Uribe admits interest in a third term.

podborski says on Nov 1, 2007, 11:36:

In Canada you can be elected as many times as the people want, which makes sense to me. But I can also understand the reasons for term limits, in countries that have had bad experiences in the past.

I'd be in favour of removing term limits altogether, IF, and only IF, you could ensure free and democratic elections.

And I have no real clue as to whether that is the case in Colombia or not. I suspect things are not bad, but far from perfect?

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ColombianoGringo says on Nov 1, 2007, 11:48:

The main point is that Uribe already had the constitution changed once to meet his needs. He promised that he would not do it again and now it looks like he is reneging on his word.

I am not saying that guy hasn't done some good for Colombia, but he is not the only person capable of leading Colombia well.

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Lopezv says on Nov 1, 2007, 11:57:

That's well scary...I usually try to stay away from expressing my political points of view, but at the end the decision is made by the people who vote, whether "Doctor Uribe" changes the rules or not.

Soy, soy, soy quindianita!

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Lucas Freley says on Nov 1, 2007, 12:15:

Hecatombe is like some kind of Tsunami. But I don't think there is any in the political situation of Colombia. There is not any new event that justify a new change of the Constitution. The Constitution isn't a lyric song that you can change as you want...is the main elementary and essential Act of Rights of a Nation. So I hope that Uribe don't follow Mr. Chavez.

Cerealkiller, I understand now, what you said to me in the other thread...

Hoy que estás esplendida y que todo lo iluminas, demos un paseo, vuelta por el Universo (Gustavo Cerati)

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 12:57:

3rd term?
I don't say so very often, but.......
have to say, now:
......................................I TOLD YOU SO.................

Where do we go from here?

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ColombianoGringo says on Nov 1, 2007, 13:17:

That's funny, I remember you saying the following when I posted a thread about his cronies making similar reelection noises.

goin_south says on Wednesday October 10th, 2007 15:55:

Who Knows?
It's a mystery, I would think, at this point.
I don't think he's done so much, or there has not been so much change this time around, in Colombia, to get him re-elected.
Not that he couldn't buy some votes ;)

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ColombianoGringo says on Nov 1, 2007, 13:21:

I don't mean to start shit with ya GS, but as someone said recently "Busting balls is in the job description around here".

Peace,
CG

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Man Tequila says on Nov 1, 2007, 13:23:

Term limits in both South America and Africa have proven to strengthen democracy and institutions. I favour them everywhere, and for the reasons Lucas Freley brings up in the post on Argentina. No country is immune from abuse, corruption or nepotism.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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MitchAlvarez says on Nov 1, 2007, 13:58:

Man Tequila Right on!!

Hey I'm actually a big Uribe supporter. I actually had the opportunity to meet him in a business meeting here in NYC this summer. He was here for our annual colombian festival. I think he has done many good things for the country. But I believe this is one constitutional change I do not support.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 16:02:

okay CG... I felt 'no pain', but....
I ain't got the luxury of so much free time as some of the other posters here... to look up the numerous times I have stated forthrightly....DON'T BE SURPRISED, WHEN URIBE BEGINS SEEKING THE THIRD TERM.
But, as you quoted me above, ... yeah! I don't think he's done much the last 20 months to actually warrant getting him re-elected.
Nearly EVERYONE HERE has said it won't happen. a third term. and, numerous times, I have said and thought: if it happened once, it can happen just about as easily again.

Where do we go from here?

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Man Tequila says on Nov 1, 2007, 16:04:

GS certainly said that many times. There is a reason I never disagreed with him. It hasn''t happened... yet.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 16:05:

He's gonna need a third term, cause he ain't done chit the second one ;)
just MHO.

Where do we go from here?

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ColombianoGringo says on Nov 1, 2007, 18:20:

GS, I just happened to look at my previous thread on this topic before I posted this one and remembered your post.

My only consolation if this were to occur would be that I could vote against him. Of course, that is assuming he had a worthy opponent. I'm not just going to vote against him out of spite. Still, the simple fact is that changing the constitution to meet his desire for continued power will only serve to weaken it. If he had any honor, he would nip this in the bud right now.

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 22:30:

At this point, I would bet on him to attempt - I guess he'll have to have anothe constitutional amendment, right? - I would bet on him to attempt it.

To get elected yet... again? I have no feel or opinion.

I think, because of what I have said before... 'he ain't accomplished a whole lot this second term, ... yet .... that he would or could be challenged heartily, by a .... 'Worthy Opponent'.

We'll C.

Where do we go from here?

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Man Tequila says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:19:

His chance of running again and winning is moderate.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:27:

I think, his chance of running again is good;
of winning.. is moderate, ... or even less.

Where do we go from here?

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christobeldawg says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:35:

of running again doubtful, of winning if he does, definite

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:40:

I think He's a Show-in ;)
por ambos.
He's still .... de man.... of La Mancha? No.

Where do we go from here?

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christobeldawg says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:50:

I really like da guy. He seems to be sincere in his love for Colombia, and seems to be brave, and seems to not give a frick what other people think of him, and he is a very smart dude as well. I don't totally agree with all of his policies[as if I even knew what they are] but, along the lines of Kennedy and Reagan, he is a leader.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:53:

seems 2 B.. seems 2 b...

SEEMY SORTA GUY, ...

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:54:

don't totally agree with all of his policies[as if I even knew what they are]
You might.... after all; without even guessin ;)

Where do we go from here?

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christobeldawg says on Nov 1, 2007, 23:56:

la camp, I mean GS, do what?

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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juancegomez says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:53:

In any event, this is still just talk if there is no actual constitutional reform. So forgive me for not jumping right into the bandwagon.

And while the use of the word "hecatombe" was relatively ambiguous, it's implied by the circumstances that it would be mostly a political disaster, like the lack of a unified pro-Uribe candidacy as his replacement, rather than some imaginary terrorist attack actually masterminded by Dr. Uribe in his secret diabolical lab deep beneath the surface with the help of Nazi robots (sorry, cassini77).

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goin_south says on Nov 6, 2007, 22:58:

It would likely be about what,...... maybe still another 10 months, before he (they) start pushing for another constitutional amendment?

Where do we go from here?

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