Trying to Understand

Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 30, 2006, 20:53:

Tell your friend That it's not cool to be a teacher and try to date your students. They don't owe him the details of their personal lives, either.

She should have slammed the door in his face.

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caslug says on Apr 30, 2006, 21:06:

2nd what Mr. H said.. One rule of teaching is don't date your student, ESPECIALLY when the teacher is the one initiating. Many institution have regulation against anyway(of course it still happens). If the institution is a reputable one and the gal went to the adminsistrator, your friend could be in trouble.

One reason it's always bad for a "teacher" to ask a student out, is the teacher is in position of power(control the grade). Hence the student may feel undue pressure to accept. Sound like she did "accept" because she went on those "walks".

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caslug says on Apr 30, 2006, 21:20:

charles.. your friend sounds like he doesn't have lot of exp with dating or teaching..

First as a student the gal probably is thinking your friend is a "decent" teacher. so has NO reason to suspect your friend is hitting on her, hence she has no reason to mention boyfriend UNLESS asked. Of course since she's taking english classes, maybe she doesn't understand all implication of the questions, "going out for walks", etc.,

and second, if he really wanted to know if she like him or not. WAIT till she's NOT a student in the class(or school) anymore THEN ask her out. Then he'll know if she said yes because she likes him or just said yes to not get in trouble w/ the teacher.

I suspect your friend will be getting the repuation w/ the other female student in the class or school as the "sleazy" teacher to be avoided. Don't think students don't gossip, especially after she finish the course.

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 00:15:

Charlie I personally know several english teachers here in Cali,Colombia that date,party and have friends that are students,no big deal.I even know one english teacher that is getting married to one of his students.But just like many other things....... in the uptight U.S. this is not accepted.Charlie,what you need to understand is that the Colombian women that live in the States are different from the Colombian women that live in Colombia.They change.They become more complicated and flaky......like Gringas.Charlie,maybey you should think about teaching english in Colombia,you will have more women than you will know what to do with.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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caulfield2 says on May 1, 2006, 09:11:

It´s something you have to be careful of, especially when you teach in a small town or university community.

I dated a girl (not from my class) a couple of times and she told me that she´d heard that I took lots of girls to fincas, lol. This happened after I asked a girl to go horseback riding my two gringa friends AFTER the English course was over! Somehow that invitation was twisted to ¨having my way with women at fincas,¨ which I found to be laughable.

Still, you have to be careful. I would never even think about going on a walk alone with one of my colegio students, even though I have quite a few university students that are actually younger, as they graduate here in Colombia at 16 or 17. I can just imagine Morphus thinking of the gold mine of possibities. Some might even be virgins, lol!

In all seriousness, you just have to be careful, don´t date anyone while they´re a student...and don´t take TOO many girls in any one place or you´re going to get a reputation that will be hard to get rid of.

I had a former student from a couple of months ago text message me and asking if she wanted to go to a concert (with her friends), but I was dating someone at the time. I´m not sure if she was just looking for someone to pay for her ticket (like $20 mil) or not. I think we might go see a movie this week, not sure. There are lot of pre-pagos in the university, so it´s another thing to watch out for. My students joke you can tell because they wear high heels and are siliconas, but they are not THAT easy to identify.

I know of a former teacher here who had sex with at least 3 of his 7 students (all female, not guys in class) while he was teaching them...he had an Ecotourism class, so it was perfect for him, because he got to travel to Cali with his class for a ¨field trip.¨ He managed to use cocaine and have a menage a trois with two students in one weekend. He usually let his classes out early on Fridays so they could go to the bar together and get blasted. I know he tried to date one of them, but I think she was too ¨high maintenance¨ for him...in other words, he didn´t pay her directly, but she expected A LOT in return, and he couldn´t afford to sustain that kind of lifestyle, even on a foreign teacher´s salary.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 1, 2006, 09:31:

To tell you the truth, tell your friend to grow up, we Colombianas are very friendly some men take it the wrong way, she was being friendly, she didn't need to tell him about her private life, she was trying just to be friends, is his fault if he took it the wrong way. and now not wanting to speak to her! Gezz, well at least she knows now what were his intentions.

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 1, 2006, 09:38:

Career change time "he had an Ecotourism class, so it was perfect for him, because he got to travel to Cali with his class for a ¨field trip.¨ He managed to use cocaine and have a menage a trois with two students in one weekend."

Well, now that you put it in those terms, maybe teaching isn't so badly compensated after all! Go hiking, do drugs, have a 3-way and get paid for it? Elmo, dust off your resume!

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caulfield2 says on May 1, 2006, 09:40:

Just curious, but how old is this guy anyway?

I pouted a little when my last girlfriend dumped me (the first time that has happened in Colombia, and I probably deserved the bad karma for some my decisions here anyway), but it was mostly because she gave the excuse she couldn´t see me because her best friend threatened not to be friends with her anymore if we kept dating. So, she really wasn´t the one for me anyway with that kind of thought process!

At any rate, there are tons of women in every country of the world...and it would be much better to start out a relationship as equals, so to speak, rather than in the traditional teacher-student power-based relationship where he has some control over her due to grades, pass-fail, etc. If things are meant to be, there´s no reason any teacher cannot be patient enough to wait. And if he´s going to punish her because he can´t have her, well, that´s just absurd and idiotic. Teachers can be sneaky...there was one down here that gave my ex a candy bar and said she was the most beautiful girl in the university. Now that´s subtle, and this was not a foreign teacher, it was a Colombian.

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caulfield2 says on May 1, 2006, 09:46:

Hollywood, the pay isn´t that GREAT, lol, although there are some side benefits...

For instance, I take a cab to the terminal in Armenia ($3 mil), take a bus to Caicedonia (losing 45 minutes and $2 more mil), teach for two hours (early approximately $31 mil) and then return in the afternoon.

Of course, I don´t do this full-time, it´s just something for fun and to put on my resume, but unless you´re full-time, it´s a struggle. From what I´ve heard, most of full-time university teachers here make around $2-2.5 million per month. Good, but not great...I make almost double that by teaching at a private colegio, then another $500,000 per month to teach 8 hours per week each month (at night).

