true or false

MaG says on Nov 16, 2005, 15:48:

COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!! that's COMPLETELY FALSE!!!!

*MaG*

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 16, 2005, 15:49:

Falso.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 16, 2005, 15:55:

Dios Mio! It never ends...

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captain america says on Nov 16, 2005, 16:00:

then why do I hear this all the time? where does this stem from?

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juanalejo says on Nov 16, 2005, 16:03:

Hollywood

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calipro says on Nov 16, 2005, 20:56:

Absolutely FALSE! Colombian women will not search other countries for a man. They will simply put an ad in an online service or join a marriage agency and wait for the men to come to them.

The real question is are american men so disgusted with their american prospects that they'll travel thousands of miles and spend thousands of dollars to find a foreign wife?

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Albatross says on Nov 17, 2005, 04:23:

No Tinto... Never For every cockroach you stomp on, two more crawl out of the gutter.

Anyway, since this is a Kamikazi thread, I might as well help it along:

Let's see...

Where's the best place to go to find beautiful Colombian women that have no life whatsoever and will fall helplessly in love with the first pasty-white, fat-assed gringo that asks them to dinner ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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captain america says on Nov 17, 2005, 04:57:

the women seem to be quiet on this issue???(are there any females on this site)? or is this just a big hot dog cook out?

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quindioman says on Nov 17, 2005, 05:01:

PERROS CALIENTES.....DE VENTA...COMPRE TODOS LOS PERROS QUE QUIERAS
LOS QUIERE CON MAYONESASALSADETOMATEPAPITASPINAMARIHUANAPERICOBASUKO

A la orden senor

Tanbien vendemos DerbyKoolPielrojaKentMalboro

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dwmte says on Nov 17, 2005, 05:02:

duh.... colombian women are women..... they seek that which fulfills their desires and needs, be it here, there or anywhere else.

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Cerealkiller says on Nov 17, 2005, 05:22:

Dwmte you're totally right. First of all I highly doubt colombian women have a weakness for foreign men, and then I dont think Colombian men are too macho either. I have met extremely nice and not-macho-at-all colombian men, and as a girl I don't think nationality matters...as long as the girl is not a dollar digger...In my case, I swore Id never date any gringos...that has always been a no-no on my book, I didnt do it in high school, on holidays or any of the sort...But somehow, I ended up with a pasty white assed gringo and have never in my life dated a Colombian or any latin american guy for that matter. C'est La Vie!!!

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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captain america says on Nov 17, 2005, 05:28:

we would rather be called milky white asses than pasty...

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Cerealkiller says on Nov 17, 2005, 05:43:

captain america you say "we",we who? I dont mind if I'm called milky white assed or pasty white assed, because I simply cannot change it. So I find the use of euphemisms is rather unimportant...
GiB, thats awful!!! hahaha poor thing

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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captain america says on Nov 17, 2005, 06:05:

ok ok but why do so many women say this if this is untrue? where there is smoke there is fire?

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caslug says on Nov 17, 2005, 06:24:

captian.. it doesn't matter if it's true or not, and while your "gringo" exotic factor plays a role in attracting women. If you don't rock their world, they'll still drop your ass! So believe all you want that COL guys are bad, but if YOU'RE not treating them(women) right, then it doesn't matter does it??

One example of machista that an amiga gave me was this...COL men will go out partying on SAT with their buddies and tell their wives/gf to stay home and watch the kids.

Another amiga(fr a upper class family spent 6 months in monterrey for school) compare COL men to MEX men. She said that MEX men expect the women to quit working after getting married. While COL men only expect the women to quit working AFTER having the babies. I laughed an told her that US men expect their wives/gf to RETURN to work after having babies..BECAUSE it's too damm expensive to raise children in the US on one income!

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cochopechocho says on Nov 17, 2005, 06:46:

captain america I have also wondered why colombianas say they don't want a macho man when it is quite appearant that they aren't at all interested in whimps.

So a asked a couple what they mean by macho man and they both said a man who hits or beats a woman. I have only met a couple women in my life time that actually liked getting hit.

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pepster says on Nov 17, 2005, 07:00:

I wonder "I have only met a couple women in my life time that actually liked getting hit."

