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Hi all,
I have deleted a few users. Too much trolling going on here. The rules are quite clear: no personal attacks, and this is not a dating site.

- olor de historia was a troll and all his post/comments have been deleted (despite having a great profile picture)

- Americano4521 was deleted for repeated personal attacks.

- Richardfromtexas was also deleted because of personal attacks.

- naive as well.

Think of PBH as a bar. Have a drink, chat a bit, have a little dance. If you start fights all the time, I end up having to throw you out, because you spoil the bar for everyone. I've had numerous complaints about each of the above.

If anyone thinks this isn't fair or has questions, feel free to pm me in private.

Peter

By Peter (Moderator) on Jul 25, 2007, 07:50 in Friendly Talkzone.

slguy says on Jul 25, 2007, 07:51:

I can only say- Attaboy, Peter!

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:20:

I don't see myself on the list, so I'm good with it ;)

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:32:

And why you didn't delete Vup? Is he not a troll?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:33:

Or are you tracking his IP? ;-)

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:34:

His profile picture is just TOO great ;)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:36:

Scratch that! His old one was great. You can delete his parrot anytime, for all I care.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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podborski says on Jul 25, 2007, 08:43:

great work.

Now can you delete all the guys who are competing with me for the attention of kat and mona? Please?

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:08:

Thanks Peter.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:09:

What stops trolls from just getting a new user name and starting again?
IP tracking and blacklist on IPs.

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Miguel says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:10:

Good job, Peter! Your bar analogy is perfect. If some of those "encounters" happened in certain bars in Colombia, well you know the rest...

"I wonder how easy that is to do I tracked my own and apparently I am in Washington, DC USA. Should I be paranoid about dat? ;)"

Are you really Dick Cheney in disguise? JA JA.

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:12:

Trolls can often be as entertaining as they're irksome.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:16:

Yes, they can be entertaining...
but Mr. Vup started to post commentaries pro FARC in a thread where a well known poster was telling about a family member who has been killed by FARC. Too much, indeed.

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Gator says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:25:

¡Mil gracias, El Jefe!

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:29:

If a commentary is reported that to the wrong person, you get killed in an heartbeat. No questions. You are joking with the wrong people, who has got money and intelligence everywhere. I would even be cautious in writing something like that in a public internet site if I was a gringo living in Valledupar.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:29:

Mr. vup has been deleted too.

Poor but snappy

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:30:

If a commentary LIKE that is reported that to the wrong person, you get killed in an heartbeat. No questions. You are joking with the wrong people, who has got money and intelligence everywhere. I would even be cautious in writing something like that in a public internet site if I was a gringo living in Valledupar. EDIT BUTTON...

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:32:

Point taken robi. I remember another poster threatening to have other members kidnapped by las FARC on one occasion. I wonder if it's the same guy as vup?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:33:

Kalder - Yes, same person (and a number of other aliases)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:35:

that was Colombia_Mike aka Vup aka mariluz aka tati aka barranquilla_bob aka medellin_mike(?) aka a hundred other disguises that this troll has had.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:38:

Nasty.

I remember another braying troll hoping another poster would be kidnapped by las FARC. But this one, I'm afraid to say was British- if his use of idiomatic English was anything to go by.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:43:

What you do not understand, cassini?

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:46:

Walter Sobchak: Were you listening to The Dude's story, Donny?
The Dude: Walter...
Donny: What?
Walter Sobchak: Were you listening to The Dude's story?
Donny: I was bowling.
Walter Sobchak: So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 09:52:

Good point GIB. I was once in a car with a friend of mine- Colombian, but resident in the US. We started talking about police corruption and I swear to you, even though we were alone in the car, he dropped his voice to a whisper.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:05:

GIB, it was not that bad... imagine saying something about "colaborar" and extorsion to a people from the wrong side. Saying that you know people in an AUC group to a "chismoso". That's why you'll never hear about it "in particular", but always "in general". You talk to a person who's working in the market in el centro and he says: "la zona es del tal grupo", but he will NEVER say, I pay vacuna to that group.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:05:

Good for you cassini, great movie! ;-)

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Man Tequila says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:15:

I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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gringoloid says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:44:

Peter, will there be any warnings before being deleted? Desi would give a warning first.

