What do you think is the best schedule for Ciclovia in Bogotá and elsewhere??

adrimm says on Apr 28, 2008, 07:25:

Ciclovia is one of the best things that Bogota has going for it.. I can't emphasize how much that enriches the quality of life for everyone... Bogota has managed alot of things that other cities haven't and wish they could, this is one of them. If anything the should set up secure bike parking around restaurants on sundays so people can bike to the restaurant then bike home.

Ciclovia es de las mejores cosas que ofrece Bogota. No puedo espressar a lo que hace ciclovia para mejorar la calidad de vida para todos los ciuadnos de Bogota. Ademas, Bogota es una ciudad que a logrado cosas que otras ciudades no han podido, pero les gustaria y esta es una.

Deberian es hacer parquederos los domingos cerca a el commercia para que todos pueden ir en bici a almorzar tranquillos que la bicicleta no se les vaya a desaparecer.

adrimm says on Apr 28, 2008, 07:45:

http://www.examiner.com/a-663447~No_cars_on_Sunday__Maybe.html

http://www.portlandonline.com/transportation/index.cfm?c=egbad

http://www.cyclovia.org/ (Australia)

Cerealkiller says on Apr 28, 2008, 07:58:

I agree with Adrimm. I have never been to the Ciclovia as Im a gym person myself, but I do support the idea of it 100%. Ciclovias should go from 6 to 2 as usual...I can't help but think Mr. Congressman probably has some dealings with the transport union. I don't have the time to look him up but Im sure congreso visible has this person's background somewhere... I cannot begin to understand how anyone (without some interest behind it) can come up such an idea...seriously, the ciclovia is the best thing that could happen for people who cannot afford more expensive types of recreation. For starters, parks are full of prostitutes who leave their used condoms and needles lying there, who would want to take their kids to any park? Clean up the parks, offer better security in public recreation areas and then *maybe* think about ciclovia...

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

Alma del Norte says on Apr 28, 2008, 08:00:

Who gets up at 5.00 am on the weekends? Nutters perhaps. You're right Webby, hands off the Ciclovia. No, in fact make it 7 'til 7 - that would prevent me missing out so much!

webmanco says on Apr 28, 2008, 08:04:

5:00 am on a sunday just to be run over by a drunk driver

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:06:

I could care less about ciclovia. What I do find odd is an American engaging in activism in Colombia and making the news with photo and all. Seems a little imprudent to me.

webmanco says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:09:

DWR do you think the Gringo could be in danger?, I would thank him for taking "positive" iniciatives.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Alma del Norte says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:11:

Quote Cerealkiller: "I agree with Adrimm. I have never been to the Ciclovia as Im a gym person myself"

Cereal, I am a gym person too. I go almost daily, but the Ciclovia is more than just about exercise. It's socially very important and needs to be expanded. It's about reclaimimg the streets, the environment, about enjoying a city which for the rest of the week is a very cylce/pedestrian - unfriendly place.

You can't compare Bodytech with actually getting out and knowing and enjoying the city in this way. It's about empowerment.

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:19:

Webmanco. I don't know if he is in danger. I doubt it. But would you want your photo in El Tiempo as a big Gringo protesting a Colombian affair? I wouldn't. I believe some things in this country are not for us Gringos to get involved with. I believe in low key. I believe that Colombia is a country that demands respect and caution when it comes to visiting or living here.

Cerealkiller says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:19:

Alma I'm with you on your argument, but the article implied something to the effect that only poor people care about the ciclovia because they're the ones who use it. I never went out on Ciclovia sundays for various reasons (namely I cannot ride a bicycle and I usually spent sundays recovering from saturday nights or outside the city with family). However, that does not mean I don't appreciate the positive effects of ciclovia, its not just about sport, its about recreation (as I mentioned in my post) and well being. I just don't see how is it that any politician can come up with such a ridiculous proposal without even addressing other issues, it just irks me that people are denied their right to pursue healthier lifestyles because some ass in congress thinks there's too much traffic on sundays.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:21:

I take back my comment "I could care less about ciclovia". I didn't mean to take the negative and if I had to vote I would say ciclovia is a very positive thing for Colombia.

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:23:

Webmanco. I don't know if he is in danger. I doubt it. But would you want your photo in El Tiempo as a big Gringo protesting a Colombian affair? I wouldn't. I believe some things in this country are not for us Gringos to get involved with. I believe in low key. I believe that Colombia is a country that demands respect and caution when it comes to visiting or living here.

Alma del Norte says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:24:

Cereal, I'm with you too, especially the bit about Saturday night/Sunday morning ;)

webmanco says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:49:

There are many unwelcomed participation from foreing countries thru politics, but in this case I am sure this guys iniciative it is welcome by at least 80% of colombians. If got the time I will go and support him. It is always good to support those who do the talk and do the walk, ride or whatever :-)

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:55:

I agree with you that most people are in favor of his innitiative. Probably more than 80%. My point is public exposure. The innitiative aside, the public exposure in a country like Colombia is something I would recommend avoiding. People in politics ride in guarded caravans for a reason.

Noelito40 says on Apr 28, 2008, 09:56:

When I talk to the folks back home about Colombia, one of the things I rave about is Ciclovia. The benefits of this scheme are incalculable, from the simple, more exercise for kids leads to less obesity in later years, to less cars on the roads so less pollution, etc, etc, I enjoy a walk on the novena every Sunday and love watching or playing a game of football while I´m there, so I say hands off our Ciclovia…!!!

Noelito

webmanco says on Apr 28, 2008, 10:01:

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 10:05:

I agree!!!! I will sign the petition. Just saying.....

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 10:08:

Desideria. You are an intelligent, outspoken and opionated person. I resort to you for your perspective. Would you put your photos and political position on the news and El Tiempo in Colombia if you lived here?

dwr says on Apr 28, 2008, 10:09:

For something you felt very passionate about.

webmanco says on May 8, 2008, 05:04:

The guy was in favor of changing the shechedule for ciclovia, died in Congress. I hope he changes his mind at the other side. QEPD

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-05-08/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...



Mayo 7 de 2008

Muerte de José Fernando Castro revela fallas en atención de emergencias en el Congreso

Cuando defendía en la Comisión VI del Senado el proyecto de Ley que busca modificar el horario de la ciclovía en Bogotá, el representante sufrió un paro cardiorespiratorio y murió horas después.

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-05-08/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

jonas says on May 8, 2008, 07:21:

I believe he died from a heart attack. Good exercising can help prevent such terrible event.

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

Alma del Norte says on May 8, 2008, 08:26:

Seems that those on scene did very well indeed to get an output after cardiac arrest. They did so only with mouth-to-mouth and external compressions, which is also very brave.

Ironic that they criticise tha lack of equipment, but Sr. Castro still managed have his portrait taken.