I wonder how Cocho knows? Hopefully, it's not through experience.


The Pepster

ColombianBlog.com

The Pepster ColombianBlog.com

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Plate says on Nov 17, 2005, 07:20:

Im a semi Pick Up Artist And part of playing the 'game' is understanding what a women 'wants.'
A woman wants a 'strong' man, a man that can lead her, guide her, etc. No women wants a whimpy man, but too many guys equate 'being a gentleman, being nice, etc' as being a wimp. False. Therefore, I must be an ass/tough/jerky to get the chick. That is totally false.

Part of the reason why men may 'seem machismo' in Colombia, like Cali or whatever is because of several factors. One is due to the female-male ratio..meaning, more girls for the boys which automatically gets in their favor. Another is lack of feminist/gay men/PC society influence which dominates the American culture which triggers both guys and girls (guys are getting less masculine, girls are getting less feminine)

Yes, there will be cases of domestic violence which Im totally against. Overall though, from the many guys Ive met, they are actually good guys. Also, Ive met many guys that are not 'machismo' so one starts to wonder if this is just another stereotype..

like..

Colombians are involved in Trafficking Narcs..
Americans=rich

Im a nice guy with little coin and grabbed me a nice caliena with a gymnast tight bod and great personality to boot...Im not machismo, I dont impress with buying fancy dinners or $$$.

Here is the pic..
http://www.casadelacerveza.com.co/imagesRumba/AniversarioSabado/photos/photo30.jpg

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cochopechocho says on Nov 17, 2005, 07:31:

No peepster I'm not pro prostitution like you. I would never degrade a woman by buying her or hitting her.

I don't know it could all be bullshit. But two women that I knew pretty well told me that they liked to be smacked around. One of them I was intimate with. She always wanted me to choke her while we were having sex. I tried it a few times but I couldn't deal with it so I dumped her.

Trust me there is nothing worst than trying to choke a woman with out hurting her while you are having sex. It ruins the moment.

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pepster says on Nov 17, 2005, 07:37:

Hey to break it to you Chocho Never had to buy a woman or choke one.

But you've seem to have at least accomplished 1 out of 2.

Nonetheless, I do find it weird for women to want to be beaten. But I think that has more to do with the way they were brought up and if they were molested or abused. It's a vicous cycle.

The Pepster

ColombianBlog.com

The Pepster ColombianBlog.com

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cochopechocho says on Nov 17, 2005, 07:53:

Nothing like adding insult to injury. Of course you are right, Tinto.

The opening post(true or false) is probably offensive to some. If the goal here is not to upset any of the readers you have a lot of deleting to do.

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camarogrll79 says on Nov 17, 2005, 08:18:

speaking out of experience of myself and a few friends, its the CUBAN men we hate.

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dwmte says on Nov 17, 2005, 09:22:

some wierd mierda here.... having worked all over this planet--europe, africa, throughout the middle east, india and asia--i have never, not once met a woman who liked to be hit.

i've been married 7 times, have 8 children and have had far more than my share of bed mates and i never had such an experience of one of the gals wanting to be smacked.

now i must confess guilt and take responsibility for smacking a gal in my life...i forthwith apologize to God, women and the world. and again, it did not generate a 'thank you'.

no one likes to be hit. i don't give a shit if their into some kind of kinky crap...just ask anybody, man or woman if they'ld like you to smack em in the face. enough about that.

dw

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 17, 2005, 11:04:

pasty? -an unattractive shade of greyish white?
Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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CuriosJoe says on Nov 17, 2005, 11:16:

what about a tanned european looking gringo with abs and blue eyes? never heard a complaint about my blue eyes in Colombia !!! :))))))))

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 17, 2005, 11:45:

funny that you mentioned
your blue eyes. I married a tanned, European-loking caleño with blue eyes. Abs too.

Cheers,
Desi
Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 17, 2005, 12:04:

Plenty of blue eyes and blond hair in Colombia. They don't need any gringoes to experience that.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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CuriosJoe says on Nov 17, 2005, 15:00:

Yeah? Blue eyes- And what part of Colombia is that? I've met very few. I myself prefer light skin dark hair ideally with blue/green eyes but dark eyes ok, but this is more South of Brazil and Argentina. But I love the curves Colombianas have. Skinny brazilianas can get boring for lack of variety. What's Venezuela like, I heard the best looking ones live there... never been myself.

