TURKISH WOMAN MARRYING A COLOMBIAN MAN

GregYohn says on Jun 3, 2009, 17:38:

Since RELIGION is based on BELIEF and not a piece of paper, how can you change your religion? I thought that marriage should be based on common interests and most people in the WORLD think the SAME religion is about the biggest bond when getting married.

My advice is to find someone else as a husband!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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turnmeon (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 3, 2009, 17:44:

ddluzdelsol says on Jun 3, 2009, 19:25:

Don't change yourself for anybody!! You'll regret it in the future!
Moving to Colombia.... GREAT!! But, changing yourself for someone... ???

Why shouldn't he accept you for who you are (religion and all)... You accept him, yes? I know plenty of people who have different religions and still respect each other! Some of my students are Christian and Jewish... talk about crazy holidays!!

Christmas and New Years in Ibague!!

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RAAAY says on Jun 3, 2009, 19:43:

cdemir.....................................let;s see. A Muslim lady in Turkey, perfect English,but writing the word " muslim " without a capital M.
Familiar with Colombian culture also. Just curious, is PBH very popular in Turkey..?


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Jun 3, 2009, 19:50:

Second post TODAY about Turkey! Maybe Colombia is popular over there Like Japan is to Brazil and Peru? ajajjaaja lol

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/any-turks-in-medellin/

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bam m says on Jun 3, 2009, 19:54:

hey..wheres the light switch for the bathroom??

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love2colombia says on Jun 3, 2009, 21:54:

"I am a 33 year old Turkish woman. Marrying a colombian man. I am muslim. He wants me to change my religion. And move to Colombia. There are some simililarities between our cultures."

"Turkish men are also macho, they make the rule like Colombians"

Bullshit...

What is the similarity, Teach us expert...

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goin_south says on Jun 3, 2009, 22:27:

"""they make the rule like Colombians)."""
Colombianos are some of the whimpiest guys on the planet, except the ones in the Farc.
Mostly, ... they are all MOMA'S BOYZ... so, apparently, he's got you fooled.
And, don't kid yourself.... THERE AIN'T A WHOLE LOT IN COMMON... between your two cultures.
Other than you both live/breathe on Planet Earth.

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 3, 2009, 22:56:

Actually a couple of the dudes I currently hang out with are Turkish. I find them VERY similar to Colombian men. Very nice, passive, and lady killers. But, make 'em mad enough, I am sure they would cut you ear to ear without a second thought or regret.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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drvannostren says on Jun 3, 2009, 23:20:

The only person who can help you decide something like this, is you. You have to determine how important your religion is to you, and how important he is. Someone who REALLY loves you shouldn't really ask you to change something that significant, I'm not at all religious, so if my future spouse said "hey, be catholic" as long as it didn't involve some crazy comitment I wasn't ready to share, it wouldn't bother me. But Islam is a strong storied religion, and vastly different from MOST stuff I know about all others, sure the similarities are there, but in Colombia, you'd certainly stick out like a sore thumb, and you'd have to be ready for that too.

This could seriously be the biggest decision of your life, no matter what anyone says, only you can REALLY ultimately make that call.

No matter where you go, the Korean tour bus isn't far behind.

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cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 02:36:

THANK YOU "GregYohn ", "drvannostren", "Robert Jorge" and "ddluzdelsol" your advices means so much to mee. Muchos muchos gracias. Thank you for sharing. I am really so confused. But yes I also believe you shouldn't change yourself for nobody. And I believe that all human being are the same and there is no discrimination in God's level. Humans make the discrimination. But obviously the man that I love doesnt understand that. I think I should move on and find somebody else. It is so heart breaking. But maybe its the right thing.

Some of you said Colombians are not macho. Actually I also saw no macho behavious in my lover. But I read some forum notes saying that Colombians become macho after marriage, they cheat easily their wife and their family (padres) allways support him whatever he does.


But I also believe there is a lot of similarity between two culture. This is amazing and beautiful.

I offered him to come and leave in Turkey. But I don't think he ever does that. Because 3 years ago he decided to be a priest but he couldn't. Maybe we can say he is more fanatic than a normal Colombian guy.

I also wait to hear your advices. Thank you :)

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El Expatriado says on Jun 4, 2009, 03:31:

Moderadores.. alerta de gnoma! aleta de gnoma!.. Whoop.. Whoop. (siren)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 4, 2009, 06:15:

cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 06:48:

I am sorry. Should I only write one time? I don'T understand? I posted my note 2 times. That is true. Please make me an explanation.

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Haddeman says on Jun 4, 2009, 07:26:

You would miss your culture and food if you moved here.I know families are very important in Turkey and your food is for me,one of the best in the world.Colombia food is good but lacks the ingredients of yours.I would think very seriously about leaving your country,I think you could be very lonely and sad here as Colombians are slow to accept foreigners,especially as a muslim woman.

