaurants as 'getting mean'. The PBH rules say we are encouraged to question and disagree within these forums, and some of us, like me, PROVIDE EVIDENCE to back up my points. Greg has mistreated well meaning people on this site, me included. Let me say it another way, Greg made his bed and now he is sleeping in it.

The funny thing about all this, is that there have been only 4 personal attacks initiated against me at various times, ....by you, doug, darloup, and greg. Sounds like there is a gang here alright.

Thank you and goodnite.

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goin_south says on Nov 9, 2009, 22:10:

uhhh. Lisa.... mabarker has been 'around' since 2007. a few years.
And, Mabarker,... I don't think Doug is a member of 'any gang'.
He's barely a member of his own gang ;-))

Lisa,... you should have stuck with the "Incredible Photos of Colombia" thread...

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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christobeldawg says on Nov 9, 2009, 22:48:

there are a number of reasons why people talk poorly about each other, usuallyalways has to do with not feeling good about one's self.

traveling hopefully is always better than arriving

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MitchAlvarez says on Nov 10, 2009, 00:06:

a couple of people in here need a hug

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 11, 2009, 04:45:

If it is just a couple people that bother you then put them on ignore and get over it. Just like these people would never talk like this in person but for the internet they are all up in it. So the positive side to that and unlike in real life you can just ignore them.

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webmanco says on Nov 11, 2009, 06:22:

A couple of nurses here need more than a hug and a pointer finger.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 11, 2009, 06:28:

Nurses? I have a swelling nurse!! Help!!

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 06:49:

Try applying a deeper analysis in human motivations than you would find in a 5th grade idealized, impractical, Sunday school indoctrination. Your opponents in life may have deeper, darker, aspirations in store for you.

Why are some permitted personal attacks and others not?

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dwmte7 says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:00:

ma....insulted you?.....lisa was right. that's a posture i reserve for few....and none you know. why would i choose to insult you? for your belittling remarks? not my style. you will continue if there's no one here to respond to your comments.

it brings to mind the words of one of my more ancient mentors...thomas vaughn, england, 1643....."thus reader have i given thee my best advise and now it appears thou shouldst rail at me for it. maybe thou art as one with a free spirit. as for myself, me thinks that if that liberality serves not thy credit, i would have thee keep they spleen to thyself, for i woudlst not have thee spend what thou canst well spare." thus he.

that said, i repeat, i have no dog in this fray, and if you continue to seek fleas on an invisible dog, i give you my wholehearted support.

patriarch

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webmanco says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:03:

MaBarker I do wonder if you are for real, I mean don´t you have a different handle, or did you?

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:24:

''TOO BAD! Put your nose into someone else's business, but not mine!''

GY, you first, as I think you are a waste of time and I have better things to do, '...but you have no idea how deeply i'm involved in 'your business".

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:26:

Mr. Webmanco, I'm a person of integrity, ....I have only one account and it will stay that way according to the rules.

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webmanco says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:27:

Thanks Ms MaBarker

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:34:

Mr. dwtme, as I told LisaZ, my primary questioning involves exposing hypocrisy in how the site is run, not to make disparaging remarks about her. I explained to her, that honestly I don't care what she says, in fact, I would not object at all to a pbh forum where people can carry on with insults, if they wanted.

The same goes for you, I really have no gripe with you, but you became inolved when this comment was directed towards you.........

Lisa Zee says on Nov 8, 2009, 10:12: flag

Duglas, you are a wise man.

I don't see the usual haters posting here... BTW where is our dear bitch?....

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:41:

Mr. dwtme, I asked you to take your comment about 'people attack because they hate themselves', (paraphrased), and please apply it to the comment made my LisaZ.

You responded on the other thread with what i took as a wiseguy answer. I was insulted and had every right to be.

This is not invisible.

If you don't want people questioning your comments, than maybe you shouldn't be commenting. I didn't know it was against the rules to challenge people's comments.

If anyone wants to debate me, bring it on, i love it, i have no fear of someone questioning or debating my comments.

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 07:59:

Mr. dwtme, could you show me any 'belittling remarks' that I made towards you prior to your wiseguy comment on the other thread? In fact, I don't see any belittling remarks at all. I'm quite careful about that, as i was put in the fishbowl for absolutely no reason at all, as I did not break any rules.

In fact, it looks like you started the namecalling with "mr mabarker'.

Your failure to respond would explain the self-realized weaknesses and impotence of your argument.

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 08:32:

I wasn't talking to you GY. I don't want to comment on your pizza problems in this thread. This is a serious thread about people talking badly to one another, and it's one of the few that have not been demoted or deleted when the logic gets tough for the bad guys.

I've made positive contributions with my suggestion of 'double-ignore' which may or may not work, but i think it deserves a try. Everyone is now a moderator.

What in the world are you talking about here........

........WRONG!

Boredom could be an excuse. How about having other priorities in life? What happens if the person turned off the computer and went grocery shopping?

Silence does not mean your intended suggestion!

Assuming without knowing can not be seen as logical!
...................................

Don't hijack this thread with your rationalizations about the way you handled yourself in the restaurant.........please start another thread.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 11, 2009, 08:41:

GREG, leave the Ma alone.. Why do you antagonize the ladies?

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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gatogris says on Nov 11, 2009, 08:51:

The question of from whence originates the pernicious venom that characterizes so much of human interaction is one of the most gnawing existential questions we will ever confront as a species.

One of the reasons must be related to Marcus Antonius' (or was it Iron Maiden's?) observation that "The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones."

