They just murdered a muchacho in front of Consumo like 15 minutes ago

baby jesus!! says on May 19, 2009, 12:16:

and?
you are not in kansas anymore toto!
where is utc with the reality check?

Too many gringos messing with lower estrato chicas. The cultural differences are way too huge -- These same gringos wouldn't mess with some project living mami or trailer trash back home in the States... WHY O WHY do it in Colombia?!?!!?-rhydewithdis

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 12:20:

Some guy got his head blown off at the entrance to Beverly Center in LA today, but I guess that isn't Kansas either.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

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kenblanquito says on May 19, 2009, 12:21:

If it is the Consumo La 80 with San Juan in Medellin, I go there every few days!

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 12:22:

CG.....one less rapper taking up vital air! jajajaj..

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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tasco66 says on May 19, 2009, 12:26:

I was just at the Beverly Center mall in LA where a rapper was murdered waiting for his car at the valet parking….not a pretty sight

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1611675/20090519/dolla.jhtml

It seems you can't go to an LA mall anymore without seeing someone get shot at

Newsweek on Uribe: "he's delivered the trifecta of peace, security, and prosperity"

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 12:27:

I was responding to Baby Jesus.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

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durito2 says on May 19, 2009, 12:28:

That consumo is in Belen, no?

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kenblanquito says on May 19, 2009, 12:31:

Just the point elSapo!
I could talk about rising knife crime in London but I do not because we are talking about Colombia.
Thanks spigrimace for posting that: it may prevent me from being the next one and I shall be extra careful now!

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durito2 says on May 19, 2009, 12:34:

I'm pretty sure people have always been murdered in Poblado and Laureles.

"Thanks spigrimace for posting that: it may prevent me from being the next one and I shall be extra careful now!"

How is that going to prevent you from being murdered in a professional hit? Gonna stop shopping at consumo?

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coastalad says on May 19, 2009, 12:34:

glad i was there in the morning instead.....

always avoiding white picket fences

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Satan says on May 19, 2009, 12:35:

"Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 12:22 (today): flag
CG.....one less rapper taking up vital air! jajajaj.."

So MC, you think it's funny a guy who happens to be a talented artist gets killed? You are one sick MF! I hope everyone here laughs at your sorry ass when one of your clients boyfriends whacks your stupid insensitive ass. What a real great human being you are... your mother would be proud!

Nata S.

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spigrimace says on May 19, 2009, 12:39:

actually this happened a stone´s throw from UTC´s old digs. and? Jesus, I havent been in Kansas or the USA in amost 5 years. I have been in Belen, Medellin and would dare to say I have ventured deeper into the non strata 5 or above society more than most and the reality check is I am getting more unnerved as things have gotten a lot hotter over the last month in Belen. Where we would have a hit in Belen every 6 months or so (usually in Violetas or Rincon way in the back like behind bus depots late at night), now it is like every 6 days and it is starting to hit closer to major arteries like the 76 or la 80 and now with brashness to do it in front of like 50 witnesses at the entrance of a busy supermarket during lunch hour. I feel safe because these hits are usually meant for someone for a reason, but I dont want to be an innocent casualty either. Sorry I wasnt here for the 80s to early 90s glory so i could have had a reality check but I was only 14 or so then back in Kansas collecting baseball cards.

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Fence231 says on May 19, 2009, 12:49:

BJ I'm pretty sure ole' Spigrimace has seen and done things you only read about. Cut him a break, it is actually pretty useful info considering the logistics of the hit.

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whitewidow says on May 19, 2009, 13:13:

damn. sorry to hear the newz, guys. this sucks for medellin, but everyone knew it was only a matter of time and this rash of violence has been in the making for the last year or two.

Looking for love....

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Megatron says on May 19, 2009, 13:17:

3 weeks ago down the block from the UPB (Laureles) a man in his 50’s in the process of parking his car got shot in the head by SECARIO. I heard the victim was the owner of a Pharmacy in Saint Lucas. Sad Shit!

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kenblanquito says on May 19, 2009, 13:31:

durito2
The poster wrote this for a reason and your comment was not necessary; just ignore it if you do not want to make at least a constructive comment or show a bit of sympathy for the victim.
One can be more careful or alert to situations if one remains aware, improves ones chances anyway. I know that nobody is totally immune though.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 13:36:

En pasos buenos no andaria, porque para que le den a uno dos tiros asi porque asi, es que algo debia.

♥

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kenblanquito says on May 19, 2009, 13:48:

With these increases in murder statistics, has anybody here noticed an increased police presence? I am not talking about what the government or alcaldia are saying, I am more interested in what they are DOING!
Personally, I have noticed a few more police in the centre of Medellin but in Laureles, Floresta, Velodromo and Estadio nothing obvious!

