what's your favourite Colombian food

Rubiazo says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:27:

Ajiaco hands down.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:29:

I love ajiaco :)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:31:

easy sancocho de gallina estilo valluno, done on the fogon de leña. Yummy!!!
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:34:

I remember Desi I've had a sancocho de Gallina made in Chalan on the way to barranquilla on the fogon the leña and it was the best sancocho in my life, nothing can't beat that.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:38:

I'm not sure it's really a specifically Colombian food and I hate to admit it but I've developed a taste for fried plantains. I used to hate them but they served them so much I actually started to like them. Now I miss them if a week goes by without them. Go figure.

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Lucia Rojas says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:42:

Ajiaco and frijoles paisas, with chicharoon, arepa, aguactae, patacon, carne molida, arroz....hogao..etc. yummy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:45:

many people get put off by morcillas, here in England they call it Black pudding, I quite like them.

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Rubiazo says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:56:

I dont like morcilla here or lechon. Why the hell do they feel the need to put rice in there and dry it all out like that?
I had some morcilla that was flown in from Argentina once. DAMNNNNNN that was good!
Another thing I love here are the chorizos and the genovas!
And the two giants of Bogota chain restaurants, El Rey de Pollo and El Corral.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:59:

So when people see it, do they ask, "Hey, what is this shit?"

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 15:59:

morcillas I don't want to know what they made off, but they taste nice, I heard that genovas sometimes where made of dog meat.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:00:

Is eating the dog meat genovas ruff? Ruff?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:01:

yes UC you are mocking me around ;-)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:01:

morcillas with yellow plantain uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:18:

You give as good as you get, Kat. My kind of woman.

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utopiacowboy says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:18:

You give as good as you get, Frigging %^*%$&^ mouse.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:21:

you'r having mouse trouble? me too, mine's doing double every time.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:23:

I've got an optical and it's still acting up.
Cheers,
Desi
(I know you were talking to UC)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:24:

let's go and back to DOS

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:34:

UC EH?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:37:

mario Eh?
The only I know is I've got windows XP, broadband and a dirty keyboard and mouse that it's ball is stuck ( no rudeness in there please)

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Dan says on Sep 10, 2005, 16:58:

Let's see here. My all time favorite is Bandeja Paisa. I love it.
I also like Ajiaco. One thing I like, that most people think I'm crazy for eating is Mondongo(not sure about spelling). I don't think it's too bad but the people I work with when I travel to Colombia refer to it as "Fear Factor Soup". I also like the arroz con leche.

God Bless America!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 10, 2005, 17:02:

Thanks mario I tried and now it's running like a ball free mouse it's good.
Dan I love Mondongo, I know many people don't like it but I DO. the only things I hate is Pork,pajarilla soup, and liver.
ah and cui (sp)that horrible animal from pasto

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adrimm says on Sep 10, 2005, 17:25:

Agree with Kat1 I absolutely LOOOOVE Morcillas (and then obleas for desert).
mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Dan says on Sep 10, 2005, 17:34:

kat I think many people judge Mondongo by looking at it before they ever try it. I talked someone at work to at least try it before saying he won't eat it. That's one thing my step-mom is crazy about... "Try it before you say you don't like it". My wife likes it too.

God Bless America!

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Gomezman5 says on Sep 10, 2005, 19:01:

No suprise from this Colombian/Bogotano A J I A C O Santafereno ...with all the goodies, capers, avacado, and cream. Oh I am so depressed. I wish I was in BOG now for a big portion (the entire pot). And you all can say what you want, but sorry, the best Ajiaco is exacty where it's from..Bogota.

For dessert:

Brevas con arequipe con queso....Delicious !!!!

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YTO SAN says on Sep 10, 2005, 19:34:

BANDEJA PAISA Bandeja Paisa with Claro or Mazamorra in the side. and some empanadas de queso

=======YTO SAN

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sen says on Sep 10, 2005, 20:24:

It is Cazuela de Mariscos.
Nothing can beat it.

