which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by?

Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 16, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? (Written by H)
I'm off to La Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta next year, so I don't think I will tempt fate by saying who I'd rather be kidnapped by.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 16, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? (Written by z)
more ignorance. They kidnap you for money! So it does not make a lot of sense to go to the trouble to kidnap you and then kill you right away now does it? Shouldn't you be in school or playing with your nintendo or something???

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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 16, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? (Written by Stn)
Z, they also kipnap people to put on political pressure, or for reprisals, or for publicity. .
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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 16, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? (Written by z)
yep that too but my point is they don't just kidnap you to kill you as was stated.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 17, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? oh yeah, if theres 3 of you they might just want to keep only 2 and kill 1.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 17, 2003, 21:00:

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Another interesting question: If you are a colombian worker who is unhappy with his conditions of employment and tries to do something about it, which terrorist organization are you more likely to be KILLED by?

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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 17, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? I think the ELN is actually worse actually. In the Cali and Popayan area, they are responsable for the majority of the kidnapping..



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Peter (Moderator) says on Sep 18, 2003, 21:00:

RE: which terrorist group would you rather be kidnapped by? (Written by Dre)
Out of all three terrorist groups in Colombia. I would rather get kidnapped by the AUC because they would eventually find out that I opposed the FARC and ELN.

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jccg says on Jan 14, 2005, 12:53:

Due to your ignorance, some trues... First, the guerrillas FARC and ELN are the ones that kidnap people, they don get people to kill them, that is too stupid and only will happend in holliwood movies.
Second, tha AUC are the private army of the narcotrafficants. They are mercenaries that work for any company that wants to "protect" their owners from a kiddnap. Those are the ones that kill and turture for "fun".

An "American" will not be worried of AUC (unless you support human rights). But the guerrilas would be interested in you, not because of money but because of publicity, also Coloambian goverment will worry for you.

Finally, the probability of been kidnapped is less than 1%, the guerrilas are more interested in get the money from kidnapping narcotrafficants than from a normal person.


This is just the true!!

This is just the true!!

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juancegomez says on Jan 14, 2005, 13:58:

The AUC also kidnap people...only much less But that's beside the point.

I don't believe that the question is a good one, because kidnapping is a horrible thing in itself, no matter who is "kinder" to the victim.

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umm says on Jan 14, 2005, 21:09:

I actually rather like the FARC and wouldnt mind to be kidnapped by them.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 15, 2005, 07:43:

Surely that can be arranged maybe you should take to hiking through some FARC hot-zones then?

Personally, if I'm kidnapped I want it to be by the Italian women's ski team.

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umm says on Jan 15, 2005, 20:16:

I have been to San Vicente del Caguan and everywhere, but noone wanted to kidnap me:...Maybe I am just not worth the effort... buaaaaah

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 16, 2005, 22:22:

That's like saying.......... Would you rather die by fire or die by sword?

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umm says on Jan 16, 2005, 22:24:

Die by having had too much sex jajajajajaja
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pink_lotus says on Jan 17, 2005, 20:50:

HAHAHAHA TOO FUNNY! Um !
LOLOLOLOL

Mono Joi Joi come and get me! :) :)

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umm says on Jan 17, 2005, 22:08:

Mono Jojoy??
¿Te gustaría conocer a Jorge Briceño personalmente?
Quieres una cita pa que conozcas al man?
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pink_lotus says on Jan 18, 2005, 17:22:

No I just think is name rocks!
However I have heard that he is very very evil.
And no my ex husband is a very important man in Colombia so he could get me an appointment without your help!

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umm says on Jan 18, 2005, 20:08:

Bush is also very very evil. Maybe both can shake hands.
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pink_lotus says on Jan 18, 2005, 21:52:

WHy the hell are you bringing Bush into this conversation???
Oh it's becasue I'm american right... and you want be a little smarty pants and try to push my buttons and spark some debate cierto?
Oh my gosh...what an american supposed to do?Start getting all upset becasue little ummy said president Bush was evil.
NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
DUH YOU FOOL THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS HE'S EVIL! YOUR NOT THE FIRST ONE TO FIGURE THAT OUT!

I suppose you want me to start defedning my country and Bush...
Why else would you bring him into the discusion lil pr*ck?
First off I hate Bush ... and that has nothing to do with the mono joy joy or whatever the fuck his name is
So no debate from me baby.

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cleo0367 says on Feb 2, 2005, 12:47:

Bucaramanga Which rebels activate in and around Bucaramanga? Are they dangerous?

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umm says on Feb 2, 2005, 21:13:

pink lotus tienes toa la razon, fue para sacarte la piedra, no mas, granmarica de mierda.

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ARMacleod says on Feb 12, 2005, 01:04:

Easy Desideria, Cerealkiller, Mrs Gomez, Save the wildcats.

(and don't anyone tell me that any female is not into terrorising the male of the species, (thankfully))


Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.

The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 12, 2005, 12:45:

haha jamesvelezhernandez I take it as a compliment to be included in your list of your favorite terrorists. I've never been called that before! With the kind of gallantry and finesse you're showing you can be sure we'll give "the gentle treatment" in the jungle.

Cheers,
desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ARMacleod says on Feb 14, 2005, 10:32:

Magic! A kidnapping that I shall look forward to with eager anticipation. And if you cannot find me I will be at Grid Reference 983473. (Follow the arrows)

Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.

The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.

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Save the Wildcats says on Feb 21, 2005, 16:44:

Wow! A terrorist? Meet me in the Darien Gap at midnight, and I will try to show restraint and not chew too much up under the legs and into the chest as another poster accused me of. I bite gently! ;-)

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platano says on Mar 13, 2005, 11:30:

A Kidnapping Last I checked Colombia was part of reality and not terribly different than living in other places. Life presents problems and Colombians have their share. But wherever you are and whatever happens, you have the option of how to respond.


I want to give two brief examples of things that have happened to me in Colombia. I was kidnapped by guerrillas and I had hemorrhoid surgery. In both cases I was prepared to die. After all, death is part of reality, too. But I chose to confront each situation in a friendly way.


Colombians are wonderful people I reasoned, so Colombian guerrillas must be wonderful people, too. And I was right. At any moment they could have killed me. (At any moment any of us could die suddenly). The way I chose to confront the reality of the situation (and I hope no one thinks this is a Disneyworld approach!) was to treat my kidnappers with respect (they did have the machine guns) and realize they are not monsters. They are human beings acting consistent with their ideology.


We had great talks about many subjects: literature, history, etc. They also respected me except when I criticized their ideology and methods. That made them angry and threatening. I was transferred from the urban safe house to "the mountains of Colombia." One night I suggested a joke festival. We all took turns telling jokes. A good time was had by all!


I took the whole experience as a meditation retreat, all expenses paid by the guerrillas. They catered the food and provided comfortable accomdations (a hammock with mosquito netting.) You could respond differently to the situation and create much different, much less pleasant experience.


We are all just human beings on a journey, here on this planet for a short while. I could have been killed and I was ready for that, too. It is just part of reality.


With the surgery I took the same approach always operating (no pun intended!) from the idea that Colombians are wonderful people, always being respectful, and my experience on the operating table (conscious with only a spinal block) was similar. I told the surgeons jokes as they operated. A good time was had by all!


You cannot control what experiences you have in Colombia (or anywhere else).


Things happen unexpectedly.


What you can control is your reaction.


Relaxing and enjoying has been a good strategy for me in all situations.


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