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pedro says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:45:

That guy vup needed to be deleted. He admitted he had four IDs going at the same time, and he was posting crap like crazy. One recent message, I think the first 20 replies were all this same guy using different IDs.

que nota!

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pedro says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:47:

If I'm not mistaken, he also has a history of personally threatening and cyber-stalking people on PBH. So he's already had all his warnings, a few months back.

que nota!

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:48:

I was on the receiving end of the threats.......its never nice when someone threats your family internet or in person

listo

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Brians says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:50:

I find that people who constantly complain about posts being deleted the most annoying. I actually like the troll posts because they usually have agreat story like the the guy from Texas. These other who go on crying about posts being deleted I just want to slap.

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Miguel says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:52:

jjuancho00...go to sleep

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LA_MONA says on Jul 25, 2007, 10:57:

Dios Mio. we have to be very careful,....so spooky.....thanks Peter!

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 11:17:

Yes, I would give a warning first, especially if the poster was an established member of the board. As a newbie if you walk in here and just start trolling/breaking blatantly every guideline in your very first post I'd probably just zap it. Done repeatedly, I'd delete the account.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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arthur brode says on Jul 25, 2007, 11:42:

It seems to me that intelligent posters that lean politicaly to the left and express themselves on this site are also deleted more often."olor de historia" is an example of that.

http://www.calirentals.net/

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 11:47:

Mario and Vic, there's more of it...
IF Peter could publish his IP on this site, IF it happens that he really is a gringo living in Valledupar (and anyone could see where does he post from by his IP), IF it happened that he gave away even little TRUE infos about himself (kind of business, Colombian expertise, etc...).
Well, if I was him, I'd be scared to post again that shit about FARC on this site!
Which is the chance that this site is, maybe seldom, monitored by AUC, FARC, and/or DAS? After all it is a well known site, with its name printed on the main guides to Colombia.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 11:57:

No, Mario, you were just talking about IP policies to avoid trolls posting. I was suggesting, maybe too deep between the lines, that Peter does not need to write a piece of software to implement the blacklist. Sometimes, like in Vup's case, just posting troll's IP on this site would be probably effective...

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 11:59:

actually rob I kept all the personal emails the guy sent me in case it persisted....but it did go away.....but if anything happens I have the emails and can pass them on to the DAS....one thing with the DAS here in Bucaramanga....they take their gringos very seriously.....when I opened my hamburger business a couple of years back the DAS would send over 2 plain DAS officers every week or every few days to see if everything was ok...they would ask me if anyone was giving me a hard time or problems......other than a kid on coke tried to cut me with a broken beer bottle..I never had any "problems" that the DAS was looking for.....but I was never asked by the DAS for a tip or pay off of any kind...when I go to the DAS office I basically just waved through...I guess when they see a green eyed gringo coming they just let him through....once and a while an agent will come by the house and check in on me.....I actually thing that's pretty cool.

listo

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:04:

Yes, Vic, that was what I was meaning. And more... you live in Colombia, and you know that you cannot joke with those kind of stuff here. Not even on an internet site. It is not Europe or the USA!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:11:

damn, desi....Vup was Medellin_Mike as well? ?? now i did not know about that one...and for all you gossipping housewifes out there, Vup does live in Valledupar, is not a FARC or para member, nor a supporter.......if you believe he is FARC as some of you paranoids believe, then i have a bridge to sell you or some swampland in Florida to sell ya....learn what the meaning of "Hook, Line, and Sinker" is.....damn, i was really amazed there were so many gullible people here, but then again, there are many delusional ones as well.....oh, and dont forget to call that Farcette chick using your friggin SKYPE phone.....Operators are standing by.....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:15:

so, posting an IP address will get you what? a fix within a 100 miles radius....give me a break....internet detectives, i am going to puke....

i read alot your emails to Vup as well, vichsere, and you aint the virgin like you are trying to portray yourself....Peter even has read recieved them.....

Vup is in California due to health reasons of a family member.....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:16:

besides, the DAS you sent to his house were tipped 20 mil and then he had a drink with them.....go figure....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:22:

Miguel, I'm not 100% if he was Medellin_Mike, but he did have a handle with Medellin in it. If there's another Medellin_Mike (not the troll), my apologies!).

I believe everything you say, Miguel_Clavo, that he lives in Valledupar and is not FARC but that doesn't make him less a troll. I was willing to give him a chance , one more and he came back and made mockery of all of us.

