Updated the rules

usher127 says on May 5, 15:02:

Respect to Peter... good move.

adrimm says on May 5, 15:04:

Thanks for the update Peter!

RAAAY says on May 5, 15:22:

No talk of " commercial love providers " ???

Oh noooooooo.............

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

miamimike says on May 5, 15:23:

Looks good Peter! Thanks

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —President George W. Bush,

vicshere says on May 5, 15:25:

does that mean no more useage of cucha/puta/pregagos...wahhooo

listo

webmanco says on May 5, 15:43:

thanks Peter, is there any part where libel and slander will fit, also anything about abuse of Private Messages?

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

rocinante says on May 5, 15:46:

Can I be part of the drama too?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

webmanco says on May 5, 15:48:

Sorry rocinate casting is over.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

rocinante says on May 5, 15:54:

OK I won't contribute to the drama but I would like to at least be a part of the posts that occur during the heat of the drama. Deal?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

RAAAY says on May 5, 15:55:

Will this thread get deleted for over use of the term," commercial love provider "

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

webmanco says on May 5, 15:55:

Rocinante
Do you deliver?
Any links?

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

rocinante says on May 5, 15:57:

I have never seen a thread or a link to a commercial love provider here on PBH. This site is pretty weak in the way of leads. Maybe I'm just late to the party.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

CatGirl says on May 5, 17:00:

Webman "is there any part where libel and slander will fit, also anything about abuse of Private Messages?"

Nice question, jaja. Libel and Slander can be a bit subjective. May need to be more specific - possibly if you are able to prove that the persons slanderous remarks caused you personal or financial damage?

Private Messages...Yeah. I wish.....Good thoughts Webman.

docwilliam says on May 5, 18:05:

Looks good Peter, but how are you going to eliminate the people with multiple handles? Can it be done? I would really like to know that this works because as it stands now, unless you see the person on a messenger webcam (live) you have no idea who you are talking to.

There's no time to panic !!!

Rubito says on May 5, 18:09:

I would suggest you put a link to sites where people CAN talk about paid sex so that all such traffic could be directed there.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

MitchAlvarez says on May 5, 18:31:

aqui ya ni se puede hablar de mujeres pues!! que pereza hablar de politica todos los dias. no mijo asi si no....

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 5, 18:36:

You can still post pics of your 5 and 6 out of 10 hood rats if you want, as long as you didn't pay for sex with them ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

robi666 says on May 5, 19:02:

Thanks for your excellent work Peter.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

MitchAlvarez says on May 5, 19:07:

i was worried. jaja thanks

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Gator says on May 5, 20:10:

Thank Peter and the mods. Give it your best shot.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

bogotabrian says on May 5, 20:48:

Finally now know what "trolling" really means.

CanadaMan says on May 5, 21:20:

bogotabrian,

I have to admit I like to troll on occasion..




...

It beats fishing off the dock... I would rather be in a boat trolling while I fish..



..

Formerly WidowerfromCanada

Frank Rizzo says on May 5, 22:18:

Thanks Peter....!!

kalder says on May 6, 04:30:

Does that preclude academic/sociological discussions of prostitution? Working conditions, societal mores, legal position etc?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

Peter (Moderator) says on May 6, 08:19:

Kalder: yes. I have nothing against prostitution, but academic discussions will inevitably devolve on the site as things are right now, so they're not allowed. At least that rule is easy to remember :)

Poor but snappy

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 6, 09:58:

I don't think Peter needs to provide a link for sex tourists who stray on this site either; it's enough that we make it clear that this one isn't one of them.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on May 6, 10:44:

what happened to my invaluable contribution? jajaja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Rubito says on May 6, 11:01:

Well it's up to him, but you will find that a lot less people will BOTHER to talk about things that aren't appropriate for the site when they know where the LEGITIMATE avenue of such discussions is located, and it will make both of your jobs a LOT easier.

