Traveling to Colombia

miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 03:51:

Try the search function here, lot of good informative on your question to be found here,,,You have a long row to hoe to say the least,,,

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panthdave says on Jan 9, 2008, 03:55:

No Visa needed. Marriage ASAP you should be taking your time...

panthdave Miami

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juicerbud says on Jan 9, 2008, 04:05:

Thanks panthdave

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kalder says on Jan 9, 2008, 04:21:

Just to confirm what panthdave wrote...they got rid of the Marriage Visa in 2005; a Tourist is all you'll need.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 05:15:

Well that Info is probably not in the archives here on PBH ; You should have added this fact he has a Deportation Mark on his Record. You may as well get used to living in Col with him permently! In all probability, with this Blemish, he will have at Least a 10 year exclusion from returning to the USA, NO matter the fact he is married to one(us citizen). They(US State dept and ICE) have always been strict on matters such as this but after 9/11, they really are scrutinizing Applicants such as your Boyfriend who have a Deportation mark on their history. I saw more then a few cases such as yours with my employment at the US Krome(federal) Immigration Detention Center located here in SW Miami. BTW, what was he deported for? Minimal 10 year exclusions are for minor infractions like a Visa Overstay or workin without a Valid work Permit. Criminal Deportations could(and in may cases are) result in a Lifetime ban.The fact he/she is married to a US Citizen are of no Consequence-they look at the Applicant's history PRIOR to the Marriage.

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 05:41:

GIB-when a Visa Applicant has a prior record of Deportation and even if it isn't fair, in most cases applicants are Permently Blacklisted in US State Dept Archives as far as receiving legal entry into the USA via a US Visa of any type. Possibly if one had a few Million $$$ to drop on a US Investor Visa that may change the dynamics of the case but then this Applicant who has Millions of $$ at his/her Disposal never would be in this Deportation situation in the first place. They would have had the Funds to present a First class defense with a Good Attorney and probably avoided Deportation in the first place. A High Powered Attorney can make ALL the difference in our Immigration Courts and most Detainees in Immigration proceedings can not afford this luxury. Sadly, Many of those less fortunate end up in a Red Jumpsuit in a place like the Krome detention Center. Money plays a big role in our Justice system, ask OJ Simpson,,,LOL

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kentuckygreg2 says on Jan 9, 2008, 07:06:

Remember the scene in Old school when Vince Vaughn coughed out...Don't do it!!!

LOL. :)

Love and happiness!

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 07:33:

Since your future husband was deported, he will have an embargo from entering the US legally. From my understanding, these are typically for ten years, but they could be permanent.

While it can be difficult and there are no guarantees, you can try to get a waiver that would allow him to immigrate legally. I would recommend that you post your situation in the waiver forum at visajourney.com. You will likely get more informed answers there. You should also consider speaking to an immigration attorney.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?s=df498a2a39048ef79ed43e6f...

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 08:00:

gringoinbogota says on Wednesday January 9th, 2008 7:10:

Jaja yep she needs to move to COlombia. Right on the application for change of status it asks if you were deported? I guess when you check that it goes in the chit can.
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You hit the Nail on the head GIB!

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Colombiano Gringo--my sources of Info is from where I used to work at, the Krome Detention Center, administered by the US Dept of Justice. If that isn't considered "Informed" I don't know what is,,,,

10 year Exclusions(as they are technically termed) are typically doled out for minor offenses such as an Overstay but those for Criminal backgrounds as an example, Permement exclusions are the rule, NOT 10 year Exclusions. You can request a waiver but once someone has the Taint of deportation on his/her record, you would be extremely extremely lucky to receive such a waiver. Use the Money to buy a few lottery tickets, your odds would be about as good.

