What is it exactly that determines who is considered a Gringo?

Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 12:46:

Oh no, not this topic again!

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dwr says on Apr 3, 2008, 12:49:

Not sure I've ever seen a thread asking this question Simon? For example you.... do you consider yourself a gringo? You were born in Colombia but you obviously write fluent English so I would guess you speak as well. Are you a gringo Simon?

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 12:51:

No, I am not. And 'Gringo' is just a colloquial term for somone from the US.

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kalder says on Apr 3, 2008, 12:57:

I don't mind retreading a conversation...You are (as a rule of thumb) called a 'gringo' if whomsoever proferred the name, considers you to be a better specimen of manhood than they are.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 12:59:

wow!

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kalder says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:00:

I know- hard to believe ain't it? True mind.

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:02:

That's the best definition of the word that I have ever heard.

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dwr says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:06:

Kalder. That is brilliant!

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:10:

The word gringo is mainly used for someone born in the US, very stereotypical: blonde hair, blue eyes, tall, white skin (you know the pink kind =D). Now days, it is also used for Europeans since a lot of them fit the description.

African-Americans are not called gringos, nor are Asians or Latinos. Even if they were born in the US, they're not considered gringos.

Diana

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Bluesdude says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:22:

I am a gringo, and I will always be a gringo, and I'm proud of it!!! I will never fit in even though I am part of a Colombian family. I will always get stares that run from hostility and prejudice to curiousity and friendliness. I like it. We gringos are muy cheverie! especialmente gringos viejos. We are modest too!

Bluesdude No Mas Gringas Por La Vida

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:24:

That's exactly how we should all feel about where we come from no matter where we're at.

I don't care what they say about you gringos, you're good peeps. XD

Diana

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:39:

My paisa friends in Medellin call a paisa neighbor who lived in the US for a few years gringo.

El gringo this, el gringo that, they say when speaking about him.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:40:

"My paisa friends in Medellin call a paisa neighbor who lived in the US for a few years gringo."

Now that's just plain ignorance and/or envy.

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 3, 2008, 13:49:

My family calls me that only when they're making fun of me. Usually happens when I'm stuck on not knowing how to say something in Spanish. Hey, it happens. =\

Diana

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:00:

i prefer cracker ;)

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:05:

Simon says, ""My paisa friends in Medellin call a paisa neighbor who lived in the US for a few years gringo."" mt quote

Now that's just plain ignorance and/or envy."

Sorry but latin culture allows for you to call anyone anything you like; el gordo, el negro, la negra, moco, mocon, prieto, el loco, flaco, la gordita, ect.... I don't see how gringo is any different. I did not even give it any thought when I first heard them refer to him as el gringo because I was aware of the fact that he lived in the USA.

The gringos at my work refer to themselves as crackers.

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jonas says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:06:

as in galleta salada?

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

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jack_jason says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:07:

well, I do not consider a gringo some one with mexican face (indigenous), even if he or she has been born in the states. but, wen I see a guy with red neck and red face with short trousers with pockets all around, hawaian shirt, sun glasses and a back pack walking in the center of bogota in a gray day. Then I realise, oh shit, that guy is from the states. he is a real gringo.

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:08:

But the people who are called 'flaco', 'gordo', etc. tend to be skinny, fat, etc. The paisa who lived in the USA is still a paisa.

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:08:

Even mico, no??

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:09:

they call gringo anyone who speak English...

My kids and husband have been called Gringos to their annoyance as they are English...

but I told them Aqui en Colombia todo el mundo que hable medio enredao es gringo hehehhe

engage brain before opening mouth

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jonas says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:14:

now I wonder if MT, when talking to his neighbors refers to that particular neighbor as "gringo". That would be kinda funny

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

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Juanes says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:28:

katita, puedes explicame el sentido de las palabras 'medio enredao'....en ingles por favor

here in colombia everyone in the world that speaks half.....es un gringo.....

muichas gracias parce..

simon, quizas, soy un eurogringo o euringo pero la verdad es papi yo prefiero mono o rubio

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:35:

Juanes,

Enredao = Enredado = Tangled up.

Medio enredao = All tangled up.

Diana

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:47:

jonas, no don't call neighbors gringos, but do call a few of my co-workers crackers!

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Juanes says on Apr 3, 2008, 14:47:

gracias monoke, donde esta el torre en su foto ? la cuidad de mexico quizas ?

my local council in london just turned down to build something exactly like that here in west london about 48 stories, taller than the new wembley stadium arch..