If Morphus was down here, he would go nuts, because one girl in my class is absolutely stunning, and she´s 17 years old and 11 months. So I am glad he is not her teacher, or he would be all over her like white on rice. Not only that, but she even speaks very fluent English, so the Morphman and her could have some intellectual conversations about literature, virginity, politics, travel, history, you name it.

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 11:07:

maybey iam wrong but from what i have read it looks to me like there was some misleading and game playing going on.why else would she say after two months of courting that "she had been warned about american mens expectations".personally,it sounds to me that she could likely be a gringo hater.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 11:13:

Kat are you still holding a grudge for something i posted over a year ago? incredible! i guess that is true what they say about women being vindictive.Kat,forgive and forget and email me arthurbrode at aol.com

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Coolgirl says on May 1, 2006, 11:14:

Arthur Brode Do not agree with this!
what you need to understand is that the Colombian women that live in the States are different from the Colombian women that live in Colombia.They change.They become more complicated and flaky......like Gringas.
How they become more complicated?
Could you explain?
caulfield2,
Any jobs for me there, fax it where?

Monica

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 1, 2006, 11:17:

Arthur, what grudge? I don't remember any grudge, lol, do you? what was about?

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 13:55:

Coolgirl as la Colombiana adapts to life in the U.S. and weak American values she becomes more complicated=difficult and flaky=neurotic.Slowly la Colombiana starts to lose identity and aquires traits that are common among Gringas.Symptoms include.....misleading,playing games,bitchiness,aloofness,superficialness,agression ect.Even the Colombians that live here in Colombia see character changes in family members or friends that arrive from the U.S.My friend Patricia mentioned to me that her best friend came back from the States a totally different person.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 1, 2006, 14:05:

Arthur I don't know you from agua panela, but it sounds to me like you're just a bit of a misogynist. The reason Colombian women "change" after they move to the US is that they no longer feel they have to suck up to assholes in order to get married, get a visa, etc. So they have a tendency to ditch creeps and hook up with better guys or make a good life on their own.

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caslug says on May 1, 2006, 14:27:

arthur..just because teachers in cali are dating their students doesn't mean dating students is right. Any GUY in COL making decent living(ie, english teacher) will find it VERY easy to get dates. So why date your students? That's just lazy. I took a TEFL course in COL, and the teacher told the class, DONT date your student. he said in COL it's NOT unheard of for student to hit on their teachers(sometimes to improve grades or other reasons), BUT he told us resist the temptation. Beside as I said, there's tons of hot women outside the class to hit on, why hit on the ones in class?

In cali a few a years ago, a french foreign teacher at a private school got busted for running a little's lover's nest in agua blanca barrio. He took bunch of his students for private lessons, his student were still in collegio. What was suprising was EVEN after he was caught some of the parents OF the students he slept with, STILL thought of him as a GOOD teacher!

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 14:48:

misonigyst? you got it wrong.i love latin women.its the gringas i cant stand.the rest of your comment doesnt make any sense.the topic is "character flaws that colombian women pick up while living in the states".if you want to talk about "marraige" or "visas" start another thread.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 15:12:

Thanks Tinto nice to know that your nearby keeping everything straight.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Coolgirl says on May 1, 2006, 15:17:

I will take this as a big complement.
complicated=difficult and flaky=neurotic.
Symptoms include misleading,playing games,bitchiness,aloofness,superficialness,agressiveness, etc.
This flurting makes me laugh, love it.
I will not be your enemy in a million years.
Thanks Tinto for trying to keep us Preschoolers in order.

Monica

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arthur brode says on May 1, 2006, 15:26:

caslug i guess i wouldnt last too long as an english teacher.funny story about the french teacher.in the states he would have been locked up in prison for a long time.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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caulfield2 says on May 1, 2006, 15:38:

Coolgirl, do you have a current certification to teach K-12 in the United States right now? Otherwise, these jobs in American or International colegios are much more difficult to come by.

It´s also a bit easier because I have 4 years' experience now and am working on my 3rd Master´s Degree, so a lot of schools want to hire you just because those qualifications help them keep their creditation or certification with groups like SACS, especially when they do hire teachers without certification or working on them.

If you could teach physics or math, you would probably be set. There is more competition for English and History positions. Also, special ed jobs don´t exist here like they do in the US.

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Blue says on May 1, 2006, 16:42:

Teacher/Student Teachers are socialized into believing these relationships are inherently wrong. They try to suppress the laws of nature in order to maintain the illusion of social control. Teachers and students alike can make up their own minds in this regard. Anything else is slavish conformity to outside meddling.

Blue

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daver says on May 1, 2006, 18:39:

"Was my friend misguided not to ask about the boyfriend, or do people in Colombia not think it is important to mention this if all they want is a friendly social relationship?"

This sort of thing happens all the time, in every country.

I mean, if she gave the guy a couple hand jobs, then said she didn't a relationship because she has a boyfriend, then yeah, he got royally hosed.

If buddy gets all upset because she went out on walks, but didn't want to give it up, then he is a little bit of a cry baby.

Jesus, why come to a public forum to discuss the sort of thing that happens all the time, regarless of where you are from

Dave

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utopiacowboy says on May 1, 2006, 18:51:

De frigging acuerdo, Dave.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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costajunkie says on May 1, 2006, 18:55:

Late again! Why do I always arrive at these wonderful topics (for me at least) so late? What's to say that hasn't been said? Not much...

After I left my job as a project manager for a software company, I decided to join my novia for an extended time in BAQ. I managed to obtain a position at CUC in Barranquilla, and I did teach English there for a short time, since I was at one time an ESL teacher in the states. It was great fun, one of the best stints of teaching I have ever had. I also took some of the overflow of one of my co-worker's tutoring, some of whom were agency brides and fiancees (now THAT was interesting!)

First of all, I can imagine that there would be a difference between a colombiana going to an American school as opposed to attending one in Colombia. This country (any country really) changes people as it should - even more so if you are young and in a college setting. The same rules just don't apply for the most part.

