Una pregunta para Colombianas

umm says on Jan 13, 2005, 07:21:

at the end it always depends on how much money you have.

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 13, 2005, 08:58:

Isn't it all about expectations? If she's expecting a gravy train (a.k.a. Sugar Daddy) and you're expecting to be said sugar daddy, then it could last a long time.

In general, problems can arise in a relationship, with a latina or any other person, when expectations fail to be met.

One thing about people in their twenties is their expectations of the world and the people in it are still evovling...generally much more quickly than those of someone in their 40s or 50s. So you run the risk of looking good to her now, but starting to pale to her later. You'll be getting older and her expectations will be getting higher.

If you're looking to always have the "latest model" in your showroom, IMO you should avoid marriage as the transaction costs to trade-up can become quite burdensome. If you just want a pretty-young-thing to be your trophy bride, then, again, I'd still avoid marriage and, at the very least, stay out of states/countries with strong community property laws.

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justino says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:09:

Who cares about chances? You know what you want. You don't need statistics. They'll only demotivate you. Go make it happen! The people who say you can't or it's unlikely - screw em. Make em jealous. Prove em wrong.

There's plenty of desperate women out there to go around!

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thundernco says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:25:

Not a big issue. One of things that I had to get through my head was my self imposed age restrictions. I have a friend who is 300 yrs senior to his wife, married 5 yearr and both happy. Myself I'm also a bit older than my wife, and we've been together almost as long. See this often, and no it's not always about the money. If you're cool, and younger women are usually attracted to you anyways, you'll have no issue. -TNC

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nanis says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:35:

ok i think that personality is most important! i really think that some young colombian guys can be really immature sometimes, i for one always used to go for older men because what appeals to me is not just age and looks but personality and respect and experience of course! although most girls in colombia would go for older men to escape pressures in their house, to help their families out, and because it might help her get what she wants i.e studying, good clothes etc, lets face it in colombia most girls don't go for ugly old guys with no money if they do go for them it might be because these guys are way better in bed than the young unexperienced ones..

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:39:

ok, I've got it now the girls in Colombia would only go for an older man if there was some gain in it for them...how very romantic:)
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Miguel says on Jan 13, 2005, 09:45:

Pero... Me gustaria hablar con ese hombre que tienes 300 años!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:23:

or much older he says "friend who is 300 yrs senior to his wife, married 5 yearr and both happy". Not knowing the age of the wife it's really hard to try to guess his age. I'd suspect that this couple might not be able to have any babies.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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cremaster says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:25:

So ¨in colombia most girls don't go for ugly old guys with no money if they do go for them it might be because these guys are way better in bed than the young unexperienced ones..¨

So, you´re saying I´ve got a chance!

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cremaster says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:29:

Desi I can understand you having a low opinion of the gringo´s in Colombia. Most of them are quite socially retarded, after all.
But, why do you have such a poor opinion of the Colombiana´s ??? I remember some of your posts on CaliGringo, and I wondered the same thing then.

Patrick

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:36:

cremaster I don't have a low opinion of Colombianas at all! The above post was entirely inspired by the previous post written by a Mrs. Gomez, an authentic Colombiana. In that post she explained the reasons why a younger girl would go for a man much to her senior. Every reason she stated indicates a benefit or a gain for the girl from such relationship.
I don't have a low opinion of all gringos in Colombia either. Yes, there was a crowd in CaliGringo that somehow were able to bring out all the worst in me.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Miguel says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:43:

Digame Are we talking about cali gringo or cali pro?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2005, 10:54:

miguel about CaliGringo board that doesn't exist any longer, but if I'm not wrong you were posting there too.
The crowd there received me with a brick in their hands and the hostility was almost unbearable. I weathered it and never even once used all the info I was getting pmed to me against anybody, even my worst attackers. In the end I was invited to be one of the moderators there and that's when the site went down:)
Back to cremaster's post:

Why would I be one of the few females here who have a large number of female Coombian friends in real life; some of them I've had over a great number of years, if I didn't have a good opinion of them? I think the problem is that I see them as normal human beings, not some kind of goddesses, just sisters that have the same shortcomings and strengths as everybody else. Remember that I lived quite happily for 12 years in Colombia, met daily a good number of Colombians, both male and female, from equal premises. Many of the posters can't take a negative opinion about Colombianas because they idolize them. Well, I don't. I like Colombians, men and women, but that doesn't prevent me to see faults and weaknesses as much as I'm always there to point out the strengths and assets too.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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caslug says on Jan 13, 2005, 11:07:

albatross, why don't you.. pm calipro or read his post. He's practicaly ONLY dating women 15-20 yrs younger AND he's get them to pose for him too. He quite controversal on this board, but very entertaining. You should thank him because he's fought the battle for you with some poster's here. I notice that hardly anyone is attacking you for wanting date young-uns. As for marrying-em, odds are against you, but like anything it'll always be a individual situation.