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kernow62 says on Sep 10, 2005, 21:10:

Gosh, who could choose just one dish. Ajiaco Santafereño is a favourite (I will pass on the capers though), so is sancocho de gallina, I love sopa de platano, sopa de pan, sobrebarriga al horno (this one reminds me a bit of English cooking), pandebono, empanadas, pernil de cerdo, papas salada, Juan Valerio (haven't had these but they sound yummy), ternera a la llanera (the best meat I have eaten), all of the fruits and juices.

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adrimm says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:12:

English cuisine I have heard also that it undergoing quite a change, thanks in part to influence from the massive multicultural populations in London and other larger urban centres. I can personally vouch for for the British curries, which have amazing full flavour, yet manageable spice levels.

Off the top of my head the two most famous British chefs i know of are Nigella Lawson and Jamie Oliver (the Naked Chef).

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Empress554 says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:13:

Bandeja Paisa with jugo de Mora! mmmmmmmm

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Elbigie says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:35:

what's your favourite Colombian food?
In that order:

1. Tamales Tolimenses
2. Ajiaco Santafere~o
3. Lechona Tolimense
4. Bandeja paisa

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quindioman says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:51:

mario your 14 year old stepson has a point.
The English were never known for their prowess in the kitchen...however there are English chefs that are very very good.
Gordon Ramsay would be one name that springs to mind, he runs a few restaurants but the main one is the one that shares his name in Hospital Road Chelsea, but I believe that his crown is being challenged by the mercurial talent that is Heston Blumenthal...his restaurant The Fat Duck in Brey has just been awarded its 3rd Michelin star and apparently the only restaurant that beats the Fat Duck is El Bulli just outside of Barcelona...I would be what little I have in that your stepson is talking about one of these 2 chefs.
There are so many chefs however that it really is becoming a paradise for diners with discerning tastes.
Gary Rhodes continues to champion British cooking and has done much for it...Angela Hartnett and Marcus Wareing are starting to emerge from Gordon Ramsay's shadow.
Nigella Lawson is a very pretty TV cook...and Jamie Oliver has done a lot for homeless kids...I particularly like his fresh approach to cooking (even though he has been overexposed on our TV screens)

As to the original post. I do like a nice Bandeja Paisa, and for snacking I can't get enough of Papas Rellenas.
Sopa de mondongo I haven't tried in AGES, but I did like a bowl whenever it was on the menu. Lechona is very scrumptious...I absolutely adore the ceviches....Morcilla (we call it rellena) not bad at all but you can count me out of pajarilla, boje, rinon, higado...bleuugghhhhh....makes me sick just thinking about these meats ...I used to eat lengua but I have noticed that I no longer eat it when my mum prepares it at home.
I love a bowl of frijoles con cerveza y arrozito....lentejas con arroz tanbien. My mum does a mean cazuela de mariscos and she has them special black bowls the're meant to be served in...matter of fact she does a trucha to die for (well that sauce that accompanies the trout certainly is to die for).
My stomach is starting to rumble with all this food talk

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quindioman says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:56:

kat my girlfriend loves changua...i've never had it myself.....I think its's a dish strictly from Boyaca...I have never seen changua in Armenia.
On the caldo de gallina..I was never a big fan of caldo/sancocho de gallina, but I absolutely adore un sancocho normal con papas, yucca, platano y colita hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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quindioman says on Sep 10, 2005, 23:57:

and don't forget the cilantro!!!!!!!!!!!!! ese sancocho no le va quedar lo mismo sin cilantrico

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aztec says on Sep 11, 2005, 01:35:

favourite Colombian food Ajiaco in Bogotá.

Mario you don't look old enough for DOS. Always envied those people who could make their way around the PC with DOS. I was born too late to ever have the innate feel for the machine that the young people now have! I just punch buttons on the pc until something good happens.

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kernow62 says on Sep 11, 2005, 05:00:

OFF TOPIC DOS:

If you use Windows it is still handy to know DOS to get the most out of your PC. Windows 9X is basically just a GUI for DOS. Believe it or not we use 3 DOS programs at work that do have equivalent Windows versions, but DOS doesn't crash, and the programming isn't bloated so they actually outperform their Windows counterparts.

back on topic.