Speak to an Immigration Attorney? Yes if you have BIG BUCKS to hire a Top Rated Immigration Attorney, by all means. BTW, these(attorneys) of this Caliber start at $300 per hour. And Waiver cases are NOT decided in an hour or two. These cases drag on and on and so does the price. It could easily run $10,000 minimally for a Top Ranked Immigration Attorney to adjudicate a case such as this,,,How Long would the process play out over , anyone's guess,,,,

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 08:02:

So I guess the best advise...don't procrastinate - or you'll pay.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 08:10:

My uncle's wife was deported a few years back. He is in the process of requesting a waiver. It has taken them a long time, but it looks like they will receive the waiver. A couple of people he knows have already been through the process successfully using the same attorney. As I said, it difficult and their are no guarantees, but it is certainly possible and people do it all the time.

As far as "informed", I was not even thinking of your(mm) post when I stated that. It amazes me how easily people get offended around here. God forbid that someone look to other sources of information just because you know some guy at a detention center.

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 08:40:

These stories of seperation are sad but true...always best to be well informed to avoid unnecessary problems. I hope the poster Juic. the best of luck.

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 08:55:

ColombianoGringo says on Wednesday January 9th, 2008 8:10:

My uncle's wife was deported a few years back. He is in the process of requesting a waiver. It has taken them a long time, but it looks like they will receive the waiver. A couple of people he knows have already been through the process successfully using the same attorney. As I said, it difficult and their are no guarantees, but it is certainly possible and people do it all the time.

As far as "informed", I was not even thinking of your(mm) post when I stated that. It amazes me how easily people get offended around here. God forbid that someone look to other sources of information just because you know some guy at a detention center.

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CG--correction. I never stated I knew a guy that worked at Krome; I stated that I personally worked at Krome. I am not offended in the least, I have thick skin and a hardened attiutde, due maybe to my 10 years at Krome. LOL . Oversights occur on websights, nothing personal. As I wrote, a lot depends on why the Detainee was deported but this a tough blemish to erase once on record. Good luck to your Uncle,,,

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juicerbud says on Jan 9, 2008, 09:08:

Thank you all for your comments. Can anyone tell me what forms/id I need to bring to Colombia for the notaries. I am getting a new BC but does it have to have the Apostille on it?

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 09:11:

Each notario interprets and enforces rules as he sees fit. If you have already selected a notario, get his requirements in writing and follow them exactly. You can always shop around for notarios as some will give you less of a hassle.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 09:15:

Mike,

No sweat. The process is certainly difficult and expensive, but it is at least possible in some cases. The cases that seem to have no chance are those that have prior criminal records in the US before deportation. I have known of a few of those cases that were laughed at. In some cases, the person has no choice but to come back illegally if they want to live here.

Forget about good luck for my uncle. Wish me luck. We are still waiting on an approval for the K-3 petition I submitted back in July. This shit is getting old.

Peace,
CG

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 09:15:

Juc - There are many people will give suggestions, if this does not help - try googling Lawyer CO on this site. There is a Colombian lawyer who has been very helpful on this site. You can email him direct and he responds quickly. If you have problems with this check back with me and I'll give you the info to contact him. I really wish you the best...hard to be apart I am sure Purrr

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joshhyman says on Jan 9, 2008, 09:47:

I thought that once somebody is deported from the USA they cannot return for 10 years? Does anyone know if that is true?

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jorgegdiaz (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 9, 2008, 10:20:

miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 13:37:

