Walk tall boys, walk tall

gringolondinense says on Mar 23, 2007, 05:50:

...and also dump the white socks with training shoes / bermuda shorts / baseball cap routine. :-)

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aztec says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:01:

Speaking of training shoes... ...I discovered the hard way that most residents in Bogotá don't wear white "tennis shoes". A gringo with white shoes stand out as a foreigner from across the parking lot.

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:02:

It might be true in some cases but the guys I've seen would have to pay some chick to sleep with them - which they are. OTOH, you always pay for it even if you think it's "free".

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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raulinho says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:05:

Don't kid yourself a big age gap is a disaster waiting to happen. My friend who is a GP sees it all the time with older white guy younger generally atractive eastern european/latina. He had one colombian patient who was marrying an older white guy and he announced the result to her of her pregnancy test as positive and could not understand why she burst into tears "doctor the baby is not his !" ooops

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manINred says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:15:

Kalder you speak some sense! I agree wholeheartedly.

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gringolondinense says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:26:

Spot the tourist This photo was taken in Tahiti. Seems that the "gringo uniform" is not limited to Colombia you will all be delighted to know. Check this guy out...hes in the middle just in case you cant spot him :-)

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Lowell says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:47:

Money There's no way my wife maried me for my money. Whatever love she has for me is deep and set. Proof is when my pension was stopped for 6 months and she didn't leave. My wife is a naturally beautiful woman and gets so many offers that at times I tire of it. She could have left in a heart beat. What did she do? She started sewing for at least 8 hours a day and maybe made 50 - 75 cents an hour doing so. No complaints, no dinners out, no movies....... I may complain about her violent tendancies..... However, there's also a very good side to her. I love all of her. Good and Bad.

Before marriage, age difference and looks were a big issue for me. We had many a discussion about it. She also pointed out that many Colombia women marry older Colombian men. It's not wrong for a person to want love and some sort of security in marriage. I'm 54, she's 29. Also, After 13 surgeries my body isn't so good looking anymore and my face shows years of stress and sun exposure. I wish I could be as she. I wouldn't have married someone with the looks and scars I have.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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cali373 says on Mar 23, 2007, 06:53:

"doctor the baby is not his ! ooops"

That happens even when with those of the same race and age. By the way ever heard of Anna Nicole Smith? Donald Trumps girls have always been years younger than him. The U.S. or Europe is no exeption to this issue.

Smile if you are a thinker!

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gringolondinense says on Mar 23, 2007, 07:00:

no i havent DG Just be warned there are many fat pasty gringo types trolling the beaches out there. Seems they are in all the good places these days.

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gringolondinense says on Mar 23, 2007, 07:28:

alternatively... invite a few of these creatures along on your voyage, then make them walk the plank :-). You'll then have all the beaches (and tahitian chicas) to yourself

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southern151 says on Mar 23, 2007, 10:42:

The older man and younger woman is worldwide... I live in the states and have seen it hundreds of times. Many times it is a matter of security. What I mean by that is that an older man is established in work, normally has a home(in these cases) and is typically more mature in his thinking. Admit it, most of us at 21 had only 2 things on our minds...pussy and partying! I still have that on my mind and still live that life, to an extent. LOL I've just aquired a few more assets since 21. I have it here all the time. Women that come to my house for after bar parties are often like, "This is your house? You don't have a roomate?" You can see the wheels turning when they think of free place to live and it's NOT with Mom and Dad! I'm staying strong though and have yet to let one stay for longer than just the night. jaja

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scotty says on Mar 23, 2007, 11:02:

look All this talk about older gringos and younger latina's and their real reson for getting hitched.
every woman seems to have a reason for marrying a man, any man. often i wonder how many actual marriages really are for love, there always seems to be an angle somewhere.
Im not just talking about marriage between a younger colombiana and a older gringo im talking about any marriage anywhere, anytime.

women and often times the men have an angle or a hidden agenda.
some just want to get out of their parents house--freedom
some are looking for the money--sugar daddy
some are looking for a way to america
some its all about sex
some are desperate to get anyone they can anywhere
some its about having children a family
some colombiana's really dont like the colombian man
some gingo's really don't like the women of their country
and a hundred other reasons

you can see this not only between older gringos and younger latina's but you can also see it right here in the states between anyone of any age or race. i see it all the time.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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miamimike says on Mar 23, 2007, 11:26:

Kalder I would Add This also,,, Ditch the pointy "Cockroach Killer" Cowboy Boots, 10 Gallon Cowboy Hats and Large dinner plate sized Belt Buckles,,,Dead giveaways,,,LOL,,,These are as Hilarious as the White Sneakers,Checkered shorts, lime green polish Bowling shirts, Ballcaps and sportscoats and Hawiian Shirts,,,LOL

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 23, 2007, 12:14:

that picture of gringolondinense reminds me of the book "where is wally" :)

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miamimike says on Mar 23, 2007, 12:37:

Tinto, if you want to make a Target out of yourself in Colombia as a North American,then dress this way and you will be a target of every Taxi Driver, Unscrupolous money changer ect. Why put a Target on your forehead or your back by dressing like this?

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 23, 2007, 12:44:

Yes, lots of Colombianas actually wish to marry a little older dude (many have been raised up to think so) but it means 2 to 10 years older, not a guy who's 30 years their senior. This means that a middle-class caleña, at 22 is perhaps dating a guy who's 25, doing his last semester at ICESI...

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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treedoc says on Mar 23, 2007, 13:07:

Aloha shirts..... Sorry, but dont get the slant on Hawaiian shirts. Im from Maui, and have worn them forever, (subtle colors, generally, mind u).For comfort in the tropics, u just cant beat a liteweight hawaiian shirt with coconut buttons, pair of shorts and chancletas, (hawaiian style sandals)Definately not i the same category as thoze other eye sores....

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goin_south says on Mar 23, 2007, 13:43:

I thought it was more just a 'latina' thing; a few years back, right after filing for divorce, I started dating a Puerta Rican chic who lived in Houston, who was 7 years younger than me. I met her online, and must confess, the only thing I lied about was my age - because I could - and I told her I was about 5 years younger than my actual age (bad boy, bad boy, whatcha gonna do?)

When I confessed a few months later my actual age, SHE WAS, TO MY CONFUSION, QUITE HAPPY. HER exact words at the time were: "Oh! I like this even better now!" I couldn't understand that, but was quite relieved.

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 23, 2007, 13:57:

It has nothing to do about being "picky". It's normal and natural cause of events. Young women are atracted to young men and vice versa. Mother Nature intended it that way. The society has taught us to look for "security"; that's why we swapped the young, handsome warrior for the balding, middle-aged provider. "What's love got to do with it"...

Cheers,
Desi


"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Mar 23, 2007, 13:59:

You know It's not like Colombianas limit their dating of older men to only gringos. I know a lot of smart, sexy young Colombianas who date older COLOMBIAN guys.

I think a big part of it is that young Colombian guys right out of college tend to still live with mom and dad and don't have disposable income. How much fun can that be? So the girls go for guys with real jobs, a little spending money and a nice bachelor pad.

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mecca says on Mar 23, 2007, 14:41:

treedoc from maui? You from maui, bra? I'm from oahu, still live part time there. Do you know the Pinho's in hana.."hana boy"..got tons of friends in maui. Aloha, bra.

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 23, 2007, 18:06:

My wife's first husband was 6 years YOUNGER than her. Good thing she didn't read PBSH to know how out of step she was.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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southern151 says on Mar 23, 2007, 18:09:

And her age compared to yours?... Yesterday is irrevelant. We want the scoop on today's news! LOL

Sorry, I've been watching Inside Edition! HAHAHA

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 23, 2007, 18:15:

I'm 82 (or am I 84?) and she is 46 now. Hehehe, I'm like Morphus, I'm banging a chick as old as my granddaughters.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Terry2 says on Mar 23, 2007, 18:42:

Nice post Kalder Couldn't have said it better.... proves there is still some rational thinking going on here...... :)

Terry2

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Gator says on Mar 23, 2007, 19:03:

It's Really For... security, better life style and to get out of the house. Many Colombians expect to marry older men. A fact that many have overlooked is that past 30 and unmarried it is tough for a Colombiana, both finding a job and getting married,

Why? Mr. Hollywood hit the nail on the head. Younger Colombian males are not established financially and can't afford to move out of the house.

