To the mods

john_stark says on Jan 12, 2008, 18:38:

Very amusing.

Medellin Traveler says on Jan 12, 2008, 19:16:

Don't stoop to their level Johnny Boy.

In other news.... I have TWO TICKETS TO THE BULLFIGHTS for Saturday the 26th! Let's do the Macarena!

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 12, 2008, 19:58:

JS, was the guy calling you "J-ass" the same one who called me "Bob"? Just curious if it was Lexus.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

Sr Tertius says on Jan 12, 2008, 21:20:

I wonder if the person calling JS "J-ass" is the same that used to call me "Testass". Quite inventive!

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

scotty says on Jan 12, 2008, 22:50:

JS,
MT is right dont let it get to you man.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

christobeldawg says on Jan 12, 2008, 23:07:

so you do have a sensitive side John? you have called me names btw. ya can't have it both ways.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

billyb says on Jan 12, 2008, 23:21:

Jajaja, for a rough and tumble texan, he sure is a bit sensitive, any criticism and of and running to the mods are we.

christobeldawg says on Jan 12, 2008, 23:44:

he referred to me recently as a gringo clown. Can you imagine that, with my avatar? jaja I blasted him back, can't say how, as Desi asked me to delete it.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2008, 00:37:

Just contact us, send us the URL to the page and we'll deal with it.

Poor but snappy

Desi1 (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2008, 00:56:

I've already edited that comment.
I agree with Christo, you can't have it both ways, John. I believe in having a little self-discipline and manners; what is said in anger can be edited afterwards and no bad feelings.
Peter's advice is the absolutely best way to handle personal grievances.
Cheers!

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 02:06:

I disagree. I hate being a whiny little bitch complaining to the moderators. The mods keep thinking that people are going to show manners and behave. They aren't going to and the state of PBH is proof of that. This has been my gripe with the site for years. You guys are like referees who refuse to do their job but instead keep complaining about the players and why won't they play clean. They will but only if you display a willingness to enforce the rules. After a period of enforcing the rules the site would start to show some civility but it won't happen until you do.

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 02:28:

Christobeldawg, if I specifically called you a name then I hereby apologize.

scotty says on Jan 13, 2008, 02:48:

there you go dawg he apologized, now you guys shake hands .

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Waterdawg says on Jan 13, 2008, 05:57:

I remember some saying John had a nice ass !

kalder says on Jan 13, 2008, 06:04:

Does the J stand for 'Jive'? As in 'jive-ass motha...'?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

Medellin Traveler says on Jan 13, 2008, 06:43:

"The mods keep thinking that people are going to show manners and behave. They aren't going to and the state of PBH is proof of that. This has been my gripe with the site for years. You guys are like referees who refuse to do their job but instead keep complaining about the players and why won't they play clean. They will but only if you display a willingness to enforce the rules. After a period of enforcing the rules the site would start to show some civility but it won't happen until you do."- john_stark

I would have to completely agree. It all starts with the moderators setting the ground rules and enforcing them, and treating everyone equal, regardless of favorites.

But... the members also have to act like adults as well. I do not get why grown people choose to act like children on here 'cause it's the internet.

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hongo_joe says on Jan 13, 2008, 07:26:

It is very Colombian

diabloblas says on Jan 13, 2008, 08:33:

too funny clyde

wendell13 says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:20:

oh pobrecito. you can dish it out but not take

my advice is get a life

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:25:

Perhaps dropping "Kill all the gringos" might be helpful?

gringoloid says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:27:

J_S......AMEN!

tomtom33 says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:31:

A little less xenophobia might be nice as well.

gringoloid says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:33:

Actually J_S, being called a jack___ is really not too bad.

Today, I had two sexual insults delivered for absolutely no reason, one from a mod on a mundane banking thread and another from someone else who can't defend their points rationally.

It can get a whole lot worse, dude.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 15:59:

And for many "OH, not THAT AGAIN!" or "do a google search we already discussed that!" when a newcomer asks a simple, easy answered question. The newcomers did not see what was discussed earlier, and the searches usually produce meaningless bullshit.

joetexan says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:04:

I agree that JS loves to insult people so I found his complaint humorous.

I have participated on a lot of political websites with very intense conflicts -Jews/Arabs, Demoncrates/Republicans, Europeans/Americans, etc., but even the insults tended to be creative and funny. Not here. Here is seems to be mostly people who want to tell you want you can say and what they have decided you can't say. Like they own the place. Little nazis. Like the "stauch Catholic" JS telling me my posts about cultural and religious differences are "sick, garbage, stupid," etc. Not real creative and definately boring.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:06:

For sure! But his comments are totally without humor.

