To Miguel Clavo

Colombiche says on Jun 4, 2006, 19:58:

oops, pardon my late night html fixing

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jun 4, 2006, 19:58:

fixed?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 4, 2006, 20:14:

Well, I can say with certainty ....{(edited) it's late} That if it was you that Miguel-Clavo was making reference to, he is not correct. First of all there is quite a bit of Mexican bashing on this board, but Colombiche has never been a participant in that realm. In fact, I can substantiate with absolute certaintly that she did include a post toward the begining of my thread where she had commented about how she could not understand why Latinos attack each other. I remember that post because I thought to myself at the time that she misunderstood where I was going in my post. I just happened to mention the fact that she was Mexican because I wanted to illustrate that I was forced to hire a Mexican as opposed to a Colombian because she was the better candidate. At the same time, there was a part of me that I saw as ironic in that I have always been accused of being pro Mexican and anti Colombian...(here on PBH).

From what I know of Colombiche, I feel that she is NOT the type of person that would harbor resentment against any single group of people, and certainly not her fellow Latinos. She will criticize the person because of who he/she is, not because from where he/she has come.

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Colombiche says on Jun 4, 2006, 20:18:

And to be fair... gomezman might sound like he is on a Mexican bashing spree with his last post, but he has always spoken very highly of everything Mexican.

So much that he has "lovingly" been nicknamed "Gomexman".

I was just jogging around my neigborhood and as I passed by my neighbor's house they were playing "Sombras nada Mas" by Javier Soliz. Now I have that song in my head.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 4, 2006, 20:23:

Call Me GOMEXMAN.....Kernow gave me that name. I just like it.

By thw way, Colombiche, I edited my post, taking about horrible grammar and word ussage. I have written in Spanish better that than I firt wrote the above post.

I'll have to give this girl a name. The more I refer to her as the Mexican, the more it keeps sounding like I am indicting Mexicans. Anything can be further from the truth...especially since....Copa Munidal starts next week

Go US
Go Mexico

In that order

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 4, 2006, 20:47:

Thanks Mario...... I lost site of that fact......Correction (post will be edited) is on the way

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 5, 2006, 00:15:

Or It could be me! he refereed to me as the lady who doesn't like Mexican in one thread, but he knows that I do, and I explained to him on that post. he took one of my coments the wrong way ;)

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 10:37:

well I remember that you (kat1) said raliegh was "full of mexicans". that didn't sound too nice, so maybe he took it the "wrong" way.

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Albatross says on Jun 5, 2006, 11:11:

. The "Latino against the World" philosophy is the Latino's worst enemy.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Colombiche says on Jun 5, 2006, 11:15:

Albatross .. I never claimed latinos ought to be against the world.

I just don't think we should belittle each other, la caridad comienza en casa.

How can you look kindly upon the rest of the world when you treat your own brother like crap?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 5, 2006, 11:20:

johna yes that was my comment, and he took it the wrong way, but explained to him, later that I didnt meant it the wrong way.

I dont have anything against Mexican at all.

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Albatross says on Jun 5, 2006, 11:30:

CB I wasn't referring to you specifically (but if the shoe fits...), but to the Latino population in general.

I suppose it's human nature to hang together with your own tribe, but it's easy to take things too far. Case in point: today is the first day of work for the first of 6,000 National Guard to be posted along the U.S. / Mexico border to help keep THEM out.

I can't help but think that if more Mexicans had been more willing to embrace the American people and our culture (such as it is), that President Bush would not have had to call in the troops.

And yes, I realize that it's not quite that simple.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Colombiche says on Jun 5, 2006, 12:09:

That is a whole different can of worms.... Even if Mexicans embraced American culture, no country on earth (no matter how wealthy) can support an unlimited supply of unskilled illegal aliens.

Economics... it is pure and simple.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 12:29:

What is American culture? Right now it seems like it is reality TV, fast food, summer movies, crooked politicans, SUVs, FEMA trailers, prison industries and support our troop ribbons.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 12:46:

Well johna...... While you may be less than pleased with American culture, you will have a hard time convincing me that allowing this country to get invaded by the millions is a better alternative than taking the appropriate steps to change things right here.