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Juanes says on Apr 3, 2008, 15:00:

dwr, hay muchas cosas que influencia el uso de las palabras ' Gringo o Gringa o gringuita o gringote....por ejempo.....

gringos never no when to stop drinking when in a foreign country



gringos often get too easily involved the local drug culture of the country they are in



and buy going into any latin or central american capital city in many of the expensive drinking establishments that sell only imported or foreign branded is where the gringo frequents most often..

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 3, 2008, 15:01:

It's the Edificio Coltejer in downtown Medellín. Second tallest building in Colombia.

Diana

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Juanes says on Apr 3, 2008, 15:01:

this is the last foto sorry for the last caption

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poco says on Apr 3, 2008, 15:51:

Quote:African-Americans are not called gringos, nor are Asians or Latinos. Even if they were born in the US, they're not considered gringos.

Well,,, that's one thing in their favor.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:17:

Juanes: please remove the porn you pasted , as this website has woman and minors who read its content. If you like to view porn , it is your right ,but please refrain from posting it for others to see.

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:24:

I wouldn't label it porn, but agree nonetheless. We have PBH members that are women, show some respect to them. The overall post was in poor taste.

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:37:

pbh is not for minors to begin with. that photo will be zapped soon. that dude had some cojones to wear that to begin with! i wonder if he was a hit with the ladies at the party?

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:44:

Gringo=North American.

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:53:

I try very hard not to use the word gringo. I understand that many people here on PBH view the word with feelings Cariñoso but I just don't see it that way. I have not and will not refer to anyone on this site as a Gringo. I personally have rarley heard the word used lovingly. However I have read past posts and I see that many members of PBH use it frequently and many people refer to themselves as Gringo. I have seen people that are not offended by the term wet back and many people refer to themselves as wetbacks but to me it is Offensive. The term sudaca is also offensive and Meant to be offensive. I have little doubt that Colombians on PBH would not put up with being called anything but Colombian or whatever term Colombians are comfortable with calling themselves. So when I speak to people and they say "Your a Gringo" I feel a need to put them in their place. Gringo to me is Like Nigger, Cracker, Wetback, Sudaca, Wap, Guini, or any other offensive term that a person feels a need to call someone that is different from them. Regardless of how many people accept being called that term.

You are all entitled to have your own opinions on the topic. What I have stated is my opinion. no more, no less.

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robi666 says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:58:

El gringo estaba nervioso, Palito ya lo notaba.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:58:

yeah, another thought: when a Colombian comes to North America... then what?
9 out of 10 people are .... 'gringos'?

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 16:59:

swinn - everytime i see your login name, i think of steeler great lynn swann, number 88.

you're not a pittsburgh fan are you?

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:05:

I'm A denver Fan Tejas. However I am a huge Lyn Swann Fan and that is why as a defensive lineman and Tight End in High School and at Syracuse University I wore the Number 88. (Im a Denver Fan After getting to know former Syracuse player and Bronco great Floydd Little).

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:12:

yep, he was not very popular around dallas because of all the damage he did to our team over the years, but he was one of the all time greats of the game for sure. he works for FOX, cierto?

i'm a donkey fan from time to time too ;) i love the game.

i wondered about the name after i saw it a few times. cheers...

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:14:

"Gringo to me is Like Nigger, Cracker, Wetback, Sudaca, Wap, Guini, or any other offensive term that a person feels a need to call someone that is different from them. Regardless of how many people accept being called that term."

And this is where you're wrong. You're approaching the use of the word gringo' with your (US)American sensibilities. We Latin Americans don't live in such a racially salient society and all of those despicable terms you mentioned thankfully don't exist in Colombian Spanish. You say you have rarely heard the term used 'lovingly, do you live in Colombia? How can you even hear the term used constantly and naturally when you live in the US?

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:18:

Gringo is not a bad word, just do not call someone a Texan , as that is a offensive word.

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:19:

Simon,

I have heard "los negros" used often by some Colombians, and it was no used as a term of endearment by those who where using it to describe other Colombians.

robi666, thanks for the video :O) me likes...... los gringos deven de estar nervioso

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:20:

there are colombians here who refrain from the word. they use norteamericano.

i could care less unless someone is intenionally slandering me. then it does not matter what the word is.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:22:

Med Traveler,

You heard it used just like you would hear 'los flacos' or 'los gordos,...used in a descriptive manner. Does that mean that whoever said this has something against skinny or fat people? Of course not. Colombians are just very descriptive when they speak.

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:24:

tejas, you could call 'm: Lynn Swinn

And, another thought:
"I have little doubt that Colombians on PBH would not put up with being called anything but Colombian or whatever term Colombians are comfortable with calling themselves"

Did I work to hard today? (no, ...no)... am I forgetting something?