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gimmedub says on Jun 4, 2009, 07:43:

fyi there is a large muslim population in the coast - here in valledupar there is a mosque and ~1thousand muslims mostly lebanese from my guess... they are well integrated into the society here and from what I see many stores/restaurants are owned or managed by them...

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Loggi says on Jun 4, 2009, 07:49:

If you do believe this relationship is worth pursuing, I would strongly advise you to first come for a visit before you make any commitments or close any doors in Turkey. This will be a lot harder than you can ever imagine and if you don't like Colombia, the food, traditions or the family and friends it will become a nightmare.

But most importantly , you have to meet this person and see if he is anything like the one you have fallen for.

Live for the moments you can't put into words

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Rikito says on Jun 4, 2009, 08:57:

and some of you in here believe this crap? Let's see, we have a muslim woman willing to change her religion from Islam to Catholicism (I assume he is Catholic) So who dies first…the wife or the husband. This post is as phony as The local electric company (EDEQ) saying they are a competent well run organization. NOT!

...and so it goes

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Jun 4, 2009, 09:08:

"Also PCL she post the thread twice that is why you see Turkey twice in one day and she has not been the only one to do so, some people who are newbies get a bit confuse around the site and post the thread twice."

Actually Kat I was talking about a completely different post about Turkey in which I posted the link.. not this same duplicate post.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Jun 4, 2009, 09:12:

"I offered him to come and leave in Turkey. But I don't think he ever does that. Because 3 years ago he decided to be a priest but he couldn't."

Did he decide to become a priest before or after he meet you? ajajaja lol Oh on a second reading I see that you have known each other for 9 years.. Im glad that to see that you guys are seriously deciding to have a marriage and romantic relationship considering he want to become a priest and live a life of celibacy... jajjaj lol

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 4, 2009, 09:15:

Francijoe says on Jun 4, 2009, 10:37:

do what makes you happy. If your husband loves it doesnt matter what your religion is.If you want to change becuse you want to then do it. My husband has a different religion then mine. Everybody religions are different. I dont knock anybodies religion. I would not change my religion for my husband but he has never asked. Again do what makes you happy.............

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GregYohn says on Jun 4, 2009, 11:38:

Hola!

My old girlfriend was from Barranquilla, Colombia. Her sister was married to a Turkish guy there. He had an affair on her and she spent a week in a hospital over the stress of the marriage breaking up. They seemed to have a nice family too from the pictures I had seen.

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 12:35:

Paisa/Calena/Luver ,

I have trouble here. Why are making fun of it? If you dont want to help please dont write cruel stuff.

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cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 12:36:

GREG YOHN THANK YOU!! :)

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cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 12:38:

What do you guys think if I ask him to live in Turkey? Can a Colombian survive in Turkey?

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RAAAY says on Jun 4, 2009, 12:41:

Depends........for one........what part of Turkey..............do you have a computer at home or use a internet cafe..?

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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cdemir75 says on Jun 4, 2009, 13:14:

Hey I am at the capital city, of course it is very modern. We have salsa bars, pubs. I am an academician at the university. Everything is fine!

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tabla says on Jun 4, 2009, 13:17:

Colombia is a very catholic country - a very religious country. They are also very friendly with and interested in foreign visitors. There may be some anti-Muslim sentiment, but not extreme. Although Turkey is a Muslim country, it is not as extreme as many others. However, my impression is still that the culture is very different from Colombia. I think the typical turk will have difficulty adapting. But if you are not typical, maybe you can make it.

If he comes to live in Turkey, I think he will havr difficulty adapting. I presume in that case he will become Muslim? Otherwise, seems a bit unequal.

What about the children? Islam and Catholicism are both religions that insist the children follow the religion.

All in all, too many differences. I think the biggest problem is that you appear to know so little about Colombia. So definitely visit before committing.

Good luck. Nice to have a Muslim friend here.

I also write for the archive.

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ddluzdelsol says on Jun 4, 2009, 14:20:

Cdemir... Have you been to Colombia yet? If not, try coming for a few months first to see if you guys truely hit it off, and to see if you enjoy the culture, the life style, the food, etc...

Then, make your own decision...
But, I still say becareful if he wants you to change!

Christmas and New Years in Ibague!!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 4, 2009, 16:05:

Turnmeon:
"colombians are not macho as you stated, that is just pure stereotypes"
Erm, aren't they (machos, that is)? http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/elogio-de-la-mujer-brava-hector-...

Mind you, I've already visited Turkey several times, and I'd say they're about on par...

P.S.: One the nicer things about the Sharia is that, if you wish to divorce your wife, you simply have to walk three times around her (in a circle) declaiming "I wish to divorce thee". Hey, so much about pre-nups! But then, that's another thread here on PBH...!