GIB- In the Pre-computer Era in the INS/US Embassy,State Dept., it may have been possible to skate by INS with less scrutiny but in this day and age of fast Computers, ICE and the State Dept has instant access to your info from anywhere in the World. Like NOW. While a form can say "10 year Exclusion" in reality, the "Unwritten Penalty" may very well be a Lifetime Exclusion. Make No mistake about, once you are Deported, your File is Flagged and in/for any Future Applications. Think about this: a Clean Applicant applying for a US Tourist Visa is raked over the Coals as far as background, resources, ect and many of these "clean Applicants" are turned down and not even for a Good reason. Now take someone who has overstayed a Visa and has been deported; what chances do you really think this person would have to get another Visa. They have, by a preponderance of their past record, proven they cannot be trusted to return to their home country! Why would an Embassy Interviewer want to issue a Visa to a person like this? Most Visa Interviewers would rather give the Preference to an Applicant with a Clean Record. If Criminal Reasons are stated as a Reason for the Depotation and Exclusion, Forget about another Visa. Most Attornies who tell you otherwise are simply interested in taking your hard earned money ; lots of them in Miami across the street from the Main Immigration Bldg at 79th st and Biscayne Blvd for those who know the area. I have listened to countless tales in Miami of People who lost 1000s of Dollars to Attornies with less then Sincere motives when dealing with Immigrants in dire circumstances such as Deportation, Working papers/Green cards ect. In most cases, the person could have helped themselves as much(and at a much lesser cost) by dealing directly with ICE. Many won't beleive this but its true having witnessed it many times. I guess people go to these Attornies because they give them False Hope promising them the Earth&Moon and these shady attornies tell the Applicants what they want to hear, not necessarily the Truth. Caveat Emptor,,,

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2008, 13:43:

JorgeDiaz- I saw a Honduran Immigrant whose REAL Name was Fidel Castro and who was deported 3 times from the US(miami krome detention) in the mid 90s and was never jailed. each time he returned with NO visa and each time he was caught. Little wonder with a Name like Fidel Castro in Miami, like Duh,,, Fidel, why not use a Alias instead of your real name,,,LOL. Each time he was picked up within a week or two and hauled into Krome. He was a Krome Folk Hero/Icon of Sorts by the time his 3rd Deportation rolled around. LOL. Oh BTW, he will never receive another VALID VISA,,,

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 14:03:

I agree that many immigration attorneys are useless at best. You here many horror stories on VisaJourney about people that were caused massive delays because of their lawyer's incompetence. In a case like this, you really have no choice but to use an attorney, but in normal marriage related visa cases, it is absolutely not necessary.


Juicer, If and when my uncle's wife is granted a waiver, I could get the attorney's contact information for you. I would hate to recommend the guy until I had seen for myself that he can be effective in this type of case.

Good luck, but get ready for a difficult process that could very likely end in disappointment.

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juicerbud says on Jan 9, 2008, 14:27:

Thank you!!!

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 14:28:

Get a second opinion before you pay the guy a retainer.

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juicerbud says on Jan 9, 2008, 18:41:

I will. Thanks!!! This sucks!

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john_stark says on Jan 9, 2008, 19:10:

If your lawyer is an experienced immigration lawyer, then I'd go along with him. I have heard of people suceeding in getting waivers.

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 19:19:

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john_stark says on Jan 9, 2008, 19:24:

If the guy is AILA (see www.aila.com) I think you can trust him. Very few lawyers practice any immigration law. I practiced law for 6 years and had only a couple of cases.

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 19:27:

Yes! True too...they are difficult to find and pricey when you do.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Enrique187 says on Jan 9, 2008, 20:39:

damn that was harsh.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 20:51:

Uncool is what it was.

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 20:52:

Maybe Ogie needs a spanking....smack!

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eywed says on Jan 9, 2008, 21:03:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

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CatGirl says on Jan 9, 2008, 21:51:

Hmmm...new perspective.
Juicer: did you file for him or were you planning on this? There is a point here,...even if it's hard to see. Does what Eywed say ring truth?

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 9, 2008, 23:06:

Juice,

I would be careful about letting people that don't know you or your boyfriend give you advice about what to do with your life. The fact that someone overstayed a visa does not make them a worthless individual. I know many people that overstayed visas at one point or another in this country. Each of them is unique with their own particular situations and motives. Some turned out to be excellent people and others were pretty worthless. You know your own situation better than anyone. Do whatever is best for you.

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slguy says on Jan 9, 2008, 23:15:

The key question here is- were you two together when he overstayed? If so- he's either the one that village is missing, or doesn't really care much about being with you. No secret anywhere about ICE's feelings on overstays, nor the consequences.

If you met him in Colombia, after he was deported.....maybe a different story. maybe.