For example, women in their 20's (even in the US) tend to enjoy going out more, ie clubing, bars, etc., The younger they are the more they going out. If you're on vacation in COL or anywhere, keeping up w/ them is NOT a problem, because it's vacation for you. BUT i can't imagine doing going clubbing EVERY weekend. Which i used to do myself until 4 yrs ago.

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thundernco says on Jan 13, 2005, 14:05:

A typo, sorry it should have read 30. A small typo but as usual Desi, you prove that common sense is an uncommon virtue. My friend is in his late 50's and looks great (fitness superfreak), and she in her late 20's. Don't make assumptions Desi... -TNC

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cremaster says on Jan 13, 2005, 16:03:

Desi Then maybe you just have a low opinion of people in general. I´m not trying to be a dick here. But, I´ve noticed a certain attitude or outlook in your posts - especially on CaliGringo.
Maybe this is the big difference between Europeans and Americans. Their expectations of others.

Patrick

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lpdiver says on Jan 14, 2005, 04:49:

Gold Diggers They have them in all countries. Keep your eyes open. Is a woman 20 years younger than you in the good ol USA interested in dating you? They will become Americanized very fast. If you are truly looking for a long lasting marriage I would narrow the gap a bit.

My wife is six years younger than me and looks 10-15 years younger than her age. She married me because I showed her a great deal of respect. Something she typically didn't get in South America. I still do. I don't have a great deal of money am pretty good looking a little fat and extremely charming and 47 years old.

There are no less than 15-20 of Angela's friends and aquaintances very envious of what she has got (She won't leave me alone with any of her female relatives). She had probably a hundred marriage offers while I was in Aruba dating her. I feel like I won one of those dating reality shows. I thank God for her every morning, I thank her mother for her, and I thank her, out loud verbally so she can hear me. Is she using me for a green card time will tell. I think not but you never truly know.

If she is she can be replaced. If she isn't she is irreplacable.

In the end you pays yo maoney and you takes yo chances; but , its a wonderful game isn't it.

Antony

"cook some rice!"

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umm says on Jan 14, 2005, 04:52:

I know an 60 over year old greek guy in Bogota. He has a lot of plata and therefore you can always find him on holidays with some chicas in his arms.
maybe if you are a gringo, then some might resent that.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 14, 2005, 05:16:

For the newbie’s. I’m an old Colombian modefoque, nearing that dreaded big 5-0. I married a super hot Colombian broad 20 years younger. She got her green card going on 2 years and I still can’t get her to dump my wrinkle ass. Right now I’m planning a little “solo� trip to Colombia but she’s hell bend on not letting me go alone and says “no way in hell you’re going to el Carnaval de Barranquilla with out me, a que? a mujeriar! usted es un viejo verde! un tipico corroncho con dolares que baila de putas, no way! las bandidas me comerian vivo, yo voy tambien! Now she wants to include her uninvited young ass in my trip. My master plan is to meet up with some of the guys from PBH and raise hell all over the northern Colombian coast. Middle age gringos gone wild, in Barranquilla y Cartagena. My cachaco friend, another old modefoque, just got back from a 3 month visit in Medellin; he went to furnish his brand new apartment in el poblado. He’s got a girl almost 30 years younger and is now ready to trade her in for newer model. He thinks is a crime for middle-aged guy with dollars to only have one girl, there are just too many. He went to a place in Medellin called “Phase 2� and could not stop talking about it, now I wanna go too.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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paisa29 says on Jan 14, 2005, 05:36:

eso es muy relativo, hay algunas chicas inmaduras y superficiales que están buscando un gringo rico y no les importa la diferencia de edades con tal de que les de gusto en todo lo que ellas quieran, pero tambien hay otras muchachas que no han tenido buenas experiencias con hombres jovenes o de sus mismas edades y buscan hombres mayores porque les brindan seguridad y estabilidad en sus vidas, eso sí hay que tener mucho cuidado, yo sugiero primero ver donde viven, que trabajo hacen y sis es pósible conocer su familia.