Second of all, TWO MONTHS! What took him so long to even get to the question of a possibility of getting together? Christ! If this took place in the setting of an American college/university, you could bet that people are entering this woman's life on a daily basis. Even if she did have some kind of feelings of attraction toward your friend in the beginning, you can probably surmise that if she is even somewhat vivacious and/or attractive, somebody else was already making his move while he was still strolling through the park with her. Just how experienced is your friend in dating anyway?

Which brings me to my next subject for observation... In Colombia, I found one woman to whom I was attracted, and it is with her I have remained. However, I have dated women from other countries in Mexico and SA, and there is one thing I have found to be true, for me at least. If the woman is interested in you, she will let you know - not verbally, but through cues of body language. These cues are so much easier to read than those of American women, and it really doesn't take a degree in psychology to understand this if only you are not turned inward and instead paying attention. I'm not talking about "friendliness" - most colombianas are friendly and sociable. If he doesn't know what I'm talking about then your friend just doesn't have a clue, which I imagine to be the case after taking TWO MONTHS to get around to the subject of hooking up.

Your friend took two months to getting around to the subject of getting together, but now that she is not interested in "something more" than friendship, and he doesn't want to be a friend because he feels she mislead him? How childish! He should consider himself lucky that she wishes to be friends. The only misleading going on here is your friend's illusions in fooling himself. He may have had a chance at one time, maybe not... but TWO MONTHS??? What does he expect?

And lastly and most importantly, I have to call into question your friend's professional ethics. I don't know exactly the setting of this institution of learning where your friend teaches, be it a community college or whatever. Nevertheless, it is an unwritten rule as well as a written one at most credible intitutions of learning that teachers do not date their students. I have seen this rule violated more times than I care to recall, and if he has an ounce of dignity and professionalism, he will reevaluate his dedication to the mission of teaching and what it means to be a true educator.

Enough said...

PD. Mario, I believe you're right. I kept having to correct my post from "you" to "your friend"

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morphus says on May 1, 2006, 21:14:

If I want, I can get a teaching job at El Colombo in Medellin. I know all the directors and staff. My girl use to study there and is against me doing any kind teaching job in Colombia. She used to see the girls follow those young goofy guys from Canada, U.S. and Australia with big, stupid hair dews. She said if they were following those guys imagine if I was teaching. The girls would be all over me. I would'nt be able to resist. I have nothing against teacher student relationships. When I was in school I had a few hot teachers I would have like to have been with. Unfortunately, older women don't think like older men. Anyway, I don't need a teaching job to meet girls in Colombia. I find enough girls just wandering around. I have more than I can handle.

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utopiacowboy says on May 1, 2006, 21:18:

You're right, Morphus. They'd be all over you like stink on sh*t.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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morphus says on May 1, 2006, 21:48:

Friendly Colombianas Yes, its true that Colombianas can be very friendly and may only want to be friends. A lot of guys could get the wrong idea. Thats not a bad thing at all. Usually, they will have friends that will be interested in you. It can go the other way around too. One time I met a Colombiana in Medellin from the internet. I never saw her picture. I figured what do I have to lose? This in Medellin. Every girl is a model, right? She turned out to be 300lbs and used to live in the U.S. She showed where to buy the best foods in Medellin. She was a nice girl but was'nt my type. She was very social though and had a lot of friends. She had a tall, slim blonde amiga that I ended up hooking up with. Its good to network.
My friend that goes to Cartagena with me is very bad. He embarrasses me. He only speaks a few words in Spanish. He says he has no time for any bullshit and for now on when he meets a girl in Colombia, he's going to tell them straight out "you, me fucky fucky" while simulating it with his index finger going in and out of his other finger looped into a circle.

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morphus says on May 1, 2006, 21:49:

UC, funny one!

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costajunkie says on May 1, 2006, 22:26:

Oh man... I gotta hand it to you Morphus... no matter how much the comments and criticism fly, attacking you and your non-apologetic quest to cut an erotic swath across Colombia, it hasn't made a dent in your ego and self-esteem whatsoever.

So you are all for student-teacher relationships? OK... perhaps this might fly in Colombia to a degree, but in the US you would be the lead feature story in the local section of the newspaper with a value system like this.

I have a daughter in Colombia... if you do decide to teach someday, please be a pal and let me know where you are teaching so I know where not to enroll her for school, OK?

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morphus says on May 1, 2006, 22:40:

Don't worry! I only have one pija. The chances of me going after your daughter are small. And thats if she's a hottie.

Just for the record, I would'nt want any of you dogs going after my daughter either if I had one. Thats why I don't plan to have any kids. You never know what you are going to get. Maybe a slutty daughter or a gay son. I would be devastated. On my next trip to Colombia, i'm getting a vasectomy.

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utopiacowboy says on May 1, 2006, 23:29:

Lo siento, Morphus. I just co Disculpame, Morphus. I just couldn't resist, dude. Come on, don't get a vasectomy - where would the world be without some little Morphuses running around?

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paisa29 says on May 2, 2006, 08:16:

por primera vez estoy de acuerdo con Morphus,no traer morphitos al mundo es lo mas inteligente que ha dicho desde que está en este foro.

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 08:30:

era bromeando yo realmente no voy a conseguir una vasectomía. Tan todavía una ocasión de un morphito.

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 08:35:

Paisa29, cuidado! Esos gringos conoces en Medellin son peores que yo...ha ha

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cgs242 says on May 2, 2006, 09:07:

Lessons learned for the future Some lessons learned for your friend...

If a person wants clear and direct feedback from the beginning, then he/she must ask the correct direct/concise questions to ellicit clear and direct feedback from the start.

As far as teachers trying to date current/active students in the united states, obviously that is not good. The teacher is risking his job and reputation.

Arthur Brode also hit the nail on the head regarding latinas adopting the way of some gringas being complicated and flaky, very funny but oh, so true.

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Coolgirl says on May 2, 2006, 09:59:

I've Never I did not think that I was going to get a big laugh out if this Post!!!
Morphus,
You should be living in the Middle East, 7 girls all for you!
I would love to see your pics to see if your ego is equal to your body!