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lpdiver says on Jan 9, 2008, 23:17:

In a case like this it is extremely dependent on individual fact specific details.

DYI 601's are possible. I know a few people who have done them.

It will take time. IF you are sucessful you are looking at a minimum of two years.

In my case I was quoted ten grand and no guarentees. In fact a very famous immigrations attorney who posts here regularly said, " Just find another girl." I handled my own case sucessfully and there was no need to file a waiver.

I spoke with an AILA attorney locally. He represented a woman who was caught with a falsified pass port. You can't do much short of prostitution or drug dealing to piss immigrations off more. He won the waiver. After two years she dumped her gringo.

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"cook some rice!"

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eywed says on Jan 9, 2008, 23:18:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

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juicerbud says on Jan 10, 2008, 03:40:

Again... this sucks.

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CatGirl says on Jan 10, 2008, 05:43:

Juicer: Good morn..Sounds like you are clear on your relationship. Good for you. Purrrr

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Chelesupercono says on Jan 10, 2008, 06:16:

Jucier: Just look up ELMO...... he is right there in NY.......Colombian, faithful, loyal.........no visa problems....guys a Saint....

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 10, 2008, 10:24:

GIB, I know your question was directed at Mike, but I believe you are correct - it is MUCH easier to re-enter the US legally if the visa over-stayer leaves on their own before being "caught."

My wife's friend (former classmate from her colegio in Bogota) lives in Atlanta. She has grossly overstayed her visa. The friend's uncle - same deal. But he got caught and was deported. I keep trying to get the Mrs. to tell her friend to leave now. If she waits until she is finally caught, she will most likely never step foot on US soil again. I also remind the wife that her friends are examples of why it is impossible for her mother to ever visit us here in the US.

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juicerbud says on Jan 10, 2008, 15:25:

TU

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miamimike says on Jan 10, 2008, 17:05:

gringoinbogota says on Thursday January 10th, 2008 5:46:

Hey Mike

Any idea how hard it is for someone that overstayed more than two years but was not deported or went through any process of deportation but voluntarily returned to their home country to get a visa once married? I am told it is easier since they were not deported but not sure how accurate that is?
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GIB--I doubt in all probability the Exclusionary period would be any less then the 10 years for Voluntary deportations. . The fact is they overstayed! In our Circle of Friends here in Miami, we have a Chilean woman who overstayed her Visa 3 years or so. Finally she had to return to Santiago to be with her ailing Mom but prior to Departure, she went to ICE here in Miami. She was lucky to walk out as she almost ended up at the Federal Krome Detention Center! She was allowed to voluntarily deport herself in the end but was informed she would sustain a Mandatory 10 year exclusion on her record. She said a poignant final good-bye to her Friends, as at her age(53), she knew, in all probability, she never would be returning to the USA, AT LEAST NOT WITH A LEGAL VISA IN HAND. In this same group, there were 2 other deportations in the last year-A Colombiano and his Peruvian Wife. All Overstays; these 2 were not so lucky, they ended up in Krome(she , the wife, ended up in a miami prison wing where females in miami are kept in detention). Sad, I visited him on a Sunday(visitor's day) Very eerie feeling returning to where I worked for close to 10 years but sitting on the "Other Side" with the Detainees.

GIB-it really doesn't make much of a difference if the Overstay is 1 day or 3 years. It is an Overstay in the eyes of the State Dept and Immigration. Its like getting nailed for DUI-once the Blood alcohol is over a certain established threshold, you are legally DRUNK and the Fine is the same if you are .001 over the line or if you .01 over the mark. Same Fine! I know these 10 year Exclusions aren't the results some posters want to read but from my time working there, its what I have actually witnesed. Sadly, there is a lot of Bad False Info on the street that raise the Hopes needlessly of those in dire straits. Not to mention, they are seperated from their money by Lawyers with less then altruistic intentions. Caveat Emptor

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slguy says on Jan 10, 2008, 20:56:

juicerbud, I hate to be a doomsayer- but any attorney who promises you a return visa for a forced deportation veteran, especially within two years, is VERY likely yanking your chain and picking your pocket. Unless you have VERY deep pockets.