Born in: Antarctica
Has traveled in: Missoula, Montana Barrington, New Hampshire Provo, Utah Mentone, Texas

Gimme a break!

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:16:

It is nice to meet people here who can seriously discuss situations and possibilities in Colombia, not CLOWNS!

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:17:

I think it's fine to disagree with someone's comments and all of the above posts don't bother me in the least. Calling my comments stupid or idiotic, I can handle. They frequently are stupid and/or idiotic. Of course many of you don't remember my disclaimer which maybe I should resurrect:

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:18:

and?

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:19:

Why waste your time or ours?

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:21:

Most people here seek genuine information about this country, not bullshit.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:22:

And, insults are usually taken seriously

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:22:

That's why they have the Ignore feature, dude. However, you never know, I've read some interesting comments from people I thought were total idiots and then lo and behold!

Colombiche says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:23:

I try to keep up with all the insults, but if I miss one, please send me a message and I will delete asap. I try to read all the comments on the page, but I clean toilets 14 hours a day :)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:24:

Looks like you slipped up and disclosed yours and Elmo's rendevous point.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:24:

Why should everyone ignore insulting comments? BUT, I do hear ya'.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:25:

Assholes do sometimes offer some wisdom.

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:25:

"Most people here seek genuine information about this country, not bullshit."

PBH would be one of the last places I would get reliable info about Colombia. Of course I could change my mind if Morphus continues to surprise me with his gems.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:28:

I even USED to listen to Rush Limbaugh, in the USA, although I seldom agreed with what he said.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:29:

Most everyone has SOMETHING of value to say.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:29:

Except for me, LOL.

manINred says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:35:

"PBH would be one of the last places I would get reliable info about Colombia"

I too have found a disconnect between the reality of Colombia as vastly portrayed on this website and my own experiences. That being said, there are many people and threads on this site that do offer very valuable information and good advice.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:35:

But, John, you reduced your credibility to -1 with the "Death to gringos" statements

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:38:

I find it is worthwhile to view comments here, and TRY to balance them with info from other sources. And I have Colombiano friends here, in Panamá.

And, I have spent a few days with the lovely people in Cartagena.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:49:

Well said, maininred, I am sure

jake074701 says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:50:

UTC/John_Stark has donated more info here than alot of the newbies "know it all" combined.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:51:

Yes, but of what value?

slguy says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:51:

"I hate being a whiny little bitch complaining to the moderators."

Then, ummm, what would you call the title of this thread, john? ;)

A couple of you guys get upset for sooo little reason. There's more than one poster here that can call me whatever they want- couldn't care less. "consider the source" I think it's called....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:52:

"Death to gringos"? very questionable value

ujay says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:56:

too many on here are complaining to the moderators,over nothing,and getting them banned before the other guy has put his point,words cant hurt ,live with it.

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sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 16:58:

For sure, SL! Very thick skin on the outgoing, BUT, "Don't tread on ME!", because I will whine!

sloopskipper says on Jan 13, 2008, 17:10:

I'm sorry, but the guy I was talkin' about, and I don't remember the thread, finalized with "Kill the gringos" and I think he is gringo in MONTANA, USA. How sick is THAT?

john_stark says on Jan 13, 2008, 18:19:

Did it ever occur to you that I might have been joking? Talk about literal-minded.

robi666 says on Jan 13, 2008, 18:54:

Jesus, John, were you just joking? I am taking you out from my list of friend... :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

robi666 says on Jan 13, 2008, 18:56:

Sometimes there is some long thread that I am too lazy to read. If John posts, I just read his post and know what it is all about.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

Colombiche says on Jan 13, 2008, 20:05:

"Looks like you slipped up and disclosed yours and Elmo's rendevous point"

Well, clyde outed me.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

christobeldawg says on Jan 13, 2008, 20:10:

the kill the gringos remark is the bad John. He actually has a nice side, and is often very informative on this site. apology accepted JS, no big deal. You really should consider, since you're here alot, adding some friends. You have NONE, which makes no sense.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Robert Jorge says on Jan 13, 2008, 20:26:

He's got one now. I thought I had put him on my friends list. I guess it was his last alias. The SOB gave me good info on visa details 2 years ago - I consider that a friend.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

christobeldawg says on Jan 13, 2008, 20:34:

maybe his utopian cowboy persona accepted friends, but look now, no friends. wtf, I'll be his friend as well..

admittedly, arriving can feel great too