For Arthur Brode: your political inclinations have nothing to do with being demoted or deleted. We have plenty of left-leaning people that I consider among our top knowledgeable posters.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:24:

WHAT????are you talking about??miguel you persistently try to pick an argument with me ....this is now the third time.....what do you want from me ...I sent the DAS to who's house??? man you have better read my comment again...anyway I would appreciative if you don't comment on my comments...I don't want to carry this any further

listo

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arthur brode says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:29:

Desi,Then why was "olor de historia" deleted?

http://www.calirentals.net/

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:30:

M_C, you're missing the point... I don't think he is a para or FARC or supporter, noway...but it doesn't mean what one may think or not. You don't go on a well known internet site posting that shit, especially if you live in Valledupar and you give away true infos about yourself. Well, I wouldn't do that... call me paranoid if you want.
Good that it was DAS and not Aguila Negras sent to his house...
And, if you think that an IP is a 100 miles radius you doesn't know how things work. Actually it is not like that...
Anyway, you seem to know him well, right? Sorry to hear about his family, he seems to be an intelligent person but using it in a bad way. Maybe we can discuss about it with a beer in SM or Valle one day.
I can remember another member posting bad stuff about Cucuta's DAS and giving away tons of infos about himself. Again, I wouldn't do that. Criticize yes, but not being that rude!

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snake says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:36:

ip addresses can easily be concealed/hidden/masked/jumbled, etc.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:36:

i thought Medellin_Mike posted some photos of himself while trying to sell his apartment in Medellin,,,i met Vup last week for lunch and he does not look anything close to the MM photos.....in fact, he didnt look like what i expected at all! funny how that works....Vup just likes like pulling the chains of the PBH knowitalls, the super internet heros, the pseudo-experts and pseudo-intellectuals here. He has an distaste for all the sex tourists (aka frogs and sapos) who leave their trauma trail tracks all over Colombia while at the same time convinced they are in fact, Bill Gates/Brad Pitts, all is one package......who are on a mission to "bag" as many "kills" as they can.....He may be a troll per the definition, but many PBH rústicos get their panties in a bunch too often and quickly....Peter may say this place is like a bar, but its a bar with no audio, and as such, it can be very easy to misinterpet what is posted.....i know that because i have misinterpreted what others have posted, and i have posted either a retraction or an apology for misinterpreting another persons post....but some people think they can post whatever basura they want, with out being called on the carpet for such trash.....we all are accountable for what we post, and since it is posted in a public media, the expect to have people who disagree challenge the postings......

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:37:

Arthur

Amongst other things, last night olor wrote on as many threads as he could that I was an 'asshole' and a 'fascist'.

Well, I'm certainly not a fascist... ;)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kalder says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:38:

He also kept calling Tinto a 'paramilitary'.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:39:

Because Olor de Historia had more than 20 (that's not an exaggeration) nasty, personal insults directed toward various posters. He'd put them back up as soon as they were deleted. That's trolling/troublemaking.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:46:

M_C, your defence of Vup is without a chance...
Listen, he has been posting pro FARC materials after Colombiche (if I am not wrong) was telling us about one member of her family killed by them. So do you call that "Vup just likes like pulling the chains of the PBH knowitalls, the super internet heros, the pseudo-experts and pseudo-intellectuals here."? Good for you.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:52:

sorry, vic,....when a person reports something to DAS, normally followup on their part is done....well, it was,....DAS paid a visit to his home..based on your complaint...but DAS being DAS, he paid them 20 mil and some beer to go about their business......

i am not trying to pick a fight with you vic....but when you try to demean and belittle some girl in bogota who posted that she was looking for work leads, you blasted her a new one, which was not only not cool, very lame, but certainly unmanly of you to do....proof is in the puddin...you went out of your way, sort of like a vendetta, to make sure she didnt get any work, and you knew nothing about this girl? WTF? is vindictiveness in your DNA or what?

like i said, vicshere, i read your emails to VUP,,,i noticed you didnt respond to my comment about your emails.....gotta love that...i dont have a problem with you, just some of your actions and false pretenses....

robbi.....i dont take anything posted here personally...people can call me anything or any name in the book...after 28 years of police work, and being called everything under the sun from every loquito in San Jose, my response it always, Just Dont Call Me Late for Dinner....but on the other hand, i have learned about BSing from the big boyz, and i can spot BS when i see it...muy facil..and some people used to have blue eyes but now have brown eyes because of all the caca inside....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:53:

Miguel, I was perhaps wrong about that handle then.
Hey, I'm not saying that Colombia_Mike is this or that, I only know what I've read here and gods only know there are many here that would surprise us totally of we ever met them in person. I'm with Peter, on this one, because Vup/Colombia_Mike plus a 100 other handles perhaps needs to open his own forum to be his own private playground . PBH isn't that.

