Top 101 cities with the most residents born in Colombia (population 500+)

john_stark says on Dec 6, 2007, 20:12:

I saw Hill Country Village, a little suburb of San Antonio and I thought, WTF? If you do the math, 2.4% of 1,028 people is 24 people. So basically there are a couple of Colombian families living there. This is true of many of the places on that list.

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Man Tequila says on Dec 6, 2007, 20:40:

That's an American list. London, Ontario has about 2500 Colombians, Toronto many more.

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 6, 2007, 20:41:

But it is still very interesting. Obviously, the majority of Colombians living in the US are in SE Florida and New Jersey. There were some areas of Miami listed that I didn't even know were incorporated. I thought they were neighborhoods!

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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miamimike says on Dec 7, 2007, 01:40:

Not surprising these areas in Florida; 3 of my Neighbors alone on my condo floor are Colombian. We also have a couple of Colombian Restaurants in the Neighborhood. I don't see any markings on N.Carolina yet they have quite a few that have relocated from south Florida and the NJ areas to live there due to the Lower Cost of Living in the last few years.

Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte después Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte de

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lpdiver says on Dec 7, 2007, 01:54:

Multiply those numbers by at least a hundred to get correction factor for the illegals.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Dec 7, 2007, 04:05:

The title of this post is very misleading. I thought it might 've been Bogotá.
(It should've been "Top 101 US cities...."

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SamGompers says on Dec 7, 2007, 04:42:

This list is totally bogus. They rank according to the "percentage" of Colombians . .. so 3 Colombians living in a town of 6 people would quality as 50%! Notice that New York City is hugely under-represented - - with Queens coming in at #73 with 3% for a population over 2 million. If you do the math, that's about 60,000 Colombians compared to around 300 Colombians in "Victory Gardens, NJ," the top spot. To get a more accurate picture, I'd multiply the Queens numbers by a factor of five to include illegal, semi-legal immigrants. You also would have to add in Colombians in Manhattan, the Bronx, and Brooklyn (excluding Staten Island) for an accurate picture of Colombians in NYC.

U.S. Census data reports that Colombians were the largest group of legal South American immigrants - - at around 700,000 - - in the U.S. (see: http://www.census.gov/prod/2007pubs/acs-03.pdf)

I would bet my bottom peso that both percentage-wise and absolute-number wise, the two top cities in the U.S. for those born in Colombia would be Miami and New York City, hands down. If you consider the New York City Metropolitan Area - - which is a more accurate way of looking at things and includes outlying New Jersey, Long Island, and Westchester "commuter" suburbs and cities, the numbers go even higher.

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travelingirl says on Dec 7, 2007, 04:45:

Yeah, it would be interesting to just look at it in a pure numbers perspective instead of the percentages.

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Gator says on Dec 7, 2007, 05:54:

Most are familiar with Benjamin Disraeli's quotation (often erroneously attributed to Mark Twain): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

"Bene, cum Latine nescias, nolo manus meas in te maculare" .

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Timba says on Dec 7, 2007, 07:45:

Well, last year, Colombians were the largest group of claimed refugees in Canada.
I guess this year, it is going to be Mexicans.

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kalder says on Dec 7, 2007, 08:15:

The whole website's interesting.

I particularly liked 'Top 101 zip codes with the most alcohol drinking places'.

Hurrah for Austin Texas!

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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miamimike says on Dec 7, 2007, 10:24:

gringoinbogota says on Friday December 7th, 2007 4:00:

In general I feel Colombians, unlike Mexicans come to the US and learn the language and move on up the social ladder. They are intelligent and interprising and don't have a chip on their shoulder or some ideal that they are going to invade and take back America bullshit swimming though their heads. In other words they are better educated.

They a lot of times end up marring a domestic spouse also unlike the Mexican.

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Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte después Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte de

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donmia says on Dec 7, 2007, 14:00:

the miami-area postings are essentially the same city/area separated out into roughly 8 different towns. that would make miami #1, no?

i agree with mike's assessment of the colombians who are here in the states. very pleasant, very well educated and have a strong desire to assimilate into their new home if they are planning to stay.

I would also add - extremely hard working. But that seems to be a trait of anyone who is willing to leave everything behind and set out in a new country. (well, almost anyone)

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nueva york bombero says on Dec 7, 2007, 14:01:

What happened to Jackson Heights, NY? I live near Brentwood and that is full of Central Americans.

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john_stark says on Dec 7, 2007, 17:22:

I love watching the Mexican soccer league games from Guadalajara. When they pan the stands they always find some real babes. Better than anywhere else in Mexico. I've always wanted to visit and leer at the women in person.

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David Pristupa says on Dec 8, 2007, 03:17:

London Ontario has been nicknamed
Colondiana. The population is sizeable
enough to be noticeable in this medium
sized Anglo Canadian college town.

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webmanco says on Dec 8, 2007, 04:13:

Londombia

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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Colombiche says on Dec 8, 2007, 12:05:

I was reading an article on the toronto star this week. It says half the people in the toronto area are born overseas. It actually has a breakdown of where immigrants are born. Latinos make up a very small percentage of that population, let alone colombians. Most of the immigrants in toronto are chinese, followed by Indian. Those two groups alone make up most of the immigrant population.