Is there a term other than "colombian" that people use to refer to colombians?
Do Colombians have a slang name they use to refer to themselves?
Do others have a slang they use to refer to Colombians?
In general. not talking costeños, paisas, caleños, rolas, etc.

probably someone is gonna hit me on de head... cause I can't think right now.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:26:

Well Simon...i guess you're colombian, and i'm not so you'd know the culture far better than i would.......but some of those words are spoken daily by my workers in colombia. Not as a term of endearment either. Colombia racist?.....far more than the US.....they are open about it. They may not speak it to your face, but you can bet some names are not even terms of endearment.

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:26:

In Colombia a person that is of African decent and darker skinned. Is called Negro or Negra of Negrito or Negra in affection. Take the singer Charito Negro for example and the singer Gato Negro , both have dark skin. A person is equal in God's heart and should be in others, no matter what color of skin they were born with. I know ricos such a Uribe's type have done little to help the good people of Choco region and other places, but Afro-Colombianos are to me some of the finest people in Colombia.
I have a friend Oscar Echeverry we call negro who played soccer for Medellin Nacinals and for Venzuela who just this year signed a 3 year deal for 300,000 Us dollars, who has a tatoo on his neck that says negro.

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:27:

Sorry Simon, but in the context it was being used, it was definitely a racist remark.

Yo hablo espanol y entiendo que no estavan hablando beuno de "los negros: y les dije que no me gusta escuchar esa mierda..... lo siento

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:28:

Frank,

It depends on the context in which the term is used. Certainly calling someone 'negro hijueputa' is not the same as 'mi querido negro'.

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jorgegdiaz says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:28:

I just saw this thread.

Easy: A PASSPORT !!

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jorgegdiaz says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:30:

With Bush Jr being from the Lone Star state, being called Texan may be offensive...

Simon, you forgot Canuck

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:30:

I hear ya Simon....i'm not talking using the word "negro"....they very well know the english word and they use it........daily. I'm not kidding here or trying to start a fight....they pronounce it in english.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:33:

Calling someone from the US a 'gringo' is like calling someone from the UK a 'brit', it's just a colloquial term. You can even see newspapers throughout Latin America print the word 'gringo all the time, just like it's not uncommon to see the term 'brit' printed in US papers when referring to the British.

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jorgegdiaz says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:34:

In my dad´s farm a new cow was just born. Her mom was Silvia and her "dad" was from imported Semen, hence the cow is called "La Gringa"

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miamimike says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:40:

Swinn88 says on Thursday April 3rd, 2008 16:53:

I try very hard not to use the word gringo. I understand that many people here on PBH view the word with feelings Cariñoso but I just don't see it that way. I have not and will not refer to anyone on this site as a Gringo. I personally have rarley heard the word used lovingly. However I have read past posts and I see that many members of PBH use it frequently and many people refer to themselves as Gringo. I have seen people that are not offended by the term wet back and many people refer to themselves as wetbacks but to me it is Offensive. The term sudaca is also offensive and Meant to be offensive. I have little doubt that Colombians on PBH would not put up with being called anything but Colombian or whatever term Colombians are comfortable with calling themselves. So when I speak to people and they say "Your a Gringo" I feel a need to put them in their place. Gringo to me is Like Nigger, Cracker, Wetback, Sudaca, Wap, Guini, or any other offensive term that a person feels a need to call someone that is different from them. Regardless of how many people accept being called that term.

You are all entitled to have your own opinions on the topic. What I have stated is my opinion. no more, no less.

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Swinn--You succintly said it all with your post! Many Northamericans feel exactly what you wrote. I equate it with calling a Latino a Spic, having an Acidic tilt to the word(gringo). I rarely ever hear Educated Colombians referring to a NorthAmerican as a Gringo so I believe it has to do with educational level or lack of it,,,

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Lcacique says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:41:

I can careless about the gringo talk as it completely depends on the context that it is used...

I will say this, Swann and Stallworth were dope to watch in the day (and I hate to say it tejas...I loved watching the Black and Gold tear it up on Dallas). Dallas was obviously a great team...

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:42:

negrito and negrita are both used affectionately here. the first time i heard the term(s) used i was a little confused. it is not the same here with some words, even gringo.

With Bush Jr being from the Lone Star state, being called Texan may be offensive...

jd - i learned a few years back not to claim texas as home when traveling abroad. most around the world know that our numbskull president resides in texas and equate texas to him, even though he's not native.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:42:

Miamimike, read my reply to that post.