Arthur, I believe it was for personal attacks.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:53:

Snake:
"Ip addresses can easily be concealed/hidden/masked/jumbled, etc."
Of course yes, did he do that? ;-)
Cassini:
Peter is not crazy, he'll never post IP addresses on this site.

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snake says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:55:

hide from the man. lol

http://www.download.com/Hide-My-IP/3000-2092_4-10707445.html

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 12:59:

i agree he should have left Colombiches post about a family member alone. That was in poor taste. But take the blinders off, robbi, and read all of what he posts....i am sorry if some people can not tell bullshit from shinola, or their arse from a jueco in the ground, but that speaks of the world in general....look at the clues, will ya? what respectable FARC member or supporter is gonna ask you to call a FARCETTE in the jungle, on a friggin SKYPE Phone?????? bells should be going off like crazzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....no? god knows we all love drama and a conspiracy....if jumping to conclusions was an Olympic sport, the recruiters would be here PBH like flies on caca....

and i am looking to have that beer with you we agreed on a long time ago...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:00:

Miguel... and if Vic was passing infos to paracos and not to DAS?
Listen, ANYONE who has been living here enough, once threatened can take two ways... Police or Paracos. Let's hope nothing happen.
By the way, when are you back in Cartagena? I'll probably spend there three or four days next month.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:04:

Miguel, i told you, I KNOW he's not a FARC member. But try to understand that it does not mean a shit here in Colombia. You do what he does, you're GONE!

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:05:

MC you have no idea..... you read my emails to Vup????
really how about posting them
seams to me MC your have some unsavory friends
and by the way MC who made you the PBH white knight....did the girl ask for your help???? and if you read my comments correctly I didn't "demean and belittle" the girl....man you really need to read the comments
here a small sample of the shit I got from this troll Vup...you judge..

""Tu caminarás con nosotros muy pronto es VERDAD'" es muy triste un padre mas 50 anos
Colombiche

Me han hecho llegar este documento en relación con las blasfemias producidas recientemente en Extremadura.
Me parece una buena respuesta, por cristiana y por eficaz: ahogar el mal en abundancia de bien.
Dear Vic:
How have things been with you? When do you think we will take that long
walk? I really do believe it to be very soon as I have done my home work
well. I thought this little remark from one of Colombias famous authors
would please
you------------------------------------------------------------------------"And
when they see you, they'll kidnap you, and there'll be nothing I can do
about it."
They wanted to be out of Bucaramonga and on the way back to Santa Marta
well before nightfall, and then, with a nod in my direction, he'd quip, "No
vaya ser que me pesquen al gringo" -- "God forbid they should snatch the
gringo" -- which elicited a chuckle every time. AS they knew their buddy
would soon take his long walk SEGURO 100% MR VIC.

CON MUCHO GUSTO y Siempre BULL SHIT palabras amigo nosotros Victor Jacinto
Once said to us,Vic we a far more than and far more organized than you would
ever imagine. CHAO Tu Amigos
Dear:Vic; I promise I will not be sending you any more emails. I only wanted to rile you up a bit for your Bull Shit remarks,but when taking time to think about how I would feel if I was recieving emails with F.A.R.C. fotos. I was made to realize it would be a upsetting thing. I'am sorry to have bothered you and caused you any discomfort.I hope you have a good life and prevail in what ever you do. Goodbye and really best of luck in everything. Sincerly,You Know Who
Para Vic A.K.A. Cobarde Jacinto Como Estas Mr. Cobarde Vic ?
MR. VIC Nosotros saludo usted con mucho gusto y palabras tu dice BULL SHIT. Pero tu sabes tu tiene voca muy grosseria. Hasta La Vista tu Amigos Con Mucho Gusto.
MR. VIC OR IS IT MR. VICENTE ? Nostotros creo Uste es MR. VICENTE SI?
Dear: Mr.Vic Jacinto-- Hello and how are you today? Porque tu enojado con nosotros y diga Fuck you self, es palabras tan fea.We consider you our amigo.When do you want to have lunch we can go to the pizza hut in Bucaramanga, there is only one and its on the corner and easy to find.I think we can afford to buy our amigo Mr.Vic some pizza. Sincero tu amigas OYE Como tu dice Bull SHIT aye Porque Porque Mr Vic. Chao.

