venezuelan anti semitism....

Sr Tertius says on Feb 7, 2008, 17:18:

Hadn't heard much about this, but I found an interesting article in IPS:

WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (IPS) - Despite objections by major Jewish organisations in Venezuela and the United States, some influential U.S. neo-conservatives are charging President Hugo Chavez with anti-Semitism, which they say is consistent with the country's friendly relations with Iran.

In what appears to be a new line of attack against the populist leader, two of the White House's favourite publications this week ran articles denouncing remarks made by Chavez in a televised address to the nation Christmas Eve as anti-Semitic.

Quoting Chavez as declaring that "minorities, the descendants of those who crucified Christ, have taken over the riches of the world", the Wall Street Journal's "Americas" columnist, Mary Anastasia O'Grady, charged that his words constituted an "ugly anti-Semitic swipe that was of a piece with an insidious assault over the past several years on the country's Jewish community".

Her column, entitled "The New Tehran-Caracas Axis", came in the wake of another article published Thursday in the neo-conservative Weekly Standard that also focused on Chavez' Christmas Eve broadcast as evidence, along with his "alliance" with Iran, of anti-Jewish animus.

"On Christmas Eve, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez's Christian-Socialist cant drifted into anti-Semitism," began the article, titled "Blast from the Past: Hugo Chavez Veers into anti-Semitism while explaining how to create a workers' paradise," by Aaron Mannes, author of the "TerrorBlog" and a book on Middle East terrorism published by the Jewish Institute of National Security Affairs.

To his credit, Mannes' rendition of Chavez' remarks included a phrase in the middle of the sentence that was omitted by O'Grady, which identified "the descendants" not only as those "that crucified Christ", but also "the descendants of the same ones that kicked (South American liberator Simon) Bolivar out of here and also crucified him in their own way over there in Santa Marta, in Colombia..."

As additional evidence of Chavez' anti-Semitism, Mannes cited his past association with "Holocaust-denying Argentine social scientist Norberto Ceresole", his praise of imprisoned terrorist Illich Ramirez Sanchez, better known as the retired terrorist "Carlos the Jackal", and his meetings with former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi. Mannes also cited Chavez' "alliance" with the Islamic Republic of Iran and its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called for Israel's destruction.

Nor was this the first time that the Weekly Standard, which, along with the Journal, has depicted Chavez as a dangerous demagogue inimical to U.S. interests in South America and beyond, has charged the Venezuelan leader with anti-Semitism.

In another article last August, for example, it wrote that "(h)ostility to Jews has become one of the hallmarks of the Venezuelan government" under Chavez... and of Chavismo, the neo-fascist ideology named for him".

The article pointed in particular to a raid carried out on the "Hebraica" Jewish elementary school in Caracas in November 2004 by police commandos who were allegedly searching for weapons linked to the bombing that killed a local prosecutor, amid rumours that the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad may have equipped the perpetrators.

"The Hebraica raid was not an isolated or random act of state-sponsored anti-Jewish violence," wrote the Standard's Thor Halvorssen, president of a New York-based group called the Human Rights Foundation, who noted that the raid coincided with Chavez' visit to Teheran. As O'Grady wrote Friday, the raid was "a way to show Tehran that Venezuela is on board".

What is remarkable, however, is that the charge of anti-Semitism, which recalls remarkably similar accusations by the Reagan administration, neo-conservatives, and the Wall Street Journal against Nicaragua's Sandinista government 20 years ago, does not appear to be shared either by close observers of Venezuelan politics here, nor by some prominent U.S. Jewish organisations or even by the leadership of the Jewish community in Venezuela.

"Chavez has a lot of rage," noted Michael Shifter, an influential and oft-quoted Andean specialist and vice-president of the Inter-American Dialogue, who has been outspoken in his criticism of the Venezuelan leadership, "but it hasn't been driven toward Jews in particular."

The Hebraica raid was ordered by a local judge acting on his own initiative without the approval or direction of the central government, according to Shifter.

As to the anti-Semitic interpretation of Chavez' Christmas Eve remarks by O'Grady and Mannes, who in fact were echoing a formal protest to Caracas last week by the Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, it was explicitly rejected by Fred Pressner, president of the Confederation of Jewish Associations of Venezuela (CAIV), as well as two major U.S. Jewish groups.