In other words, your good deeds often disappear in the mists of time, but your wicked ones live on in infamy, in the smarting, salt-encrusted wounds of those whose thin skin you have perforated with your calumnious fishhooks. Cruelty has greater immediate impact than gentility, it is easier to provoke a result with forty tongue-lashes than with the most assiduous "tossing of the salad," and since we all know deep down that are lives so inconsequentially minuscule so as to barely even exist, we strain to make an impact of any kind at all, in the hopes that we may be reminded that we somehow matter.

But don't take my word for it, just look at the comments on this thread (and many others). Some commentators are begging for a conflict, pleading on their knees for others to "bring it on," to the point where they sound like a parody of a masochist yearning for the sting of riding crop across the bare fetlocks, clanking rusty chains like hungry ghosts desperate for any kind of contact at all, sniveling like a petty, quibbling pettifogger, and all because the universe is big and cold and empty and any spark at all is still a spark of life.

Yes, the Garden of Gethsemane is a lonely place, and we've all spent a little time there.

We all know what's a-comin'. To paraphrase the Diamond Sutra, this world is a river, we are a droplet, and someday, that river's gonna meet the ocean.

Unfortunately for the rationalists on this site, there is no such thing as a pure separation of message from messenger. Every thrust and riposte, even (or especially?) in parliamentary debate, necessarily requires a refutation of something someone else believes. So at best you are calling them misguided, at medium muddleheaded, and at worst a lying ratfucker.

Remember, in Robert's Rules of Order Revised for Deliberative Assemblies, Article VII, Section 43, it states "ad hominem arguments are permitted only to the degree that they contribute to the point at hand." So unfortunately, we are stuck with a little casting of aspersions, a little trash-talk, a little bluster from the commoners in the bear pit.

And in the end, we are best off saying with Prospero "this thing of darkness I acknowledge mine."

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 09:48:

Mr gatogris, thanks for your comment, but you don't understand my symbolic input within this thread and many of the issues of why the site is closed and why many fine posters have departed. (You and I have met, btw).

Of course there is always going to be ad hom, ...how many sites do not face the challenges of ad hom on a daily basis? I've even seen it on the religion sites, from a pastor no less.

You may not check in enough to know the deeper issues that are being satirized and parodied in this thread. There was a thread demoted about an hour ago that lasted 1 minute. It would surprise me if more than a couple of people were able to view this thread; it broke no rules whatsoever.

What you're seeing is a conflict between two opposing forces within PBH; one wants all rules applied evenly, the other side 'rules by friendship'. My own suggestion is to install double-ignore and let each person subjectively decide who can participate in their conversations.

Many fine posters from the past, now departed, as well as a few of us here now who have chosen to fight for change rather than leave, await some changes to make this site just a little bit more friendly. After all, a lot of people have scratched their initials into the site many years ago, and feel that it is second home.

There was a very good, sincere fable made up by a poster the other night that describes the sincerity of some of us.....deleted in 20 minutes for absolutely no cause.

You may not check in here enough to understand the subtle nuances of satire currently going on in this sandbox. Yes, an 'intentional sandbox' and a scarcity of good posts like yesteryear, although I've heard that many of our departed friends will return if some improvements are made.

''Robert's Rules of Order Revised for Deliberative Assemblies, Article VII, Section 43,''''''.....haha, oh please!!

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 09:54:

GY, I'm glad to hear you support ad hom statements as long as they contribute to the point at hand.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 11, 2009, 09:59:

gatogris says on Nov 11, 2009, 10:09:

It's Alright Ma,

Don't fret, I understand you have some very profound grievances that you feel an itching need to have addressed, and the sound of axes on a grindstone is one I am familiar enough with, although I only check in here very occasionally.

I am sure you are correct in that I miss "the subtle nuances of satire" that clearly abound on this site. The sophistication of the discourse here is truly nonpareil, the penetrating qualities of the minds at work astonishing, yes, what a piece of work is this message board, how noble in reason is the conversation here, how infinite in faculties are the members, how like an angel in action, yea, in apprehension how like a god!

I'm sorry, are you implying that I falsified that Robert's Rules quotation?

Here is the source:

http://www.bartleby.com/176/43.html

That should clear things up for you, I know it can all be a little confusing.

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 10:49:

haha, no no, i was implying that many of us know each other, and we're very good friends and there is no need for rules of order. I would not bring out rules of order on you, but Mr PCL sounds like a guy that needs the treatment.

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MaBarker says on Nov 11, 2009, 11:04:

Yes, Mr PCL is in constant violation of Roberts Orders, Article 26, Paragraph 277, Sub-Paragraph 2334, Line 746, where it is clearly spelled out that you are only permitted no more than 100,000, LOL's, Hahahs, Hohos in a forum per month. He is in constant violation of this rule and should be removed from the site.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 11, 2009, 11:06:

Miss Ma, you randy little B... I dont know if thats going to happen or possible so YES, please schedule me for Deletion at your earliest convenience.. :(

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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goin_south says on Nov 11, 2009, 11:09:

La-di-daaaah-di-dah, dah, Dah! a todo.

Is someone handing out college credits for reading/writing this discourse/intercourse?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Nov 11, 2009, 11:21:

I'd like to think back to a Time... when people were happier:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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gatogris says on Nov 11, 2009, 11:29:

Indeed, there should be college credits given out for a truly inspired salad tossing...

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dwmte7 says on Nov 13, 2009, 08:39:

.............a truly thread bare thread. i see all the laborers at work making this a more friendly site.

i'm just old and befuddled, but last i heard, environs are made friendly by friendliness, not discord. so maybe we could all start all over again...with a smile...and then, just maybe, all rules of order not withstanding, we'll have a jolly ole chat. who cares about what?, more importantly, how.

patriarch

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