Monica

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sweetcalena says on May 2, 2006, 10:10:

I would love to see your pics to see if your ego is equal to your body!(Coolgirl's words)hehe
LOL
Coolgirl he is probably "ti lin, ti lin y nada de paletas!!! LOL
;-)

“Sit down to write what you have thought, and not to think about what you shall write.”William Cobbett

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daver says on May 2, 2006, 11:11:

Morphus,

I have keeping an eye out for you ever since you gave us that description of yourself. I haven't seen and Don Johnson or John Travolatas around... perhaps I'll keep a closer eye on the high-schools and day care centres.

Dave

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Coolgirl says on May 2, 2006, 12:17:

"ti lin, ti lin y nada de paletas"? That is funny, It has been a long time since I do not hear that.
Or even better, " la Ultima Lambida del Mango".
He also forgot to add a litle of Brad Pitt.
Jajajaja.:)

Monica

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paisa29 says on May 2, 2006, 12:20:

Afortunadamente todas las mujeres en Medellín no son super modelos sin cerebro porque la verdadera belleza se encuentra en el interior.

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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sweetcalena says on May 2, 2006, 12:29:

jajaja "la ultima lambida del Mango" That's a good one and a new one for me lol.

“Sit down to write what you have thought, and not to think about what you shall write.”William Cobbett

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Coolgirl says on May 2, 2006, 12:47:

El paisa29 si... El paisa29 si sabe como es la volteada de la arepa.
Bien por ti Paisa.
jajajaja.

Monica

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Wastelandlive says on May 2, 2006, 20:09:

I don't understand what the general obsession is... With the teacher/student relationship.

He may be a dork... but he's teaching ENGLISH. If he's doing so at an institute dedicated to same, where he provides services to legal adults, then there is nothing unprofessional, immoral, or even slightly scandalous about him dating a student.

Or was there something in his post to indicate that he's a high school teacher or college professor? That seems unlikely. BIG assumption.

Wasteland

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 20:14:

sweetcalena You said "I would love to see your pics to see if your ego is equal to your body! How about this?
LOL"

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sweetcalena says on May 2, 2006, 20:18:

those were Coolgirl's words.... where you got that one from?? What website??

“Sit down to write what you have thought, and not to think about what you shall write.”William Cobbett

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caulfield2 says on May 2, 2006, 20:36:

What kind of tool wears that kind of underwear in real life, even though it's obviously not your picture???

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 21:09:

Its my picture. Heres more Its my picture. Heres one at a swimming pool in Guatape. I only post them because I know Mario hates my pics..ha ha

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 21:26:

buzz

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 21:48:

Its good to see a lot Colombianas posting now.

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morphus says on May 2, 2006, 21:57:

One more

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Valentino says on May 2, 2006, 22:29:

Please dont butcher Colombia by mispelling it. Colombia with an "O" not a "U"


Valentino M.
zondervanus at yahoo.com
786-286-3351

Valentino M. zondervanus@yahoo.com 786-286-3351

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utopiacowboy says on May 2, 2006, 22:36:

I finally figured out who you do remind me of. The guy who played Jethro on the old Beverly Hillbillies.

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morphus says on May 3, 2006, 03:19:

Max Baer jr? Cool! His father used to be the heavyweight boxing champion.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 3, 2006, 03:32:

LOL, Morphus, keep posting your pics, I am not complaining ;)

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caulfield2 says on May 3, 2006, 06:41:

Morphus is what he is...

He has a healthy ego (most body-building types do) but I'm sure he doesn't act as abrasively as his posts here in real life.

He obviously wants to draw attention to himself, posting deliberately outrageous comments in order to become the center of attention. Obviously, by us constantly addressing him, he gets what he wants. If everyone just ignored him, he would seek out attention at another board or forum.

While I am a little surprised that we would ever find Morphus at a book store, I'm sure it is possible.

Last night, I ran into another gringo in Armenia. He had gone to the trouble of renting two separate apartments to "hide his tracks," and had been living down here since December. He had apparently been married to a Colombian for 5 years (actually, from Armenia) and she left him and took him to the cleaners. That was his third ex, I would guess he was in his 50's. He made no bones about the fact that he was looking for sex, and that he wasn't looking for an emotional commitment or anything long-term.

The word this gringo used specifically was conquer...this reminded me of something that Morphus might say, with his attitude towards women not being the most progressive in the world.

The problem is that no man conquers a respectable woman...and that only the best women will let you in to conquer their heart, soul and spirit (not just their bodies).

The thing that cracked me up about him was that everybody in the apartment complex knew he was living there...he didn't use curtains, and he spoke loudly on the phone in English, probably deliberately, as if he were advertising his presence.

Therein was the contradiction....he wanted to seem "normal" to everyone and justify himself, while manifesting behaviors that were obviously self-defeating and not leading to contentment or fulfillment in the long term.

I would argue that any gringo that can't have a healthy dating life down here has some pretty serious issues. Heck, gringos with serious issues here have a healthy dating-sex life. This country seems to attract lots of freaks (remember LeStat, the bomber and all the child molesters). The Internet gives individuals a forum to manifest their neuroses publicly while hiding simultaneously, maintaining a large degree of anonymity.

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Coolgirl says on May 3, 2006, 07:07:

Morphus.. Come on man!
Who are you trying to Impress!!Not me!!!
I would post my photo here, but my intetions are different than trying to look for approval.
Dude, about the underwear, it is hillarious.
Sweetcale~a, did you find what website he got that picture from?

"The problem is that no man conquers a respectable woman...and that only the best women will let you in to conquer their heart, soul and spirit (not just their bodies)".
I agree with you there caulfield2.
Finally somebody got it right!

Monica

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Coolgirl says on May 3, 2006, 07:26:

Morphus.. Very quick question.
Wha do you cover your face?
Is there anything wrong with it, are you afraid of someone may see you. The reason I ask is because you almost show your " Mercado" so why would you cover your face. I do not get it!

