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These people try to rent at terrible prices on PBH

I cannot believe a Colombian would ever pay these prices shown on PBH.

By bamapits on Jan 29, 2008, 15:38 in Renting, selling & meetups.

Cheers Terry says on Jan 29, 2008, 15:54:

You're stating the obvious, aren't you?...

Cheers,
Terry

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arthur brode says on Jan 29, 2008, 15:56:

if you dont like the rates stay at a Hotel lol
thats because most Colombians dont need to rent a short term furnished apartment with everything included duh!

http://www.calirentals.net/

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juli says on Jan 29, 2008, 16:00:

Yes a great business. Buy a place, at a Colombian price of course, furnish to gringo standards, and then rent out a slightly lower than hotel rates to gringo sex tourists. I think it's a great idea. I don't know why more don't do this - the hotel business is awesome.

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tomtom33 says on Jan 29, 2008, 16:39:

Actually my apartment in Cartagena rents to Colombian families as well as gringo sex tourists. The prices are the same. Generally it is the Colombians who pay 2 and 3 times the normal rate for high seasons.

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robi666 says on Jan 29, 2008, 16:42:

same here

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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durito says on Jan 29, 2008, 16:43:

They are market prices. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that it costs quite a bit more to rent a furnished apartment for 3 weeks than it would to rent it unfurnished for a year. It's like that everywhere in the world.

Here's a colombian agency with similar prices that clearly isn't targeting gringos
http://www.apartamentos-amoblados.com/index.php

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robi666 says on Jan 29, 2008, 16:53:

I haven't seen those terrible prices on PBH. But that's something about people's mind to think that.

Do you want to know how much a 60 m2 furnished nice apartment goes rented out at El Rodadero for Xmas or Semana Santa? It is 300K per day. Surely it is just Colombian renting it.
Posting an advice for that apartment on here, I would get eaten up.

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arthur brode says on Jan 29, 2008, 17:34:

Wow! nice place you have there,Pepe

http://www.calirentals.net/

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Enrique187 says on Jan 29, 2008, 17:54:

that penthouse is awesome.

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Lisa Zee says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:07:

That is very nice Pepe!. This is for the "richandhappy". I know of a house in San Andres by San Luis and it is also $1k.

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:26:

"Nice place, but you're still a thief"

you must have a very strange definition of 'thief'.

I don't see you buying apartments and renting them out cheap...why not?

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:33:

oh right, I forgot, "all property is theft"

if you really are a person who does not believe in the right to own property and do what you want with it, might I suggest cuba as the place for you? last I heard colombia was not yet communist.

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billyb says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:40:

Wait a second, do you mean to tell me charity is supposed to be with our your money????

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:41:

if I won millions I'd keep it all, maybe give some to some close family members, and use it to build a business (probably buying and renovating apts) which would employ people and create wealth, maybe doubling or tripling the original amount over 5 or 10 years.

I'd keep doing that until I died, leaving all of it to a charity or person who would continue in the same vein.

Seems a little more useful than buying a bunch of people food for a day. But guess it doesn't make me sound like I'm trying to be a saint : )

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tejasmarcos says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:41:

uh oh - here we go........

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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juli says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:42:

The quote is not yours but it directed at you, Mario. Read the whole thing again Mr NMG.

What is NMG?

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:43:

well since you seem to be unable to define 'theft', but accuse someone of it because they rent their place to people without any force or fraud involved, I can only surmise...

so...your definition is????

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billyb says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:48:

N o
M oney
G uy?

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:48:

if it helps, I'll give you my definition:

theft is taking something of value that does not belong to you by the use of force or fraud.

It's not complicated, seems crystal clear to me. I still don't see what your definition could possibly be that would make a person who sells a service/product in a free, voluntary exchange a thief?

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:54:

big difference between saying someone charges a lot, too much, is overpriced, vs being a thief

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billyb says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:54:

N ot
M y
G ame

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:58:

jaja I am definitely as anal as they come

maybe I've been in too many political/philosphy debates here lately

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houstongal says on Jan 29, 2008, 18:59:

I can vouch for Pod's anal nature. You're as bad as I am!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:01:

I sometimes relax after 2 bottles of wine

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houstongal says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:02:

Hey Mario...what's up? Why so bitter today? Bad day at work? I hear it was warm in Houston...you should be grateful you're not in central Illinois where it is 10 with howling wind and snow!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:02:

Not
Much
Going on

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billyb says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:04:

Need
My
Grapes

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:04:

N ews:
M ario
G oofed!