Kalder, if you want to talk about that go to the "opinions" section of internationalsexguide.info ... plenty of great posts there! You will even find dead honest in-your-face info from REAL working girls.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 11:07:

rubito where is that? is it a link? im lost man. jaja

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 11:09:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=274... copy it now in case it's not allowed to stay here ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 11:10:

rubito i just googled it and i ended up in the page. they charge 20 bucks per year? is it worth it man? or is this a scam?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 11:14:

you dont need to pay unless you want to exchange PMs and see photos. If you're really just going there to read the threads its free.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 11:15:

oh ok cool. are the pictures worth it? have you seen them?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 11:19:

I honestly don't know whether to you they'd be worth it or not. I'm a senior member because of my contributions so I've never had to pay shit.

To be honest, a lot of us don't put out the absolute best info anymore on that or any other site because there are too many idiots that screw things up in every conceivable way.

That link I sent you do is where all the academic discussions take place, so they don't clutter up the threads that are supposed to be for reports and photos. I actually find it the most fascinating part of the site.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 6, 11:21:

"academic discussions" on a site about prostitutes.
--------------------------

Hmmm... Do they have PhDs? Or is that the "naughty Catholic schoolgirl" section?

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 11:23:

rubito thanks for the info. ill def check it out man.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 11:29:

Yeah Tinto and you guys could learn a lot from how that forum is run. Ad hominem attacks are IMMEDIATELY deleted on there. Hell, unless you're a senior member you won't get a chance to make one as posts are moderated BEFORE they appear.

Go to the opinions section and watch as the scales fall off your eyes, especially the "Morality Of Prostitution" section. You will hear REAL stories from REAL prostitutes instead of mushy sentimental fantasy like you hear on here, or deliberately skewed "facts" like you hear on the news.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

kalder says on May 6, 11:35:

Perhaps not 'academic', but there's some serious enough stuff there. Cheers Rubito.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

mranderson says on May 6, 11:55:

I can't display that page. Maybe it's unreachable from UNE medellin.

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:12:

are we still allowed to post pictures of attractive colombianas? of course no naked and pictures of that type.

YES or NO??

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:12:

ie.


la quite pa que no jodan mas

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 12:13:

You have ALL of my permission ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:16:

im waiting for desi or any moderator... to respond. i dont think there is anything wrong with pics. but the way things are going on around here a new thing gets banned every other week.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:22:

It's Peter's call.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:24:

but do you find a picture offensive desi? do you see a valid reason why a picture like the one above should be deleted? i just want to make sure so that in the future i dont post any.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

huskie says on May 6, 12:29:

Why don't you all putos in here go somewhere else and post your devieties there?

Like Peter said " THIS IS NOT A SITE THAT PROMOTES PROSTITUTION"

Move on!!!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:32:

lo que pasa mitch es que promueve el turismo sexual guste o no

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:32:

huskie and this picture promotes prostitution? they arent even that type of girls? are you stereotyping because you see an attractive women?

plus dont call me puto parcero....... deje eso pa LA o tijuana.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:32:

I don't think it's offensive... I don't see any valid reason why a picture like that should be POSTED in the first place.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:34:

ponga unas chicas mas decenticas, esas tienen una pinta de guisitas

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:35:

what if im having a discussion with a pbher about colombian woman, not talking about prostitutes but simply comparing the beauty of women from diffferent regions. say i post a dark skinned, light skinned, and other friends? how far will pbh go with censorship?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Rubito says on May 6, 12:36:

Gee Kat I was thinking the exact opposite. Finally Mitch posts some nice looking girls!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

huskie says on May 6, 12:38:

and if you do not like it, I am sure the putos here can direct you to the more " enlightening, challenging and intellectually refreshing" postings and photos which I am sure will make you very happy, rather than this boring PBH which it's sole purpose is to advise on Travel, not where to find whores
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:39:

they are not ugly and i am sure they will look better in a more tasteful clothes

kalder says on May 6, 12:41:

That's a point. They look like they're wearing Primark carrier bags.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:41:

btw there are clothes that you can look sexy and elegant, this girls look cheap

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:42:

cheap? jajaj kat no seas tan mala

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 12:43:

they are simply showing legs? its not like they were half naked and stuff. you guys are hilarious

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

aztec says on May 6, 12:45:

As I have said freedom of expression is in the eye of the beholder. Controversy begins when someone takes it upon themselves to be the arbiter of morality.

