Three americans thanked the colombian military

elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:14:

thank you!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Aaron21 says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:15:

No shit.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:17:

they should be thanking the french, they owe everyhting to france

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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Aaron21 says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:18:

Just ask any moderator!

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:27:

Viva those Gringos from the Good old USA ( no offense gringos)
Cheers

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:30:

They should thanks the French ;p afterall because of Ingrid all the other hostages were kept in the spotligh ;PP

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:38:

mi vida, ni que french ni que perro muerto.
them french modefoques have not fired another shot since they got chased outta DienBIen Fu in vietnam, circa late 50's.
If you need somene to rescue your ass, you better forget about them

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:43:

In a statement released late Friday by the U.S. Army, the men thanked their families, the Colombian military and the U.S. government, "who never forgot us."


in a statement Ingrid made she thanked her families, the Colombian military and the French government, "who never forgot about her."

what is the different here?

ok i will drop this subject, it is boring me to death, i know your opinions, you know mine :))



Elmo are you in NY or Barranquilla

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miamimike says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:43:

Medina met Stansell in April 2002 while working as a flight attendant on an Avianca flight. ??

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WTF is this Elmo??

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Aaron21 says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:49:

Kat...The fact that Ingrid made the statement does not make it true..lol... that is the difference.. she is a politician (prone to embellishment, nonsense, and outright lies) and those Americans were contractors fighting a quasi-war... Most rational people know on which side to err..

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:50:

you got a pic of that medina broad?

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:52:

damn gringos are taking all the colombian broads

Ive flown avianca hundreds of times and never met any broads, this gringo guy flies one time and BANG he nails a colombianita

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Aaron21 says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:53:

Haaaahaaaa!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 02:56:

y la preno tambien

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:05:

Yeah right the Gringos have a lot to thank Fringrid, excuse me Ingrid, for their release. Shame on them!!! That is really unforgivable. JIJIHAHAJOJO, joder!
Cheers

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:09:

mi reina, after september there will be only 26 barranquilleros living in USA.
My black ass is going back where it belongs.
come with me y te preno pa tene una pelaita de pura sangre costena.
una curramberita

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:18:

i learned that igrid went to live in france as an adult, how is she now more french than colombian.
chit i lived in NYC since i was 9 years old over 65 years ago and i still feel as colombian as the minute i was draged screaming and fighting to come here.
every time i read 'I OWE EVERTHING TO FRANCE" it makes my skin crawl.
You open your legs to a french guy all of the sudden your more french than colombia.
In that case i'm gonna give my ass to agringo, then i could call myself a real new yorker

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:27:

elmodefoque says on Jul 6 (today): flag

mi reina, after september there will be only 26 barranquilleros living in USA.
My black ass is going back where it belongs.
come with me y te preno pa tene una pelaita de pura sangre costena.
una curramberita


what a good offer eh/

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:39:

with no more ado about 'who said what', ...he said, she said, blah blah blah.. the real high point is that all 15 are free and home with their families. viva colombia

dwmte

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 03:40:

next negotiation, we can offer elmo for about 500 still held hostages.

dwmte

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Medellin Traveler says on Jul 6, 2008, 06:12:

Did Keith Stansell have to apply for a K1 visa for Patricia Medina?

Also, do the three Americans now have duo citizenship in Colombia?

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sloopskipper says on Jul 6, 2008, 06:17:

And if they were there more than 5 years must they pay income tax, on all income, to Colombia?

They probably overstayed their visas.

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aztec says on Jul 6, 2008, 06:18:

Those are good questions. I suspect they will have a mess on their hands before it is all worked out!

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sloopskipper says on Jul 6, 2008, 06:20:

Probably good they skipped out.

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sanandressi says on Jul 6, 2008, 08:24:

The yahoo article I read said Stansell had a fiancee in Georgia (GRINGA) when he met Medina on the flight to Panama. Previously married and two kids from that previous marriage too! Patricia Medina did not know this guy had a fiancee back in Georigia. The yahoo article says Stansell was mad when he found out that Medina was pregnant with those kids?

Patricia Medina sounds like a good woman and I wish her the best with her twins. From what I have read Stansall seems to have some issues........?

Yes, they are going to get special treatment for visas etc......such is life!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 08:54:

now i'm a little worried, has anyone seen the gringos after they landed in texas?
have they been kidnapped by the state dept?
WTF is up with that?
they should be doing larry king and david letterman by now

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 09:35:

their 'debriefing' will probably last several months if not more. they, being professional mercenaries...ex military....very serious soldiers, what they witnessed and observed will be very valuable info to the drug interdiction and intelligence community.

the fact that the lady with the twins was here almost immediately, is some small accomodation by the powers that be. if she was an avianca hostess, she already had a visa, and the boys are u.s. citizens born abroad. the guy kinda reminds me of that russian actor, dolfe lundgren (sp) extremely serious countenance, piercing eyes and chiseled features. the guy doesn't look like he's possessed of one gram of light hearted humor.