Monica

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sweetcalena says on May 3, 2006, 08:45:

not coolgirl I didnt!! Good post caulfield2!!!
I think morphus problem is that he has NARCISSISM.
Didn't impress me at all!!!

;-)

“Sit down to write what you have thought, and not to think about what you shall write.”William Cobbett

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paisa29 says on May 3, 2006, 08:51:

a mi tampoco me impresiona para nada, así fuera el hombre mas guapo sobre la tierra, nunca me fijaría en él.

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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Blue says on May 3, 2006, 12:25:

Wastelandlive Maybe it shows how puritanical some people are about sex. They are always trying to distort, deny and otherwise repress human nature. lol Let’s keep it simple for the moment: People who are at the age of consent can freely express their own free will. No outside authority has any right to interfere and subvert their choice of dating partners. This is a universal truth applicable everywhere. We’ll save an analysis of moral and ethical questions for another day. My favorite Pink Floyd song: lol


We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

Wrong, Do it again!
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?
You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!


Blue

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Wastelandlive says on May 3, 2006, 13:41:

Hmmm. I thought it was just a revealing, almost Fruedian slip.. ... that said more about the readership of this forum then it does the author of this string.

There ARE relationships among adults which by their nature must exlude intimacy. For example, it is unethical for a college professor to be involved with a student, even one which is an adult, because a professor is in a position of authority not only as a teacher but as an impartial evaluator. There's also a tradition that college students - while legally adults - are kind of adults with training wheels... and professors aren't for them simply subject matter experts, but role models and moral authorities as well.

Those are hard responsibilities to fulfill while simultaneously banging your students.

But an English teacher? At some language institute?

Give me a break. He could just as easily be helping her with her golf swing or her tennis backhand.

Who cares? I wish the guy luck. Obviously, he desperately needs to get laid a few times and lighten up.

Wasteland

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morphus says on May 3, 2006, 18:42:

Sweetcalena said she wanted to see my picture. Now, everybody is saying i'm trying to impress people or have a big ego. I think its a little too late for that.

coolgirl, I have to block my face because because I have an image to upheld in Colombia. I know a lot of people in Colombia. If they see me on here, they might think i'm weird. Sometimes I post my picture unedited. It depends what kind of mood i'm in.

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Coolgirl says on May 3, 2006, 19:16:

Morphus.. I was the one who wanted to see your pic not Sweet_C, but thanks for letting everyone see you in your underwear!!
"they might think i'm weird.
Dude! You are weird!.
I do not think that anyone on his right mind would post a picture of themselves showing their underwear!!!
In a serious note, You do what is best for you and I understand that you have to cover yourself to upheld your image!!
;)

Monica

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utopiacowboy says on May 3, 2006, 19:21:

Hey, he was hoping that you'd get turned on seeing him in those BVDs. You are a 19 year old virgin aren't you?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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caulfield2 says on May 3, 2006, 19:40:

Well said. Although I think what will reign him in eventually is he will realize that all of the Colombian women here are laughing at him, and that his strategy needs to be reconsidered.

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sweetcalena says on May 3, 2006, 19:43:

What???????? I never want it to see your pics, it was coolgirl that said that.
Anyways, you can be the cutest guy in the outside, what it really counts its the person inside that body!!!

“Sit down to write what you have thought, and not to think about what you shall write.”William Cobbett

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caulfield2 says on May 3, 2006, 19:56:

He´s still talking about Medellin Mansions in another thread.

Personally, he´s probably a decent guy that´s bored right now in the United States and wants to have some fun. He looks at this whole message board as a game, and, for those who take it seriously (well, as much as possible), he´s pretty loathsome.

I also think he´s somewhat trapped in his personality. If he acts conciliatory or thoughtful, everyone will say a tiger never changes its stripes. If he continues on in the same vein, he will become even more of a buffoon and laughingstock. At this point, he has so many detractors that almost nobody takes what he says seriously...lol...and yet here we are trying to have a serious and analytical conversation with the guy!

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utopiacowboy says on May 3, 2006, 19:58:

I don't think this intervention will work without a Pez dispenser.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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arthur brode says on May 3, 2006, 23:08:

what a PBH reaming so what are you going to do now Morph?.....a GIB? dont worry you still have your #1 fan(Kat) if anything you can always come and hang with me in Cali.we will go craddle robbing together.what do you say??

http://www.calirentals.net/

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 4, 2006, 00:53:

I've known Morphus in this board for ages and I know he is a teaser, he's always been like that . I have tease him in the past and still do just like coolgirs and the other girls, and he's never been nasty or rude to me. a real gent.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 4, 2006, 00:53:

:)

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arthur brode says on May 4, 2006, 08:14:

how sweet Kat,sounds like you and morphus should get together and have the little morphitos that they were talking about earlier,how cute......just teasing.Kat,i apologize if i was ever "rude" or "nasty" to you.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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caulfield2 says on May 4, 2006, 09:39:

I don't think that Kat will be volunteering her services at the proposed Magnificent Morphus' Medellin Mansion...although stranger things have happened before.

Maybe he can give out special commemorative Morphus Medallions to the first 100 customers. He will probably charge $50 per hour for his advice on women. For some reason, I see him as Tom Cruise's Frank TJ Mackey character in that wonderfully-underappreciated movie, Magnolia.

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 09:45:

I don't think i'm the one with the problem. Mario, as usual you sound like a rambling maniac. It all comes down to you getting a little booty in Colombia. If you were'nt getting the booty, you would'nt care about Colombia. Same with Caulfield2. He likes that booty in Colombia too. Talk about big egos, he posted pics of his little trophy wife and everybody applauds him. He loves the attention. I just follow along what everybody else is talking about. People here talk about Colombianas a lot. All I do is chime in. If you look at all my original posts, none ever start off about Colombianas.

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caulfield2 says on May 4, 2006, 10:10:

Okay, here's the challenge Morphus, I'm going to lay off you for awhile, but let's see if we can go for one week only commenting about Colombia WITHOUT making any references to women. Yes, I write about that subject a lot, it's part of the experience here and interesting for a few...but I am going to make a conscious effort to write about other things.