Me? I am sixty-eight and married to an eighteen-year-old. All my friends said that I was crazy and it could be fatal at my age. My reply, "If she dies, she dies. I'll just find another."

Whoa, not really true and if Mrs. Gator stumbles across that comment I would be dead.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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famsearch says on Mar 23, 2007, 19:04:

hmmm.... we must have something pretty good going on here. 11 year age difference between my wife and i, and if she married me for my money, i wish that she would tell me where it is, so that i could spend it... lol
dan

dan

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kalder says on Mar 24, 2007, 03:10:

Terry Thanks for the thumbs up. It's pretty obvious to me that attractive people don't automatically lose their sex appeal at a certain age. Men or women; Latinas or gringos.

Mind you, I'm talking about sex. A MARRIAGE between people with a significant age difference is an entirely different matter. And I'm not nearly so sanguine about that! That's somewhere a wise man would pause long and think hard.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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raulinho says on Mar 24, 2007, 06:09:

Actually it is in the sex where the marriage frequently falls apart for an older guy with younger women nature can be cruel!

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mvefwd says on Mar 24, 2007, 13:59:

14 Years My Calena is 22. I am 36. We have been together for two years and we are very happy. Her sister is 28 and her brother in law is 52. When we were just dating, I overheard a conversation where one of my GF's friends asked her, "Why dont you date someone your age?" My GF replied, "If I wanted a boy, I would get pregnant and have one."

Viva Colombia
---E

No matter where you go... You are who you are...

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CaptainHowdy says on Mar 24, 2007, 17:02:

Age difference is not a problem.. I'm in Texas and I just broke up with a Spanish girl 16 years younger than me. We never really thought about the age difference until birthday time. It's about compatibility, not age! I will admit, however, that age difference does somewhat affect compatibility but if a person is open minded and easy going, they should be able to roll with the differences. I can assure you that even if you were with someone very close to your own age, there will be compatibility issues there as well. Bottom line, if you're both happy, then it's all good...Age is irrelevant..
And, in response to an earlier post, you're supposed to wear white socks with tennis shoes. What? You think you're supposed to wear dress socks with tennis shoes???? This isn't the math department at your local university!!!

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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CaptainHowdy says on Mar 24, 2007, 17:14:

Cockroach killers... Miamimike, if you really want to see cockroach killers, take a look at the shoes the girls in Colombia wear. They can kill a cockroach 3 inches inside the wall!!! I guess that's the style, but I really don't care for it....but I'm not wearing them, so it's all cool...

Ok...I've seen many a post about what NOT to wear in Colombia...or Tahiti. LOL What should one wear in Colombia to blend in. I have the same problem as Tinto, 6'2", baby blue eyes, and with somewhat fair skin. I, too, will stick out (or above) the crowd regardless of my attire. But, since I'm now fully versed in what NOT to wear, I was wondering what would be considered "acceptable" in Colombia.

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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goin_south says on Mar 24, 2007, 18:21:

CH... I think jus a Bathrobe is all ya need....jejeee, if they make em that big. Really, as I was told, jus go to the aero puerto in your robe, save some time and luggage space. You'll be too busy keepin the ladies howdy. I mean, happy. Well, feliz. Afortunadas. Qualquiera. jejeee. I don't know, man. I'm just hopin you aint got the seat next to me on de plane. lol

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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CaptainHowdy says on Mar 25, 2007, 19:08:

OH???? Well, it would be a good thing if I had the seat next to you on the plane. We could chat about the sexi Colombianas, kick back a few bottles of water, and you could be kind enough to let me know when my bathrobe had fallen open. You'd let me know, wouldn't you, Feliz???
LOL

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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mecca says on Mar 25, 2007, 19:32:

feliz i like your idea Man that would be cool. But, i was thinking of a having a huge coche de bebe made for when in Colombia. Just have your girl push you around the malls, laid back with a beer and wearing a smoking jacket, smoking a pipe. Now that's style.

