Valentine roses get dipped in chemicals

cali373 says on Feb 12, 2007, 08:32:

LET'S HEAR IT FOR DOLE FOODS, The Colombian government (Uribe included), the Colombian grower's association for allowing this to happen. Thank you for reminding me

"and ultimately, the Colombian people who have failed to force their elected representatives to enact pesticide regulations and enforce worker safety practices (granted, they have more pressing problems)."

I will start to blame the Colombian people when Colombia becomes a true democracy, not just on paper. The political elite do not allow Colombians to force their politicians to do anything. And the politicians that want true reform, get killed. The Unions (whether we like to admit it or not) are the ones that have fought to make the colombian workplace better. And Tinto, I am sure I do not need to remind you what happens to Union leaders in Colombia. Even if they are not killed, they are wrongly acused of being guerilla sympathizers, and then they get killed.



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cali373 says on Feb 12, 2007, 09:09:

Something to consider about chinese products is that they take a really long time to ship to the US and China is a lot farther away. Chinese Flowers may not be suitable for the US market unless they are flown here, which has high transportation costs compared to shipping. Is chinese labor that low that they can fly products here? I really don't know.

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podborski says on Feb 12, 2007, 13:25:

once again cali why don't YOU sell flowers without the chemicals, processed in worker friendly environments? What are YOU doing about it other than complain?

Aji1 says on Feb 13, 2007, 12:27:

Ecomonics 101 If organic anything is to ever be adopted in any industry it has to meet the same quality and cost effectiveness measures as the non-organic alternative, period. The China comment is getting at the cost effectiveness issue. The two advantages Colombia has over China is location relative to the U.S. and the European (lesser degree) markets. Secondly, since Colombia is equatorial, the energy input requirements are easier to manage in growing a profitable, marketable product. Dutch companies are already investing in production in Africa to supply the European market as a closer less expensive alternative to South America... so there you go.

David Pristupa says on Feb 13, 2007, 22:15:

Shipping Distance Although cheaper the distance to China is much greater. The shelf life would be really pressed if imported to North America.

poco says on Feb 16, 2007, 22:47:

Chemicals ? In Colombia ? You don't suppose they use CHEMICALS on GRASS ? The same grass those grass fed cows eat. You don't suppose the application is MORE than the manafacturer recommends ? How many inspectors are monitoring the use of insectcides, you know, things like concentrations, proper application, proper clothing etc. ?

When it says ORGANIC you can count on it,, can't you ?

Which flowers are real and which flowers should you hold in your teeth when doing the tango,, or dancing on tables ?



Hint: The flower in front is REAL. It is named "la flor de arrecho". I think it is either past it's prime or upside down.

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David Pristupa says on Feb 19, 2007, 01:32:

Outsourcing I find the idea of outsourcing the Flower industry to CHINA disturbing. Is North America so short of cash that it has to go China for its Roses and Carnations. Is Ecuador and Colombia now too expensive?

miamimike says on Feb 19, 2007, 02:18:

Only a Matter of Time Before China Starts Flooding The US and Canadian Market with their roses. I read where they(china) are diligently working on developing a genetic strain of a Rose that remains fresh a few days longer and also in developing an advanced Storage system to maintain the flowers for the long trip. Get ready, "they is a coming". They will kill the Ecuador/Colombia Cut flower market as they are now decimating Colombia's once booming Textile/Garment/shoe industry. How can Colombia(or any other country that floats their currency for that matter) compete fairly against the Chinese who have their Currency frozen at an unrealistic low rate???? That is truly the Root of the problem! World leaders should stand up to China and tell them if they don't unlock their Currency and truly float it then we impose a Tariff on their exports when they hit our shores! Its only fair Trade! It amazes me Bush hasn't strongarmed them(chinese) into doing this here in the USA or face losing the lucrative US Open Markets,,,

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