I get some nasty headaches. I used to take my pills down from Canada but I'm going for a longer time. I can get some kind of note from my doctor (not that it makes much difference in Colombia). The main problem is to find a place that sells them. I live on the north coast but I will spend some time in Bogota when I arrive.

I'd be willing to try something else too but I don't want to change if I don't have to. I'm after 5 or 10 mg pills and I don't want the slow release ones if I can help it.

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Maybe you're not into healthy living, but may I suggest... chiropractic?
Perhaps you've already tried, and failed, but.... about 8 out of ten people that consult with one for that complaint, find significant relief, if they follow the practioner's recommendations. I like those odds.

Posted on April 27, 2009


Good luck on getting Oxy. Try Dovir. It comes in 30 pills per bottle @5mg per pill. The cost runs from $47,000 to $55,000 per 30 pills. Oxy is too dependent and people usually end up misusing it. Also, Oxy is really not meant for headaches anyway. It is a neuromuscular medication so I don't know how useful it would be for you. And here you never really know what the quality of the drug is.

Finally, go to the upper right hand of this page and do a search. There are several posts in here regarding pain meds. Some are very recent. I would stay away from Oxy because of the dependency aspect. If you run out of it down here in Colombia you have no idea if you can find another place that carries it and the withdrawals are a bitch. If you are already dependant, see a doctor so he can give you meds to bring you back to the cosmos slowly.

Posted on April 27, 2009


i'm not sure exactly where you can get it, but i'm pretty certain chris can.

d good luck

Posted on April 27, 2009


"It is a neuromuscular medication "".... which follows my suggestion... that's what chiro's treat, and hence that's likely why it gives him some relief.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I'm not a big chiro fan, but they do have some good results in taking care of headaches. The problem theat chiros face is that people want the headache taken care of right away and maybe even get a little buzz for the effort.

Posted on April 27, 2009


Last year i bought oxycodone without prescription. 30 pills around 450k pesos. 40mg each ie the slow release one's . Mundipharma brand
The pharmacy didnt have them in stock but have to send for them by moto. This was in Bucaramanga.
With prescription shouldnt be a problem. Without it is a bit tricky...

Posted on April 27, 2009


Morphine substitute. Very Addictive. See a migraine specialist. There are drugs like cafergot and even Excedrin (tylenol, aspirin and caffeine mixed or mix your own like I do) that are better for headaches.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I don't want to go the morphine route all of my life I have had to take stronger drugs. Asprin worked when I was 10. When I start on Morphine, I fear I will be nearing the end. My headaches aren't as bad in Colombia and it may lead to me moving there for good. Maybe it's cause I'm usually there during the dry season at sea level with higher pressure.

I've done the migrane specialist thing a couple of years ago and they concluded that narcotics are the only route after I tried a bunch of expensive drugs that maybe worked the first time at best.

Posted on April 27, 2009


The poster was talking about Oxycodone which is Percocet. Are some of you guys thinking of OxyContin? That is the more powerful and habit forming painkiller.

Of course all Narcotic based Pain pills can be habit forming, just that atleast here in the US and Canada "Oxy" is iusually short for Oxy-Contin and is the strongest thing you can get next to Heroin.

Posted on April 27, 2009


Oxycodone is the active ingredient in Oxynorm (instant release) and Oxycontin (slow release). Nickname oxy
Percocet is Oxycodone mixed with acetaminophen.
All of them effective painkillers and all very addictive.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I'd assume he's already addicted Gredmar.

Posted on April 27, 2009


In Colombia, Oxycontin is about the strongest thing available. It is readily available in 10, 20 and 40 mg tablets. Once you have a script, you can buy it direct from the importer in Bogota (Tecnofarma) at Carrera 16 #85-96 or from La Liga Contra El Cancer at Calle 78 #12A-30. There are other pharmacies with Oxycontin but these places always have it in stock and have better pricing.

Liquid morphine drops are available with a script, MSIR tabs can't be easily had outside of a clinical setting. Time release morphine was available (US/Canada: Avinza, UK/Oz: MS Mono, Colombia: Meslon) but it was taken off the market. Time release morphine is a capsule containing many wax-covered bits of morphine. Different wax coverings act as the time release mechanism. A few fools injected the wax-covered bits and subsequently died from the wax, not from the morphine. So the Colombian government pulled it from the market. This was a really stupid move as Avinza/MSMono/Meslon is about the safest and least abused method for long term management of serious pain.