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:42:

WAS? them's fightin words lc.......

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:45:

Simon, read my reply to your post.

Medellin Traveler says, "Sorry Simon, but in the context it was being used, it was definitely a racist remark.

Yo hablo espanol y entiendo que no estavan hablando beuno de "los negros: y les dije que no me gusta escuchar esa mierda..... lo siento"

It is NOT always used a term of endearment.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 17:47:

"It is NOT always used a term of endearment."

I agree with you...but my point is that it can be!

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 18:07:

I know it can be, but your reply...

Simon says, "Med Traveler, You heard it used just like you would hear 'los flacos' or 'los gordos,...used in a descriptive manner. Does that mean that whoever said this has something against skinny or fat people? Of course not. Colombians are just very descriptive when they speak."

did not only not address my comment, but you tried telling me how "I" heard it.

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minina says on Apr 3, 2008, 18:07:

It all depends on each unique individual mind set. That is all I can tell you

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 18:12:

I didn't mean it like that Med Trav, sorry if that's how it came across.

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 3, 2008, 18:14:

No problema, I was just commenting that I heard Colombianos use the world in a negative manner, well aware that latinos love to use creative monikers to address loved ones.

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 19:13:

I approach the term the way I see it. It is not wrong. There are no American sentiments and even if there were so what. The term is offensive to me. Would you you take being called a spic lightly? a wetback? Sudaca? Indio? I don't think so. how about if I called all colombians Mules. Is it Offensive or just Colombian sensabilities. I can joke about it, I can say it in a friendly way but if I say it you will be offended, No? I live in the U.S. yes. However No one on PBH should challange my knowledge of the way of life in or about Colombia. I have lived it. I have talked about it here on PBH. I have heard the term used jokingly in Colombia. I have learned that the Joke is on those that put up with being called that term. My wife admittedly has never used the word with carino. Simon if you use the term in a friendly way cool. But I take offense. Just like my friends that say yo Nigga whats up. I take offense. Naturally spending a vast amount of time in Colombia, I know how to gage how the term is being used in Colombia. With and without American sensabilities.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 19:36:

Swinn,

You can not liken the word 'gringo' to 'spic' or 'nigger', they are not even in the same league. Those are strictly racist words, whereas 'gringo' is not since it refers to english-speakers, not of any particular race. I understand you come from a multiethnic society where race is a very touchy issue, but understand that in Colombia we don't abide by your idiosyncracies.

We also call mexicans 'manitos', refer to Costa Ricans as 'ticos' and Hondurans as 'catrachos'. I don't see them complaining about that.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 19:40:

From Wikipedia:

"Some disagreement exists among English speakers regarding whether gringo is a derogatory term. The American Heritage Dictionary and other English dictionaries classify the term as "offensive slang", "usually disparaging" or "often disparaging".[4] The term gringo does lend itself to derogatory, paternalistic or endearing connotations sometimes, depending on the context and the intent of the user.[2][3] However, many native speakers who use it do not do so pejoratively,[2][3] as is also the case with some English speakers.[5][6] The enunciation of the word can often give away whether it was meant in a derogatory manner or not.[1][2][3] There is furthermore some variation in the connotation of this word from country to country within Latin America,[2] and between Latin America and the Anglosphere."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringo

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:04:

Simon you must be joking. Please don't think for one moment that race is not an issue in colombia. Colombia is also multiethnic although many refuse to acknowledge it. Talk to Blacks and Indians in Colombia as I have and then lets talk. Most Colombians take offense to the term Indio, no? Why? Indians in the U.S. that I Know are proud to be indians but call a colombian an Indio and you have a fight. Am I correct? or how about Indio pa ti rajao? You can liken the words and they are Offensive.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:11:

I never said race was not an issue in Colombia, of course it is... but it certainly isn't the big deal that it is in the US.

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:11:

Swinn is right. Colombia is far more racist than the US. It's open and they have adopted english deragatory words. They speak them in english. I can't believe anyone that has spent time there would say or think differently. It's just the truth.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:16:

What are you talking about Frank? What "english derogatory words"? What have you been teaching them?

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:17:

The usual ones.... I just listen..

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:23:

Race is an issue in the U.S for a very good reason. When it is not an issue Racism is allowed to fester and grow unchecked. the people of the U.S today think very differently than the People of the U.S. in 1950. It has gotten better and will continue to get better. It's a hard road to travel but it is an issue and that is the first step. There is no pretending that it does not exist in the U.S. . We all know it and we all deal with it. Countries like Colombia that don't deal with it are far behind the U.S. with regard to racism issues. They still try to say it does not exist just like they did in the U.S. in the 1800's. What you see in the U.S. with regard to racism is called Progress.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:29:

Yeah..let's see, that wacky Reverend Wright, Michael Richards, Trent Lott, Dog the Bounty Hunter, Geraldine Ferraro, Louis Farrakhan, Don Imus, etc.....yup, a whole lot of progress there.

