University disturbances: 4 Police Officers Burnt in Neiva

romy says on Apr 29, 2008, 23:56:

There seems to be an increased (violent) student movement in Colombia as of late... La Nacional and Univalle incidents come to mind

poco says on Apr 30, 2008, 00:06:

Humm,, could be they saw ignorant students in France burning cars,,, and,, well,, missed and Immolated the police???

The good ole days,, I'm old enough to remember the Watts Riots in the U.S.

Seems some students at,, I think,, South Texas University in Houston,, took over a school building. The police arrived, asked them to leave and when they didn't,, opened fire with 30 cal. automatics,, blew a corner of the building off,, and guess what,, the students decided their tactics weren't conducive to their health. Houston has never had much of a problem.

Maybe why that's why Houston has always faired better than most parts of the country. Speak softly and carry a big stick?

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

adrimm says on Apr 30, 2008, 00:08:

I think it happens in cycles. My mother says that there were alot of violent demonstrations at La Nacional in the 60s. She recalls one incident where acid was dumped on police officers, blinding them permanently.

On this last trip, chatting with one of my cousins she mentioned that "the students" did X and Y.. had a lot of control over campus, and not always in constructive ways. She was mentioning that student housing was an issue and that the residences on many campuses were practically unlivable becuase many students trashed them. I suggested deposits and she said the students would riot over being required to give a deposit for their housing!! (?!!) ..

IMHO, permanently & intentionally injuring someone is criminal. The universities there need to get a tighter grip. Those students should be expelled and blacklisted from all universities for a few years.

kalder says on Apr 30, 2008, 00:36:

Spoiled little thugs.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

romy says on Apr 30, 2008, 00:43:

Students have to be allowed to protest though, I believe this is fundamental in a democracy. And the history of police brutality towards students in Colombia is not too pleasant. Hearing of students being killed or injured in protests is particularly hurtful for me because it is too close to home.

ESMAD at Univalle 2008, thank God for cellphone cameras this was captured, the world needs to know (actually this is how videos from Myanmar and Tibet are being captured)


Police brutality, somehow denied


March by students and supporters

kalder says on Apr 30, 2008, 00:52:

They should be allowed to march up and down shouting things. But that's it.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

adrimm says on Apr 30, 2008, 01:00:

Of course protests should be allowed, but violence should be punished severely. All involved should have the discipline to keep it violence-free. That said I suppose that when people start getting in each other's face it can be challenging to maintain the hands-off.

poco says on Apr 30, 2008, 02:00:

Quote: Students have to be allowed to protest though, I believe this is fundamental in a democracy.
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That's funny,, I thought they were there to learn,, especially in Colombia.

If was was footing the bill and found out the person was so much as ATTENDING a protest,, just watching would be enough,, I'd immediately cut off any money,,right now,, immediately and forever.

Then,, I'd find a $50,000 per month room,, pay it for a year and say good luck.

Yep,, the kids around me know,, for a fact,, this is NOT A JOKE,, they've learned I never joke.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

adrimm says on May 1, 2008, 19:53:

Anyone (not just students) should be allowed to protest, but protesting must be done peacefully. There is actually a little group fof people in my community who protest something different every 2 weeks. From April to October, at 9 am on odd Saturdays they can be found marching up one of the streets in downtown with banners, signs and tambourines. Same people but they change different causes, every two weeks. It's great.

slguy says on May 1, 2008, 19:59:

funny story, adrimm. they just need to vent, i reckon. ;)

"Spoiled little thugs" - exactly.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 1, 2008, 20:58:

Gasoline and 2nd and 3rd degree burns? Sounds like the students need to be charged with attempted murder.