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captain america says on Nov 17, 2005, 15:11:

ok thanks everyone for the comments, maybe the higher level of education or success a woman has in colombia the more she is sensitve to this machoness???

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 17, 2005, 16:10:

No shortage of them in Medellin. Check it out sometime.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Rubiazo says on Nov 17, 2005, 21:11:

Or in Bogota. Plenty of white people. They don't have that corn-fed midwestern look though. More of a 'my ancestors climbed up this mountain and kicked your ancestors asses' look :)

I don't think any woman actually likes to be ABUSED. You can like to be hit during sex but that doesn't mean you want to get the shit beat out of your because you went to the corner store without permission! Those are two separate things!

I really don't think that Colombia has a monopoly on abused women. Statistics are pretty hard to come by on those things though. In Japan, for example, how many of those women are EVER gonna admit it if their SO hits them?

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harocha says on Nov 17, 2005, 21:44:

It is not just the MACho part the concept of Colombian women not liking so much Colombian men involves a lot more than just the Macho thougts.

Alcohol, Lies (which i consider far away from been macho), Sleeping around with other women, etc, etc, etc.

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captain america says on Nov 18, 2005, 09:13:

so according to what everyone is saying there are no laws or safeguards for women in colombia if men want to be pigs to them???but this does not mean all men are this way...

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2005, 09:49:

GringoDe, actually....hmmm..it's not the color of your tanned face or arms or even legs that's affectionally called "pasty gringo". I believe the term is "pasty-assed gringo". That's the part of your anatomy that always shows your true colors....

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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captain america says on Nov 18, 2005, 10:28:

thank god for tanning booths!!!!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2005, 10:38:

Is Macho a man that hits women? I considered them cowards and wimps

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2005, 10:41:

If I said I like a macho man, I mean I like the guy to be a real gentelman, very "varonil" no this kind of metrosexual guys that are now in fashion like David Beckham

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elmodefoque says on Nov 18, 2005, 11:17:

I would consider myself a macho man, but only because I love fishing, baseball, outdoors and drinking beer with buddies and chasing hookers, but I always get my ass kicked by women. I got scara all over and just about all were caused by women physically abusing me, including la burrita that nearly ripped my little right nut off with a vicious kick, many moons ago. Just last week my violent young cachaca wife broke her 70 dollar lamp on my head. I had to run outta the apartment in my underwear to keep from getting killed.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2005, 14:58:

macho sp eng There's a considerable difference in semantics here. A 'macho' in Spanish is not a a bully or a wife-beater but a man that is strong, honorable, responsible, hard-working and self-confident.
Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Plate says on Nov 19, 2005, 05:09:

"so according to what everyone is saying there are no laws or safeguards for women in colombia if men want to be pigs to them???but this does not mean all men are this way..."

Captain America while you do mean well you are already holding some prejudices with some said assumptions.

Stop it.

About a month ago a woman attacked me with a pot carrying flower, some dishes and some other things. It all started because I told a beautiful woman just that...that she is beautiful and wondered if she was the adventereous type. Told her was going to call her later that night and tell her my intuition about her...

The women who attacked me was a jealous friend of hers who happenned to come out of a bad relationship and took her crap out on me.

In the past few years, Ive approached hundreds and hundreds of women (approached, not slept or gone out with..just approach) and out of all those hundred approaches, only ONE was a crazy experience. Quite funny actually.

Did I overreact and let my emotions out of control?
No.

In my so called life as 'pickup artist' (lol), I look at myself as Indiana Jones. Cool, relaxed...at ease and hopefully with some sense of humor..and of course, always looking for the new adventure ahead.

That was an 'american woman' btw, right here in Vegas. This was at a huge huge birthday party in ballroom hall.

Am I scared and look with all of my disgust at American woman because of that? No.

Anyway CaptainAmerica, hope you will get the answers you need since this thread might break the '100' range, because what you might need is not answers (yes, plural). What you might need is an 'answer', and if you search inside you just might find that. Seriously.

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captain america says on Nov 19, 2005, 06:53:

thr truth is always a puzzle and one has to spread all the pieces out before them in order to put it all together right?