wish all these fellows all the best. like most professional soldiers, they'll probably want to get right back at it very soon. next time with even deeper conviction and really pissed off.

dwmte

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elmodefoque says on Jul 6, 2008, 09:42:

no need to return to work for them , ever.
first their company owes them 5 year pay. I'm sure they were pulling like 100 thousand a year. That's over 500 k's or half a million. Uncle sam keeps 200, now they have 300, chit that;s nothing, i guess is back to the jungles.
wait, i forgot, the books, tv movies, movies, speaking for a hefty fee all over USA, fok they gonna be filthy rich

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goin_south says on Jul 6, 2008, 09:49:

uhhhh... Modefoqu...... I think you 'owe everything' to the Good ol' USA ;-)

I'D RATHER BE.........IN COLOMBIA :-)).... (No Quiero Conozco Gustav)...(TEMPORARY NAME CHANGE: RUNNIN_NORTH! JEJE!!!)

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goin_south says on Jul 6, 2008, 09:50:

(hey, why aren't they showing the time here of the post anymore?
now, I gotta watch the sun?)

I'D RATHER BE.........IN COLOMBIA :-)).... (No Quiero Conozco Gustav)...(TEMPORARY NAME CHANGE: RUNNIN_NORTH! JEJE!!!)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 6, 2008, 10:22:

Medellin Traveler says on Jul 6 (today): flag

Did Keith Stansell have to apply for a K1 visa for Patricia Medina?

Also, do the three Americans now have duo citizenship in Colombia?

MT when my brother in law was released he was sent after a couple of days back to the USA my sister follow the week after, because she had to wait for the embassy to issued the American Passport for my nephew, my sister entered with her Colombian passport and she did all the paperwork while in the USA.

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:23:

I agree 250 million% with you guys, except of course, with Buggy and Kat1, who think we owe it all to France, Frickingrid, Sarkozy, Chavez et.al and that our USA friends who were captive in the jungle, were nothing but spies. Yeah right!!
Cheers

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:34:

"Spies"? jajaja

6 foot plus tall, pale white guy infiltrating the intricate social network of local pueblos to gain information for the US government. That would be like the US sending Shaquille O'Neal to Japan to spy.

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Catfish35 says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:39:

United States? No one ever heard about these MoFo's in the States when they were down there.
As I stated before about these guys. They were not innocent gringos waltzing down the street in Anywhere, Colombia feeding the poor and hungry. They were military connected guys engaged with flying over drug crops. What the hell do you think may to happen to you in this job?
I can bet you that they get a hefty pay check or reimbursement.
What will the others get? cept, Ingie and a run for the presidency again.

It is unfortunate that any of this has to happen, but it does, and when you sign up to mingle and dangle and earn the big bucks because your dingle may get wacked and it does, well....take it to your sponsor..

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:51:

carfish35 now that you are sober,:)))) jeje i also heard in the news that in the USA they didn't even know about them, that is why they are not famous and being rush to Larry King.

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 11:58:

Yes Kat, I guess that is the reason.
Cheers

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billyb says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:12:

The american military and intelligence community certainly knew who they were and never forgot them.

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MaFe says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:22:

Aaron21 says on Jul 6 (today): flag

Kat...The fact that Ingrid made the statement does not make it true..lol... that is the difference.. she is a politician (prone to embellishment, nonsense, and outright lies) and those Americans were contractors fighting a quasi-war... Most rational people know on which side to err..

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Aaron...I like the way you think!

Huskie..Billy I have to agree with you guys too!

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bigtexas1974 says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:39:

"The american military and intelligence community certainly knew who they were and never forgot them."

Absolutely correct! I highly doubt that our intelligence agencies ever forgot them, and don't forget that the U.S. played a huge role in both tracking the hostages and providing information critical to the organization of the release,no matter what circumstance in which it happened.

Although we don't negotiate with Terrorists, I have no doubt that we didn't keep the "eyes in the skies" focused on our boys with the intent of getting them back one day!

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huskie says on Jul 6, 2008, 14:20:

HERE HERE Texas!! People just say the darnest things, no idea what they are talking about!!
Cheers

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Catfish35 says on Jul 6, 2008, 17:13:

"THEY" never forgot about us...In my opinion are in two different contexts...In Ingies case "they" were the people AND the government. For whatever "THEY" did for her "THEY" did a helluva lot more than "THEY" did for the 3 mericans. I will concede that the almighty US military dilly dallied into the whereabouts...butt, I think we are talking that the "THEY" never forgot about us are the people of the countries, be it France, Colombia, or USA...
So yes, I still believe americans never even knew or remembered that "THEY" had 3 people in the jungle of Colombia..

"So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade

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Catfish35 says on Jul 6, 2008, 17:14:

And KAT 1 thank you my dear for your congrats and your support on my sobriety....jeje

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droble77 says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:01:

Well I'm not sure about the U.S. govt. but from what I've read, their employer Northrop truly never did forget about them. They probably would have paid a ransom to free them, but obviously, the U.S. govt. and probably the Colombian too would have forbidden that.