Cilantro is vital as quindioman says for sancocho as much as guascas is for ajiaco. I use cilantro in a lot of cooking, often just chopping a bit and sprinkling it on to whatever I am eating. Does anybody know if guascas is used for any other cooking other than ajicao?

Off topic again:

Kat1 as for British chefs, they are actually nothing new, prior to the hardships of the WW2 Britain's chefs were quite good and creative, unfortunately they were primarily the realm of the wealthy patrons of grand hotels, or employed by wealthy families. The average person's food was nothing much, each family scrimped and saved to do a Sunday roast and that remained the same and lead to the poor reputation of British cooking. I thought sobrebarriga al horno was much like a Sunday roast. In the countryside the British cooking was always quite good, lots of fresh fruit and veg, good meat and poultry, fresh fish, but when visitors came to England they hit London, and that was a different matter indeed.

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kernow62 says on Sep 11, 2005, 05:11:

Question for all you Colombian cooks, what is platano colí (sp) ?

Supposedly used for sopa de platano.

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kernow62 says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:36:

Did a GOOGLE for platano coli and nothing comes up, so perhaps I heard my mother-in-law incorrectly. She says it is a plantain that is shorter than a normal one, she could find them in Bogotá but not in Orlando. Anyway, I am going to make my sopa today using regular green plantains.

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quindioman says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:38:

you get googlewhacked if you type "platano coli"

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kernow62 says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:46:

platano colisero, let me try that in GOOGLE.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:51:

sounds like guineo by the prescription you gave. Guineo might be a word for it that's just used around Cali area. They used to make sopa or sancocho de guineo at my in-law's in Cali.

Cheers,
Desi

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quindioman says on Sep 11, 2005, 06:52:

trust desi to get the answer...guineo sounds like what you are looking for Kernow

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flaleo says on Sep 11, 2005, 08:13:

my girl made me something called sudadao or something like that - it was like a sancocho but more like a stew instead of a soup... oh, and without cilantro.

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quindioman says on Sep 11, 2005, 08:34:

el famoso sudao' as it's known to every Colombian that's cooked this (sudado as in "sweated" lol). My mum does a nice sudao' de pollo..she uses tomatoes and potatoes and of course it's served on a bed of rice round here but it can be like a stew as you mentioned flaleo and you are quite right..the sudao' isn't normally prepared with cilantro.

To anyone interested in preparing eggs for breakfast. Here's a quick recipe for colombian scrambled eggs known as "perico" however this word perico has quite a few meanings...if you ask for a "perico" in Bogota you will be presented with a coffee with milk...ask someone else still and they might be thinking you're asking for cocaine.

Ingredients:
eggs (huevos...the nice white ones!) - i use 2 or 3 per person
spring onion/scallion (cebolla larga/verde...cebolla de huevo is the normal round onion)
tomatoes
a bit of vegetable oil but i prefer butter (NOT margarine)

method:
chop your onions and tomatoes and place in the pan (which you should have hot but not overly). let those babies sizzle for a while and when you're good and ready put the eggs in and stir...just imagine you are scrambling the eggs....oh I am scrambling the eggs?
constantly stir the mixture until the eggs are cooked...at the end the scrambled eggs should have a reddish hue to them and it'll also be speckled at random by the shiny green spring onions...season with a dash of salt...enjoy!
My brother prefers a nice calentao' for breakfast lol...
guys and girls..if your other half gives you un calentao for breakfast you know you're eating last nights leftovers..lol...but it does taste surprisingly nice....ingredients are optional jejeje

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 11, 2005, 12:18:

Platano Coli Patano coli is a very small green platano, it taste like the normal green platano but a bit sweeter and a bit more moist. it tends to make the soup a bit thicker. the taste is slightly different from a normal green platano
Guineo it's different, on the coats we call guineo a very small banana

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 11, 2005, 13:18:

Mojarra frita is my favourite too, pity I can't get it here in England.
And my homemade coconut rice is hopless :-(

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vladimiro says on Sep 11, 2005, 15:49:

My mother in law makes a delicious stuffed lengua. Sudao' de pollo stew served ontop of rice is one of my favorites, too, and its a nice break from fried food everyday. By the way, the Enlgish make good steak and kidney pie, but the best English food by far is an Indian curry.