By the way, you don't sound very conciliatory in your tone, and anyone who has been psychoanalyzed and dissected to death by strangers probably shouldn't be...then again, why get upset, unless there is some truth to the accusations? If you're a completely different person in real life, then why would it even begin to bother you? And besides, Kat still likes you, isn't that enough, lol?

Also, have any posters sent you e-mails complaining about Mario or me, and how we're unfairly persecuting you? I've received quite a few about you. Where is the Morphus Fan Club to rise up in arms with righteous indignation about our mistreatment of you? Do you really want to know what these people (mostly women) think of you?

I don't think you REALLY care...in reality...but you have given us too much material...from your attitudes about marriage/wives, the mentally and physically challenged to opening up your own brothel. Start posting like a "normal" human being and stop going for the lowest common denominator and you will have the respect of most reasonable individuals.

And your defense about not initiating threads but only chiming in doesn't hold any water...whether it's the first or last post, it's your decision, what direction you want to steer the thread or topic towards. Not only that, but you have consciously sought out threads that lend themselves to your unique "vision" of Colombia. If you replied to every thread, I might buy that argument.

I'm enjoying the attention you are getting for yourself, because you're not happy with it for the first time. You reap what you sow. Why don't you do a search and see how many times your name comes up in other threads, messages by other posters here or messages on threads that have not been graced by your presence. I'm sure you will somewhat surprised. Maybe you will even be satisfied to have so many talking about you, lol. In that quest, you have succeeded.

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 10:55:

Ha Ha What are you guys, tag team partners?

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caulfield2 says on May 4, 2006, 11:13:

That's the best response you can come up with in 45 minutes?

Maybe you should spend more time at the book store and less at LDV and the Medellin Mansion. It's stunting your intellectual development.

Maybe you should think about why you don't have anyone to take your side, that WOULD make things more interesting, wouldn't it? Or maybe, just maybe, that should tell you something about your untenable position.

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 11:55:

This thread has already been hijacked and not going anywhere. Why continue the dumb discussions? You guys are trying to bring out the worst in me but i'm not going to give you the satisfaction. You don't want "bad morphus" to come to town. He's dangerous. We'll meet again in another thread.

Just for the record, I've never been to the Medellin Mansion. I asked Aussiegreg if I can come over and get drunk but he never got back to me. Every gringo that has been to Cartagena has been in LDV at least once, so nothing to hide there. In another thread, I mentioned that I go to the bookstore. I don't need your advice for that. I'm sure you're no brainstorm. So you're a teacher...big deal! Theres an old saying, "those who can't do, have to teach". LOL

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 12:52:

Anybody can get a master's degree if they have the time and opportunity. Mohammad Ali, the great heavyweight boxing champion got a PHD after years of getting punched in the head, and with parkinsons disease. There are also plenty of people locked up in prison taking college courses and getting degrees.

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Colombiche says on May 4, 2006, 13:01:

Parkinsons Disease Is no laughing matter. Anybody can get it, even at a young age. this disease affects your motion and balance, not your intellectual ability (unless it is accompanied by dementia).

I've been watching my (still young) father battling this disease for years, he just had brain surgery 3 weeks ago, 8 hours wide awake with doctors drilling into his brain, without letting out an "ouch".


That my friend, takes BALLS. People who have undergone this kind of suffering deserve respect in the very least.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 13:18:

Colombiche, nobody was laughing about parkinsons disease.

Thats the problem with this board. People blow things out of proportion. GIB was smart for leaving. On this message board, I feel like a beast caged in the middle of a city about to be killed by an angry mob.

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Colombiche says on May 4, 2006, 13:42:

Morphus I am not angry, if you weren't making fun of the disease that is cool, I wasn't even following the debate, I just read that part and decided to reply. You have cracked some handicapped jokes before, so I thought you might be joking about it.

I don't think there is an angry mob, and I am willing to bet you are not a bad guy in person, but here in the forum you do enjoy pushing buttons sometimes and maybe that is why some people are angry, I don't know...

I really barely ever poke my head around this site anymore, half the time I respond because my name is called upon "colombiche" this or that, then I respond.

If it is any consolation, I too have been accused of being egocentric, and I don't even post pics of myself showing off my assets.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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caulfield2 says on May 4, 2006, 14:35:

Yes, Morphus, the smartest people in the world often don´t even graduate from college....some high school, because they´re not challenged in that environment. The only person to challenge them (not their teachers or classmates) is themselves, how far they can push to the limits of their capabilities.

Bill Gates and Paul Allen dropped out of Harvard to start Microsoft (it had a different name originally). A lot of the millionaires in the US are self-made, high school educated, run small businesses and work long hours. They have my respect, as much as a PHD or doctor.

I don´t think anyone is particularly smarter than anyone else, unless they don´t apply themselves at all. I went to the University of Iowa, Georgia Southern University (it was one of the best schools in the country for sports administration in the early 90´s, a relatively new field like an MBA with more of a sports concentration) and the University of Missouri at Kansas City. I don´t think many teacher preparation programs, whether undergrad, master´s or doctoral level TEACH you that much.

I was lucky to have a family that supported me in my desires to do what made me happiest, which has mostly been working around the world of sports, non-profit agencies and volunteering, as well as working with kids in and out of a school environment.

That doesn´t make me ANY better than you either. It doesn´t matter if you´re the janitor or principal to me. Teaching is, by far, the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Everything else has come easily. Writing is easy, for instance, compared to teaching...yet not everyone can write, as evidenced by some of the entries in various threads here...many by teachers with actual certifications.

But until you teach yourself in an inner city high school in the US for a year, or work in a Strato 6 private colegio, you don´t really have any right to say anything about how easy teaching is.

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Blue says on May 4, 2006, 16:15:

Teachers are oftentimes the better-educated version of police officers. They like to give "tickets" to those who act in ways or believe in things contrary to what they consider acceptable or appropriate. lol

Blue

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caulfield2 says on May 4, 2006, 18:10:

I have no idea whether Morphus is doing anything unacceptable or not. I couldn´t tell you. It doesn´t matter what I think is acceptable, it only matters if it is legal or not...of course, you have another discussion of things you can do down here legally (or get away with, I should say) that would be cause for serious prison time in the US.