As for the Ingrid statements, not sure what the big deal is. She's just saying what the French would expect her to say, after all, this is what politicians do, even Uribe. . . ;-))

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dwmte7 says on Jul 6, 2008, 19:26:

apparently, they didn't work for grumman directly, but for some dept of defense sub contractor. hmmmm sounds a bit suspecious. and i don't believe for a minute that they were forgotten, and that no ransom was paid. that's all hollywood talk that we don't communicate with terrorists and don't pay ransoms. good LORD, we live in the world and that's how the world turns. we just don't publish it on the front page of the times or spell it out on cnn. just the opposite.

dwmte

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sanandressi says on Jul 6, 2008, 20:44:

The way I understand it they were in a small Cessna looking for coco fields and or laboratories. I would imagine the plane had some sort of cameras and other sorts of logistic equipment to map and give exact positions for those crop dusters that come along later. I read where they were in direct communication with the Embassy when the plane went down due to engine failure or a Farc bullet or two. If it was a single engine aircraft, I am kind of surprised they would send a single engine plane with 5 aboard as the pilot and a Colombian were killed.

There was an article somewhere about some Gringos doing the same at the airport in Tumaco. They keep a pretty low profile.

Washington seems to play these games in the most discreet way possible in my opinion. Look at the Embassy in Bogota itself. Colombian gurads, Colombian employees, and window tinted vans and vehiocles enter from that one side. I have been told that the actual embassy is below the ground and is the most beautiful thing you can imagine with a tunnel that goes to Bogota's airport for a quick escape if the FARC ever did take control. I don't know if this is true or not?

Washington seems to keep as much of what they do as quiet as possible and especially with big mouths Chavez and Correa these days ready to pounce on anything.

Colombia is saying that Washington had little to do with this but I am not buying it for a second. The Reyes raid in Ecuador as well.

The Colombian military admits that the US military has helped them immensly in the last 10 years. Does Colombia have cell phone intercepting technology and spy satellites from outer space? I don't think so.

The 3 gringos...don't Americans pay less taxes when working overseas?

Most Americans had no clue these guys were kidnapped. If it had been a JOURNALIST it would have been all over the news every day!

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 6, 2008, 22:29:

That would be one hell of a long tunnel.

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Lcacique says on Jul 6, 2008, 23:45:

Aaron: What makes contractors so angelic?

huskie: "I agree 250 million% with you guys, except of course, with Buggy and Kat1, who think we owe it all to France, Frickingrid, Sarkozy, Chavez et.al and that our USA friends who were captive in the jungle, were nothing but spies. Yeah right!!"

I do not think that kat1 ever said you or anybody else on this site owed anything to any of the people you listed.

And Ingrid, as has been stated continuously, also said she owed her life to the Colombian military. But it is convenient to ignore that.

A lot of people suffering from monochromatism these days.

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Aaron21 says on Jul 7, 2008, 00:25:

Lcacique, you shouldn't contradict your own edicts - especially in the same post. I did not say contractors were angelic. I said politicians are prone to embellishment, nonsense and outright lies and I drew a conclusion from that. Please be accurate and consistent.

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Lcacique says on Jul 7, 2008, 11:28:

It was meant as a question not an accusation, Aaron. Nevertheless, you are right. I implied that you felt that the contractors were angelic. Of course, reading your comment you seem to be making a comparison between politicians and contractors and one is painted negatively and it appears that you are suggesting, at the very least, that the other does not suffer from these same negative characteristics. So, yes. I guess I could have reworded my question slightly.

I wholeheartedly agree that many politicians (because of their line of work) are prone to the qualities that you listed. However, I do not think that those qualities are unique to politicians. And the fact that the contractors were fighting a quasi-war does not somehow provide any evidence that would allow me to assume that they are more trustworthy.


sanandressi: Does Colombia have cell phone intercepting technology? Yes, I believe they probably do. They have purchased a lot of surveillance equipment from the US over the years. We have given the country billions of dollars (pre-Plan Colombia Plan Colombia the Andean Initiative) to enable the country to carry out such activities.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 7, 2008, 13:28:

one thing they aint got, is eyes 200 miles up in the sky that can tell if you cleaned your fingernails this morning. but we do. and it's arch evident that this technology has been on loan recently.

dwmte

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 7, 2008, 14:00:

SanAndressi, for visuals of the US Embassy in Bogota just rent "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory." The Embassy Compound is an identical copy of Wonka's factory right down to the Oompa Loompas. There is no underground tunnel to the airport since it isn't needed: a Chocolate river whisks anyone to safety who needs help. Everything, right down to the visa applications, is edible.

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Monpirri says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:07:

Is it true a colombian girl is going out with one of the americans?

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Monpirri says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:09:

Never mind, I found the answer. They met in April, 2002 while she was working as a flight attendant on an Avianca flight.

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