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goin_south says on Mar 25, 2007, 20:02:

Mecca! Yer Killin Me, Dude!
with deep...belly...laughter.
I think my novia is got a crazy enough side to her,
TO DO IT!
Might make the front page of EL TIEMPO!

((coche de bebe made for when in Colombia. Just have your girl push you around the malls,)) with a sign of course: LINDO GRINGUITO MIO (for you, of course.)

For me, simply a sign: EL FELIZ Y AFORTUNADO

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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goin_south says on Mar 25, 2007, 20:06:

CHowdy, ... I think U probably ought to buy 2 robes; one to put on the front, and 1 for de back, and I'll jus wait for the next plane, so you got plenty space there ;)

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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goin_south says on Mar 25, 2007, 20:11:

From Walking Tall to... Lounging in a Stroller!

Did I miss a segway in there somewhere?

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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Célle says on Mar 25, 2007, 22:24:

A las mujeres jovenes si nos gustan los manes mayores young women we love older men. Do you want to know why? There's something about them like.....
1. They don't have stupid conversations
2. Most of them have a stable job
3. Can offer security in a marriage
4. In most cases will not cheat because they dont take the age difference for granted
5. Know how to treat a woman because they already make the stupid mistakes with their first women

Yes we prefer them to be older.

I will not reveal my age but what I will say is that I can't see myself dating a guy my age... boring!

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goin_south says on Mar 26, 2007, 00:13:

She's in a time warp; she hasn't even been born yet.
2010.
Don't take her seriously.
jus cause she's tellin you what you want to hear.

Celle?
Elmo...he's older...;)
He'll have some happy reading en la manana. ajajaa

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 06:47:

Mi querido felizafortunado.... muy buena broma, tu mensaje me hizo partirme de la risa esta mañana :)

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elmodefoque says on Mar 26, 2007, 07:25:

Damn Celle if you’re into old modefoques, I’m just the guy for you!
Por ahi dicen que estoy maduro pero no podrio and I’m a much better lover now than when I was a young modefoque. I’m not as selfish and so damn vain.
When I was young I wanted to screw myself and did a couple times, I was that vain..
I did not give a crap whether women were satisfied or not, they had a great time simply by getting me in bed, that was their prize.
Now, I take my time getting you ready and fulfilling all your needs and fantasies. Since I’m a gentleman and not some vulgar no class scumbag, I wont be so graphic describing how I would get you ready. Let me just tell you my tongue and mind gets a lotta work. I like to talk, both in Spanish and English when I’m doing my thing. Sometime is difficult to talk while my tongue is in action but I’ve master that art.
As far as conversation, I’ll to talk to you about Britney Spears one minute and next about UN resolution number 2349.
As for money, I hate to brag, but I’m loaded. Cleaning toilets has been berry berry good to me.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 26, 2007, 07:47:

When I first got divorced, I was 34, I thought I would have a hard time dating. I figured that at that age and with the baggage of a divorce and kids, no younger women would want to go out with me.

Well, suffice it to say that I was quickly proven wrong. I was soon going out with quite a few 20-25 year old hotties in Houston. I had a 26 year old girlfriend for a time before I decided I was going to focus my search in Colombia. Strangely enough, at 30, my Colombian girlfriend is the oldest woman I have dated since I got a divorce.

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 11:58:

Replying to: Damn Celle if you’re into old modefoques, I’m just the guy for you!

How old is old?

I didn't say old I said older...correction Mr. Elmo.

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 12:04:

mvefwd I'm totally with your Calena. If I wanted to baby-sit I would have my own children. Por eso no tengo bebes!!! Young men from 20-30 are hot, sexy and have great hard bodies but, they are like children and they're also very selfish. They are always only thinking about themselves...

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 12:06:

mvefwd I'm totally with your Calena. If I wanted to baby-sit I would have my own children. Por eso no tengo bebes!!! Young men from 20-30 are hot, sexy and have great hard bodies but, they are like children and they're also very selfish. They are always only thinking about themselves...

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elmodefoque says on Mar 26, 2007, 12:19:

How old? do you remember 8 track cassete decks.
How about standing on line to see the premier of "the godfather" how about "scarface"?

