Time to get PERMANENT CEDULA EXTRANJERIA - RESIDENCE VISA

curramberochris says on Jul 12, 2007, 16:08:

You don´t want to piss off the old lady who works in the office there, she makes your life a living hell if she gets out of bed on the wrong side..............

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ELI1953 says on Jul 12, 2007, 16:17:

You dont want me to tell you, what I think of those people at that DAS office in barranquolla.
Am glad the little old is gone she use to drive me crazy everytime I when their. With computers and they still using the old royal typewriter.

LEATER NECK

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ELI1953 says on Jul 12, 2007, 16:17:

You dont want me to tell you, what I think of those people at that DAS office in barranquolla.
Am glad the little old is gone she use to drive me crazy everytime I when their. With computers and they still using the old royal typewriter.

LEATER NECK

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BAQ says on Jul 15, 2007, 10:13:

Yea, her name was BETTY, the bitch FINALLY retired. Got a new lady in her place who is nicer but they just dont know the law regarding times for Visas. The FIVE YEAR time period they are refering to is for NON FAMILY visas such as retirement, investment, business ect, just cant make them understand this is a HOGAR residency visa.

Semper Fidelis !

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chester says on Jul 17, 2007, 16:22:

try going back to the DAS building in Bogota. bit of a trip, but maybe they will give you the right cedula.

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robi666 (Trustee board) says on Jul 17, 2007, 19:15:

BAQ, you're asking to the wrong guys.
DAS won't give you a permanent cedula withouth first getting a residence VISA on your passport at MRE in Bogotà. So, why are you arguing with them?
You go to MRE, get your VISA and then your cedula. You'll be able to get a residence VISA after three years of spouse VISA.
By the way, investment VISA is a residence VISA directly first time.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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robi666 (Trustee board) says on Jul 17, 2007, 19:48:

Wait, could I be wrong? What's the clearance letter you need? Don't you need to present to MRE the same documents that you presented to renew the spouse visa. That's how they explained it to me last time: next time, instead of giving you two years, we'll give you a residence VISA.
Let's wait Gator come in...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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BAQ says on Jul 18, 2007, 15:25:

I have my CEDULA, have been here more than three years ect, thats not a problem. Before I fly to Bogota to get my permanent residency visa, I was told I needed a criminal records check from DAS showing I have been a good boy during the past three years and have not been terrorizing the countryside.

When I went to DAS, they told me I needed FIVE years of residency before I could get a PERMINANT RESIDENCE visa and they didnt want to give me the form I needed to request the records check and pay the fee, THANKS the problem.

Semper Fidelis !

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robi666 (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2007, 15:50:

I got that "certificado de antecedentes judiciales" from DAS here in Medellin. They didn't even ask why I wanted that (it was for a gun permit). So, what the fuck they want at DAS in Bquilla? One, they are not the one who have to decide if you are entitled to get a permanent residence visa. Second, if you need the certificado, they must do it and don't fucking care why, even if you just need it to clean your ass!

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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robi666 (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2007, 16:05:

BAQ, let them read...

Decreto 2004 4000

CAPITULO II

Visa de Residente Calificado

Artículo 51. El Grupo Interno de Trabajo que el Ministro de Relaciones Exteriores determine o las Oficinas Consulares de la República, previa autorización de aquel, podrán otorgar Visa de Residente Calificado al extranjero que haya sido titular de Visa Temporal durante cinco (5) años continuos e ininterrumpidos, que haya permanecido en el territorio nacional en forma regular, y presente la solicitud por lo menos dentro de los treinta (30) días calendario anteriores al vencimiento de la visa de la que sea titular, salvo fuerza mayor o caso fortuito debidamente comprobados.

A los titulares de Visa Temporal Cónyuge o Compañero(a) de Nacional Colombiano(a) y Temporal Padre o Madre de Nacional Colombiano de que tratan los artículos 33 y 34 del presente decreto, se les podrá expedir la Visa de Residente Calificado cuando hayan sido titulares de las mismas por un término continuo e ininterrumpido mínimo de tres (3) años.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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BAQ says on Jul 19, 2007, 08:13:

ROBI666, THANKS, THATS WHAT I NEEDED !!!

You have no idea how BAD the DAS office here is. There are not that many gringos living here and to some extent I dont think some of the folks working there in the DAS office like us being here cuz we actually make them WORK sometimes when we need something. I am not the only one who has had problems at the DAS office here. I have spoken to others who have experienced the same problems with lack of service, wrong information and just generally screwing with the americans. BE GLAD THE DAS OFFICE IN MEDELLIN IS MORE HELPFUL !

THANKS AGAIN. !!!!!!

Semper Fidelis !

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vicshere says on Jul 19, 2007, 08:38:

Baq...don't take it personally...as you should have learnt by now...many many government employees are not professional never having any kind of training..remember many people get their jobs through "palanca" which results in an uneducated bad employee...also many government employees are too lazy to find the right information for you.....remember many will just tell you something to get you off their backs...the sooner you leave their office the sooner they can get back to fucking around.....I have run across this many many times in my years here.....I thing GIB will agree whole heartily

listo

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robi666 (Trustee board) says on Jul 19, 2007, 10:11:

Vic, you may be right, but, believe me, Medellin and Barranquilla are two different planets.

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vicshere says on Jul 19, 2007, 11:15:

rob i encounter this "missinformation" eveywhere i go wehter it is bogoat bucaramanga or catragenea......i encounter it not only in govermenet office but stores and shopping malls...i havent figuered out if its poeple who are so egar to help and give the wrong or outof date information....or are they just dam stuipd......i can give an example if you go to any govermnment agency say in canada and you ask a question ...you willl most likely get bombared with a bunch of brouchuers on the questions....but usually you will have the correct answer plus backup written material......in colombia will might get an out of date photoscopy (which you have to pay for)

listo

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 19, 2007, 13:02:

BAQ says on Jul 19, 2007, 13:39:

With all due respect, the OBVIOUS is that they want you to bend over and take it up the A"" or get on your knees and start suckin and I wont go that for anyone, any time any place. I dont care if my attitude, as you call it, hairlips the Governor.

In truth, I have ALWAYS been very nice and polite to folks here and not just in the DAS office. This is a DAS problem, not an attitude problem on my part. It just ticks me that they not only want to work, but dont know their jobs.

On a side note, 2 or 3 years ago, President Aribe threatened to do away with DAS all together because they were so incomentant and corrupt.

Semper Fidelis !

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slashdave says on Jul 21, 2007, 08:15:

Well about the time you need it depends wehre you come from, if you are a citizen of a Hispanic country there are three years and you can achieve what you are asking for, if you are from a different country you must wait 4 or 5 years indeed. However, you are married to a colombian citizen, so just contact me and I can help you out with this thing.

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