By the way, I don't know from what planet you are coming from, but your above post refer to crooked politicians, and when it comes to corruption and bad politics, the US doen not hold a candle to that of Mexico. In fact, anyone who even has a clue of what is happening down there, will tell you that the main reason Mexicans have to come here in droves, is because of the corruption and lack of ability of Mexico's leaders to tend to the needs of their people. Do you question that point?

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 13:26:

I live on the planet earth and a big chunk of it is being destroyed by a group of thieves who cheated their way through the presidential elections in the US. Now that they theived their way in (mexican gov. can take lessons) they refuse to sign international environmental conventions, start wars, and keep up the war on drugs while abandoning the one on poverty. Now you know what planet I am living on. Does that help? By the way did I say anything about illegal immigration being a good thing? I was simply pointing out that the reason they are not wanted, is not because of their refusual to embrace "American culture". In fact it is the opposite. American "culture" refusing to accept them.

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 13:48:

So to answer your last question.... ...yes I question the point. In the US 10% pay little proportional tax and have money that one can only dream of. This is the superrich or as Bush calls them "his base". You have the same thing going on in Mexico but with a smaller economy. So no I don't think they are that much worse. Yes we have a better standard of living in the US due to historical forces, not better leadership in the present.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 17:26:

Gringodiego God Bless you!

You did a fine job in your above post.

"Immigrant rights"
"human rights"
"undocumented immigrants"

They are IN FACT: "ILLEGAL ALIENS" nothing more, nothing less. And this country is embarking upon a precedent to reward illegal activity.

Hell, I was listening to some people comparing "their struggle" to that of black people with Dr.Martin Luther King spearheading the civil rights movement. How utterly ridiculous.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 17:27:

double post//

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Monpirri says on Jun 5, 2006, 17:39:

L E G A L Yes! ILLEGAL NO WAY! Legal is the way to go in any society!
I don't know the full details of that evolved this thread, but even Miguel_Clavo agrees with legal status is the way to go.
See http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/18052 What’s going on my friend Miguel_Clavo?

In regard to Colombiche and Kat1 they are two of the finest Colombian members with an exemplary record of contributions. Even when they joke around they mean no harm to anyone!!
I would bet if a guy made the joke or the comment in question here or somewhere else, no one would be complaining or would be upset, because the joke or comment delivered from the male icon would be justified as his personal signature or as a cultural humoristic trait of said individual.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 18:57:

Monpirri...chill a sec We are in fundimental agreement (a rarity) on two things:

1. Colombiche is a fine Colombian ladies.
2. Legal yes, illegal no.....

Let's enjoy the party while it lasts

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:05:

Monpirri and G5 I disagree with your analysis that this is basically about legality/illegality. Colombiche and Kat1 are great but Migue_Clavo should point out what he considers a bigoted comment (not that it was KAt1) whether it is made by a guy or girl. And G5 :
""Immigrant rights"
"human rights"
"undocumented imigrants"

They are IN FACT: "ILLEGAL ALIENS" nothing more, nothing less."
WRONG! they are people. A person is not illegal, they commited an illegal act or do not have legal status. So they are more than "illegal aliens". That is just Orwellian gibberish.

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caslug says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:08:

Johna, I think one thing US has over ALL countries.. is wealth of "opportunity". Other countries might have happier folks, less stress, more orderly or liberal, etc., BUT no where in the world is there a place where people of all ethnic/cultural/national/racial/social background have a decent chance to improve their economic condition by hardwork.

You constantly hear or seen people that started with nothing(incl no education) and within one generation they or their family jump one or two economic class. Lots of those people are immigrants(legal) that came with nothing, then they work, went to school at night, got their degree and start working or started their own business. Then in 10-20 yrs became very successful. US govt GIVES money to go to school(in forms of grants or loans), US banks LOAN money to help start businesses or buy house for people with NO credit history. Top colleges recruit poor student and provide them with financial aid. When the student graduate, companies hire them NOT caring what their social background was.