listo

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:09:

hey robbi...heres one for ya....how do ya track a laptop on wireless? to find out the exact physical location of the laptop? ....=)

and you are right, desi about the internet persona and the real life persona probably are quite different...i am willing to admit that even the PBHsuperinternet hero might be just like Clark Kent and Superman....a real stand up guy.....how do the Italians call that? a Gumba??..mario, help me out on that one...jajajaja..

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:15:

Gumba??? What's that... never heard. Maybe you mean Gimba, the way we call sometimes Jeeg Robot.
Miguel, I don't argue about policemen work with you, please, don't do it with Internet - IP stuff with me... Ok?
Without entering in a long debate and technicalities, having access to datas, you can trace time and the hot spot that the laptop was using.

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:18:

And then his ID or if he didn't use and ID, the MAC address of the Wifi board of his PC. And then... wow, it's long...

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:21:

good response, vicshere ...exactly what i thought you would do ..your problem is you are so predictable.....

>"MC you have no idea..... you read my emails to Vup????

yes i did, and i have copies of them....as does Peter...

>really how about posting them

gladly, but i would need Peters or the mods permission to do that because i have respect for them.

>seams to me MC your have some unsavory friends

i have friends in both high and low places.....

>and by the way MC who made you the PBH white knight....did the girl ask for your help????

nobody did nor did i claim that title....and did the girl ask for a highschool or GED grad to evaluate her bilingual abilities and post his criticisms in her post seeking work? sorry vic..the proof is in the pudding for anyone to read her post and your uncalled for attacks...

>and if you read my comments correctly I didn't "demean and belittle" the girl....man you really need to read the comments

get out your GED class dictionary and look up "demean and belittle" ..you stalked her on her other posts and repeatedly smeared her reputation......how manly, dude.....more power to ya...

>here a small sample of the shit I got from this troll Vup...you judge..

you selectively post what you want..you think everyone on PBH is mentally challenged? i have copies of where you threatend to stalk him on every internet forum so he would never be able to post anywhere on the internet again....sounded like a truly deranged and out of control person....maybe someone else was using your computer???

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:30:

you know MC you constantly continue to attack me personal I wish the MODs to review all your comments towards me and yes please post my emails I have no problem with it .....maybe someone is using my email address who knows it is the internet

listo

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:30:

i thoyught Gumba was like a "Good Guy" or a "Good Friend" or something to that effect.....=) i could be wrong as my italian is limited to ordering pizza...ajajajaj..
the hot spot that the laptop was using.

the hot spot that the laptop was using...my point exactly....the hot spot..you know how long that takes? you think the police push a few keyboard stroke and they can instanly locate the kiddie porn dealer?? not that simple my friend....it takes legal proceeding, ISP support, luck and patience.....and lots of time......usually enought time to allow the bad guy to relocate into another place in cyberspace....but that is another topic...=).....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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podborski says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:31:

tati= VUP ??

Damn.

And I was about ready to buy a ticket to cali.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:34:

Don't post private information of other posters including emails they sent you, it's in the rules.

Poor but snappy

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vicshere says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:34:

2 keystrokes away from it GIB..this guys starting to sound like a troll we know...maybe the same person as Vup who knows

listo

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:39:

Miguel,
"it takes legal proceeding, ISP support, luck and patience"
Yes, in USA and Europe! ;-)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:45:

then maybe the doctored emails vic posted should be removed?...yes, Vup was Tati, and for those of you people who sent her your personal info, photos, and prepaid calling card information...shame on you....jjajajaja...i can list the handles if given enough $$??? jajajajajaj

'do it now, but wait, vic, you already said you put me on ignore before, , and you pulled a GIB act..put me on ignore, like i give a rats arse....your postings speak for themselves and dont hold water to intelligent people.....call DAS on me, do whatever you want, but stop whining and talking your trash......like Elmo says...THANK YOU! \ at ^ at /

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:47:

ummm...if you are trying to suggest Colombia has those tracking abilities (ie, military and police intelligence agencies, etc) you are mistaken....not at that stage yet...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 13:58:

No, just suggesting that someone here don't need "legal proceeding".