Are there any events that promote racial harmony like this taking place in the US?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Blacks_and_Whites

The Day of the Blacks
On January 5 is the Day of the Blacks, followed by the Day of the Whites on January 6. During the day of the blacks, which is believed commemorates the day in which the African slaves had a free day in which they unleashed all their happiness, people play on the streets to paint each other in black with colors and cosmetics created for this special purpose.

The Day of the Whites
On January 6 is the Day of the Whites. During this day, the people of Pasto paint each other in white using white colors and cosmetics as well as throwing each other white powder and talcum powder. On the day of the whites, the final parade takes place with the presentation of floats, krewes, musical and dances groups, and people in costumes, all of them competing for the prizes. The carnival floats are works of high quality and originality elaborated by local artisans who spend the entire year preparing their carriages for this occasion.
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I can't even begin to imagine what would even happen if whites painted their faces black in a street party in the US.... Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be after their heads!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:38:

Whites do it every year at Mardi Gras in New Orleans. Specifically during the ZULU parade on Fat Tuesday.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:41:

I always thought using blackface was unacceptable in the US.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:43:

Remember. in the years past when blacks were really treated horribly and hung from trees for whatever reason they felt one needed to be hanged. Whites dressed in Blackface all the time.

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:44:

Very interesting, thanks.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:46:

It depends on what part of Colombia your in, if you call a person a Indio.
I know for fact in Valledupar many Wayuu and Arhuacos , use the term Indio and a few have businesses with the word indio in the name. There is a store call Tienda De indio Roberto there is also
a hardware store ( Granero ) called Indio . These places are owned by Wayuu Indios.
The racism issue is more with rico elite who have vast land holding's who have displaced Indios and
Afro Colombians. Colombia has had a Afro Colombian who was elected Miss Colombia, but still needs
to improve and realize the struggles of Afro Colombianos in Choca and other areas.
I am not a biggot and have Indios and Afro Colombiano inlaws , and would give my last drop of blood to
anyone in need , except a pinche sex tourist. I do use the word Negro and Negra and Flaco and Gordo and the word Indio and have no guilt when I say them, people use the word mono to describe and address me, it is a word and not said in hate.
The Racist are people like David Duke , Louis Farrakhan , and others who single out people for their color. Ojay Simpson got away with murder, because of race. Also many White Americans in the Southern US got away with murder and hate crimes.

Colombians who use the word Indio , Negro, Negra, Gordo , Gorda . Flaco , Flaca and such are
not racist.

Also the BET channel is racist, how would people feel about a WET channel ( Fox news doesn't count) .

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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Simon says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:52:

I agree 100% Dodgerdogs!! BTW, I love the pics in your profile, great stuff!!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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cali373 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:55:

Havent we touched upon this subject MANY! times

Smile if you are a thinker!

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Swinn88 says on Apr 3, 2008, 20:59:

Dodger I hope your not a Dodger fan (Brooklyn Dodger Fan is Ok). In the U.S. you have Bet that caters to blacks because there was no real representation of blacks on U.S. T.V. Yes there were shows but somone decided they wanted to Do something for the black Community in The U.S. You also have telemundo, Univision and other Spanish Language T.V. Stations that Cater to Hispanoparlantes. There is also Polish T.V. Italian T.V. BBC T.V, Indian TV, Chinese TV, and More. Everyday TV generally caters to White audiences so there is really no need for WET. However I Agree that BET is a horrible name for a network. Add the Other language networks and it's difficult to call BET Racist when so many other channels do the same. There is also the womens network(Whats it called? I don't watch it Much) and you have Spike TV that Caters to Men.