For instance, the gringo that lives down here I was referring to in another post...my friend (Colombiana) that lives in his apartment complex told me she saw him (since he never closes his curtains) with what looked to her to be an underage girl. Definitely under 18, probably under 16. Now I am not a DAS officer, but I have something of a dilemma. I told her the best thing might be to put a note on his door (or under) letting him know that it´s unacceptable for a 50 plus year old man to be with a teenager. Yes, I know, if she´s 18, it´s legal, technically...but still, do you consider that acceptable or appropriate ¨Blue¨ ? Would you report him or look the other way, ¨just boys being boys¨ you know? Except he´s hardly a boy.

Back to the Morphus situation. Since you´ve succeeded in provoking a response on his behalf...here it is. By the way, wouldn´t it be easier to come right out and say he´s done nothing wrong and you agree with him, lol? You´re playing both sides...you´re getting a dig in at me while not running out into the open to embrace Morphus as your comrade in arms simultaneously.

This has nothing to do with me policing him, really. Everyone has probably done some things they regret in Colombia. I know that I have. I like women, I´m not going to pretend otherwise. However, there are commonly-accepted means of expressing oneself. There are certainly plenty of sites that exist on the Net (from what I´ve heard, lol) that get right down to the nitty gritty, so to speak...EVERYTHING is about sex, where to find it, how much to pay for it, little amusing anecdotes from ¨sexual tourists¨ who frequent the dark side of the Internet.

If Morphus wants to be treated decently, he should reserve those sentiments for other sites. My opinion is that he knows he will be eviscerated for coming here...it´s part of his enjoyment. Could you imagine Morphus at a site where there were ONLY Morphuses and Morphus Jrs. (the teenager versions)???

Because he´s one of a kind, he brings lot of attention AND heat down on his head. It´s completely deliberate. You don´t see him starting his own website or message board...he comes here where there is a ready audience. Maybe you would go to a Morphus the Oracle website, I don´t know. Some would probably find it interesting and intriguing. 98% of women (both Colombians and Americans) would only go there to copy and paste his messages to their friends to get a laugh during their lunch hours. They would not take a single thing he says seriously...and that´s what he wants the most, and will be the hardest thing for him to attain unless he changes his member name and starts acting like a decent human being.

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Wastelandlive says on May 4, 2006, 20:55:

Huh? C: "Yes, I know, if she´s 18, it´s legal, technically...but still, do you consider that acceptable or appropriate ¨Blue¨ ? Would you report him or look the other way."

What would he report the guy for? Having sex with an 18 year woman?

You might want to lighten up there, Haus.

Wasteland

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utopiacowboy says on May 4, 2006, 21:15:

Colombiche, I'd love to see a pic of you showing off your ass-ets! I bet you're bootylicious.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 22:08:

Yeah, but Caulfield2 is a great guy. He was in his thirties when he married a 20 year old girl...lol. I don't know what the guy wants from me. The worse thing I said on here was about marrying a virgin or dating 18 year old girls. Theres nothing wrong with wanting a virgin bride. That was what marriage was originally intended for. If you are going to do it, then do it right. Thats all i'm saying. I know its not realistic for most people. Thats why it seems so absurd. A long time ago, I was riding the subway in New York and a Black man dressed like a Muslim was walking through the train with a big sign. He was'nt asking for money or anything. On top of the sign, it said "DON"T PUT YOUR PENIS IN YOUR WOMAN"S MOUTH". Underneath, it explained why it was bad. Then he would hand out a copy of the message on a sheet of paper. I think every since I read that man's message, it changed my thinking. It was his fault for getting it in my head. How will I ever love a woman that lets me put my penis in her mouth? I'm ruined for life. The man must have been a prophet. I think I would rather marry a non-virgin that has never done that than a virgin that has. I was talking to my friend once about his wife. He said his wife was'nt a virgin but never gave a man oral sex. He was happy about that but how do you prove that? I think a lot of men feel unconfortable when they think about their wives past lovers. Most just block it out of their minds. So thats why when I talk about it on here, it causes a stir. I never get into any kind of dirty X-rated talk. I'm no choir boy. If I want I can get into my one night stands with las chicas calientes but that kind of talk is prohibited on PBH.

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utopiacowboy says on May 4, 2006, 22:14:

Funny you mention that. Occasionally we carpool together and we were driving home talking and I was feeling a little frisky. We get home and her son calls and wants her to pick him up and her daughter has a softball game going on that she is supposed to go watch. We had started messing around in the kitchen and she asked me if I wanted to go upstairs. So we did. It's great to have a wife who always has her priorities straight!

And as for her past lovers, he's dead! I'm just hoping he's putting in a good word for me for taking care of his three kids. OTOH, he could be pissed because of things like the first paragraph above!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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morphus says on May 4, 2006, 22:26:

Alright GringoD, thanks for snapping me back into reality; the woman elmodefoque hooked me up with was 30 and has a kid. I would still marry her if she comes back to New York. She was that good. Of course I would still need an occasional trip to Colombia to visit my 18 year old sweeties.

These guys do have too much time on their hands. I now realize that my job is on here is to breath life into them..lol

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Miguel says on May 4, 2006, 22:35:

morphus proclaimed... " Every gringo that has been to Cartagena has been in LDV at least once"

I have been in Cartagena 12 times in the past two years and have never been there because I was "busy".

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Blue says on May 5, 2006, 08:01:

Caulfield
I like reading your posts. It’s fun, however, to take a few jabs at those who appear overly-judgmental and authoritarian. You appear that way in this thread and seem to be trying to impose your worldview on others. Things like: “However, there are commonly-accepted means of expressing oneself” and “unless he changes his member name and starts acting like a decent human being” suggest a certain intolerance. The age difference thing is another. People at the age of consent can make their own decisions. Btw: if things don’t work out with your hot Russian wife you can always send her my way..lol

Blue

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caulfield2 says on May 5, 2006, 08:19:

Okay, Blue, I´ll give you an example.