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podborski says on Jan 29, 2008, 19:06:

N o
M ore
G uys

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Lisa Zee says on Jan 29, 2008, 20:38:

jajajajajajaja!

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Bam Bam says on Jan 29, 2008, 21:54:

"If I won the MegaMillions lottery, I'd give 85% of it to the poor in Colombia, through various programs. The other 15% would go to my children (13%) and 2% to me."

Mario you are so full of shit. When that money hit your hands you would be singing a different tune.

Since were on the subject-
Giving away money to poor people does not help anything. The money has to go somewhere where it will help people get out of the mess, not just feed them for a week. Rich people don't give a bag of money to a poor person and say "use it for college"...because that person will just go buy something dumb with it. Those people set up scholarships for people who will actually use the money for college and make something of it. Our friend above started a business and employs people, which creates wealth, not disburses and dilutes it until it vanishes. A lot of programs for poor people just use up money...the money doesn't really go anywhere it gets used up and then they need more money.

Juli - you shouldn't be so bitter about sex tourists. Every post I read you take it upon yourself to bash the old gringo with some bitter rant. But these guys are supporting a lot of people in Colombia. Without these old crusty farts, how are the girls gonna make a living? Who is going to rent the apartments? Who is going to eat at the local restaurants and bars? FOR GOD SAKES WHO WILL YOU HAVE TO MAKE FUN OF?!??!!?!
I saw a documentary on Colombia last week (la sierra), and this girl was selling candy on buses making $5 a week because thats all she could do. She became a bar girl and now can support herself. I don't think she is hating on gringos very much.

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tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 01:39:

"I single handily(sic) improved Laguito when I built the place. Before my penthouse there just were no places up to gringo standards. I should get a metal(sic) from the tourism board."

Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back, Pepe, remember that my apartment and Juan's were up to Gringo standards in the same building as your penthouse before you even bought your penthouse. And then Bill's 2 apartments in Torre Marina across the street were finished before you even set foot in Laguito.

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robi666 says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:15:

What's Gringo standards?

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tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:22:

Very good question. Robi. It may mean things like hot water and air conditioning and maybe pipes and windows that don't leak. It could also mean cupboards that are not made of pressed wood, sturdy furniture, room safes, Internet access, and decent dishes/silverware.

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robi666 says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:26:

Up early, eh Tom?
I would like to find a gringo standard breakfast bar in Medellin. I mean a good Cappuccino and a decent world class croissant with real cream or marmelade... Or maybe it is just italian standard... :-)

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tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 03:51:

Yup, I am normally up by 5:00. Got up at 4:00 today, leaving for CTG.

I am addicted to fruit salads for breakfast. Frutiplus at Home Center has the best I have had so far.

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robi666 says on Jan 30, 2008, 04:15:

Home Center of San Juan, right?

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tomtom33 says on Jan 30, 2008, 05:33:

Yes, I live about 4 blocks from the San Juan Home Center. However, the new house is about 30 blocks away. Guess I need a new favorite place.

Yessir, GIB. The good times are always followed by the bad times. I just try to spread my risks around. If the world goes to hell, I'm going with it anyway.

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morphus says on Jan 30, 2008, 06:49:

Stay in Colombia for free:

http://globalfreeloaders.com/memberlocations.php?country=colombia&code...

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Frank Rizzo says on Jan 30, 2008, 07:10:

Nice place Pepe... very clean and I like the open kitchen, no doubt you took out several walls to get the open look..... good job on the remodel. Sfera hardware for the skinks, nice.

Also, like the tired roof in the living room with the drop down projection screen.

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El Polo says on Jan 30, 2008, 07:21:

http://globalfreeloaders.com/memberlocations.php?country=colombia&code....

"Rather than spend money on Colombia hotels, hostels or backpacker accommodation, take advantage of GlobalFreeloaders hospitality by staying with a fellow member for free! Not only do you get to save money - you also get to see Colombia from a local's perspective!"

JORGE CONEJO is that you?

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aztec says on Jan 30, 2008, 07:21:

As a capitalist, I believe supply and demand should determine the price of a commodity. The pricing mechanism is the lubricant making the system work.