I'll get there, when I get there!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 26, 2007, 12:21:

Elmo you are older than that, i think the first movies you went to were the silent ones. jijij

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elmodefoque says on Mar 26, 2007, 12:23:

ok, charlie chaplin was the first movie i saw, but they had no sound, only some modefoque playing a piano on the side of the stage

I'll get there, when I get there!

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goin_south says on Mar 26, 2007, 13:50:

si; 'old' is older, but... 'older' is not necessarily old.

Is that a fine modefoquen line or what?

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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rocinante says on Mar 26, 2007, 16:51:

This applies to all cultures From a woman's point of view:Young men from 20-30 are hot, sexy and have great hard bodies but, they are like children and they're also very selfish. They are always only thinking about themselves... célleBut one day a woman will find herself with 25-30 years of age, recently out of a relationship and the 31-37 year old man with stability will look much better than the 40-60 year olds. To the 25-30 year old chica a guy closer to her age is much more desirable than 47 year old pasty bald flabbo. Si o no?

This applies to all cultures, not just Colombia.

From a man's point of view: There is always so much talk or maybe even call it worrying by the men here about age, cultural, language etc... differences when it comes to gringos doing the mail order/internet bride thing. Will she stray? Is she lying to me? Is she only after my money?

The winning combination is to have a girl that really wants you for you. Finding a girl closer to your age, who is "in your league" in the looks department who is OK without you (read: doesn't NEED you).

Women are great at math when it comes to biological clock and other important milestones - they can assess their situation, work the numbers without using their fingers.

If you are 45 and she's 25 you can bet in 10 years when she still has it together and you're pushing 60 that while you're taking your daily Geritol nap, there's a good chance she's in the boathouse doing Carlos the poolboy figuring out how the two of them are going to spend her inheritence when you croak.

Or she may be the sweetest little angel who will be faithfull all the time. But how can you really know? Also if she is really faithful and does all the right things (no lying, no aggression, bad attitude and stuff like that), maybe she's not truly happy and feels inside that she sacrificed.

If you get a girl who is closer to your age, language, interestes and culture and is "in your league"(still there's a 50% divorce rate, though) you will cut out a great of worries.

Of course if you just want arm candy and you don't care if she's being unfaithful with the pool boy, then why worry?

This applies to all cultures, not just Colombia.

My bottom line is walk tall boys, walk tall. You are in control and can call the shots. If you're way out of your girl's league and in the later third of your life, it makes sense to assess your situation, work the numbers, use your fingers and call the right shots.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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mecca says on Mar 26, 2007, 17:07:

Well put rocinante In reading your post, what I agree with most is to "walk tall" and stay in control. I agree and disagree with your 25 and 45 year old theory (of the girl wandering). Yes, IF you intend on bringing your girl back to the states (which i think is personally the worst thing you can do for a relationship with a colombiana) then you are correct. 'Cause once she is 35 and still hot she has all the oppertunity to wander and the man (from your example) is now 55.

But, from my point of view, which I would NEVER take a girl out of Colombia, at 35 in Colombia the girl has fallen off the cliff. She no longer commands anything more than a brief look in the malls from the Colombianos.

All the men 18-55 are on to the young girls. I know there are many here that disagree, but a 35 year old woman in Colombia is very, very old news. Even a 35 year old hot woman with no children is going to "play hell" to try to find a long term boyfriend or husband. I've heard this a million times from my Colombian friends. They say that a single woman with a child is 2 mouths to feed, and why not feed a young girlfriend instead of an old woman, as they eat the same.

On the other hand, a 55 year old man with money in Colombia (Colombiano or gringo) commands anything he wants. It's a mans world after the age of 40.

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rocinante says on Mar 26, 2007, 18:57:

mecca. reading between the lines of my post here I would never bring a Colombiana to the US period. But 95% of the "searching for a wife" on this board are not going to live in Colombia - so my post is for them - the guys bringing back the wives here. So, we agree.

I had this conversation with a few guys on this board while out one night and all agreed: The hot Colombiana here in the US has all the power. In Colombia the guys call the shots.