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soccerstud says on Sep 11, 2005, 16:33:

definately mote de queso is my all time favorite. and for those of u who don't know morcilla is dried up blood. that's nasty.

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Miguel says on Sep 11, 2005, 18:39:

I'm with kat1 and GIB Mojarra frita, el queso blanco de Barranquilla, y yucca frita...entre otros.

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Miguel says on Sep 11, 2005, 18:40:

And for dessert Arequipe.

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emero says on Sep 12, 2005, 02:21:

I love arepas and some nice things I got at the Colombian cafe in Elephant & Castle south London, I just point as I'm too shy to ask what they are:
look like round,kinda flattish pancakey things either with eggs or cheese (I'm vegetarian, but they might have other fillings) When I was in London last week , I bought 40 arepas (we freeze them as there is no where to buy them locally).

Me and my son had a glassful of tropical fruits in juice, which was very refreshing as it was a hot day.


hugs Diane x

hugs Diane x

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NorwegianMale says on Sep 12, 2005, 02:34:

My favorite colombian food is: *blank*

Only thing I dont like about Colombia is the food.

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thur says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:03:

This summer... This summer (I was in Bogotá six weeks) I ate a lot of morcilla (mmm!), longaniza and lengua! I also liked very much sopa de menudo I believe it is called and well... pepitoria was "ok". A few pics of the plates can be seen in my online album ( www.pbase.com/thur ).

- www.pbase.com/thur

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nanis says on Sep 12, 2005, 08:14:

I love seafood i come from a black family and that's what they eat all the time i love sancocho de pescao with coconut milk and lots of lemon juice and big fried green plantains on the side. rice and coconut is good too, tamales tolimenses, empanadas, papa rellenas, bandeja paisa, ajiaco, lechona, ullucos are my favourite i don't know if i spelled that right. i cook sudao all the time it's fast and easy to make and delicious

deserts: champus valluno, fruit salad and rice pudding a lo colombiano! manjarblanco and arequipe!!!!! yummy

att: la gata salvaje ;)

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taliolarte says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:48:

sancocho de mondongo arroz con coco, caribanolas, arepa de huevo, arroz de liza, sancocho de sabalo, chicharron con yuca frita, mote de name con queso.....im hungry

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taliolarte says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:55:

se me olvido yuca consuero, guineo verde sancochado, cocadas, carne esmechada, patacon, bocachico frito, bolas de tamarindo, jugo de mango...............

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oldbongo says on Sep 12, 2005, 09:56:

you costenos are delicious, but you gotta get onna plane to your colombian san andres and eat stewed conks with real coconut rice and fried breadfuit at san luis.
or,. rondon,.. ultimate caribbean food.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:14:

are there a lot of jobs in san andres, old gringo

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oldbongo says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:20:

my dear lady.. you are asking a retarded jewel thief.

what does an oldgringo know about jobs?

J O B.............just over broke.

enough to keep you coming back,
....but not enough to leave.

do you want to work there?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:24:

I wish I could

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oldbongo says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:30:

why not??? you could deal blackjack in the casino.

i'd play.

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elmodefoque says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:34:

taliorate, you mentioned all my favorite food to eat, i just need to add sopa de guandul, and huevo de iguana con ron.

Old Gringo, my man, is great to see your ass around. i'll be in cartagena and curramba all of february.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:41:

Sopa de coliseo (colisero) SOPA DE COLICEO
Ingredientes para 4 personas
agua, 8 tazas
costilla de ternera, 250 gramos


cilantro, 1 ramita
cebolleta, 1 unidad


plátano(coliceo), 8 unidades
papa criolla, 250 gramos


papa pastusa, 250 gramos
guisante, 125 gramos


sal, al gusto




FICHA DE LA RECETA
Calorias:
Concepto: SOPAS Y CREMAS
Coste: MEDIO
Dificultad: MEDIA
Método: TRADICIONAL
Origen: COLOMBIA
Tiempo: 1 hora
Tipo: PRIMERO
ELABORACIÓN

Calentar el agua en una cazuela e incorporar la costillas, el cilantro, la cebolla y sal al gusto. Dejar cocer a fuego medio 30 minutos. Remover de vez en cuando.