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 14:12:

that is derinitely true, robbi....but see how that works?? i interpreted your comment as a suggestion that colombian intelligence technology is state of the art, which is not true, but what you really meant was that extra-judicial activity is alive and well in Colombia..which is true...almost totally opposite conclusions...which is my point with VUP.....if a person sees the humor hidden within his posts (ie, pastys, frogs, sapos, shoeshine boy, etc) it is clear that he is having a little fun with people.....but some people here are scared of their own shadows...read too many detective and action novels, stories or movies.....or are so delusional that they believe what they post, to the point there is no possibility anyone else's opinion contrary to their own opinion could be true and valid.....Bogota Don is living proof of that statement....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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BAQ says on Jul 25, 2007, 14:19:

My problem is that sometimes my language gets a bit blunt and on occasion profane, aside from the fact I cant spell worth a damn, oh well hahaha

Semper Fidelis !

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 14:29:

ummm...dont go into police work, ok?? you will starve.....keep your day job.....=)

"this guys starting to sound like a troll we know...maybe the same person as Vup who knows"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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scotty says on Jul 25, 2007, 14:45:

vicshere, if Miguel is bugging you just use the ignore button, i used it and it is great!

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:00:

Los Potatoheads de PBH are rapidly expanding...LPPBH.....my god, the entertainment never stops....jajajajjaj....god bless PBH!!!!...ajajaj..

just remember, we are all just amoebas in a sea of shit.....jajaja...so lighten up and have fun....verdad?...no clandestine conspirators here....only figments of some peoples imaginations......

thanks mario,,,,,i know i just turned 51, but sometimes i forget things...jajajaj...and i am sure mona will remind me of crossed brain signals..jajajaj...=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:08:

damn; another party? Christmas In July? on PBH and I missed it?
...thought I'd never get to the bottom of this thread...
...... happy trails, Vup.

and, believe it Mona... you're far, far....FAR! from getting deleted :)

Where do we go from here?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:25:

Desi....i am always the first one to tell people this is Peters site, with his designated monitors, and the house does as the house wants...so i am not quesitoning Peters nor any of the mods authority or wisdom....when given warnings, i have alway backed off and complied, as i am playing with PBH toys in the PBH house....(as gabo pointed out)...you guys will never hear a peep out of me challenging the decisions of the PBH admin people..Lord knows i know what doing a no win thankless job is like.....

But i also think that a great chunk of people here wouldnt know humorous material if it bslapped them in the face....people want to make fun of me, go ahead,,,its all good....i can laugh at myself.....some people can understand and spot this type of humor, others will never "get" the joke.......

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Colombiche says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:36:

Why does my handle appear on the threats that were emailed to Vicshere?

I have been at the receiving end of some serious stuff and there is somebody out there that is doing a heck of a lot more than just trolling.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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webmanco says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:43:

People get so excited about the IP address thing, and without enough knowledge believe they got the world in their hands. Their mistake.

I am with MC on most of his points of view and do as well thing the ignore button is a girly thing. I saw once someonce profile and the guy got both GIB and MC as friends so go figure. The man in the middle.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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morphus says on Jul 25, 2007, 15:52:

I don't mind trolls. Its those internet stalkers you have to watch out for.

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Monpirri says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:17:

Colombiche, what do you mean?
Let Peter know exactly what the problem is, he can help you.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:24:

C'mon Webmanco! Give it up! Tell me who the ratone is??? biilyb? Goin_South? jajajajaj....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:25:

Webmanco:
Yes I am! I appreciate some M_C posts (I remember the Village People saga) as well as I think GIB is a good and helpful poster. And I don't understand why can't they be in peace... it is a web forum not real life.
Nothing wrong with it, right webmanco?
About IP, well I was stressing it a bit ;-)... not that I was serious (webmanco, didn't you get that?), but I do not like when people want to terrorize others and I was just making fun of Vup about the Aguilas Negras thing... when he told me to cool down and that it has been nice to argue with me, than I just let it go... :-) I do not get scared too easy myself, but I didn't like his attitude and lack of sensibility on that particular thread.