Fentanyl, Dilaudid, etc., in any form, are available only in a clinical setting. Have you considered getting Fentanyl patches in Canada or in the US? Nowadays a Fentanyl patch can last five days or more - and it won't come off in the shower or while swimming. Just shave & clean the area before applying the patch. Patches help avoid the opiate peak/trough cycle associated with many other delivery methods - plus, your tolerance will build slower with patches.

APAP/Vicodin 5/500 is available from most pharmacies but a prescription is usually required, here it is branded "Sinalgen". Some pharmacies will sell it without a prescription.

Tramadol is widely available (usually without a prescription) and is usually the first line pain med prescribed by Colombian physicians. Tramal Long is an extended release Tramadol tablet and is also available everywhere.

Good luck.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I recommend cannabis.

Posted on April 27, 2009


i had some wicked flu-like condition hit me in colombia about 2 years back. by the 2nd day, i could not get out of bed and thought i was having an aneurism my head hurt so bad. the headaches subsided after 2-3 days of taking scaflam (see link), but persisted in the evenings for almost 3 weeks. the scaflam is some of the best non-narcotic over the counter pain reliever (and fever reducer) i have ever used. i bought a large quantity right b4 i came back to the states. it works in conjunction with the liver somehow and is not sold in the states - fda would not approve it.

http://www.prescriptiondrug-info.com/drugs/scaflam.asp

Posted on April 27, 2009


For long term pain management, opiods are safest because they lack the organ toxicity issues of NASID's or paracetamol analgesics, even COX-2.

Of course, this assumes you don't overdose on opiods - in which case brain toxicity is the result!

Posted on April 27, 2009


start by changing one's diet...reduce the yin elements and the pain should subside naturally.

using opiates or anyof the modern synthetics for pain management, has serious drawbacks. first is the disruption of your digestive tract. you'll be lucky if you can take a dump every 2-5 days. second, and more serious, is that they are ALL habituative. one's great today, two or more are better on following days and so on.

and finally. the dependancy one develops on these substances is pernicious and one has to decide, finally, am i gonna do the "joneses" today or just keep putting it off. cold turkey is the best.

i broke my back years ago and was on serious pain management. i finally decided to 'tough it out' and get used to the fact that the broken/healed back was the one i had....and i either accepted it, got used to the pain and discomfort or spend a life on pain management along with 'spinal taps' and morphine/steroid injections until they hauled me off and threw me in a box.

i decided on no drugs and just cold turkied it and and never looked back. that is not to say, that over the years i didn't on many occassions resort to opiated pain control. i did, but it was very little and far between.

d

Posted on April 27, 2009


"brain toxicity"? uh, i think it is more like depression of the CNS which causes you to stop breathing.

- i was a little nervous the first few times of taking scaflam, but never had an issue with the drug. i do not think there is a better OTC drug for headaches and fever.

- i have a similar story, douglas. i would rather take opiates for occasional recreational use vs. long term therapeutic value.

Posted on April 27, 2009


ww for recreational party favors, opiates be damned. after years in iran and their fascination with 'teriac' and experiencing what a fricken downer it is, i'm amazed that ANYONE would choose it as a recreational drug. for myself, give me some thing stimulating, upleveling, revealing, inspirational, etc. opiates? fuck no. not for this old fart.

Posted on April 27, 2009


Ritalin?

Posted on April 27, 2009


is that a recommendation by a satisfied user, robert? not familiar with it.

are you on skype?

pm me and we can chat.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I have to go to work. But I'll admit I sampled Ritalin back in '88 a few times. My little sister was on it. In my high school substance studies class, I saw it was on the list of amphetimines / stimulants. So I thought, "that must be good stuff." I tried it, and it was awesome. Best feeling in the world. I later read somewhere it produces a similar high for a "normal" person that cocaine does. That's why I never tried, nor never will cocaine. I would be an instant addict.

Douglas, I'll look you up later. I have to open up the store. Be back tonight.

Posted on April 27, 2009


cool, bro.

i always donated my body to science with few regrets....ritalinize me!