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 21:10:

In the USA , you have the WB and TBS and others that only portray Black sitcoms.
Most blacks are not like people portrayed in those sitcoms. I like the Dodgers today and yesterday and tomorrow. Jackie Robinson made his biggot team mates see through actions not words.
Wilt the stilt made people see through actions, Jim Brown made people see through actions.
The late great coach from Grambling let the world see through his abilties. The singers like Charlie Pride ( a great business man who owns baseball clubs and banks) .
I know the USA once kept the African American from everything from good schools to decent medical care , those biggots have a special spot reserved in hell.
But with people like Opera Winfrey the great AL on the morning show, help show the USA, just how stupid people once were, as we are all equal and we all have great things to offer the world.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 22:38:

Simon... I bet you yourself, somewhere on pbh, have bad-mouthed 'Merican Imperialism... just like the 'Whacky Revr'd Wright'. .. I'm really not too fond of preachers and doctors making political statements.... but what Rev Wright said... about 'merica's chickens comin home ta roost... had alot of truth in it. I like people who speak the truth, when it's not popular.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 22:38:

Hey, Swinn... you and me need to "Meet-Up" in Pasto for the Festival Blancito y Negro .
We'll 'Trade Places'... for a few days.... jajjjja!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Lcacique says on Apr 3, 2008, 22:50:

BET is racist? What are you talking about? Have you watched TV? For years the overwhelming majority of programs on the major networks where almost entirely white (they don't have to call it WET, they just call it TV). Sure you had a few programs here and there with African Americans, but nothing that reflected the cultural make-up of the nation. So African Americans get their own station, because they sure as hell aren't getting their share of airtime on the other channels, and you want to call them racist...weak.

And you want to define what a "real" black person is or is not? All black men should aspire to be like Al Roker? WTF??? Sorry...I just don't get it. And Oprah?

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 22:58:

Lcacique... are you drinking what I'm drinking?
jajaj. okay.. if not, then explain.
If so, then... please leave it alone until la mañana.
no comprendo nada, que escribe.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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goin_south says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:00:

There's nothing up there (in Oregon) to be prejudiced about or against.. jaja..
We'll send Swinn up to test .. da Watas!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:16:

Lcacique: I do not believe all African Americans like hip hop or rap and all white people in America like Country Music and Rock and Roll.

Not all Colombians like Vallenato music and not all like Salsa or Reggaeton.

There is a wide range of music and cultures in every place everywhere.

I do not think all white poeple should copy Bill Gates or George Bush , and all black should copy Al Roker or AL Sharpton.

I also do not think all Colombians should be like Gabriel Garcia or Alvaro Uribe.

Al Roker a good person with ethics and brains ( be he black or white ).
Al Sharpton a person who likes to find fault in others ( be he black or white )

George Bush a person who is too proud to admit his mistakes ( be he black or white )
Bill Gates a intelligent person who gives back to the world ( be he black or white )

Alvaro Uribe a person who does alot for Colombia and also not done alot for Colombia.

Gabriel Garcia a person who through his words has made poeple aware of the good and bad in Colombia.
The world is full of many diffrent races and culture and many different people, some good and bad, but I like to think the good out way the bad.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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Lcacique says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:21:

Oregon was hugely racist, we had our share of sundown towns. The KKK was big in several citys. Duckie...there is a pretty big latino population here, and there has been for years and years (the bracero program). How about the Japanese internment camps?

Well g_s, you are the one drinking, tell me what you do not understand...

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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manINred says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:48:

Gringos are a concept, the perception of which varies from person to person, culture to culture.

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Lcacique says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:57:

DD: Is CMT racist?

TBS only portrays black sitcoms? You mean like "Saved by the Bell," "Home Improvement," Just Shoot Me," Yes, Dear," "The King of Queens," "Seinfeld," "Friends," "Everybody Loves Raymond," and "Sex in the City"? Oh yeah, they do show "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" and the "Steve Harvey Show." Damn that is alot of all black sitcoms...

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 3, 2008, 23:59:

So should the TV shows be 50/50 or proportional to the population??

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 4, 2008, 00:10:

Lcacique: The only country music I listen to is George Strait and Marty Robbins, so
I could not tell you if CMT is racist, I think they are Soutern Bubba , and when Garth Brooks
and Martina McBride and Toby Kieth ,came on the country music scene they changed it to a style I do not
care for.
I remeber WTBS for Braves baseball and it's movies , though I like Sienfeld and like the King of Queens.
I believe Fox news channel is part racist and overly biased to Republicans and to the White
middle and upper class American's

I believe if I was had to vote today for Obama or McCain or Hilary , I believe my vote would be
wasted on anyone of the 3.

I liked Bill Clinton's politics , but not Bill Clinton's personel life style.

I liked Ronald Reagan for many choices he made , but not his choice of vice President.

I agree the African American in the past was kept out of main strean entertainment, but with
actors like Eddie Murphy , Danny Glover , Wesley Snipes , Halle Berry and many others, and the sitcom the Cosby show, main stream America was made to see talent comes in all colors of race.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 00:10:

I love 'Home Improvement'. The only channel I ever find it on, is Nick at Night 1 or 2, when 'Fresh Prince' or the 'George Lopez Show' isn't on.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Lcacique says on Apr 4, 2008, 00:10:

I never said that...however, if someone is going to call BET racist because they show african american programming, you might want to take a look at all of the other stations and tell me what you see.