Pelar y lavar los plátanos coliceros con salmuera (agua y sal). Cortarlos con una cuchara de madera, sacando tajadas que se asemejan a cucharadas y reservar. Partir las dos clases de papas en cubos medianos. Poner el colicero en el caldo y dejar hervir por 10 minutos para que se deshaga. Pasado este tiempo añadir las papas y las arvejas. Dejar cocinar por 20 minutos a fuego medio. Revolver de tanto en tanto. Servir bien caliente con un poco de hogao o ají criollo por encima.

There's plenty of references to plátano colicero at Google. It seems to be another variety than guineo, even if some references give both the same name.

Musa acuminata Colla (AAA Group) cv. 'Dwarf Cavendish'
SPANISH: Banano enano, Guineo enano (Colombia), Camburi pigmeo (Venezuela), Cachaco, Cuatrofilos, Colicero, Carapé, Popocho.

http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Musa.html#AAB.Bung

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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oldbongo says on Sep 12, 2005, 10:42:

u2 kid.. maybe we'll just have to deliver that photo en persona.

what a long strange trip it's been....( j. garcia)

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kernow62 says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:45:

Thanks Desi, so is platano coli the same as colisero? I am getting confused. No matter, I can't find the buggers here anyway.

My sopa de platano turned out very edible if not authentic, I am a lazy cook. I also don't measure ingredients, so things change a bit each time I make it.

I used stew beef only about a pound (we don't eat much meat)and sauteed it with garlic, black pepper, salt, and cilantro. Then I added two cups of water and simmered until the meat was tender. I chopped up one large platano verde into small cubes and an equal amount of yucca at same size cubes. In a blender I mixed 2 more platanos with a bit of chicken stock until it was a paste, I then added 2 quarts of chicken stock to the beef as well as all the other ingredients and brought the whole mess to a boil, stirring constantly. Then I turned down to a low simmer, popped a lid on and left it to cook for about an hour, possibly more (I don't own a watch). The consistency was a bit thick so I stirred in 2 cups of water. I chopped up a bit of fresh cilantro on top as I served it.

There is another vegetable I was supposed to add (it begins with an "a") but I couldn't remember the name when I was at the shops. My mother-in-law adds celery which I don't care for much.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:53:

a-veggie would be ahuyama (also called zapallo), a pumpkin variety. Good in soups.
Yes, I believe plátano coli is just short for colisero, also called dwarf plantain, (guineo or comino) in Colombia.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kernow62 says on Sep 12, 2005, 11:57:

So are you saying coli is or isn't the same as guineo? My mother-in-law is from Bogota and platano coli is the term she uses.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:08:

I'm not sure, kernow People use different names for the same varieties of fruit and vegetables depending from which area you come from. I had personally never heard the word plátano coli in my life (with all my domestic experience there, never heard the word in the markets, stores, from anybody who cooks or buys food) so it's fairly safe to say that the guineo is probably the same variety. Sopa de guineo is a Colombian classic from the Valle del Cauca region but from the recipe I copied it seems to be exactly the same soup as sopa de colisero. Unless I can find good photos of both varieties I will continue thinking it's the same variety just under a different name.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kernow62 says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:29:

Where's Lionheart when you need him, he probably knows.

What about Platano, do you know you kindered platanos by family?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:30:

kernow did you get my pm, this is from a reliable source :-)

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kernow62 says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:34:

Yes dear, I got the message. I agree with you.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:37:

just got a word from a friend of mine who's bogotano (very reliable source; he's a walking encyclopedia and university professor, plus a linguist, historian and a poet) he says: it's the plátano jartón, pero bien verde.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:44:

no, desi I am sorry platano jarton is a big platano, platano coli is a very small platano, it's not good for sancochos and tajadas, you can use it but it's not as good as a normal green platano, it's taste a bit different i would say slightly, I think they use it in soup because it thickens it. and guineo is a very tiny banana call too manzano you can eat it, it's like a fruit. my mum used to buy a lot of coli and she is the queen for eating guineos she loves then.I remember buying coli on the shops they always comes in a bunch like the guineos.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:49:

kat, I believe my friend the know-it-all is wrong too. I've asked a bunch of Colombian friends in guayabo (a yahoogroup)we have several agronomos there and I'm waiting for the answers.
I'm sure you're right, kat, however guineo and manzano are counted among plátano varieties in the sources I've cited. It might well be a case of my caleño in-laws and family there using different names for the same things, or just simply using wrong names. I was just saying that I never heard the word in Cali in all those years I lived there.