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 13:50:

Satan says on May 19, 2009, 12:35 (today): flag

"Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 12:22 (today): flag
CG.....one less rapper taking up vital air! jajajaj.."

So MC, you think it's funny a guy who happens to be a talented artist gets killed? You are one sick MF! I hope everyone here laughs at your sorry ass when one of your clients boyfriends whacks your stupid insensitive ass. What a real great human being you are... your mother would be proud!


jjajaja...do the words "blowme" mean anything to you?..talented rapper? no such thing....play with fire you get burned....of all people, you should know that, right, Satan?...but too bad, in my world, rappers dont mean much....too bad, too sad, sucks to be him!!!!!!!!!!!....dont like what i post, put it where the sun dont shine...like in Hell....jajajajja....retard

besides, when i am dead, you think i give a flying fok what people on PBH think of me? NOT!!!....

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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el norteño says on May 19, 2009, 14:04:

I've been in that supermarket, and stood in front of it waiting for a bus several times.
It's not going to stop me going to that part of Medellin my next visit.

Burglaries have increased 150% in my quaint little New England town the past year.
Deal with it, or check into the nearest monastery.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 14:15:

"En pasos buenos no andaria, porque para que le den a uno dos tiros asi porque asi, es que algo debia."

Eso no siempre es el caso. Los sicarios matan al que sea.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

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kat1 (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 14:29:

Si CG pero siempre hay una deuda. ellos no matan por matar, algo la victima le debe a alguien o hizo un negocio sucio

♥

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 14:31:

La gente manda a matar por cualquier motivo, no solo dinero o negocios sucios. Puede ser por celos, envidia o cualquier otra razón que no necesariamente es culpa de la victima.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

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el norteño says on May 19, 2009, 14:32:

No. No contract killings in my quaint, little New England town last week.

But, last fall, the body of a 16 year old student was found shot and partially burned in a pit in the woods.
It turns out he was one of the largest drug dealers in the area, and the murderers were his 20 year old cousin and 13 year old brother. Shit happens everywhere.

When I am in Colombia I take certain measures to lower the probability of my becoming a crime victim.
I'm not going to stop traveling there.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 14:38:

NO one knows the motive in this specific killing..all they know is someone is not breathing anymore...so everyone throw out their theories so we can argue over who is right and who is wrong......Ding! Let the contest begin!!!!

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on May 19, 2009, 14:42:

Miguel, In the case of this particular murder, any theory about the reasons for it would be pure conjecture. However, to suggest that anyone murdered by a sicario had it coming is just wrong. People contract hits for all kinds of reasons.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

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Cerealkiller says on May 19, 2009, 14:48:

"Eso no siempre es el caso. Los sicarios matan al que sea."

No solo los sicarios, casos se han visto...
Tener una "deuda" en colombia es uno de eso terminos abiertos a la interpretacion. El tipo pudo simplemente haberle mirado las tetas a la moza de un mafioso, o se nego a vender algo que otro queria... o a lo mejor alguna persona de su familia estaba metida en malos negocios. Francamente me parece de quinta justificar el asesinato de una persona asi tan casualmente. En Colombia han matado gente solo porque es pobre, si eso es tener una deuda ya estamos hablando de otra cosa no?

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 14:48:

yes, you are right CG.....no one knows at his point...fact is someone is tits up right now....(assuming the OP is correct)....and noone knows why he was killed, and if by assassin, the victim may or may not have deserved it.....not all sicario victims were dirty....and being dirty depends on who is paying the guy...i am sure the victim would tell a different side to the story, if he could.....

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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coastalad says on May 19, 2009, 14:49:

I am about to go past consumo now.... should I get out my detective hat?? what answers do we want?

always avoiding white picket fences

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durito2 says on May 19, 2009, 14:53:

They kill the "wrong" person sometimes too.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 14:53:

Take a Statement from the Victim if you would.....=)

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 14:56:

jajajajajjajajaja.....TFF

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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paisa29 says on May 19, 2009, 15:06:

hmmm... esto ya parece una nueva versión on-line de la chiva.

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 15:12:

Maybe he was kidnapped in the US???? I am sooooo happy i live in Colombia.....

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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dwmte7 says on May 19, 2009, 15:48:

one thing for certain....you can get real dead, real quick in medallo.....anywhere, anytime.

patriarch

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dwmte7 says on May 19, 2009, 15:50:

heh miguel....why you bein such a tough ass this evening? sit down, i'll buy you a drink.

patriarch

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 15:52:

never heard of San Miguel de Arcangel, Doug??? Satan is my archenemy.....jajajjajaja

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 15:53:

besides, I am a lover, not a fighter, Doug.......the kinder and gentler Miguel Clavo everyone has grown to love...jajjajajajjajaa

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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pablo says on May 19, 2009, 16:16:

dwmte7 says, "heh miguel....why you bein such a tough ass this evening?"