I'm not talking about forcing stations to be proportional, but it is interesting and unfortunate that they are not.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 4, 2008, 01:41:

In my case just few people call my husband El Ingles the rest is El gringo,

jorgediaz, when my dad used to work in emigration, there was Dog who was brought from the USA, one of those sniffer dogs, and its name was gringo

engage brain before opening mouth

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 4, 2008, 03:21:

Simon says, "I can't even begin to imagine what would even happen if whites painted their faces black in a street party in the US.... Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be after their heads!"

Wait to you see Robert Downey Jr's next movie Tropic Thunder. He is in more than just in "black face" he has completely transformed into a "negro" in the movie. You can't even tell it's him.

It definitely will be interesting to see the black communities reactions when it comes out.

Take a look.

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miamimike says on Apr 4, 2008, 04:45:

Simon says on Thursday April 3rd, 2008 19:36:

Swinn,

You can not liken the word 'gringo' to 'spic' or 'nigger', they are not even in the same league. Those are strictly racist words, whereas 'gringo' is not since it refers to english-speakers, not of any particular race. I understand you come from a multiethnic society where race is a very touchy issue, but understand that in Colombia we don't abide by your idiosyncracies.

We also call mexicans 'manitos', refer to Costa Ricans as 'ticos' and Hondurans as 'catrachos'. I don't see them complaining about that
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Simon, being how my Ex was from Mexico I never heard any of them(her family) ever being referred to or for that matter, referring to others as "manitos" ect. Never heard any them addressing say someone from Colombia as anything but Señor/Señora or by their first name if the relationship had progressed to that point.In Colombia I haven't heard professional class Colombians referring to other groups of Latino with these Nics or Americans referred to as Gringos. I truly believe it is one's family upbringing and educational level where you see this deviation. Not saying it may not happen I haven't seen it in my travels to Colombia since 1994. In our home many years back, if a Kid referred to someone in this manner(say calling a black a ni**er) this usually merited a whack across the head or having your mouth washed out with Fel's Naptha Barsoap! Very True,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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manINred says on Apr 4, 2008, 06:51:

"Every time I have heard the words used in Colombia it's for someone SPECIFICALLY from the USA. I have heard in my case "no, el no es gringo, el es Canadiense."

In Brazil however, even Colombians and Venezuelans are called "gringo"."

Exactly my experience, with the exception of when I was in Cartagena

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Man Tequila says on Apr 4, 2008, 07:18:

So many comments from such well-travelled ground.

The meaning of words like "gringo" depends entirely on context, which differs from person to person and place to place. As well as mood.

The meaning of a racial epithet also depends on time. The meaning of the word "gay" has changed over the last 100 years. Words that were once highly charged racial epithets are sometimes used as terms of endearment by that same community.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 4, 2008, 08:12:

MT - that is Robert Downey Jr? Amazing.....

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 09:40:

Is that movie supposed to be a comedy? That looks like Ben Stiller - and I can't imagine him in a serious drama.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 4, 2008, 09:44:

Yes, it's a comedy which also includes Jack Black: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0942385/

It has an August release date so... it may be just aight.

Diana

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Simon says on Apr 4, 2008, 09:47:

Do you remember what happened to C. Thomas Howell when he used blackface in 'Soul Man'? It ruined his career!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 4, 2008, 09:47:

Oh yeah, horrible movie. =X

Diana

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Lcacique says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:04:

Robertjorge: Watch the movie Permanent Midnight. It is a serious drama and Ben Stiller plays a heroin addict...based on a true story. Good flick.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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jorgegdiaz says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:20:

MT, isn´t that Tim Meadows (former SNL cast member)?

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

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Lcacique says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:31:

Check IMDB, it is Robert Downey Jr.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:40:

Lcacique - will do.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Juanes says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:49:

a todo los miembros en pbh, mucho lo siento para anadir las fotos ofensivas, no tuve intenciones malas..

simon , does have some vakid point. i am often bemused why i can say words like negrito, chino, gordito espcially to people in the street or serving me food/drinks or the bus/ticket conductor when in Colombia. I love this saying what you see to a person and who gives a frig about the political correctness, i think we especially in london have gone too far with this line of pc words/comments/etc causing offensive,etc......i am allowed to get away with saying these words to people/friends/colombians because i am a gringo speaking and who has been viewed as not a native & because i speak spanish in their country and therefore i am excused from using these words..........or is it that everyone uses them there in the streets jokingly to other people they know and sometimes do not know & that we are too far ahead of their game here in the western world.......

if i spoke in my own language or used spanish words like this here in london i would either be

hit
arrested and fined for words like to cause offence or harm
possible job conotations also


i much prefer the freedom of expression and use of this vocabulary when in colombia and do not mind if someone cares to call me rubio o mono o gringo o tonto..