Cheers,
Desi

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:54:

yes they may used different name, like we, on the coast of colombia call Sandia, Patilla. and yes guineo can be count as platano but really they are very small bananas i would say 6cm long max, so the platano coli

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greenday says on Sep 12, 2005, 12:57:

this is... the best thread EVER!!!

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Crazy Eagle says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:02:

any lamb dishes? Well? Do they eat lamb in Colombia? If so, that dish is my favorite.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:05:

Greenday hi Greenday how was your trip, and what kind of Colombia food did you taste while you were there.:-)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:09:

lamb? Not in Cali, anyway. They do eat goat dishes in Santander and on the coast, I've heard. You can probably get cordero (chops and steaks) at the big supermarkets that sell gringo food. (Carrefour, for example)

Cheers,
Desi

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greenday says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:11:

kat1 my trip was great!! My favorite food??? I think it was "lengua de morena"...

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greenday says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:14:

hey Kat1 & Desi?? Why are you two so obsessed with platanos?? Is it some kind of fetish?? What about pepinos??

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:15:

ohh I'm sure you enjoyed that.

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greenday says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:18:

If you REALLY want me to be serious... besides the lengua de morena...I do love sancocho de gallina, also had langostinos al aguardiente...also I love the steaks in Colombia, more tender and tastier than those in the states...

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cam0940 says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:23:

Favorite Colombian food is... I'd have to say... McDonald's.

Other things were good but my food vocabulary is THEE worst.

I had no idea what a sancocho was and my host had no idea what an Egg McMuffin was, so I guess that makes us even.

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sydneygirl says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:40:

pandebonos!!! are the best!

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sydneygirl says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:41:

Pandebonos!! Guava and queso are my favorites. Warm out of the little oven the texture and taste....I wish i knew how to make them....but im sure my butt is glad I dont! he he

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 12, 2005, 13:46:

Chao XI know what you mean Sy I know what you mean Sydneygirl, they are delicious,in Villavicencio outside alkosto they sell them, nice and warm some of them fill with bocadillo, I have to hold myself not to eat to many otherwise I will end up looking like one of them.-)

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greenday says on Sep 12, 2005, 14:27:

yeah right Kat How do we know you don't look like one now??? I mean, all the pics I have seen of you have been head shots... Post some full body shots in your photo gallery...I'm very curious...also a pic or two in a thong bikini would be great too!!

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tomtom33 says on Sep 12, 2005, 14:34:

GD Need the thong bikini to check for tattoos?

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Rubiazo says on Sep 12, 2005, 16:09:

I had sopa de coli here at a restaurant in La Primavera. Lunch there was 2500. They gave me all this starch and ONE skinny little chicken leg. I told them charge me another 1000 and bring some more damn chicken!
The soup was good but I really don't like anything from the platano family to being with. Too dry for me.
One thing they had that i really liked was calabazín, chopped and slow-cooked calabazas (little pumpkins) with butter and spices.

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kernow62 says on Sep 12, 2005, 17:57:

If a plantain is mushed up in a soup it isn't dry.

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Rubiazo says on Sep 12, 2005, 21:04:

it was in slices and it was dry. They also put potatoes in yeesshhh. Everything was tasty but man, so much starch! I musta had like 2500 calories sitting in front of me just in starch!

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SweetNess says on Sep 12, 2005, 22:42:

??? What's Ajiaco?

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SweetNess says on Sep 12, 2005, 22:42:

? What's Ajiaco?