Porque Barney Fife no ha tenido cualquiera.

ʇı dןǝɥ ʇou ןןıʍ sıɥʇ ǝʞıן ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ɹnoʎ ƃuıpןoɥ

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 19, 2009, 17:15:

you can blowme too paul..oh , sorry...BeanKing....jajajja....bobo...bribing the wrong DAS guy....typical pasty...jajajaj

"So Many PBH Potatoheads.......So Little Time"......El Titiritero (The Puppeteer).....www.slapdoll.com

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makopp5 says on May 19, 2009, 17:17:

That things didn´t happen just like that. Over 90% of death is because a reason.

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miamimike says on May 19, 2009, 17:42:

Makopp5 says "Over 90% of death is because a reason."
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Makopp5--I would say 100% of the Deaths are because of some reason,,,some for strange, violent and unnatural reasons, moreso then others..

"You can take the Banana Out of the Republic but you Cannot take the Republic Out Of The Banana"

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utopiacowboy says on May 19, 2009, 19:16:

The response is always, "Shit happens everywhere." Sure it does but there happens to be a lot more "shit" happening in Colombia than most places.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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RAAAY says on May 19, 2009, 20:23:

Bryon and UTC

Very often the response is " shit happens everywhere "..............The reason for this is because that is exactly the way soceity is. I don't quite understand why you lads keep harping on and on and on about violence in Colombia, as if it is something new.

Now, you even attempt to silence balanced comment by wondering why people compare the violence in Colombia to elsewhere. It is compared, because comparisons are relevent. We all read and hear about violence every day of the week. Do I think we should not hear about it in Colombia. Hell no. Posts like this, serve to remind us that everyone should take care. Posts like this, remind us that as we are in a foreign country, we stand out a little bit differently.

For that reason we should always be aware of our surroundings. But don't lose sight of the reality. The reason we draw comparisons, is because we all know too well the levels of violence in the US. So, there is no need to get bent out of shape about the type of violence in Colombia. It really is no different to anywhere else, in so many ways. Look for trouble and you will find it, be it in the US or in Colombia. Your feeble attempt to quell some folks pointing out some realism is laughable.

It is sad to hear of any loss of life. The guy outside the supermarket ! But it doesn't really touch us.

A man was shot and killed outside the House of Blues in Chicago on Saturday morning. Right outside, in a packed street.
More than 3 dozen schoolkids in the Chicago public school system have been murdered since January. 3 fookin dozen schoolkids. There IS shit everywhere..............get over it. For the avarage " Joe soap ", Colombia may very well be safer than anywhere else.


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It's useless to argue with ignorance...

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RAAAY says on May 19, 2009, 20:28:

ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 19, 2009, 14:42 (today): flag

............." People contract hits for all kinds of reasons."


CG..........This is so true.



Where you the MOD that sent me off to solitary confinment last week.


.hmmmmm

It's useless to argue with ignorance...

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RAAAY says on May 19, 2009, 20:35:

whatever you say Medo................Now, be off with you, back to your sleezy gay Turkish baths.


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It's useless to argue with ignorance...

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RAAAY says on May 19, 2009, 20:40:

Medo...........if you ever make it to Medellin, promise me you will spend a bit of quality time hanging outside the Consuma on 80.

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It's useless to argue with ignorance...

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RAAAY says on May 19, 2009, 20:45:

Who found it funny......??

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It's useless to argue with ignorance...

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webmanco says on May 20, 2009, 05:43:

I would blame the Farc that would help Uribe´s re-election

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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davidslc46 says on May 20, 2009, 05:52:

johnny2008 says on May 19, 2009, 20:35: flag

Why do people get all sulky when someone gets a bullet in the head? I mean you are going to die someday one way or another, I for one don't have anything planned for next week that cannot be cancelled.


This is how you must try to live in Colombia. None of us are immune to fear and it works its way into our lives whether we wish it or not. But that has been true all our lives I feel if we are honest and lived average lives. You get to opportunity to live your life fully today knowing there is no guarantee that tomorrow will come. For me Colombia offers a chance to grow towards that place where I can say ; today would be a good day to die.

I say this knowing I want to live another 40 years.


David

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davidslc46 says on May 20, 2009, 06:44:

Johnny,

I liked your perspective, even more after you wrote what you wrote this AM.

David

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dwmte7 says on May 20, 2009, 09:26:

makoff....of course there's always a reason people get killed.....they're suppossed to be dead.

patriarch

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