A prime example are the two girls just posted here. From all indications they are normal "nice" young women from Colombia. Someone has already jumped to the conclusion they are prostitutes. It wouldn't take much change in the dynamics of the photo to cross the line. But therein lies the rub. Who decides where the line is drawn.

Once one begins to intercede that becomes a full time job.

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:46:

the thing is those legs are too fat for that kind of clothes, that's why they look cheap,

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:48:

If you posted a picture of your mother, wife, girlfriend or daughter (with clothes on) and with her permission then I'd say fine. Posting pin-ups just for the sake of it has nothing to do with this forum.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:49:

ok i am going to give them the benefit of the doubt :))))

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 12:49:

but still they are wearing the wrong clothes people will make assumptions

aztec says on May 6, 12:50:

kat1, they don't appeal to me either but isn't that irrelevant?

aztec says on May 6, 12:55:

In fact I will go a little further. The photo makes me a little uncomfortable. They look too young and we don't want to be involved in the exploitation of young women.

huskie says on May 6, 12:55:

Boy this guy Rubi has " A fine taste in women" LMAOL

and yes Mitch you will be a puto parcero specially if you are promoting prostitution in Colombia, te deberia dar verguenza! Que tal que tu mama te oyera o tus tias, primas, hermanas, abuelas y demas mujeres en tu familia
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:00:

aztec, someone who is not Colombian and come to this site first time and there talk about Colombian women and which one is better and so and so and see this picture will think Colombia as sexual destination, even if the girls are not prostis, and i agree aztec they do look very young even more to be more concern for some people not to get the wrong idea.

slguy says on May 6, 13:00:

jesus h christ.....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:01:

see? jejejejejej

sloopskipper says on May 6, 13:01:

They are not unattractive, but sure look like they might offering something for sale, or at least for rent.

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:02:

jaja promoting what? deja de hablar bobadas

puse la foto de unas mujeres que conozco personalmente. no son putas ni prepagos ni nada. y todos se vuelven locos. desi ya las llamo prostitutas despues que tengo que pedir permiso commonnn this is unbelievable.

despues kat disque estan muy gordas jajja

aztec como que nunca ha visto una joven attractiva sin que le den emociones y ya esta pidiendo auxilio. commonnnn uncomfortable? so im assuming you dont watch tv? read magazines or newspapapers? nada porque en todas partes hay mujeres atractivas mostrando piernas. btw they are no underage... like i said i know them.

y de huskie mejor me quedo callado... que dramaticismo e inventando chismes. i have never promoted prostitution. si te duele la conversacion y me atacas con eso es porque algo sabras del tema.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:10:

Mitch, yo no las llamé prostitutas.
Si son chicas "normales" o sea amigas tuyas o familiares debes pedirles el permiso para publicar sus fotos en un foro. Toda persona educada debería saber eso.

Si son modelos o promocionando algun tipo de "mercancía" no tienen nada que ver en este foro.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

buggy says on May 6, 13:12:

MitchAlavarez said :"are we still allowed to post pictures of attractive colombianas? of course no naked and pictures of that type."

Are you sure the two girls are 18 years old?

Rubito says on May 6, 13:12:

I admit I like my women a little slutty looking. But Kat, FAT legs???? If anything they could use a little MORE meat on em. Maybe something's wrong with my screen here??