Posted on April 27, 2009


Ritalin has nothing to do with pain relief. It is the principal drug given to children with ADD or ADHD. Of course with so manu children on PBH it might be something worthwhile to dispene to many people in here, but not for adults. The medical name is Methylphenidate. It is a commonly prescribed psychostimulant and treats lethargy, depression and obesity. It has nothing to do with pain.

People like Jorge are being either foolish or dangeous recommending something they know nothing about. I only hope that people ccehck out any meds befor you take them or see your doctor. The dosgae in some medications also depend on your weight, eating habits, use of other meds and allergies to other meds. There are many potential negative side abuses and it can casue severe health problems when not taken correftly. In short, it is an fing dangerous drug not in any way used for pain reief with is the topic of this thread. Rialin...good grief?

Posted on April 27, 2009


Rikito, where did I "recommend" Ritalin for pain. I never did, never would. I was responding to Douglas and trying to be a little funny - albeit off of topic.

Posted on April 27, 2009


And I probably don't know as much as you do as far as drugs go - hence the reason I absolutely did NOT recommend the drug - for any reason. I was just sharing a 21 year old personal experience.

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But why even mention Ritalin. It has nothing to do with pain...it's not funny. Medications are a serious topic in here. One of the reasons many people come here is the cost of health care and medications. In the U.S. it can run up to $5,000USD or more for a simple problem. A lot of people are always on the lookout for cost effective pain meds. Like me...I have severe osteo arthritis in my neck, knees, and ankles; from my age, years of contact sports, fighting in two wars, being overweight. I am always looking for meds that can help me. It is in here that I finally found a cocktail mix that is not counteractive and does not cost too much. It took me two years to find that. I know of other people in here wit similar problems. Also, because I take tramadol and dovir for arthritis it may not be of any use for other people. The pain meds is not something to joke about. And Ritalin is not even close to the subject being discussed. Not many Colombians know of Ritalin or how dangerous it can be for adults. Many see the work Ritalin and read no further and go out and try and get some...if they can get it they will be in for a big surprise. Addiction to a psychotic children??s drug.

I never said you recommended anything. I just stated that it is dangerous to discuss something like this unless you have checked on it first that's all. It I offended you I apologize. I was not trying to offend anyone?sorry. There are so many people in PBH that are know it alls on every subject or they can't think of anything constructive to say about anything or anyone. And if you criticize them...oh boy, watch out for the diatribe. Also, people for some reason really have nothing valuable to say about the subject so they just go off topic and discuss anything (Like I am now I guess?guilty your honor)

Posted on April 27, 2009


I answered your question two posts above. But I will repeat: I was responding to a post from Douglas. And I will repeat, sorry for hijacking the thread - and upsetting you Rikito.

Posted on April 27, 2009


And you said " I never said you recommended anything." Bullshit, here are your own words typed above: "People like Jorge are being either foolish or dangeous recommending something they know nothing about"

Posted on April 27, 2009


ok...then I apologize...now get over it and have a beer.

Posted on April 27, 2009


or an oxy!

Posted on April 27, 2009


or an oxy with a beer!

Posted on April 27, 2009


well, now that the peace pipes out, i'll have a line, thank you.

Posted on April 27, 2009


I don't suggest doing any of it, but if you do..

Ritalin is caca....go for Adderall (Ritalin was 80's and Adderall is newer shit) if you are thinking of doing one of these controlled stimulants. It has a few (3 or 4) types of amphetamines (Ritalin has only 1) in it and you can just swallow and it lasts for 4 hours or so. A good steady focused heightening of the senses and mood. But then there is a crash on it as well. Simple as that. You will have to recover you cannot be spun up forever. Its basically clean and regulated doses of medical grade methamphetamine.

I know a professional individual who got on the Adderal when he was finishin his Law degree and made straight A's then went on to use it to "get ahead" in his field. So, now he is semi successful, but a complete wreck. This is a for real drug. When he is on it he does well, but now he relies on it. Without his Adderall he is a complete mess and you cannot even hold a conversation with the dude. I have know him many many years too so I know how he used to be and see him now. He is a professional with a meth problem basically...all with volatile outbursts, cofusion, delirium, paranoia...eveything. Sad really.

If you're gonna do that just get some coca..atleast with cocaine you get a Euphoria, with ritalin or adderral you just get excitable ust read everything in sight and get all studious.

Posted on April 27, 2009


Ok, I am over it Rikito. jaja / lol.

Posted on April 27, 2009