US companies dont care what your family "was", only if you can make them money. If you work hard, make your company money, they GIVE you more money! And if they don't OTHER companies will hire you away AND GIVE YOU MORE MONEY!

One reason we american can sit around and bitch about our country is because we have the luxury of have time on our hand. We don't have to work every minute of the day IF WE DONT WANT TO. In COL, for example, people work LONG hrs, 10-12 hrs M-F, then 4 hrs on Sat.

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johna says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:14:

Guess what? I was working when I wrote that. I agree with you there is opportunity. what I was responding to was the idea that troops have been sent to the US border to keep Mexicans out, because Mexicans can't adopt to our "culture". I was just describing the culture I see daily.

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Miguel says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:16:

Grácias a Mario for the clarification and to you G5 for your edit.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:19:

Your welcome Miguel..... I get in enough trouble for things that I intend to say......I certainly don't want a problem for the unintentional.....My best to you Miguel....and Mario for the reminder.

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webmanco says on Jun 5, 2006, 19:52:

Caslug, nothing in life is Free and money is not all there is in life.



Un hombre da becas a jóvenes latinos para que no se enrolen en el ejército de Estados Unidos

Three USA marines entered Fernando Suarez house at Escondido in California and told him, your son is a hero, he died from a bullet in his head from enemic fire.

Suárez whose mother is from Colombia, created "El Proyecto Guerrero y Azteca por la Paz, in honor of the second latinamerican who dies in the Irak war.

The USA Army didn´t want Suárez to see the face of his son, they told him he was unrecognizable. Suárez still wanted to see his son, the face was fine. A northeamerican newsman based in Iraq told Suárez his son didn´t died from enemic crossfire, it was from stepping on a land mine thronw by North American planes.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Monpirri says on Jun 5, 2006, 21:12:

Gomezman5 Please get this straight; you and I are like oil and water.
We do not agree in anything!
Here are the reasons:
1. You left out Kat1 in the above comment. She is also knowledgeable fine lady and a truly star here at pbh. That’s a major reason I do not agree you again!
2. The topic of illegal immigration was been discussed prior to the president addressing the nation and you and your compadre have been MIA. Where have you been? Now you come out!
3. You continue to use this site to promote your favorite country and we all know that is not Colombia.
4. In a way, you are responsible for this mess because you began to instigate our humorous and cheerful member by offering a good time in some hotel.

P.S. Have you ever read GringoDiego feature stories? He's another TOP GUN here with his positive contributions.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 21:41:

monpirri You are correct....(unfortunately)
I mistakenly left out Kat1...but not completely. If you will note, I did say "ladies" ladies means 2...as in plural.But genious, the mere omission of Kat1, didn't mean that I thought any less of her. The two people are mutually exlusive.

You're so imature monpirri..your "you and I are like oil and water" comment proves my point. Only kids think like that. Will you ever grow up? Honestly, I never heard of adults talking like that...especially since your primary beef with me is that my political views defer from yours. Aren't you embarassed at the way you conduct yourself? How old are you monpirri?

Let me try and educate you oh great teacher. Gringodiego and I have not agreed on much. But, his last post was brilliantly stated. So you can try until your hearts content to bring a wedge between him and I, but when I agree with something that someone has written, I will tell that person as such. Does it really bother you so much that I agreed with Gringodiego's post? I'll tell you what, let's see if it bothers him that I am in accord with his views on the immigration issue. I don't think he will react quite like you.

Monpirri...seriously...get help....fast. Maybe it really is just a maturity issue. If you're still in your teens, you conduct is easily explained away. If you are well beyond that, than stop acting like a teenager. Be a mench!!