But then again, maybe he wears a cape in his off hours....

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 10, 2008, 22:25:

Good info Miamimike ... I wasn't totally sure. That is pretty grim news for the OP though.

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2008, 04:03:

GIB, as I mentioned, this is what I Actually observed from the Inside over a 10 year period! Sad thing about the Colombian/Peruvian Couple I mentioned Is that their Miami Immigration Attorney had advised this couple, when they ignored their last Order of Deportation Letter(they overstayed a long time here in Miami), to LEAVE Miami immediately if they planned on remaining Out Of Status here in the USA. This would have given them a few more years before INS got hot on their Trail again! They did not heed his advice and Immigration Agents came calling in the Wee morning hours at their Kendall(miami area) home as they slept, as they usually do and took them into Custody. They were deported shortly afterwards. In this case they would have been better to voluntarily accept self Deportation and just leave themselves. They would have saved themselves the Humiliation of being sent to a Detetion Facility such as Krome, a Mosquito, snake infested area at the edge of the Florida Everglades. A friend of mine, an INS Officer, was bit by a Pygmy Rattlesnake there in the mid 90s and almost lost his arm.. Crazy place as many Career Cuban Mariel Criminals are also detained there on the same grounds. These are the Guys in Red Jumpsuits, the normal Population are in Orange Jumpsuits and housed in a different area but even then, "Things" happen,,,You do NOT want to be in Detention in Krome,,,

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2008, 05:10:

GIB--I literally could write a Book on my time at Krome! I always thought the Highlight of my Adult Life was the Time I spent serving my Coast Guard Enlistment, my working years at the Krome Detention Center topped that! LOL It was a learning experience, albeit a humble one, to say the least,,,I saw a lot of Positive aspects with the US Government at Krome and also some Negative aspects with our Government. Working with Non Criminal Immigrant Detainees was Great but working with the Red Suited Cuban Era Mariel Criminals detained there was one of worst experiences. They are the "Worst of the Worst" at Krome and made our Life a Living Hell with their daily Con Games. A Person can walk away with a Hardened attitude after years of working inside that place,,,

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2008, 07:34:

GIB-Hey maybe I will check out one of those Inexpensive Internet Publishers where you can do a Book on the Cheapooo! LOL The Krome Government Staff shenanagins were as entertaining as those of the Detainees! LOL

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juicerbud says on Jan 11, 2008, 15:46:

Mike, write the book!!!

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eywed says on Jan 11, 2008, 17:15:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2008, 19:27:

Eywed----You should know well about the "Marielitos" having worked in the Keys during that Era. If you thought they were bad then, think how they would be after they were imprisoned for 10-20 years and the Anger that was built up during all that Prison time. This is what we faced at Krome. Sad thing is our Government cannot deport these Bums back to Cuba because we do not have formal relations with Castro therefore No Immigration/Deportation accord. We are stuck with them until that point in time. Jamaica and The Bahamas have Relations with Cuba so they can send the Cubans back home if they land on their islands. A few years ago the Prime Minister of the Bahamas had a 100 or so Cubans detained in the Bahama's Carmichael detention Center and he phoned Castro(they have formal relations) and said "Fidel, I have a 100 of your People, I am putting them on a Plane and sending them back to you. Please have security at the Airport at 9am to meet the Plane" And that was it, they were deported back to Cuba next day. They cleaned out their Camp overnight! Thats what we need, the ability to do this but with the Miami Politicians (Diaz Balart brothers, illeana Ros lehten Mel Martinez, Jeb Bush) all fighting against Normal Dialogue with Cuba, we are stuck with the Trash indefinetely,,,This is the Downside of a Rigid Stance against Cuba and we suffer because of it! Not to mention the Cost,,,

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eywed says on Jan 11, 2008, 19:34:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

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Enrique187 says on Jan 11, 2008, 20:22:

unfortunately many of the offspring of marielitos are scumbag garbage and are proud of it. they embrace the thug culture. one more reason why I hate south florida.