Better to have tried and failed than having regrets all your life about what you MIGHT have missed

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dtapia says on Jun 4, 2009, 20:13:

I think Mohamed is going to be a little upset.

If you love him madly then do it. If you don't love him madly, then don't do it... unless you want money and he has some.

Colombia is an awesome country, the physical land itself makes Turkey look like a pile of shit. Of course, Turkey has amazing people and a lot of culture; it has to be one of the most beautiful places in terms of people/culture/history.

Good Luck in any case!!

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goin_south says on Jun 4, 2009, 22:26:

Rikito is most likely right.
No muslim is going to convert to catholocism.
ARe you fokn kiddin us?

I know one guy who married a young girl from BQ, (and then divorced about two years into it)... and now, he's in line to marry a young girl from Albania.... (is that northern Africa?)... and HE IS THE ONE CONVERTING to muslim.... damn! I would have dumped his ass as a friend, but he was the first one to tell me about Colombia and las 'nitas....

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 01:45:

Rikito says on Jun 5, 2009, 05:26:

Darloup, you are wrong on the divorce. It is not as easy at you make it out. First of all he does not have to walk around her three times...or any times. All he (or she) needs to do is face Mecca which is an hour north from Jeddah and declare, "I divorce you." But before that ever happens a lot of people become involved from both families and the local leader of the Mosque that they attend. It can happen, but not often.

And always remember, No muslim is going to convert to catholocism. Has it ever happened? Maybe! But some ass is goign to get pounded if either of them does convert. They may face physical force, death, disowning, and the person will never again be allowed contact with the familes.

...and so it goes

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cdemir75 says on Jun 5, 2009, 07:55:

I must tell I have visited Colombia once. Everything seems perfect. very close to me. I have extra interest for south American culture. :) I think South Americans are great people :)

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cdemir75 says on Jun 5, 2009, 07:59:

I have wonderfull friends here. I send you guys big hugs to kat1, goin_south, Darloup, tabla! :)

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cdemir75 says on Jun 5, 2009, 08:02:

Rikito the thing your say : "needs to do is face Mecca which is an hour north from Jeddah and declare, "I divorce you." this is in Arabia. In Turkey law and religion is seperated! :) We are half European and half mediterrean/ middle eastern!

What you say doesnt happen in Turkey. You have to go and government to divorce with your lawyer. And the marriage also made by governmet! :))

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Rikito says on Jun 5, 2009, 09:18:

Mea culpa you are correct. I forgot about the Turkey thing. My apology for this miscue. But, as you can see from cdemir's response, getting a divorce is not easy and it is not trivial.

With al of this being said, Turkey is a very comopolitan city to be in. It is very European and is responsible for many of the advances human beings have enjoyed in wirting, literature, politics, religion, and the sciences. It's to bad the Euro Union doesn't see it that way.

...and so it goes

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viajero123 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 09:27:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 09:32:

Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Jun 5, 2009, 09:48:

You see, Wikipedia does come in handy!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 10:04:

viajero123 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 10:07:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 5, 2009, 11:06:

RAAAY says on Jun 5, 2009, 15:05:

Kat............why don't you just log on here with a Turkish ip address..................you'll feel like you're there..............it only takes a few minutes to do.


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Catfish35 says on Jun 6, 2009, 11:29:

All this talk about Turkey is making me Hungary !

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 11:34:

RAAAY says on Jun 6, 2009, 11:36:

Ahhhhhhhhhh.............I bet the o/p does.......


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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cdemir75 says on Jun 6, 2009, 14:02:

viajero123, THE CAPITAL OF TURKEY IS NOT ISTANBUL!! THE CAPITAL CITY IS ANKARA!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 14:21:

viajero123 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 21:01:

gamm2 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 21:04:

cdemir75 says on Jun 7, 2009, 04:56:

The city is Cali, I have been there for 20 days.

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cdemir75 says on Jun 7, 2009, 04:57:

What do you know about Cali and Cali citizens?

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GregYohn says on Jun 7, 2009, 12:41:

Hola!

My wife is from Cali! My old GF was from Barranquilla, so I say I got traded from the Junior football team to Deportivo Cali! I have been to Cali about 15 times,

I think a muslim woman would not feel welcome in Cali, in general.

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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cdemir75 says on Jun 8, 2009, 07:20:

OKey please write more comments about Cali. Cali citizens

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GregYohn says on Jun 8, 2009, 07:40:

Cali is fine in general, but there does not seem to be Muslims there. You possibly could find them.

The important aspect is whether you marry a guy and not the city. I see Cali through my relationship with my spouse. We visit family and businesses, because of her. That is how it works for me!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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