Now I see.....!! You're just jealous because I offered someone else " a good time in some hotel" and I did not extend the offer to you. I knew it,,,,I knew it.....you dog you.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 5, 2006, 21:48:

"Right now it seems like it is reality TV, fast food, summer movies, crooked politicans, SUVs, FEMA trailers, prison industries and support our troop ribbons."

I guess that says more about you than anything else. Pretty much like some ignorant slob saying that all there is to Colombia is cocaine, drug dealers, guerillas, hookers, poverty, beauty contests, corruption and coffee.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Rubiazo says on Jun 5, 2006, 22:04:

UC stop making Colombia look so good, it isn't all a bowl of cherries over there you know! :P Plus you forgot burras!

And for the record YES YES YES the US is as corrupt as any other country out there. Anybody who thinks differently has his head stuck where the sun don't shine!

You can bash any country you want, because you know what, YOU WILL BE RIGHT. You can even bash any race of people, or either sex, or any skin color, and YOU WILL BE RIGHT! You know why, because collectively as human beings we STINK! Only as individuals do we ever shine, as a group we are a pretty miserable lot!

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 5, 2006, 22:16:

Hey UC...good point My point again is vindicated. Come on here and make negative generalizations about Colombia on this board, and you get the likes of monpirri and his gang castigating you from here to the moon and back. On the other hand, make all the idiotic and childish generalizations about the US, and most (all)with minor exceptions, sit here here like a bunch of fools. Hypocracy at its best.

But you know UC, for all this US bashing, I don't see any of these brain trusts calling for the return of some of that money from Plan Colombia. Yea, maybe we in the US are a bunch of suckers after all, we shell out the bucks, and likes of the many PBH board members just take the money with their hands behind their backs, while laughing at us.Imagine what shape Colombia would be in today if they were not the recipient of these funds....I don't have to imagine. I know.

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Colombiche says on Jun 6, 2006, 04:23:

I just wrote this post to cle I just wrote this thread to clear the air, I don't think the person I addressed has even replied.

It just became yet another kindergarten fight.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 05:57:

kids kids......your right.... A kindergarten fight.....And who fires the first shot? You know....it sure the hell is not me. I just get attacked for voicing an opinion...not by you, I have to clarify, you can debate intelligently. Maybe Monpirri would want to take a lesson or 2 from you.

And Gringodiego. whether we agree one time or many, this one time, I am strongly in agreement with what you wrote. In fact, it does not make sense for any clear thinking Colombian to think otherwise. They cannot cross any borders to come here. They have to do it the legal way. I never heard of anyone swimming the sea to get here. I suppose it is concievable you can get here through Central America and Mexico, but that is something possible in theory more than it being a reality. While I recognize that there a lot of illegal Colombians here, %99 of them came here in a lawfull manner in the first place and they simply over stayed. OK, that was wrong too. But at least, they entered the country in a proper manner...while going through the requisite procedures that the law sets forth

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 07:21:

Hey UC At least I had something to say, instead of just sniping at others. punk. G5; you think that the response to what I wrote was any different then when you bash Colombia. What hypocrisy? get your head out of the clouds.
"While I recognize that there a lot of illegal Colombians here, %99 of them came here in a lawfull manner in the first place and they simply over stayed. OK, that was wrong too. But at least, they entered the country in a proper manner...while going through the requisite procedures that the law sets forth"
like I said head in the clouds. Yeah I was following the law this morning when I put my seat belt on, so it doesn't matter that I broke every traffic law on the way to work.

You know that right after I wrote that earlier comment on American culture. I read about Bush's idea to bring forth a constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage. He is really concerned with maintaining our culutre too. So whatever all of you say is meaningless, my comments were totally validated! ;) thanks for the input though.

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Albatross says on Jun 6, 2006, 07:49:

G5, Gringodiego Dismissing America's problems because "its worse somewhere else" is hardly patriotic. Yes, political corruption is far worse in Mexico and a host of other countries than it is in the U.S. So what ? The fact that Vicente Fox has done pretty much nada to reduce corruption in Mexico (or improve the economy, which incidentally, might help stem the tide of illegal border crossings) is absolutely NO excuse for U.S. politicians to pull the crap that they do.