It appears PepeA's operation is an excellent example of what occurs in a free economy.

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juli says on Jan 30, 2008, 07:48:

Thanks Aztec - simple economics 101. If you don't like it don't pay it. Simple, Huh? People vote with their feet. A thief is someone who takes advantage using trickery or falsehoods or takes something underhandedly. You know what the price is - take it or leave it.

"Juli - you shouldn't be so bitter about sex tourists. Every post I read you take it upon yourself to bash the old gringo with some bitter rant. But these guys are supporting a lot of people in Colombia. Without these old crusty farts, how are the girls gonna make a living? Who is going to rent the apartments? Who is going to eat at the local restaurants and bars? FOR GOD SAKES WHO WILL YOU HAVE TO MAKE FUN OF?!??!!?!" Bam Bam

Feel free to use my first post here as a spring board for your comedy. I don't hate the gringo sex tourists - they bring money here. Re-read my initial post in this thread.

For the record the gringo and the girl all know what they are getting into and are consenting adults. Both fulfill a need for the other. Whatever their illusions, it's their business.

El amor es ciego - pero los vecinos no.

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podborski says on Jan 30, 2008, 08:24:

Mario says: "life isn't all about money. Enough said."

so why are you complaining in this post and another one you started about money?

Why is that people who claim money is not important always want some of mine, without doing anything for it?

The same ones always claim they are being ripped off by high prices, yet they never seem to be able to start a competing business, despite the 'obscene' profits business owners are making.

Something doesn't add up, and some people know what it is, and some will continue not getting it.

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Medellin Traveler says on Jan 30, 2008, 12:17:

"El amor es ciego - pero los vecinos no." juli

:O) priceless!

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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arthur brode says on Jan 30, 2008, 17:08:

Hey Frankie,

When your place is finished its going to be the real "Cali Penthouse"

http://www.calirentals.net/

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chrispej says on Jan 30, 2008, 17:37:

Well said, PepeA

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Bam Bam says on Jan 31, 2008, 00:52:

"Bam Bam - noobs like you you don't know me from Adam, and life isn't all about money. Enough said."

You're absolutely right Mario. But that doesn't mean you give all of your money away. I am going to stand by my earlier statement.

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McGringo says on Jan 31, 2008, 09:25:

Does PepeA give NMG discounts?

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Lisa Zee says on Jan 31, 2008, 10:15:

WOW PEPE!!!!, you have done a remarkable job with the one in Medellin and this one in Cartagena, and the hot tub story is unavailable!!!.
That is some view from that terrace, what a great idea siting in that tub watching the sunset., very impressive, congratulations!. LISA

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Lostgringo says on Feb 1, 2008, 07:41:

What a great place PepeA when I go back to Colombia with all the money I make here in the Philippines I may want to rent your place for a few hours. Do you have short time rentals? Honestly though your place looks fantastic and if I could afford to rent I sure would.

If gringos or the like do not want to rent your place they are free to go elsewhere. That's what they do int their own country. Not everyone can stay at the Hilton but those who can can. That's just the way it is. Allot of people think that because Colombia is a "3rd World" country they can get everything cheap. I mean try and buy a car or join a good gym in Colombia. Not everything is cheap in Colombia. That's just he way it is.

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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Grongo says on Feb 1, 2008, 07:45:

Few hours? Yeah, trash the place and leave.

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gringoloid says on Feb 1, 2008, 09:24:

I just stayed for a week at the La Casa Medellin and everything was great; including the price. It's in a nice, safe area with plenty of green grass and trees.

Pepes staff was more than helpful and spoke english.

Pepe went above and beyond the call of duty and as a person with back problems the bed in my room was perfect.

I would recommend staying here and I''ll be returning in a couple of months.

Who are the three blind men?

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robi666 says on Feb 1, 2008, 09:30:

I agree about Casa Medellin. Nice, well equipped place, safe and at a good price.

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Lostgringo says on Feb 2, 2008, 21:53:

Grongo I was joking about short term stays guys get with their girlfriends. It was was only meant as a joke because I cannot afford his prices. If I could afford them, I would rent the place. You can't take money with you the grave and sure as the hell can have a good time here on planet earth before you leave it. Anyone who would trash a nice place like that need a good tune up.

Your Home Away from Home www.welovebogota.com and www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartments and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy! 24/7 hour security.

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