I actually think people look best in their birthday suits. Especially women with fat legs like that :P

Mitch try posting a pic of some hot Tyrese looking dude with his shirt off. Maybe Huskie will be alittle happier then! :)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

huskie says on May 6, 13:13:

No se que esta implicando con eso " de que yo sabre algo del tema" usted ni me conoce como para decir eso. Yo le digo que usted promueve, pues siempre salta a comentar con mucho entusiasmo cuando el tema se discute y anda preguntando donde estan los enlaces de los sitios de pornografia y prostitucion, al menos eso es lo que yo he leido. La conversacion no me duele, lo que me duele es el abuso y la porqueria que se pone en el sitio!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:15:

desi ya te dije que las conozco pero no les pedi permiso porque no son fotos raras ni provocativas.

buggy: 100% sure

rubito: jajaj lol funny


anyways ok ill take the picture off.... aqui todo el mundo esta censurando todo. una foto muy normal y todos se alborotan. ni que fuera pues una cosa de otro mundo.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

aztec says on May 6, 13:16:

We should recognize many people already believe some of the most beautiful women in the world live in Colombia. We can't change that perception nor should we try.

We can however, do our part to convince the curious that women are basically the same everywhere. We should at least attempt to disabuse men in particular of the notion that young girls in Colombia are fair game for exploitation.

Rubito says on May 6, 13:18:

I don't see the point.

Let people be stupid enough to believe that. Generally what happens is that THEY are the ones who end up getting manipulated and exploited by some astute Colombian, and personally, nothing gets my dick harder than hearing about another one of those tontos getting their just desserts :)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

sloopskipper says on May 6, 13:23:

Duplicate

aztec says on May 6, 13:24:

MitchAlvarez didn't mean to offend. Perhaps I am just gettng too old. Admittingly, I may be out of touch with the younger people.

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:24:

ok voluptuous they are a bit voluptuous and yes the photos are provocative not to me but to the male members.;)))

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:30:

just one more provocative picture for you guys.

desi im in the process of reaching out to them for their approval

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:32:

how about this one? is this dress too revealing?

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:35:

or should we stick to only

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

billyb says on May 6, 13:37:

Mitch, the ones giving the finger are kind of hot, do you have their numbers? LOL.

Rubito says on May 6, 13:38:

Nice hijab!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

webmanco says on May 6, 13:41:

Nothing wrong with pretty, ugly, slim, fat, naked whatever, but yes some issues with the childless turn given to this thread.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

MitchAlvarez says on May 6, 13:42:

one of the viejitas is showing some leg.

kat is she too fat? jajaj

buggy: do you want an id check on them ?

aztec: are you uncomfortable with the above pictures? i promise you that im not promoting senior citizen exploitation.

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:43:

i think the girls in the red are quite pretty. you see you don't need to dress like a "slut" to look sexy :)))

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 13:45:

oiga Mitch the ones with the viejitas maybe to provocative for buggy jejeje

Rubito says on May 6, 14:03:

I very much question your definiton of "sexy" Kat. You've definitely been living in the UK for too long ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 14:06:

you ask this question what is sexy , and youl will have different answers, is not that i have been living in the UK too long is that what is sexy to me can be different to you

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 14:09:

example you find voluptuous girls sexy, many don't, for others a funny girl can be very and so on

billyb says on May 6, 14:16:

for buggy sexy might simply mean that she's still drawing a breath.

robi666 says on May 6, 14:20:

I wish that someone will kill a sex tourists or two. Or Colombia getting back to a more primordial state.
Maybe we'll get different people visiting here.
Muerte a los gringos.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

Frank Rizzo says on May 6, 14:22:

I'd have to agree Robi... mas los valle.

robi666 says on May 6, 14:35:

On a more serious note, where is poverty there is that kind of tourism and people.
If we have luck, Colombia will be out of that shit in some years. And on that ugly board, ugly people will talk about and keep their ghetto somewhere else

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

huskie says on May 6, 14:37:

at Rubi: I do not know who Tyrese is, but the pictures below make me very happy
Cheers


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"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

Rubito says on May 6, 14:38:

robi Italians on the coasts don't seem to do too well come to mention it. Better watch your shadow ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

robi666 says on May 6, 14:44:

90% of Italians I met on the coast deserve an ugly death. That's simple and straight.
I stopped being proud of being Italian many years ago, studying the philosophy of the ancient greek and latin. None with an average mind and average culture should be proud of his own nationality.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

huskie says on May 6, 15:11:

and these

Victim of domestic violence
YWCA Women's Shelter
Bridgeport, Connecticut

Gwyneth Paltrow and Blythe Danner
Actresses
Vancouver, British Columbia


Christiane Amanpour (center), Maria Fleet (left), and Jane Evans (right)
CNN war correspondent and camerawomen
London, England

Jorie Graham
Poet
New York City

Jerry Hall and Gabriel Jagger
Model and her son
New York City

Raymonda Davis
Soldier
Basic training, Fort Jackson,
Columbia, South Carolina

Polly Weydener
Retired chiropractor's assistant
Beach Patrol headquarters public restroom, Miami Beach, Florida

Asabi Romera, Ajiki, Adeniyin, Ogunlana, and Omudunbi Henderson
Follower of Yoruba religion and her family
Miami, Florida
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

RAAAY says on May 6, 15:15:

So...Peter's post about not allowing any further discussion of hookers etc, has denegrated into a whole long thread about..........guess what.............hookers.........


MitchAlvarez says
......." how far will pbh go with censorship? "

You can't really call it censorship.................The powers that be want to allow discussion on some things and prohibit others............seem reasonable to me............


And..Robi...........I heard a story yesterday, of a sex tourist from Canada being shot after leaving one of those brothels, down the street from me in Laureles. It's just off the corner on 76 and 33 Av. I saw the blood stains on the pavement this morning. One guy told me that the Canadian is dead, another said he is badly injured and in hospital. Apparently, his only "crime" was, being in this place. No other incidents with anybody, no robbery, no nothing.


.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

huskie says on May 6, 15:37:

Roger Federer has a shot at becoming one of the greatest athletes ever, and he's not even playing at his peak yet. Photos by Annie Leibovitz.

Senator Barack Obama behind his desk on Capitol Hill. (Photo: Annie Leibovitz)


In this photo released by Colombia's Presidency, Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe, left, gives an accordion to Juan Bautista Escalona, a musician child, during the 41th Vallenato Festival in Valledupar, northern Colombia, Wednesday, April 30, 2008.

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

slguy says on May 6, 15:45:

"We should at least attempt to disabuse men in particular of the notion that young girls in Colombia are fair game for exploitation"

and we begin this righteous pursuit where, exactly? with foreign men? or w/ colombian society that overlooks young girls bearing the children of much older colombiian men?

frankly, aztec, that horse you're riding in this thread is pretty high, dontcha think?

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

huskie says on May 6, 15:46:

French President Nicolas Sarkozy, left, greets Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, right, as he arrives for a meeting at the Elysee Palace, Paris, Monday, Jan. 21, 2008. Uribe said Monday he is seeking French help in putting together an international medical mission to check on hostages held by leftist rebels in Colombia's remote jungles.
by CHRISTOPHE ENA

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

Monpirri says on May 6, 16:16:

I agree with Robi666, "I wish that someone will kill a sex tourists or two. Or Colombia getting back to a more primordial state.
Maybe we'll get different people visiting here."

"On a more serious note, where is poverty there is that kind of tourism and people.
If we have luck, Colombia will be out of that shit in some years. And on that ugly board, ugly people will talk about and keep their ghetto somewhere else."

Paisano you have my utmost respect for you and your family.

Respectfully,
MAC

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

lpdiver says on May 6, 17:37:

Congratulations on the one handle per user rule. As far as I am concerned it is the single most productive change.

t

"cook some rice!"

webmanco says on May 6, 18:18:

Just one handle? oh well, somebody else will take the ParaQuito one.

:-)

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

vicshere says on May 6, 21:01:

my question is ...if anyone one to grab it?
Are puppies going to have different rules appied to them?

listo

Rubito says on May 6, 21:09:

Robi I hope you're not calling me "ugly" or "ghetto" surely you would never personally attack another PBH poster like that would you? :) :) :)

Huskie, very ironic you have a photo of an American family in Miami following Yoruba beliefs. How do you think Saint Uribe would feel if people in Colombia started doing the same thing?