Patriots do not compare their countries to the worst, but to the best.

And yes, Americans are basically charitable, we have to be because we can't depend on our government to do diddly. I forked over a few hundred $$$ to the Red Cross after Katrina, because it was obvious that FEMA couldn't find their ass with both hands. A few months later the news came out that the Red Cross was equally incompetent. So all I accomplished was to help fund some federal circle-jerk, while the city of New Orleans languished under-water.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Monpirri says on Jun 6, 2006, 08:00:

Albatross "Patriots do not compare their countries to the worst, but to the best" That is an awesome statement.
You understand that Mr.G5? Stop comparing colombia to your favorite country utopia land!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 6, 2006, 08:34:

Colombiche...Sorry for the delay...Been up to my Asspe .. in alligators trying to retire and get all the crap needed done...I will post later today...Didnt realize WW3 was underway!!!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 26 días...Colombia es pasión!

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 09:03:

johna
And johna....you might disagree with UC, but calling him a "Punk", surely gives everyone a good idea about what you are made of.

"Hey UC At least I had something to say, instead of just sniping at others. punk." (Johna)

Tinto: a little sanctioning for Mr. Johna might be in order. I know you can't catch all of them, but this violation was a flagrant one. I don't think Johna's calling UC a punk would even passi Kernow's rather liberal standard.

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Monpirri says on Jun 6, 2006, 09:25:

Hey G5 Don't mess around with Johna or I break your legs! Just kidding punk, I am just having a good time now! jajajaj

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 6, 2006, 09:38:

JohnA, Please review the rules. No name-calling or personal insults. As the site owner wrote: "attack the argument, not the person."

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Miguel says on Jun 6, 2006, 10:39:

Oye Pienso que johna es una mujer. Pueda ser equivocado, pero por lo menos, estoy de aquerdo con ella.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 13:17:

Mario I think you are correct, but it sounds like one really rough trip to go the Central America, Mexico route...dangerous as hell too

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 13:18:

Mario I think you are correct, but it sounds like one really rough trip to go the Central America, Mexico route...dangerous as hell too

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 14:57:

Thank you Tinto I will follow the rules. but what I was responding too was this:
"I guess that says more about you than anything else. Pretty much like some ignorant slob saying that all there is to Colombia is cocaine, drug dealers, guerillas, hookers, poverty, beauty contests, corruption and coffee."

I consider that a personal attack, and responded. Anyway I got your message and will refrain in the future.

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 15:04:

G5 And johna....you might disagree with UC, but calling him a "Punk", surely gives everyone a good idea about what you are made of.

"Hey UC At least I had something to say, instead of just sniping at others. punk." (Johna)

Tinto: a little sanctioning for Mr. Johna might be in order. I know you can't catch all of them, but this violation was a flagrant one. I don't think Johna's calling UC a punk would even passi Kernow's rather liberal standard."

Yes I do disagree that I am like an ignorant slob. so I called him a punk. What does it have to do with you. I notice that you didn't respond to my comment about your post you instead just whined to Tinto that I was attacking people personally, even though it wasn't you. Oh and don't talk about what I am made of, that could be considered a personal attack.

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 15:20:

Hey Johna....talking about disingenous apologies. I turn you in to Tinto. He sanctions you. Then you turn around and attack me for turing you in for violating the rules.....

I can see that's a real sincere apology. The guy tells you to chill. And then you turn around and tell me not to "get my panties in a bunch" as well as call me a whiner'

I guess you didn't get the message. If I were you, I would chill a bit. My next email will go to Peter and Tinto directly. Go have a chill out session and read the rules again........You might want to stick to words next time

"Anyway I got your message and will refrain in the future." (Johna)
yea sure.....you're comical.,....to say the least.

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 15:23:

I wasn't apologizing to you G5 and what I said does not constitute a personal attack. So I did stick to my word. I will take out the panty bit if it makes you feel better, I would hate to upset you. Go ahead and send an email to whoever you want, if that is how you want to spend your time.