Elmodo says things that are well beyond decency to many people, but they´re funny, because...well, just because.

You don´t see me trying to ¨police¨ him. I think the little exchanges he has with his boardmates are usually pretty funny and add some levity to the board. It´s also because I see him as being relatively ¨harmless¨ in real life.

I´m still not sure how my marrying a 20 year old has any connection to him having one night stands and bragging about them. Really, if a woman acted like Morphus, you would have nothing to do with her, probably. The difference is the usual double standard...he wants a virgin, but he wants to be able to have sex with a multitude of different partners before marriage, and probably cheat on her with the 18 year olds once he does get married. Once again, whatever floats your boat. But why brag about it when you KNOW what the effect will be on almost everyone that reads it?

Seems somewhat illogical to me.

As far as the wife goes, she was TOO young to get married. I should have sponsored her on a K1 or even student visa. You learn your lessons in life. Actually, she´s the one that doesn´t want to get divorced, I am the one who has been pushing for it ever since I came down to Colombia. I am not in a hurry to get married again, but I am sure it will happen someday in the next 2 to 4 years.

I´m also not sure how my questions and comments to him were turned into a diatribe or treatise about oral sex, but that´s Morphus for you.

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bufalo says on May 5, 2006, 08:33:

I'm really late in this thread so excuse me if I missed something. (it's like a novella....Caulfield2 was married???????? DON DON DON!!!!!!!!)

Blue, "People at the age of consent can make their own decisions",
Legally yes, but please, how many legally consent girls coming from poor countries where it is put out or starve can really make a mature decision? I've been in colombia a while and I don't see many legal girls as being able to make decisions. They have to grow up fast, that is true, but being able to make a mature decision is a whole other story.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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caulfield2 says on May 5, 2006, 09:19:

Bufalo, yes, it's like Juegos Prohibidos or Rebelde, lol.

Morphus keeps trying to compare himself to me because I married a 20 year old...although technically, she was less than 1 month from 21. For some reason, 21 sounds a lot better, I guess.

Still, there's a pretty big difference between 18 or 19 and 21 to me.

Just for morphus' enjoyment, this is her webpage (www.irina.s5.com).

I put our picture and one of myself on my images page.

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morphus says on May 5, 2006, 19:32:

I had my share of Russian girls, so your wife's pictures don't do much for me. I met all my Russian girls here in New York. Not at one of those "socials" all the way over in Russia. I dated this girl a few years ago. She was 18 and I was 28. She came from Russia to New York at age 4.

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utopiacowboy says on May 5, 2006, 21:31:

I liked Irina's photos. She reminds me of one of my daughters.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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caulfield2 says on May 6, 2006, 08:13:

Likewise, Morphy.Beauty i Likewise, Morphy.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't even look at that woman twice, because I think the face and brain are 10 times more important than a nice pair of breasts.

You may know about socials, but I can promise you that I never went on one of those, as cattle calls like that are perhaps even more demeaning to women than having to work as a stripper or prostitute.

Of course, it's every man's dream...to have 50 women like the one you pictured all lavishing a man with their intention, each desperate to win the prize, so to speak.

The city Irina is from has never had an event like that anyway. They're in bigger cities like Kiev, Moscow and St. Petersburg. And I think it's crazy that men would spend $5,000 and up for a week to find the same kind of women (or even better) just walking around the streets. But Russia and the Ukraine are much more dangerous than Colombia, so the men MIGHT be better off with chaperones, as they could end up in a very dicey situation if they approached the wrong mafia member's wife, mistress or girlfriend. And they have less compunction about killing gringos in Russia...it barely would make the news, let alone cause a national outrage. Here, there's the occasional Vampire LeStat or Unabomber character, but you don't see the normal American guy down here (and I don't know if that exists anymore, after posting here for a year!) doesn't very often have anything too dramatic happen to him. Every year, there's 5-10 American men killed is Russia and the Ukraine, men that are trawling for cheap sex or a potential wife, usually the ones on their own that get too overconfident and get set up.

We were brought together by a university professor (living in the US) who knew her mom, she simply helped us to exchange e-mail addresses, then we started talking on the phone every day for 2-3 hours...I went and visited her after 4 months, the second time back, we got married. Very simple, typical situation for many...no other dates with a another Russian woman, which, in retrospect, probably was a mistake. But at that point we were too serious and there's no way I was going to ruin things with her by running around her city trying to date 3-5 other women simultaneously.

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pedro says on May 6, 2006, 19:23:

All right, I'll say it --quote----------------------
Maybe you should think about why you don't have anyone to take your side, that WOULD make things more interesting, wouldn't it? Or maybe, just maybe, that should tell you something about your untenable position.
...
Also, have any posters sent you e-mails complaining about Mario or me, and how we're unfairly persecuting you? I've received quite a few about you. Where is the Morphus Fan Club to rise up in arms with righteous indignation about our mistreatment of you? Do you really want to know what these people (mostly women) think of you?
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I think people have chosen not to come out and back up Morphus because he is managing the discussion just fine by himself. I imagine you guys getting all uptight over your keyboards, and I imagine Morphus reading and typing tounge in cheek, with a big smirk on his face.

I expect Morphus is a fun, engaging guy IRL and he would probably be a good guy to have a few beers with.

Reading PBH lately, the threads are really judgemental. Has it always been this way, or is it just my impression?

que nota!

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pedro says on May 6, 2006, 19:34:

Teachers and students You folks that are so worried about male teachers dating female students... are you also worried about the reverse?

I have seen examples where the female teacher dates a male student. We are talking language school or corporate language classes, where grades etc are not important. So there is no power imbalance.

Who is hurt in this situation? Why? Is it different from the male teacher, female student example?

I think there are a lot of assumptions being made about 18 year old girls not being fit to make their own decisions. Whereas in many cases, the girl may have as much or more emotional capability as a 40 year old person who thinks he or she knows it all.

Cover story news in Australia earlier this week was a case where the judge declined to give a marriage license for a 17 year old girl to marry her 19 year old fiance. Isn't that going too far?

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