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captain america says on Nov 19, 2005, 07:04:

plate... if you aproach a stranger,someone you do not know,how are you going to know how they react?..you dont so why does it suprise you that this happened?

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cochopechocho says on Nov 19, 2005, 07:19:

Desi Are you sure that there isn't another meaning for "macho" in spanish?

From your definition, it seems like any women would want a "macho" man yet, you only have to go to amigos.com or other latin matching sites to find women that say "please no macho man". I think that it is used as kind of slang for "machista".

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Plate says on Nov 19, 2005, 07:54:

Captain America, if the truth was nothing but a puzzle then everyone would be in a mass hysteria of manic confusion.

I DO get what you are saying. Basically, you want to FIND the truth to your questions. Nothing wrong with that. But what you are doing is not searching for the truth, but also trying to find answers of what you want to hear.

Like this for example..
"so according to what everyone is saying there are no laws or safeguards for women in colombia if men want to be pigs to them???"

I mean, that speaks for itself there CaptainAmerica. You still have this implication that men are very well possibly pigs and wanted to know if there is any protection (you are assuming strongly that men could be pigs to them and your question is just how protection is. See where I am going). To sum it up, attaching a bit of negative bias in what 'appears' to be a neutral question is usually not best.

Its like me saying.."Should I hire bodyguards when I walk around in the higher class areas of Colombia since probably many of them have attachments to narcs?"

To answer your other "Q"

"plate... if you aproach a stranger,someone you do not know,how are you going to know how they react?..you dont so why does it suprise you that this happened?"

The thing is, I really dont care how they react. That is the answer right there. My job is to bring them into my world and allow themselves to react 'positively' if they so choose to. Im there to show them the light, its their choice if they choose to follow it.

Ive been with girls that most guys would classify 'as rejection'. And what usually happens is nothing but good ol 'passion.

The girl I picked up in the gym here in the link below had the appearance of a bitchy-cold face. All the men in the gym were too scared to approach because they thought that they would automatically be rejected for her beauty and by her bodylanguage.

I had the balls to find out (since I like to move about this world without negative preconceived notions) that wasnt the case. She turned out to be a wonderful person.

http://www.casadelacerveza.com.co/imagesRumba/AniversarioSabado/photos/photo30.jpg


But due to my experience, my intuition, my knowledge of some the basic science behind this, etc...I certainly know better not to just go by first 'reactions.'

CaptainAmerica, I really wish you the best but Im just helping you see things from a different perspective, and sometimes it takes an outside source to help find that. Best of luck

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captain america says on Nov 19, 2005, 08:09:

ok well are there any laws or do women have the same protective rights as they do up here in the states? if you answer yes what are they if you answer no well????? Also if you dont care how women react to you why did you even bring it up as an example??? and finally if I was one sided I would not be on here asking these questions right? Im not saying colombian men are pigs,but maybe a climate exists for this to happen more so than up here.

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Plate says on Nov 19, 2005, 08:29:

CaptainAmerica said
"ok well are there any laws or do women have the same protective rights as they do up here in the states? if you answer yes what are they if you answer no well?????"

First it might help if you cut down the number of question marks. You have five question marks in the last question, if you can trim it down to at least three that might be helpful. Two would be jolly.

To your questions? I dont know. I didnt come in here to state what the laws of this or that are.

"Also if you dont care how women react to you why did you even bring it up as an example???"

I brought up THAT example (the pot flower throwing case) to make an 'analogy' of what I was trying to say to you from the begginning.
Big difference there. So that we are in the same page, I dont care how woman 'react' initially--moreso if its coming from a negative frame of mind.

"and finally if I was one sided I would not be on here asking these questions right?"

You can come here from all sides and ask questions here simply because you can. People ask questions to get an answer. When they get plenty of answers and they still hold their negative stereotypes, then why post the question in the first place? hmmm..

"Im not saying colombian men are pigs,but maybe a climate exists for this to happen more so than up here."

Sigh.
Someone throw a flower pot at my head.
LOL

» reply

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Plate says on Nov 19, 2005, 08:58:

Speaking of "Macho Man"Ev Speaking of "Macho Man"

Even though I hate proffesional wrestling, that dude Macho Man Randy Savage looked pretty bad ass.