There was this really hot Colombiana bartender who had just arrived in the US four days prior - tourist visa. No one could get her phone number if they handed her hundred dollar bills. She's got every guy in NYC eating out of her hand and after only being here 4 days she knew it. She probably knew it before she got to the US. In Colombia there are hundreds of her walking around; in the US she is a star. Every latino living in the US wants an untainted chica right off the boat from Latin America. So many times I've heard my Latino friends say, "Man, once the girls come to the US (from Puerto Rico) they get spoiled - the trick is to stay in Puerto Rico".

Your last sentence is a bit sketchy in that it seems that all men over 40 in CO rule. You probably meant to narrow that down a bit.

Living in Medellín I find that the women there do not want to leave for the US or Europe. If you are a together guy (has a job, not living with roommates/family and maybe has a car) and you speak Spanish and are living in Medellín and involved in the culture (not always looking for and hanging with other gringos), the last thing you need to complete the perfect picture is to have a job that IS or APPEARS to be paying slightly better than average.

When you meet women under these circumstances in Medellín you find the true ones, under 30 childless, natural, never been a prostitute, not desperate to hook up with a rich guy to feed her kids and family.

For me at my stage in life this is the formula for finding the pearl in the oyster - when I feel like looking for a solid relationship.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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mecca says on Mar 26, 2007, 19:04:

correct rocinante Yes, i definately meant that in CO men over 40 rule. Hell, in the US women rule everything from the courts to dating. We've given it all away and it's sad. I agree with what you've said about finding the good ones, takes the better paying job, the stability, etc. It makes them loca.

Are you living in Medellin? I make it up that way from time to time? I'll be up that way more often late this year.

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morphus says on Mar 26, 2007, 19:32:

Rocinate, was that the Calena? She's hot! I tried getting some of that too :)

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 20:47:

Rocinante quoted: (If you are 45 and she's 25 you can bet in 10 years when she still has it together and you're pushing 60 that while you're taking your daily Geritol nap, there's a good chance she's in the boathouse doing Carlos the pool boy figuring out how the two of them are going to spend her inheritance when you croak.

Or she may be the sweetest little angel who will be faithful all the time. But how can you really know? Also if she is really faithful and does all the right things (no lying, no aggression, bad attitude and stuff like that), maybe she's not truly happy and feels inside that she sacrificed.)

There's a good chance she can be faithful and not doing the pool boy Carlos. I could be real nice and give it all away; telling you all how to keep her faithful. No it's not sex, no it's not money, and no it's not the small things. It's deeper...goes beyond all that. I'm just not able to let the gals down by telling you. "Sad that you guys being the smart men that you are" have not been able to figure it all out; yet. Boys you can continue to walk tall even if you've got no idea how you're doing it, how you did it if so, or how you're going to do it. Keep on trying though, don’t give up. Not just yet. You're getting closer and closer each century. "Se los dejo de tarea papasitos."

The truth of the matter is that we can't live without each other. Las mujeres sin los divinos hombres y ustedes sin nosotras.

Who cares about an age difference? Hey as long as older is not old.

Pero para ser honesta no puedo terminar esta linea sin recordarles que definitivamente los hombres de 20-30 estan espectaculares, son unos papis chulos, muah ricos ricos ricos!

(Estas de acuerdo KAT1? ;) oye mujer...btw tenemos que poner un tema con papis chulos para nosotras las mujeres, tambien pues!

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mecca says on Mar 26, 2007, 20:54:

we can't live without each other Great post Celle, your line above gets to the bottom of it for sure.

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Célle says on Mar 26, 2007, 21:00:

Mr. Elmo... Le agradezco su interés por mí. Aunque, usted dice no ser vulgar ni desagradable, para mi muy buena memoria recuerdo que… las cosas suyas que yo he leído aqui no concuerdan mucho con lo que usted alega “no ser.” Al menos que todo sea un personaje que a creado para hacernos a todos aquí en PBH pasarla bien u a otros mal. Quizás en la vida real sea todo un caballero, eso solo nos lo puede aclarar Kat1… que dice conocerlo mejor que nadie. No lo se, de todas maneras creo recordar que usted es un hombre casado y yo pues lamentablemente (y digo lamentablemente porque existen unos hombres casados que están hechos todos unos papis) no cojo lo que no es mió. Si no es mió no lo quiero. Usted no tiene oportunidad conmigo corazóncito. Usted aquí ya perdió el año...