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SweetNess says on Sep 12, 2005, 22:50:

Platano Maduro Well, we just call it maduro in my house. My favorite way to have it is to take one that is turning black and fry it whole. Then cut it lengthwise down the middle and stuff it with a slice of mozzarella cheese. mmmmmmmmm The gooier and greasier and ickier, the better.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 13, 2005, 01:30:

Yeah Right Gday I leave the thongs for your Caleñas dolls.

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quindioman says on Sep 13, 2005, 02:24:

sweetness ajiaco is a Rolo dish....I never knew anything about ajiaco before I came to PBH, but I was asking my mum the other day for guascas needed to prepare the ajiaco and she said you can't even get guascas in Armenia...definately a Bogota thing...she lived there in La Castellana for a couple of years. The Ajiaco itself is kinda like a soup/stew with chicken corn on the cob and some other things....if oyu go by some people's responses you might be able to deduce that it's quite tasty....don't know about the capers though.

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kernow62 says on Sep 13, 2005, 05:41:

quindioman, guascas actually grow wild all over England, well maybe not London, but any waste bit of ground that can support the growth of nettles will also support guascas. It is a weed and a member of the aster family. However you should be able to get dried guascas (Kiskas Brand) in London. Just don't smoke it all before you get home!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 13, 2005, 07:46:

kat, you do know your platanos girl! From the largest hartones to the tiniest manzanos y guayabos with colis and guineos and all the rst of them in the middle:)

Platanoledge:
Hartón verde, pintón , maduro
Dominico idem.
guineo, cortito, gordito, mas dukce que el hartón, verde para sopas, maduro puede comerse crudo
colí (colicero) del mismo tamaño de guineo, mas flaco, sabor mas ácido, se usa solamente en sopas
manzano mas dulce se come crudo cuando maduro
guayabo
popocho
comino

Nota: el uso de los nombres tiene grandes variaciones regionales. El guineo verde remplaza el colí en el Valle, aunque el sabor es diferente (guineo da un sabor agridulce, colí unsabor más acido a la sopa)

Cheers,
Desi

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kernow62 says on Sep 13, 2005, 12:31:

Damn Desi, where did you find all that? Mystery solved.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 13, 2005, 12:47:

haha kernow, I got some help from a bunch of Colombian agrónomos and other Colombian expats living in the States but hailing from Bogotá. They've been working hard for me for 24 hrs now so that I can tell the real truth about colí plantains to a Cornishman:) BTW, kat knew all along most of this stuff...while my platanoledge was really very limited.

Another thing I was just told is that colí platanos aren't good for anything else, except the soup and that they were originally brought to B/tá from the Llanos.

Cheers,
Desi

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cali373 says on Sep 13, 2005, 12:48:

Ajiaco!

Smile if you are a thinker!

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kernow62 says on Sep 13, 2005, 13:02:

Thanks Desi. I reckon I could whip up a Cornish pasty with a bit of yuca and platano, a nice bit of beef and an onion. Don't sound half bad. Do they grow turnips/swedes/rutabega in Colombia?

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quindioman says on Sep 13, 2005, 14:22:

hey kernow those Cornish pasties with a bit of yucca and platano don't sound too bad...mind you...you can't improve much on the normal cornish pastie....very very yummy....
very interesting comment on the guascas...i'll be on the lookout for them.....and you shouldn't have told me you can smoke these things.....you know I make Cheech & Chong look tame....

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carter says on Sep 13, 2005, 17:42:

Chhhhurrrrooooos Churros

everyday the kids come down my street screaming Chhurrossssss

delicious

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Rubiazo says on Sep 13, 2005, 17:50:

Desi ask your friends what kinda foods would be IMPOSSIBLE to grow in Bogotá. I'd imagine you could grow just about anything here but I dunno that much about the soil. I know lots of fruits won't grow anywhere in Brazil because the soil is so acidic.

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kernow62 says on Sep 13, 2005, 18:00:

quindioman, I am not sure you can smoke guascas, but I figured if anyone might light one up on the way home from the shops it would be you. ;-)

Interesting thing about the Cornish pasty it has travelled to many areas where Cornish miners worked, for instance it is popular in UP Michigan, and in parts of Wisconsin, but also in Pachuca Mexico, of course with local ingredients. The same is true of the empanada in Chile which uses wheat flour and meat, potato and onion, so it is similar to a Cornish pasty, there was a large Cornish population in Chile in the copper mining regions so it is quite possible the humble Cornish pasty influenced the empanadas in the region.