"You have interfered in the political status, in the security, and in the well-being of our community," according to a draft letter from the CIAV to the Wiesenthal Centre obtained by The Forward, the largest-circulation Jewish newspaper in the United States. "You have acted on your own, without consulting us, on issues that you don't know or understand."

"We believe the president was not talking about Jews and that the Jewish world must learn to work together," according to the draft letter, which noted that the latest protest was the third time that the Wiesenthal Center had publicly criticised Chavez without first consulting the local community.

The two U.S. groups -- the American Jewish Committee and the American Jewish Congress, both of which have Latin America divisions -- echoed Pressner's contention that Chavez' comments, when considered in their full context, including sentences that both preceded and followed the (already-abridged) sentence quoted by O'Grady and Mannes, were not aimed at Jews.

Rather, they believe the target was the white oligarchy that has dominated Venezuela's and South America's economy since colonial times -- a theme that has dominated much of Chavez' political rhetoric for the past seven years.

Whether that will make any difference in the public or internal administration debate over U.S. policy towards Chavez is doubtful, however, as both the Journal and the Standard reach a much wider audience than The Forward and are particularly influential in key administration offices, notably that of Vice President Dick Cheney. The New York Times has reported that the White House receives 50 copies of the Standard, which is edited by William Kristol.

Ironically, Kristol's father, Irving Kristol, and the Journal's editorial page to which he contributed, led a public campaign to discredit Argentine publisher Jacobo Timerman when he emerged in 1980 from two-and-a-half years of imprisonment in secret prisons in Argentina claiming that Jews like himself had been systematically singled out for the worst treatment and torture by a military regime whose ideology was as close to Nazism as any since World War II.

Unlike Venezuela today, Argentina was then seen by the incoming Ronald Reagan administration (1981-1989) and its neo-conservative backers as a vital Cold-War ally. (END/2006)

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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podborski says on Feb 7, 2008, 17:58:

jeez sr t, you make it sound like the wall street journal and the standard are biased.

But that couldn't possibly be true of IPS too could it?

Guess you could look at their website, or to save time wading through the attempt to hide their biases (as you do as well) you could read wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_Press_Service

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Sr Tertius says on Feb 7, 2008, 20:09:

your point being?

look, if it has to do with miniskirt legislation or mythical beach houses, you are right, whatever it is that you are saying.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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britabroad says on Feb 8, 2008, 09:18:

It´s always been a standard political tactic to identify a common enemy in order to rally everyone to your cause. Chaves has identified many external foes - The US, Spain, Colombia, the EU etc.
Earlier in the year he focused his attention on Spanish immigrants, now it´s the Jewish population (which must be pretty small).
Maybe it´s a sign of weakness or imagined paranoia. Who knows or cares what goes on his head. But there are certainly a number of points about Chaves´style of governing that draws many similarities to National Socialism.
I read in this week´s Semana magazine that he has also made claim to about two thirds of neighbouring ex-British colony Guyana - which is rich in natural minerals, including gold.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

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famsearch says on Feb 8, 2008, 18:46:

could guyana be the next sudetenland?

dan

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britabroad says on Feb 9, 2008, 13:18:

Well, Guyana is the only member state of the British Commonwealth in South America (unless you count the Falklands) so that would be interesting.

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slguy says on Feb 9, 2008, 14:34:

brita- just in case you wondered...yep, I'm about to wear google out, looking for your avatar chick. still no luck. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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britabroad says on Feb 11, 2008, 09:51:

Type in Cali Women on the Images search.

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kalder says on Feb 12, 2008, 10:28:

And I thought that fox was lost to us.

You good, dear, kind man.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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slguy says on Feb 12, 2008, 10:30:

I saved her before she vanished. Good Boy Scout that I am.

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kalder says on Feb 12, 2008, 10:37:

I was planning to. But I've been 'out of the office' all day, so by the time I logged on she'd gone.

You should get a Merit Badge for taste and foresight.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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slguy says on Feb 12, 2008, 11:03:

Just to clarify, the foto I saved was his original gal, who I believe he said is a former Miss Cali. No question in my mind about her...maturity. ;)

I'm beginning to wonder if taste hasn't slipped rapidly towards obsession. jajajajaja That girl is WAYYYY hot.

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