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umm says on Jan 14, 2005, 05:44:

y otras se buscan a un gringo bobo pa conseguirse la entrada a gringolandia.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 14, 2005, 06:18:

I need to explain “bandidas� .
Bandidas are girls who normally go for low life, drug dealers, criminals, scum bags, republicans, scammers, mujeriegos, etc. They usually dress like whores (but they’re not!) and hang out in groups in most bars and clubs. Those are the kind of women I seem to attract. I will admit, though I got that low life look going, in reality I’m a mild manner reporter for a great metropolitan TV station in NYC. In Barranquilla, Guajiros (my people) are feared for their very violent temper and underworld dealings, and an immediate reaction when people first see me is “ese hijueputa es un Guajiro!� but I’m the exact apposite, as a matter of fact I’m a big softy who enjoys long walks down the beach hand in hand with my woman, naked! I got this thing about letting my balls hang freely, happily bouncing front side to side as they enjoy that heavenly ocean breeze in Puerto Colombia, or Salgar. I also enjoy romantic dinners, and there nothing more romantic than buying your very special other an empanada, caribañola and a cerveza Aguila, and sit or stand on the sidewalk of beautiful Barranquilla.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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bitt3rvanilla says on Jan 14, 2005, 07:43:

I reckon it depends Depends on what youre looking for i think. Just like everywhere else there is always somebody up for a bit of fun and if youve got the cash then brilliant. As for a serious relationship, yes I do believe Colombian girls tend to be a little bit more age conscious unless they see you as a one way ticket to the US...Careful there. But then again you find all sorts of people everywhere you go, try and give it a shot, it takes a while before getting serious.
Good luck.

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Albatross says on Jan 14, 2005, 08:54:

Barranquilla You make me sorry I didn't get there on my last trip. I was in Cartegena and planned to stop by on my way to Santa Marta. But I met an Italian Tourist who had just come from there and said that he had seen a gunfight in the street where three people ended up on the ground... quiza en el futuro...

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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elmodefoque says on Jan 14, 2005, 09:07:

In Barranquilla, if you have a gripe with someone, business deal gone bad, stole your woman, harmed your kid, raped your donkey etc. the best time and only time to blow his freaking head off is during carnaval, and that’s because most people are wearing disguises, but if you have no beef with anyone the only thing you gotta be careful is with someone smacking you across your head with a white powder filled sox, and don’t get upset cause is all part of carnaval.

damn, now that i think about it, i've never been smack with a sox. would i get upset? maybe just a little, i'll only shove the sox down the guys throat.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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miamimike says on Jan 14, 2005, 09:13:

Do the Math Albatross--50%-60% of marriages between two Northamercans fail in less then 7 years here in the USA. A Marriage beteen two of the same culture, same age, no langauge barrier, like educational levels. 50% fail! Throw in differences such as the Langauge barrier, cultural differences, a Huge Age difference--what are the chances of a marriage suceeding? 1 in 10 maybe. Will you be the Lucky one?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Albatross says on Jan 14, 2005, 09:32:

Mi Burro :( Elmo, Please leave my donkey outta this...

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 09:39:

cremaster I was just kidding you about your typo.

I still deny having low opinion about people in general, too. Maybe the way I express myself just gives that impression, because I've given it some thought and frankly don't see it myself. I don't have any great expectations from people in general, not here nor there. I think you basically get the response that you deserve; all depends how much of yourself you put in a relationship (be it a friendship, a family relationship, a love relationship, a business relationship) is usually correalted to the "goodness" or "badness" of the people around you. I don't believe in instant relations; rather think that all relations need much work, more time and mountains of caring and empathy.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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elmodefoque says on Jan 14, 2005, 10:08:

hey cochino, i like that name, maybe i'll change mine too! how about mojon69

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 10:26:

just one more.. the oldgringo can tell you boys
that after everyone has something to say,..
the oldgringo and his commandante, 31 his years junior,
are having a divine time for the last few years,
because she knows that in a few years, if she looks at me
with bad eyes, she will be traded for two 15's, and be very sorry.

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 11:24:

no.. she's gonna trade me for three 20's..

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 11:27:

yep... oldgringos like me are hard to find hard.