I think chinese and indians are cool smart people, but we should have variety. I don't want to live in a city that is going to become little india or little beiging, a city where a couple of minorities control the game and tip the scales (well I wouldn't mind living in Miami although I'm screwed since I am not cubana).

Screw that. Variety is the spice of life, I like to see a bit of everything.

We should have even numbers. I feel like Canada shuns latinos in favour of people from other regions. So many of my relatives have been denied canadian visas, they don't even bother trying anymore. :(

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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john_stark says on Dec 8, 2007, 15:32:

I must admit I have always thought that Canada was a little wary of Latinos. Have you been to Vancouver? You start looking for someone else on the street who is not Asian after a while.

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Colombiche says on Dec 8, 2007, 16:10:

Hongcouver?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 8, 2007, 16:16:

Colombiche says on Dec 8, 2007, 16:21:

When I was working in the UK I was dealing with a couple of Welsh guys, I couldn't understand one bloody word they were saying to me.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 8, 2007, 16:23:

manINred says on Dec 8, 2007, 18:35:

"We should have even numbers. I feel like Canada shuns latinos in favour of people from other regions"

I get that impression too! To be honest, I think in the urban centers that is gradually changing, Toronto has more and more latinos each year, as does montreal.

"So many of my relatives have been denied canadian visas, they don't even bother trying anymore. :("

That's what really irks me. I mean, I shouldn't feel hard done by, I didn't even end up trying, but the fact that the Canadian gov. has the audacity to say "we aren't letting your family visit you" is one of the most outrageous and bombastic injustices that I can conceive, in my humble opinion. Who are they to say that?

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SamGompers says on Dec 10, 2007, 16:46:

Gringoinbogota says on Friday December 7th, 2007 4:00:

In general I feel Colombians, unlike Mexicans come to the US and learn the language and move on up the social ladder. They are intelligent and interprising and don't have a chip on their shoulder or some ideal that they are going to invade and take back America bullshit swimming though their heads. In other words they are better educated.

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Sorry, but this is just total baloney - - and an uninformed indulgence in stereotyping. First, there are millions of "Mexicans" who have lived in the United States for generations, many who have roots in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas before these were even states. Second, Mexicanos come here for one reason: to make good! Same reason Colombianos come to the U.S. Third, because of the proximity of Texas and California, and because both economies have now become agro-service economies, with high demands for unskilled labor, Mexicans enter the U.S. job market in the lowest paying occupations available - - picking artichokes, cutting grass, cleaning homes. Maybe that's the reason why they don't appear to you to want to "move on up the social ladder" - - because they are stuck in low-wage, super-exploited jobs, difficult for anyone to rocket up the social ladder from there.

Colombian immigration has a different dynamic - - which includes a strong contingent of professional and middle-class "homesteaders." Given the relatively smaller numbers of Colombian immigrants, this group seems more visible.

In any case: Viva la Raza!

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Colombiche says on Dec 10, 2007, 19:49:

"That's what really irks me. I mean, I shouldn't feel hard done by, I didn't even end up trying, but the fact that the Canadian gov. has the audacity to say "we aren't letting your family visit you" is one of the most outrageous and bombastic injustices that I can conceive, in my humble opinion. Who are they to say that?"

It's not like the canadian government has an OBLIGATION per se to allow my colombian relatives to visit me, but at least they need to get their criteria for handing out tourist visas straight. I have seen so many con artists waltz in with the silliest stories you could ever imagine. Yet my two aunts, both in their 50's, well off - with valid american visas - made it as far as Niagara Falls NY, and couldn't cross the border up into Canada.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Dec 10, 2007, 19:58:

Another story and this one is a real tear jerker.

I know this lady from Bogota, good friend of my family's. 42 years old and is dying of cancer in a Toronto hospital. I have seen her suffer through chemotherapy and radiation treatments over the past 5 years or so. She has two sons now aged 19 and 20. These kids have been the sole caretakers, she is a singe mother. Both guys are attending university of Toronto working hard to get their degrees so that they can look after themselves.

She has a single sister living in Bogota who has been denied the canadian visa at least 3 times. Her sister wants to come up here to care for her. I think even the doctors who look after her have petitioned to no avail.

I saw her a few days ago and she seems to be in the final stages now, the cancer has attacked her brain and she can no longer speak. It seems at this point they are just administering drugs to ease the pain. She still recognizes people though, because she smiles at me when I hold her hand.

None of her family is able to come up here to be by her side, at least to support the boys through the ordeal of losing their mother. They are completely alone. They only really have us, that's it.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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john_stark says on Dec 10, 2007, 20:54:

I agree Colombiche. What I would like is for the consular officers of both Canada and the US to act according to clearly stated rules. The way it is how it's really based on whim. They make a lot of bad decisions but they don't care. For example, they gave my brother-in-law a visa but he doesn't own property - he has a job running a small business but that's it. My sister-in-law has an apartment, a high-powered job and a kid that she was going to leave behind in Colombia. No visa for her. It's totally arbitrary.

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