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corazon en colombia says on Jun 6, 2006, 15:38:

Illegal Immigration I am writing this because I have a very different point of view due to my life experiences. I know many of these "illegal aliens" and formed valuable friendships with some. Some of them are much harder workers and stronger people than any of us could hope to be. They are strong because life has been difficult for them. They have suffered things I have not. I am an American citizen because I was born here. Lucky me, I have always had a roof over my head and an opportunity to receive an education and therefore have some tools to form a good life. I have not lived in extreme poverty and do not know what it is like to eat tortillas with salt for dinner (or go hungry) because there wasn't money for anything else. I have not lived in a shack by the river, that when it flooded took the few material possessions I owned. I have not shined shoes on the street or sold candy instead of going to school to help support my family. I have not had to risk my life, or be separated from the ones I love for extended periods of time in order to provide food for my family. I am not condoning illegal immigration, but I am saying before judging, try to imagine how the majority of the world lives. Most “illegals” (as you choose to call them, although I prefer undocumented workers) are here fighting for a chance in life. You can't make lemonade when life gives you contaminated, rotten lemons, or nothing at all. As to coming by legal means, if they could have, they would have!!! There is no visa that I know of for people that have a third grade education (or none at all) and not a penny in the bank. There is no legal way provided in our current system for them. Obviously our country couldn't sustain unlimited numbers of immigrants legal or illegal. Eventually the jobs available would fill up and if there were no jobs, maybe they would stop coming. These people that are working here, are also buying here: food, clothing, etc. They are contributing millions to our economy and many wish to be a permanent part of it and to make a posivive contribution to this society. We are depending on them to fill jobs that others would refuse to do. I do not claim the system we have is working! There is a definate need for change. We are all citizens of this earth. Can we not have a little compassion for our fellow human beings! Unless people can make a decent living wage in their own country they will keep trying to come – no matter what the cost! It is the natural instinct to survive that pushes them to search for something better. Only in a world of injustice can that be illegal. Tell me please, if you were in their shoes would you not do the same?

El mojado tiene ganas de secarse,
El mojado está mojado por las lágrimas que bota, la nostalgia,
El mojado, el indocumentado,
Carga el bulto que el legal no cargaría, ni obligado,

El suplicio de un papel lo ha convertido en fugitivo,
Y no es de aquí porque su nombre no aparece en los archivos,
Ni es de allá porque se fue.

P.S. Imagine if the Native Americans would have refused the settlers' visas. Just a thought.

Colombia = paradiso

Colombia = paradiso

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 17:31:

I am over it. Whatever G5 does is up to him. Personally I think that I did very little personal attacking, I did not question anyones character, or "what they are made of". I didn't refer to anyone as an ignorant slob. I did not call anyone "comical to say the least". I mainly stuck to the issues and stated my opinion, the punk thing is pretty minor in the scope of things. There are a lot worse words out there. I did not call anyone a whiner, I accused them of avoiding debate and whining (not being a whiner). You are a whiner is different then you are whining. So email away if that is what you want, I think it would be pretty petty though, and it may backfire. :)

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 6, 2006, 17:51:

johna....you're right about one thing Yes you are quite comical. I like the way you parse things with the whine, whiner and whining stuff. Kernow tried that too.

Naaa. No more emails. I already accomplished what I wanted. I caught your insult, I whined to Tinto, and he responded. No sense beating a dead horse.Speaking of beating a dead horse, I don't mean to whine anymore, but....I'm done with this thread. So I'll let you fire your last shot, but be assured, I will not see it, nor will I respond.

Hey, maybe Gringodiego can do it for you........fire away, but it will be like pissing in the wind since this thread has long outlived its usefullness. I can see it will only be a matter of time before Tinto pulls out the lock and shackles this one down. It probably should have been done already............out of here kiddies

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johna says on Jun 6, 2006, 17:57:

last word bye.

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