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Buongone says on Mar 26, 2007, 23:19:

Aloha Shirts They are cool. Been to Hawaii a bunch of times. Was wearing one in CTG last January. Come walking out of a restaurant with my novia. Walking across the street. Some guy walking past says under his breath, GRINGO. I said to my novia, what did that guy mean. How did he know. She said don't worry. Later on as I said drinking a cold one, thinking about it. It came to me, I was wearing an Aloha shirt. That should tell you something if you don't want to be spotted as a GRINGO. Me, I still wear the shirts. But I know how to avoid being labeled as a gringo after that walk by, if I choose to.

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morphus says on Mar 26, 2007, 23:40:

I like Hawaiian shirts. My friend brought me one back from Hawaii. I wear it in Colombia sometimes. I saw an old Colombian guy in Poblado wearing the same exact one I have. I tried to talk to him but he ingnored me...lol

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raulinho says on Mar 27, 2007, 03:14:

what gets me is how people who do not undertand latin culture and don't even speak spanish expect to marry someone from colombia and for it to last (and I am not even talking age difference).

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morphus says on Mar 27, 2007, 03:33:

To those guys, the women are interchangeable. They just want a good looking woman to hump on for a couple of years. Then they go back and look for another one.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 27, 2007, 04:00:

How you know that Rubito? I HAVE MY CONTACTS YOU KNOW ;)

I just don't talk in PBH with some members.... and I know what is true and what is not....

And anyway I am not interested in Elmo (the real one)I can put up with the payaso here just for entretaining purpose. :))) I don't buy some of the stuff he said and i won't said anymore my lips are sealed.... I use to talked to elmo ages ago in pm's and he was different from his pbh character. we joined this site nearly at the same time.

BTW rubito you missed 3 more in your in your Elmo's fun club.;)

celle I don't know Elmo mejor que nadie I don't think his own wife or ex_wife!! know him either!! , not even his own friends!!huh!, i just know that here he has made a character part him part a clown. And yep I agree with should do a post about the papichulos the only thing is I don't like men under 30 year olds. what about 30 and over.;))

Ah and one word of advice Celle, never ever take Elmo seriously, just play along or p** off which it's difficult :(

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goin_south says on Mar 27, 2007, 05:12:

raulinho I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round, eh? or, is it getting square, because we do stupid stuff?

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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podborski says on Mar 27, 2007, 05:21:

I couldn't help notice Desi that your comment:

"It's normal and natural cause of events. Young women are atracted to young men and vice versa. Mother Nature intended it that way

sounds exactly like what the religious types say to deny gays the same rights as the rest of us.

Which makes me wonder, who's to say what's 'natural' in a modern world?

More importantly, whose business is it anyway?

(I am not pointing at you Desi, just this idea in general)

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 27, 2007, 06:18:

"But, from my point of view, which I would NEVER take a girl out of Colombia, at 35 in Colombia the girl has fallen off the cliff. She no longer commands anything more than a brief look in the malls from the Colombianos."

You clearly haven't seen the right 40 year old women. Or maybe you thought they were in their 30s when in fact they were in their 40s. My wife could stop traffic at 42 and she still gets way more than a brief look. You are right though that Colombianos are not interested in an older woman especially if she's got kids. Plenty of interest in sexual escapades but not for a relationship. An older Colombiana, even one who looks like Monica Bellucci, has got to look elsewhere for marriage.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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rocinante says on Mar 27, 2007, 09:32:

morph "Rocinate, was that the Calena? She's hot! I tried getting some of that too :)"-morphYes, I was sittng right next to you saw you get shot down! I didn't even bother as I knew in advance it was a dead end street. I did, however get to witness your awesome, somewhat complex technique (thanks - really!) - the technique you use in Colombia - unfortunately it doesn't work in the US for reasones explained earlier.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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rocinante says on Mar 27, 2007, 10:22:

podborski "It's normal and natural cause of events. Young women are atracted to young men and vice versa. Mother Nature intended it that way" - Desi

Women all over the globe back this up.