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 12:01:

duh................ y mucho mas...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 14:57:

old gringo maybe she's just waiting you to croak to collect the benefits...
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:02:

get back in the kitchen,..blondie.. and learn to make real arepas...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:09:

too late to go back in the kitchen...that really hurt, didn't it?
Cheers,
Desi
(it'll be salmon teriyaki tomorrow)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:21:

stix and stones.. my salmon is better than your salmon.

when i croak, she'll be long gone with three 20's

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:36:

no way old gringo my salmon is the ultimate salmon....so, lot's of salmon swimming in the Caribbean, right? You're arepas with iguana meat might be better than mine, but never your salmon. A girl's got to draw a line somewhere.
You'll be long gone. She'll be the Big Mama.
Cheers, as always,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Lionheart says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:43:

salmon I think Oldgringo means Pacific salmon .... nothing better than that, I agree with him, having caught them in the Pacific NW myself.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 15:50:

what's the big deal about the Pacific Salmon? I've bought and prepared plenty of Pacific Salmon here but it doesn't compare with the Atlantic, wild caught off the coast of Norway. A matter of taste, I presume.
I personally prefer the salmon caught in Tana (Teno) River, flowing through the Finnish and Norwegian Lapland into the Arctic Ocean.
Oldgringo is just saying thatbecause he feels I've offended his sensibilities.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:06:

the gloves are off..... you...
just go out and buy a nice filet of atlantic,smother it in some sauce, and think you can write book.
the oldgringo goes out in the chuck, or the river, or the lake,
and catch any one seven indiginous salmonids..
chinook...best for lox and bagels..roasting on a cedar plank
coho....best for sweet and sour..
sockeye...best for canning
pink...best to sell
chum...best for the pets
steelhead..release
kokanee...pan fry

stay tuned for more fun with barracuda

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:21:

trying to impress me with a lot of fancy names of inferior salmon....
I buy my salmon, yes, I don't catch it but neither do you (technically you could, but I don't think you've got what it takes).
I buy my fresh salmons, with eyes and gills and all the stuff, and prepare them the way only we people raised up inthe salmon-fishing culture can. I can't write a book about cooking salmon, but I sure can prepare them so that they please both the eye and the palate.
Cheers,
Desi
(admittingly we get mostly the pink Pacific here, barely good enough for the pets)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Katjie says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:24:

Re: Una pregunta para las Colombianas Albatros,
It's true what it's said about it depending on how much funds will be available. Yes, there are plenty of desperate women in Colombia. But, those desperate ones are at the bottom of the men desire meter. They are desperate for a reason. Notice that the pretty, elegant, well educated have plenty of choices. The last thing these group will choose is an old man having so many juicy male specimens. Another point is Colombian men. They, they have a way and what a way. I married an older gringo when I was in my teens. It wasn't love. It was a wise decision. I was used to a certain way of life that ended in my parents passing in an accident. A young Colombian couldn't have handle it. But I confess, I've had two affairs with Colombian men. One lasted six years and the other almost three. The way they touched me, whispered in my ear, made love to me. was something I never experience with any gringo (and I dated a few). You know, must try out the merchandize before you buy it! At the end I choose the comfort of my home and financial security. I think of them often and if given the chance to be with one of them for an hour, I would jump on it. Moral of the story? You have lots of competition my friend and you need ridiculous amounts of spendable cash. (money talks). Good luck.

Katjie

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Lionheart says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:31:

I must make amends - both are right I prefer Chinook for grilling, my favorite way to eat salmon. It has a more hardy taste to it, and much more meat. Second best is Atlantic salmon, but needs a much more delicate preparation to maintain its flavor. The rest is just salmon. Here are some facts I found about the health value of salmon:

Salmon's omega-3 fats are good for your heart. In fact, the American Heart Association recommends eating fish, including higher-fat fish like salmon, twice weekly.

flavor/
type calories fat (g) omega-3s (g) texture

Atlantic, 175 10.5 1.9 Delicate flavor,
farmed fatty

Atlantic, 155 6.9 1.9 Stronger flavor,
wild leaner

Chinook 196 11.4 1.6 Rich flavor,
(king) fatty

Chum 131 4.1 0.7 Mild flavor,
leaner

Coho 151 7.0 1.2 Mild flavor
(silver),
farmed

Coho 118 3.7 1 Stronger flavor,
(silver), leaner than
wild farmed

Pink 127 3.8 1.1 Mild flavor


Sockeye 184 9.3 1.1 Rich flavor,
(red) fatty

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:41:

poor desi... so proud.. come and see a salmon fileting competition....
come and see how salmon has been prepared for 10,00 years...
come and see my luckie louie plugs that catch tyee...
come and see real salmon,...the pinks are a blasphemy.