Yours Truly, Rubio, Hijo de Chango y Ochun :)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

PALEOLITICO says on May 6, 21:10:

Seria posible también colocar el reglamento en la sección en Español ??.

Y muchas gracias a Peter por esta MUY BUENA CREACIÓN y a los mods por su trabajo.

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

romy says on May 6, 21:48:

What a turn of events

was it within the rules to post Jerry Hall breast feeding?

"I wish that someone will kill a sex tourists or two. Or Colombia getting back to a more primordial state" wasn't Aguilas Negras supposed to do something about this... better fire up that aguilas_negras at hotmail.com account.

and Rubito is talking about getting a "hard on"...

it seems a little saner in the politics and war section

Rubito says on May 6, 22:01:

That reminds me, Huskie you seriously don't expect us to masturbate to those pics you posted do you? And Hillary... ewwwwwwwwwwww.... that's one person who's head I'd like to see on a pole!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

romy says on May 6, 22:11:

come on you know you will. particularly to the picture of Polly Weydener

goin_south says on May 6, 22:19:

Carramba! Looks like I missed a party, here ;-o)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on May 6, 22:20:

no mas sailor jerry? Am I kidding you? jjeje

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Monpirri says on May 7, 05:33:

You just got here on time, they are trying to make out this important topic a comedy central extravaganza.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Monpirri says on May 7, 05:36:

PALEOLITICO, claro que si siempre y cuando tu y Peter esten de acuerdo de eliminar todo tipo de temas que categorize a nuestro pais como destino para los turistas de la prostitucion.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 7, 05:42:

if we follow the rules i don't see any trouble ahead and will make moderators jobs a bit easier,

why is so difficult to follow those rules?

Monpirri says on May 7, 05:58:

GS, please bring couple of bottles of that good stuff we have some here who are eager to mingle.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

morphus says on May 7, 05:59:

Why so dificult? Because the rules are'nt enforced 100%. So why am I going to follow the rules if they don't protect me?

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 7, 06:03:

Morphus they are being enforced, the thing is if you get attack and you retaliated the same way, this never is going to go away. You can retaliate without going down to their level.

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 7, 06:07:

I know some are just joking or attacking in a "joke" or fun way, but some can be a bit too much and i know you and GS are going into each other throat for sometime.

morphus says on May 7, 06:11:

Not me! I've ignored a lot of snide remarks on here.

Monpirri says on May 7, 06:15:

Let's get back to the main topic and let's not try to make these two member the main focus.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

slguy says on May 7, 06:16:

i'm gettin' a little tired of kat's constant attacks on me! a guy needs to rest occasionally!

no, wait...was a dream.

never mind.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 7, 07:36:

LOL slguy...Don't get me start on you know

slguy says on May 7, 07:45:

you know very well - you are free to start on me whenever you wish...jajajaja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

CatGirl says on May 7, 16:30:

jaja - looks like I missed the show, you guys have been busy over the past 2 days, jajaja

morphus says on May 8, 04:32:

Hey what happened to the rules?

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 8, 07:42:

yes, the insults between you too are becoming quite nasty, i think you both are good members of PBH so if you don't like each other why don't you try to avoid each other instead of moderator going behind you a** deleting every comment, and remember THE IGNORE BUTTON BOYS THE IGNORE BUTTON,,IT'S not there just for decoration you know :))

kalder says on May 8, 07:51:

I used to like the fights between Morphus and Mario.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

goin_south says on May 9, 00:39:

kat1, are you kidding me?
Morphus is one of my FAVORITE PBH CHARACTERS !

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on May 9, 00:39:

or... caricatures. jja

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

pedro says on May 10, 16:12:

Peter, quick question.

If someone wants to talk about the great Colombian tradition of sex with donkeys, is that still permitted?

How about where to find donkeys?