Another topic of Macho Man..

cant stand that song "Macho Macho Man..la la" I think it was from the late 70s.

And now this "Macho Man" aka Plate needs to sleep.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2005, 11:42:

oh dear, I doubt that the "pasty gringo" even exists, it's just a a funny stereotype of the men that participate on these arranged wife-shopping tours to Colombia. The "paste" I have in mind is the gluey stuff we use to make papier maché. It's a kindergarten term alright.

(I never look for them either; this is just something I've learned here at PBH. I've been at *ChippyChappy* mall a lot of times and never seen one yet)

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 19, 2005, 13:31:

Unfortunately they do exist. The 60 year old guy I met at the embassy who was trying to get his young 24 year old fiancee a visa was one of them. He kept insinuating that we had something in common so in return I refused to speak English to him and kept answering his questions in Spanish. Yeah, pretty snooty I know, but he pissed me off.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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caslug says on Nov 19, 2005, 13:36:

i did see one at chipichape the other week.. he was about 50's, 5'9" weighing 250 lb(110 kg) and his "gf" was early 20's, 5'4" weighing 110 lb(50kg). I was looking around to see if the cols around him thought anything. Only notice one other gal that gave a slight stare of distaste, the rest didn't bother to give it a second look.

I think due to Desi promotion of Cali(best city in COL) more and more gringos are giving cali a look! lol! Notice with BOG, and how GIB scares everyone away, we don't here too many stores like pasty gringos! loL!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2005, 13:48:

Cali is really bad and very, very unsafe especially for pasties. Read about the the one un-pasty in my thread about an American missing in B/ventura. I've got to stop this promotion of the Heaven's Branch Office on Earth before there'll be an invasion of pasties all over the city (sheeeet they'll be venturing in the jungles of the South of the City now too!!!)

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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cochopechocho says on Nov 19, 2005, 15:14:

Unbelievable....... You actually have code words for white guys (pasty gringos) that look for wives south of the boarder and the black guys are un-pasty.

And then we have gringos getting ticked because some of these pasty gringos claim to have something in common with their young lovers. JAJAJA !!!!

Sorry for laughing! But you guys have issues.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2005, 15:47:

issues? what issues? I don't have any issues. Either you're a pasty or an un-pasty. I really don't care about the shade of your hide. I don't have any *code words* I just make these things up as I go.

Seriously, I have actually seen one pasty, leaving Cali with a very nubile wife, I s'ppose. They were having very extremely hard time at the customs and immigration at Cali airport. Felt sorry for them. I'm pretty sure they missed the flight too. They were made to unpack everything; they checked every little item in her make-up case, they srewed up all her little jars of mermelada, made her spread out all her lingerie ...it was totally painful to look at.

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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captain america says on Nov 19, 2005, 16:07:

if white guys are called pastys is there a slang term for the colombian woman that marries them?

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2005, 16:08:

sorry, cochoprecioso had I known it was you I wouldn't have told that.
Cheers,
Desi
(it was just an anecdote)

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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cochopechocho says on Nov 20, 2005, 03:14:

That's OK Desi.... I accept your apology even though your description of my stunning girlfriend as “nubile” seems a bit contemptuous.

I’m truly sorry that the sight of my girls’ lingerie made you feel uncomfortable or inadequate as the case maybe. But I do think you should save your pity for women that don’t own any lingerie. JAJAJA !

For a minute there I thought the customs officials were going to make her model it.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 20, 2005, 06:01:

uncomfortable yes, inadequate no, cocho I felt uncomfortable onher behalf, not mine. I thought it was embarrassing and felt sympathy for the young woman, that's all. Don't read too much into it.

Inadequate, why? I own a decent wardrobe albeit I don't think owning luxurious lingerie is a top priority in my life. Thanks to good genes and an active lifestyle I have nothing to be ashamed for at my mature age.

I also don't speak out of bitterness or put myself in a situation where I should be compared with women young enough to be my daughters. That's ridiculous.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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cochopechocho says on Nov 20, 2005, 08:31:

This whole thread is ridiculous... But I do like your idea, Mario


"PastyKakes for Pasty Gringo's who want to have their Kake and eat them too!"

It has a nice ring to it:-)

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