and just how does your salmon-fishing culture prepare them?
besides gravlax...weak...and poached...weaker...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 16:51:

Atlantic Salmon being of superior quality and delicate flavor fares well with a tender hand. Gravad lax, yes, but it's not weak, just delicate and subtle, cold or warm-smoked a real delicacy, broiled just to the point, with dill and salt, not too much, not too little. The Scandinavian lax soup is a rare delicacy. The secret with the lax is not overdoing it, since the fine, delicate flavor gets easily overwhelmed by too much seasoning and too much cooking. I think my overall favorite would be the warm-smoked lax on juniper bed.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 17:07:

let's see... that was "delicate",three times, and "delicacy", twice..

i get the picture...
dill??...espantoso!!!........thats's for pickles.

salmon ain't a delicate fish..
you ever try pulling a 50 pound tyee out of the water?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 14, 2005, 17:11:

I married my husband when I was 21 he was 34 and we be going strong after 15 years in may 16 I don't known if that count but I am happily married.

engage brain before opening mouth

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oldbongo says on Jan 14, 2005, 17:30:

geeez... i forgot.... all this salmon and i forgot la commandante..
she is 30 years younger than me, and she's the adult,
now i gotta go and be a good little boy,.
i wouldn't want to throw away the last three years of bliss,
and the next umpteen, over dead fish....

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 14, 2005, 18:28:

Katjie, you sound like Elmo's kind of woman. He'll have you on all fours squealing like a pig in no time.

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Katjie says on Jan 15, 2005, 16:48:

Elmo? Semame Street Elmo? utopiacowboy,
Who is Elmo? No offense taken. Didn't even understood it. The point is, kid, there's more to things than what's just apparent. One day you'll get it...Or not. (he,he,he) Just toying with you. No talk about pigs, please, julk!

Katjie

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oldbongo says on Jan 15, 2005, 16:55:

katjie... stick around kid,.. you'll meet elmo next week.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 15, 2005, 17:21:

One day, I'll get it? Damm, I sure hope so. I've been waiting a long time.

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Katjie says on Jan 15, 2005, 18:31:

About Elmo again, kid. Don't tell me that Elmo is your alter-ego. Or your imaginary friend, perhaps? You didn't get it. Oh...Forget it. Hey, kid, what's with the time? Is it PST, EST, what?
Katjie

Katjie

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oldbongo says on Jan 15, 2005, 18:36:

katjie... please look up elmo on the search...

he's not my alter,..he's my adopted indio

the time is now..

everything is what it appears to be.

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isaactraveler says on Jan 15, 2005, 20:07:

I have to agree with Desi 295 years diff is too much what the hell do they talk about anyway?

The power to pay bills and provide food, shelter and reasonably constant way of life that isnt impoverished, is a powerful aphrodisiac. It also helps if you have even a modicum of a personality and respect for people in general.

as said many times before, desire for a plain looking (even ugly)man who is older is not unique to Colombia or other south american countries. this is global, you just need to be richer in other places to score the chicks.

To score a cute chick 15 years younger in the U.S. it is roughly about $100,000 per 5 pounds of fat on an average man over age 35. If he is ugly, add very nice car, and if he has a small penis, then he needs to have several vacation homes around the world.

In Colombia, same guy only needs to have ooooooh about $5K in the bank and at least ACT like he can dance salsa.

SOURCE: 2003 BS GUIDE TO AVG MADE UP FACTS

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oldbongo says on Jan 15, 2005, 20:23:

ike... what we talk about remains on the pillow...

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bellas says on Jan 15, 2005, 20:26:

Ok produce Bellas

I want to meet all your spouses friends.. i am waiting..j

Bellas

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Katjie says on Jan 18, 2005, 11:56:

Thought I was talking w/ Utopiacowboy. But thanks for the info. I found the postings of Elmo. I'm still trying to figure how to find a particular post. This site is a bit different than the others I post to. Be patient, I'll get it (eventually).
Katjie

Katjie

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 18, 2005, 12:54:

Elmo? Who's Elmo?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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gringodeverdad says on Feb 8, 2005, 21:10:

katjie hasn't met the right gringo yet hey that rhymes! but its still true.

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