God I am getting hungry now, I think I will ring mum up and see if she can whip up a batch this weekend.

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NicolasaA2 says on Sep 14, 2005, 11:17:

empanadas & papa rellena from Cali.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 14, 2005, 12:43:

empanadas from Cali with ají pique, tamales vallunos (aren't the ones from Tolima made with rice? UGH!), empanaditas de pipián with salsa de maní, sancocho caleño en fogón de leña, marranitas, manjarblanco.

Kernow, I haven't seen rutabagas/swedes in Colombia, only the smaller cousin called nabo (can't think of the name in English).

Cheers,
Desi

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kernow62 says on Sep 14, 2005, 15:06:

radish?

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kernow62 says on Sep 14, 2005, 18:04:

Desi the veg that begins with an "a" is Arracacha, whatever that is. In the phtos it looks like a parsnip. yuk

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adrimm says on Sep 14, 2005, 20:51:

Rice in empanadas You mean they don't typically have rice in them throughout Colombia? All the ones I've had have *had* rice.... what is used instead of rice - potato?

mmmmm Cornish pastry..

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 14, 2005, 21:06:

no, not radish it's a sort of turnip, but smaller than swede.
Arracacha, yes, I hate that stuff too.
Adri, neither the empanada or el tamal valluno have rice in them. It's the yellow potato (papa amarilla) or the papa colorada that is used instead. In my opinion, much, much tastier.

(Sheeet....I'v got to get ready for work...)

Have a lovely day,
Desi

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kernow62 says on Sep 15, 2005, 04:30:

Adrimm I have to agree with Desi, the best empanadas are the ones with papas. In fact I never knew they put rice in them until I had one, it was horrible. It is pasty, not pastry.

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SweetNess says on Sep 15, 2005, 04:35:

rice well, I've had both empanadas with and without rice and I love them both. My mom raised us on empanadas made of rice, ground beef, boiled egg, cheese, and seasoned w/ salt, pepper, and the usual green pepper, red pepper, and onion. She even makes a Tuna version and it's delicious. If you didn't like your pastynanda kernow, you musta had the wrong one... Ain't nothing pasty about these.

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kernow62 says on Sep 15, 2005, 06:10:

You are right sweetness, to be fair it was at the end of the day and they had more than likely been under the heat lamp for the better part of a few hours. The rice seemed to be the main ingredient, so it was a very dry empanada. I will give them another try.

How about a kedgeree empanada, kippers, egg and rice with curry in an empanada? Nah maybe not.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 15, 2005, 09:29:

pasty like in pasty gringos?

Another favorite dish from Cali (cocina valluna) is the aborrajada, yummy! (Two slices of maduro fried in oil, a slice of cheese in the middle, enveloped in dough and re-fried in oil)

Cheers,
Desi

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kernow62 says on Sep 15, 2005, 10:18:

yes, the spelling is the same Desi, but pasty gringo the "a" is long. In the food it is pronounced differently. The pasty (food) is considerably larger than the empanada.

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Mediterraquest says on Sep 15, 2005, 11:08:

comidaaaaaaaaaa Bollo de mazorca con queso
arroz con coco
ajiaco
empanadas
bunyuelos
pandebonos
kumis casero
charlie's roastbeef
perro caliente, chuzo desgranado y mazorca desgranada de javier en barranquilla...

*drool*
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raymuli says on Sep 21, 2005, 18:03:

the best Mote de Queso from the Sincelejo area. YUMMMMMY!!!!! Con yuca frita es sabrosa!

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Rubiazo says on Sep 21, 2005, 19:07:

Ajiaco sin guascas? My gf cooks ajiaco with cilantro instead of guascas. I guess not everybody uses guascas. It is delicious BTW. Part of what sucks about ajiaco in the USA is that the dairy products are horrible so the cream just doesnt taste the same.

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