Colombiche:
I noticed it, too... Do you have an explanation for that? Or suspect? What do you mean "a lot more"?

Mario:
Sei veramente italiano? Perchè non ho mai sentito dire che GUMBA voglia dire amico...

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:30:

Clavoooo, it's meeeee! :-) Now, don't stop talking to me now... eh?! ;-)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:52:

I knew it all the time, Robby! i suspected you were a closet-Gibber....jajajaj...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Leeroy says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:54:

This could be a simple, friendly and helpful forum where people chat, exchange stories and have a bit of fun.

This madness is not necessary.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 16:59:

well...it did not take long for americano4521 to reincarnate........=)...(and i am not referring to Leeroy, btw, as his post is above this)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:06:

Well, there are many trolling handle right now on PBH... have a look at the threads, just 90% of newbies right now.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:13:

heres some clues:

Russia......Medellin......Gay topics.....Wealthy......cutthroat businessman who doesnt know if he is 44 or 46......doesnt know if he has been in the US 20 or was it 30 years??...Spanish Lessons.....bragged about F.....king all four friends who were at his table......etc....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:14:

the clock is ticking, robbi...lets see how good you reallllllyyyy are! jajaja...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:15:

17:14.....tick tick tick......=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:16:

And don't forget, first trip to Colombia, security...

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:19:

21 yr old nympho wife.........did i mention he is WEALTHY?......

and your answer issss::_______________________________.

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:27:

Hey Miguel, you're the policeman right? ;-)

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:28:

Elmo.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:35:

nope....not elmo...did you ever see that movie ToSirWithLove?....(clue)......

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 17:39:

Well, ... ehm... no... :-(
Anyway, I go to eat... keep patrolling PBH Miguel... Ciao!

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Colombiche says on Jul 25, 2007, 19:40:

robby, I don't want to go into detail about the stuff that happened but there is real sicko out there.... out here.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jul 25, 2007, 19:40:

robby, I don't want to go into detail about the stuff that happened but there is real sicko out there.... out here.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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manINred says on Jul 25, 2007, 19:49:

Umm, forgive me for pointing out that this thread is starting to make this site sound slightly sketch!!! I guess good riddance to bad rubbish for the trolls and psychos.

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:16:

Hey MC, is it because Going_Senile errr I mean Going_South and I are the only two left who have you on our friends list? jajaja.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:21:

my father always told me to be the best at everything i do, so i would imagine being Numero Uno in the Ignore List would fall into that category.....but i did mention your name first, bro! jajajajajj..i dont know about that, though, i have quite a distinguished group of friends here on PBH.....i added yours so there would be some balance....keeping in mind i like to keep friends in both high and low places....jajajajajajj

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:25:

What I can't understand is all these dudes that have you on ignore, yet they still know everything you're posting??? They just can't get enough of you ;)

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arthur brode says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:29:

Who could it be??

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http://www.calirentals.net/

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:46:

didnt i tell you paranoids always need to know?? i am only a street psychiatrist, but i have noticed that....they always need to sneak a peak, ya know....must be hard reading a thread and then getting that feeling that i havent a clue as to what these people are talking about??...its called the National Enquirer Syndroms.....everyone denies it, but in the US while their groceries are being rung up at the cashier, everyone takes a peek at the Two Headed Alien Baby Story on the cover of the National Enquirer......jajajja..

"They just can't get enough of you ;)".....dont be telling me that, billyb, because i just might get it into my head that i have a Cult following here, and i will issue Peter an Ultimatum where i can post whatever i want, and if he doesnt agree, i will start my own myspace forum where all the Clavistas can gather in peace......sort of like the Waco Whacko people in Texas....but our bbq will feature grilled frogs legsss....