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eywed says on Jan 11, 2008, 20:24:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

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Enrique187 says on Jan 11, 2008, 20:36:

jaja sorry man its true down here.

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eywed says on Jan 11, 2008, 20:40:

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 11, 2008, 23:57:

Take them for a flight from the Kendall airport to Cuba. But when 20 miles south of Marathon, push 'em out the door from 20,000 feet. The langostas need to eat too.

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slguy says on Jan 11, 2008, 23:59:

I took my flight training at Tamiami airport. the 'glades are pretty handy to there, too. ;)

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 12, 2008, 00:31:

I didn't even think about that. 3 minutes and you could give them a tour of where the Value Jet crashed.

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Tomacoma says on Jan 12, 2008, 00:52:

Two thoughts, Coyote, Border, fake docs, es possible, in fact much cheaper than attorney fees...

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Tomacoma says on Jan 12, 2008, 00:53:

OK, three thoughts...

I'am livin' easy, eatin' poke chops greasy!

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miamimike says on Jan 14, 2008, 22:50:

Robert Jorge says on Saturday January 12th, 2008 0:31:

I didn't even think about that. 3 minutes and you could give them a tour of where the Value Jet crashed.

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That was literally in the Krome Detention Center's Backyard!

Another interesting incident occurred at the Everglades Correction Center(located a few hundred yards down the same road we use from Krome Avenue(east entrance). in the late 90s(forget the exact year) on a Sunday afternoon and when the Inmates at Everglades were congregated in the outside Rec Yard by this Prison's East Entrance--a Peterbilt Tractor-Rig( minus the trailer) came roaring down the entrance access road from Krome Ave. He stopped across from the Everglades Gate which was chained shut as it wasn't used often and wasn't the main entrance(thats on the tamiami trail) and the Driver then backed up his Tractor, aimed it at the Gate and floored the Rig. His partner put a Shotgun out the Passenger window and blazing away Wild West style, they crashed thru the gate. An inmate who was in the yard ran up to the tractor and out they Roared. The Staff was confused and flustered at this Prison Break-out and stood by with their Thumbs up their Asses and mouths wide open as the Rig Roared towards Krome ave and freedom. They turned and went North to SW8 st(calle8/tamiami trail) and 3 miles east to a Publix supermarket, there, they ditched the Tractor and were picked up by two female reletives(as it was later discovered). These Guys were caught two days later when he ran a back alley stop sign in Fort Lauderdale. It was a Picture perfect Prison Breakout until he, the escapee, did a dumb thing like that. He was dumb also for hanging around the Area, had he headed for the Carribbean or Mexico, he would probably still be free today. A true story and last I heard, someone was supposedly making a Movie about it! Now let me tell you, that woke up the Krome Staff for sure that day! Usually LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOONS THEY ARE NAPPING, NOT THAT DAY AFTER THAT HAPPENED! LOL

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miamimike says on Jan 14, 2008, 23:18:

Eywed--here's some of the Bad News Offspring of those Marielitos on You Tube taunting the Miami Dade Metro Police. Thank your lucky stars you aren't on that force!

http://www.miamiherald.com/460/story/379561.html

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eywed says on Jan 14, 2008, 23:38:

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miamimike says on Jan 24, 2008, 20:42:

GIB--the reason we cannot deport is that the Trio of Miami Area Congressional Reps namely The 2 Diaz Balart brothers(R) and Illena Ros Lehten(R) along with Senator Mel Martinez(R) and all Cubans control US Immigration Policy, for us (americans who want to vist Cuba Leaglly) and the Cubans we want to deport fight against change in US Diplomatic Overtures towards Cuba. Even if Diplomatic Realtions(official) would allow us to deport these Bums back to Castro. It is one of the most Hypocritical Laws on the Books. It has Nothing to do with Cuban being Communist becase if that was the case, we would not have diplomatic accords with China, not to mention all the trade. This Cuban law is a friggin Joke.

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