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/

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Juanes says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:49:

a todo los miembros en pbh, mucho lo siento para anadir las fotos ofensivas, no tuve intenciones malas..

simon , does have some vakid point. i am often bemused why i can say words like negrito, chino, gordito espcially to people in the street or serving me food/drinks or the bus/ticket conductor when in Colombia. I love this saying what you see to a person and who gives a frig about the political correctness, i think we especially in london have gone too far with this line of pc words/comments/etc causing offensive,etc......i am allowed to get away with saying these words to people/friends/colombians because i am a gringo speaking and who has been viewed as not a native & because i speak spanish in their country and therefore i am excused from using these words..........or is it that everyone uses them there in the streets jokingly to other people they know and sometimes do not know & that we are too far ahead of their game here in the western world.......

if i spoke in my own language or used spanish words like this here in london i would either be

hit
arrested and fined for words like to cause offence or harm
possible job conotations also


i much prefer the freedom of expression and use of this vocabulary when in colombia and do not mind if someone cares to call me rubio o mono o gringo o tonto..

http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Juanes/

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Simon says on Apr 4, 2008, 10:58:

Speaking of Robert Downey Jr, I can't wait to see him as IRON MAN!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Lcacique says on Apr 4, 2008, 11:01:

RJ: Zero Effect was another serious flick he was in, but he was not the lead. I met him during filming which took place in Portland. He was also in dramas like Fresh Horses (not good), Next of Kin(ugg!), and Empire of the Sun (briefly).

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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Mononoke28 says on Apr 4, 2008, 12:30:

Simon says on Friday April 4th, 2008 10:58:
Speaking of Robert Downey Jr, I can't wait to see him as IRON MAN!

Really? Uhmm... I don't know. I read an interview with him where he talked about how he identified with the character since Iron Man I guess an alcoholic or something. But I just can't picture him as a suerphero. Gwyneth Paltrow is in it as well, huh?

Diana

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mranderson says on Apr 4, 2008, 13:58:

Everybody calls me mono. Am I still a gringo?

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 4, 2008, 14:12:

Mono or Neo??? jjajajaajajajaa....every time i see your name....i cant' get that movie out of my head....

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la campiña says on Apr 4, 2008, 14:13:

calling someone, Richard Cranium in england is a good one, anyway a gringo is a north american end of post, ha

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Medellin Traveler says on Apr 4, 2008, 14:25:

Simon says, "Do you remember what happened to C. Thomas Howell when he used blackface in 'Soul Man'? It ruined his career!"

You can hardly compare what's his name to the great actor Robert Downey Jr.

mranderson says, "Everybody calls me mono. Am I still a gringo?"

That's what they call gringos en espanol in Colombia, especially those gringos they care for.

Tropic Thunder Trailer....

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 4, 2008, 17:58:

Lcacique, I forgot about Stiller in 'Next of Kin'. He was the spoiled Chicago mafia rich kid. That movie was so bad, it is almost good. I like the part where all the kin folk gear up down in the hollar before going up to the city to get some payback.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 4, 2008, 18:01:

jajajajaja, i remember that. swayze came back from the city to avenge his brother's death hillbilly style.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Lcacique says on Apr 4, 2008, 19:03:

exactly...

Another hilarious Swayze movie is Red Dawn. Cubans and Russians paratrooping into Colorado...that shit was hilarious. They should have thrown in the Sandinistas as well. At least it starred Harry Dean Stanton.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 4, 2008, 19:06:

PC has gon wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard in the US.....it's a joke. Clown shoes.

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goin_south says on Apr 4, 2008, 19:07:

Maybe we can create and institutionalize some new forms of the word.

Neo-gringo?
How would/could it be used?
Perceived?
others?

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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poco says on Apr 4, 2008, 19:42:

Quote: Maybe we can create and institutionalize some new forms of the word.

That's not the way it works, well,, maybe Neo-Nazi.

The trick will be to find an entirely NEW WORD or at least adapt an existing word that has a phonic closeness. Like Geico, Gecco.

How about Greedgo with a silent "D",, humm, Grey-goo,, has a nice ring,,, another future term of affection.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

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