¡save pow wow!

vicshere says on May 10, 16:13:

humm the last post should be flagged??

listo

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:20:

i know Vich, Pedro that is silly and you know it and that is a silly question. this is in elmo's fantasy world , do you believe everything he said? now if you post something like that sorry but the deleted button is coming. now lay off the aguardiente please

webmanco says on May 10, 16:25:

Elmo did make the burro fantasy a reality he proved it.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:25:

yeah right

slguy says on May 10, 16:32:

elmo's line about never visiting friends' fincas for fear of being overcome by burra lust was a classic!! i still laugh whenever i think about it.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

webmanco says on May 10, 16:33:

Elmo will never forget.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

pedro says on May 10, 16:33:

Actually Kat, I'm just flagging this question myself as a public service. It's a gap in the rules.

If you check the rules by clicking Peter's original post, you'll see it's not covered under any category.

I hope a sense of humour is not outlawed under the new rules?

And you will hear about the burra thing all over the coast. It's not something out of Elmo's imagination.

¡save pow wow!

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:36:

yeah pedro but this is not a great Colombian tradition as you put it, maybe elmo and his friend were desperated jejej

heloowwwwwwwwwwwwwww I am costeña and most of my family still living on the coast , although i know there is some sick people out there, some like burras other sheep.;))))

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:40:

oh maybe a burra is elmo's fantasy jijiji

pedro says on May 10, 16:41:

OK, maybe I should rephrase to "great Colombian urban legend".

But please don't deny that you'll hear about this all over the costa. They are selling T-shirts about donkeys, figurines of guys loving up donkeys...

¡save pow wow!

slguy says on May 10, 16:42:

i remember a video being posted here about how widespread this burra-love thing is - with locals explainiing...

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:44:

it is a legend i must admit, and you know people like to make money out of legends. although i heard another history about that legend but i am not sure if it is suitable for pbh ...

vicshere says on May 10, 16:47:

it was a legend started by a costano with a small peepee

listo

webmanco says on May 10, 16:48:

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:48:

jajajaj vicsh you are getting closer to the legend

vicshere says on May 10, 16:50:

flag flag flag

listo

vicshere says on May 10, 16:50:

i just noticed i can flag my own comments woohoo i can save everyone time now

listo

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 10, 16:52:

vicshere says on May 10, 16:50: flag

i just noticed i can flag my own comments woohoo i can save everyone time now

eh?

webmanco says on May 10, 16:54:

Talking about donkeys

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

vicshere says on May 10, 16:55:

next to the edit there is a flag button on my own comment

listo

MitchAlvarez says on May 10, 20:01:

vichshere is the wanna be moderator i see

Tengale miedo a una huelga de mujeres o a una escacez de aguardiente. :)

vicshere says on May 10, 20:37:

humm i also see now you can't go back and edit your comments after a certain amount of time

listo

RAAAY says on May 11, 01:17:

Peter ......I understand you added a flag button several days ago................do you think there might be any idiots out there that have'nt noticed that yet..?


probably not...........nobody could be that dumb....

and the new edit button......??..............is there a remote possibility that somebody can't figure out the basics of that yet...???............nawwwww.....probably not......nobody could be that dumb..................or ......perhaps.....noooooo.................could there be somebody....???



.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

christobeldawg says on May 11, 01:22:

is there no more what my friends are doin feature? Overall, I like it, but it is still weird. Thanks Peter for even having this site, but I don't thus far see any improvement with the changes, to be honest. How much did you pay this geek to help with these changes? Can you get your money back?

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 11, 01:48:

Christobel.....I believe Peter is the "geek" himself. :)))

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 11, 01:50:

I think the changes are all good; flag button, more power to moderators, time-limited edit button is good

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

RAAAY says on May 11, 01:54:

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 11, 01:50: flag

I think the changes are all good; flag button, more power to moderators, time-limited edit button is good






Desi..............Is there a remote possibility that someone has'nt noticed these changes yet.................nawwwwwwwww.......probably not............


...........

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

robi666 says on May 11, 03:53:

LOL... Ray is drunk again... you should have come tonite....
goooooooo

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."