Like attracts like, and most people are happy with their "class" or "league" of people. I bet everyone on here had a Girlfriends/Boyfriends before they were married the first time. I bet they spoke the same language and came from similar cultures and the age difference was average (1-7 years). Yes? Same goes for the first hubby/wife as well.

In Medallo friends of my girlfriend (in their mid 20s without kids except for one chick who's got a 3 year old) have all asked me if I have any single friends that I could introduce them to. Whenever I reply, "yes but the guy is 45 and..." they drop their eyes, shake their heads and ask if I know anyone younger - I kid you not.

In other instances I tell them I have a few single friends that are my age and they get an excited look. But then I say "But they live in the US and you would have to leave here and live there" - they change the subject - uprooting their lives at this stage of their lives is not an option.

This is 100% un adulterated truth-o-la. Now one day when I'm talking to the 35 Year old with 2 kids I'll pose both scenarios and let you know what I hear....

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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mecca says on Mar 27, 2007, 10:33:

Rocinante There is alot of truth to what you say. I'm mid 30's and when talking to girls there if they are not 25 or less and beautiful (really hot) with no children, my eyes go down (as in dissapointed). 'Cause, I know I can command that in the states and for sure there in CO. So for me and any man, walk tall like the thread says. Who cares what these girls want, they are a dime a dozen in CO. It's what we want as men which matters. Come on, if we're going to be in the latin culture, act like a Latino. They are latinas, they want to be dominated.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Mar 27, 2007, 11:32:

Pod I'm glad youre not pointing at me, because I may be many things but definitely not a religious fundamentalist. Rocinante explained the "normal and natural" pretty well in his post.

What I don't get is this defensive position "why should anybody care". Nobody is judging anybody else, we're just talking. I talk about things I've experienced, heard, seen, been told to. That's my point of reference. I see young people getting together, marrying building families all around me and to be totally honest, the only May-December couples are middle-aged Swedish men with skinny little Thai girls and it doesn't look like love to me.

Now, you speak of your experience and observations that may or may not be similar to mine, but don't read anything between the lines that's not there.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang van Goethe

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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podborski says on Mar 27, 2007, 11:56:

I wasn´t reading anything into it Desi it seriously just struck me as word for word what a fundamentalist would say, and it got me thinking. Maybe I am being too narrow minded, as one Colombiana suggested when I ended our relationship on the grounds she was just too young (18 yrs difference).

Because even though I have dated quite a few much younger women (and a couple that were slightly older than I), I tend to agree with you and rocinante: younger people are GENERALLY attracted to other young people. Lots of exceptions, and some guys like older women (we know one example) and more than a few women like somewhat older men, but not grandpas of course.

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Célle says on Mar 27, 2007, 21:48:

Kat1...pero por supuesto que todo aqui es charla. Tomar a Elmo muy en serio? Na!...no podria yo tengo ya un amorcito :D

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adrimm says on Mar 27, 2007, 21:55:

"Man that would be cool.

"Man that would be cool. But, i was thinking of a having a huge coche de bebe made for when in Colombia. Just have your girl push you around the malls, laid back with a beer and wearing a smoking jacket, smoking a pipe. Now that's style."

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adrimm says on Mar 27, 2007, 22:11:

Edit: Woops wrong thread - post moved.

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mecca says on Mar 27, 2007, 23:07:

There's really no excuse for being out of shape these days. I definately agree with that. IT just feels so much better than being lazy. Man, that first breath in the morning just feels awsome !!

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mecca says on Mar 27, 2007, 23:11:

jajaja, Yep adrimm, i'm just barely here with my inhaler waiting for my medicare check. Once that comes, i'm off to CO to find a 20 year old chica to push me im my coche, Yeeee Hawwwww !!

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mecca says on Mar 27, 2007, 23:18:

UTC, i definately wasn't trying to comment on any one person. Just a "frame of mind" for when hunting the future wife/GF in Colombia. I know none of the guys on this board got their girl by being "milk toast". Latin girls like a certain swager (in my experience). Sorry, if it came out as a slam.

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 28, 2007, 06:02:

No te preocupes, dude. There are some oldies but goodies out there.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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