Hey , AB, knock that shit off...you are starting to scare me, bro!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:51:

RWL....i am one of those former government types....did my time and now i am a free agent....never spied on a girlfriend but i alway wanted to own a pair of X-ray Vision glasses where you can see through clothes though...closest to the CIA i ever got....never did get sworn in as a federal agent though.....had to give up to much at the time, so i said no deal.....feds have too much control over you personal life....i never went for that...and it was less money, too.....i live in a place there is no real middle class...you are either a rich bitch or a poh ho.....hey, and that americano4521 joust is all water passed the bridge, too.....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jul 25, 2007, 20:54:

Clavo, one day i'll log with a troll handle, too. I bet I'll make you angry, someway! I know your weakest side... YMCA... YMCA!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:01:

hey, robi...i was thinking about starting up a similar singing group where i could be the promoter.....it would be in YMCA fashion style, but i would call it Los Potatoheads del Mundo......i already have an idea who i want to participate....it would look a little like the Fruit of the Loom character, but with a latin flavor......

but seriously, i can laugh at myself, and at others.....nunca una problema.....but the YMCA thing was funny...jajaja

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:22:

well, it cant be that jet fuel they call vodka.....that shit will even defrost a cold war.....

maybe ...disinformation? feading a full plate of hogwash to paranoid americans who will believe everything?..Rosie ODonell? Bad breath?

oh, please do tell...the suspense is simply killing me.....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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jinksmiester says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:30:

There,s always gonna be trolls in a forum like this but good to see the trash swept out on occation.I can see where some people in here would find it hard to resist trolling ...just to pull a few chains.As long as its in good fun and respectful i can accept that.
Good job peter...and mods.

A man is not old until regret takes the place of dreams

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goin_south says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:31:

Hey, billyb..... why hasn''t Clavo posted anything here on pbh for the past few days??? jej... have you talked with him? he's on vacation? DID HE GET SHANGHAIED Y WAYLAYED BY.... the gringo de Valle-in-Duparque? jej... what happened to Clavo? They deleted him? OMG ;(

Where do we go from here?

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goin_south says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:39:

Naaaah. Never in America RWL, (North, Of Course!)
In other 'Mericas.... maybe.

Where do we go from here?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:40:

damn, billyb..you were right.....Goin_South is Goin_Senile.....wassup with that....?? should we send him a box of the blue or pink Depends?? which do you think fits his personality better? maybe a forced committal is going to be next? he certainly has lost control of some of his functions....jajajjajjj....but the WAYLAYED part sounds interesting.....

RWL...you got that right....the jury system was replaced with the Peanut Gallery system.....or the Bored Housewife Systems.....Americans are too spoiled and expect the government to do EVERY LITTLE FRIGGIN THING for them....amazing.....bunch of potatoheads, if you ask me....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:42:

billyb, have you spoken with Clavo?

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:49:

Haven't seen him since he went to lunch in Fresno. Ooops, we're not supposed to talk about such things in a public forum or some version of the man will pay you a visit ;)

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goin_south says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:52:

maybe he left early, for the Vallenato Festival ;)

Where do we go from here?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 21:52:

hey, you guys are chump change...i will have you know that I, El Clavo, Don MC, (speaking of myself in the 3rd person, like someone we know..) have some heavyhitter shotcaller Rambone types ignoring Moiiii.......you are just hating cause you be jealous.....jajajjaa

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 22:00:

So what you're saying is the an even better class of people than us have you on ignore also? jaja. You can start refering to yourself as Gringo_in_ San_Jose.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 22:03:

There is freedom here, RWL, but not like it used to be.....people have place more and more demands on the government, forcing the goverment to get bigger and bigger and being more responsible, which in turn means more Big Brother Government.....

PBH is a little different, i think, because here there are alot of people here on PBH who are adversely affected by FARC..in a big personal way......i have personally toured military hospitals in Colombia where the land mine victims recuperate and stare at their missing limbs day in and day out...these are not trained Rambo types..these are conscripted kids that are used as cannon fodder....nothing good has resulted from FARC actions and it needs to stop as of yesterday.....life is not meant to be like that, for all those people......personally, i think the FARC and Paras and Narcos need to be rounded up into three opposing futbol teams....Round Robbin tournament played on a area where the bad guys have place their landmines, and let the last man standing be declared the winner before being 10X'd in the forehead.....

I think the homosexual isssue is designed more to keep the gay bashing in check....i could be wrong...

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 25, 2007, 22:05:

dont be a hater, now billyb.....hate the game not the player, bro......jajajaj..oh, no Mr Bill!....not something similar to GIB!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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billyb says on Jul 25, 2007, 22:24:

GISJ has a nice sound to it.