The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what?

Peter (Moderator) says on Mar 22, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? (Written by CIA Conspiracy Unocovered)

What makes you so sure that these incidents were so called "friendly fire"?

After all, if I were an American general looking to divert attention away from the Iraqi death toll murdering a few British pilots and soldiers would be a sensible tactic.

Obviously, Tony Blair and George Bush agreed in advance how many such "friendly fire" incidents should take place. Trust me: there will be more such "accidents" in the days ahead.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Mar 22, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? (Written by MJ)
Friendly fire causalties are always a risk no matter how well trained the forces, especially when waging a complex, high tech war on many fronts. Technology can malfunction, enemy troops and friendlies can be fighting at such close range that tragic mistakes are made when air support is called in. Decisons to take action or not take action in a particular life or death circumstance have to occur in a split second. These decisions made under extreme pressure in the chaos of the warzone. Soldiers do the best they can in these situations.

Your question clearly demonstrates your lack of understanding of military operations and the stresses and risks involved.

I offer my sincere condolences to the family and friends of all coalition soldiers who have been killed in the war with Iraq. And again, I hope for minimal loss of life among our coalition troops as well as innocent noncombatants.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Mar 31, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? (Written by Larissa)
ok listen here you dont now what your talking about us americans are not clowns once so ever... And you all should not be talking about the U.S. Army like that ooh and just because more british were killed dont mean anything.. yeah and that probally was an accident... But see this is the thing none of us will never now because we aint there doing there jobs... now are we?? NO so what you need to do is just shut up about all of that...

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Peter (Moderator) says on Mar 31, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? The British make good taget practice but that is about all they are good for today or 200 plus years ago when we kicked their arrogant buts out of this beautiful country!

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Peter (Moderator) says on Mar 31, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? (Written by Max Colby)

Surely, you mean "butts" not "buts".

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Peter (Moderator) says on Apr 1, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? I think you'll find us British have arses, not butts, or buts, for that matter.


And not to get to imperialistc(!), I also think you'd find that, if there was ever a league table of wars- with wins, losses and draws- that Britain would be heading it, with the US lagging in the bottom half, behind France even.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Apr 2, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? THIS IS THE MOST PATHETIC CONVERSATION I HAVE READ SO FAR.............BUT HEY, WHAT EVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT

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Peter (Moderator) says on Apr 2, 2003, 21:00:

RE: The US Army a bunch of clowns, or what? Oh for the glorious European past! It's just that PAST!

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TioCharlie says on Jan 12, 2004, 00:14:

I agree with MJ... War is a very stressfull experience and I hope that it is something that our British 'friend' never has to experience.
"Monday morning quarterbacks always have winning records, an I predict.." - Jimmy the Greek

Anyways, i just wanted to toss my blurb into this thread.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 12, 2004, 07:50:

I for one don't think of the US Army as being a bunch of clowns. However, incidents of friendly fire casualties are definitely on the rise. In the first gulf war the UN estimates were that 51% of all Allied deaths were due to "friendly fire". Seems outrageous, but i don't know. Sadly, it's practice that makes perfect. I have a feeling that part of what we [the US] are doing in Iraq actually has to do with just that... practice.

KitKat

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 19, 2004, 06:14:

If the US Army is a bunch of clowns, what is everyone else? Don't ever think our Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines could not pound any country we want into submission. Period. The end.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 19, 2004, 07:06:

Seemed to have your hands full with Iraq....imagine if you tried to take on China.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 19, 2004, 15:53:

seems like you are in a dream world. Seems like we took out their entire armed forces in 2 days. Seems like we could take no prisoners if we wanted and destroy anybody and everybody in our path if we wanted. Seems like our armed forces are showing great discipline and restraint in trying to keep civilian casualties down and not terrorize everyone in their path. Seems like they are the worlds most professional and effective. Seems like you wish you could say this, but you can't. Sucks to be you sitting there wanting to be able to say this, with your delusions acting like we don't have the most professional, effective, and disciplined armed forces in the world. By the way, I still don't know what country you are from, I'd love to know...why don't you tell us? then I would be happy to let you know what I think of country and it's military machine and history.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jan 19, 2004, 17:42:

Stop Kidding Yourself You do know why the US attacked Iraq instead of N.Korea, don't you? N.Korea brags about having WMD. Stop kidding yourself, you only attack defenseless countries that can't fight back.

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ColombianAmerican says on Feb 8, 2004, 12:48:

We pounded Iraq into submission. Period. Is that why we are still getting blown away everyday and have had to go back to those unruly Europeans to ask for military/financial help? Now we will have to leave a Islamic government in place and hightail it out of there. I hope the new govermentin Iraq will be as submissive as we all believe.





Split my life here and there,
love both countries and their people,
:) Harry

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johninchicago says on Mar 3, 2004, 09:57:

we have to hightail it out of there? why do you say that is what we are doing?

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johninchicago says on Mar 3, 2004, 10:21:

and after further review... I'm not defending or ridiculing the war in Iraq....

However I will always defend American troops unless it is not warranted. I do find it necessary to address the person who started this post who appears to be British...

QUIT YOUR WHINING YOU PATHETIC BABY!!!! I AM SURE THAT THE LAST PERSON AN AMERICAN TROOP MEANT TO SHOOT BY ACCIDENT WAS A BRITISH OR OTHERWISE FRIENDLY TROOP!!!!

Furthermore, from a historical perspective if it wasn't for the US Army troops and their huge sacrifice in the world wars, your London might still to this day be being pummeled by German bombs and might now be called Londonberg. If it wasn't for US Army clowns doing the dirty work, you probably wouldn't even come to this forum because you would probably be speaking German.

Obviously, the US is not perfect but get real the US Army doesn't want these things to happen either and it's a tradgey that it happened. The US military has sacrificed more than it's fair share of lives to help other countries in need. (I can assure you we lost more than a few Americans in the liberation of Europe) If you want to bash US Policy and Politicians that is your choice. But to sit on the sidelines and bash the US Military when because it made a mistake is easy. It is even cowardly, you sit on the sidelines and bash the troops but I can definetly say that the US has sacrificed many more lives in helping its allies and other countries than it's allies have sacrificed in return. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and leave the dirty work to other people and than ridicule those folks if they make a mistake, but that is also what losers and cowards do.

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Gator says on Mar 5, 2004, 07:30:

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johninchicago says on Mar 5, 2004, 13:28:

don't forget too mention.... ....that the ammunition comes for free too, since there is a 100% probability that they are still fully loaded.

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greg says on Apr 4, 2004, 14:06:

U.S. ARMY The U.S. army is not a bunch of clowns but those that support the bush administration are definitely a bunch of clowns

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asmith says on Apr 4, 2004, 14:38:

If the real generals were Generals and allowed to do what they were trained for without interferance from the politicians, they could prevail over any other.Any time, any place. May God Bless America. No one wins a war, but one may be victorious. War must be the very last resort.

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asmith says on Apr 4, 2004, 14:51:

U.S.Army Peter: What does your statement have to do with Colombia??????? I really think you abused this forum. Poor Colombia needs support in many ways and some of us are trying to understand the beautiful country and the people of Colombia.----Signed An American.

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chrispej says on Apr 4, 2004, 23:04:

A bunch of clowns? The "clowns" are young men and women who have possibly taken a life and have to live with that for the rest of their lives. Some of these "clowns" have decided that they can't live with that and have committed suicide. I think about a dozen of these "clowns" have done this so far in iraq. I hate conflict in any nation.

The U.S. Supreme court ruled that a southern state had to remove a marble statue of the Ten Commandments, yet we go to war and the U.S congress sings God Bless America. I don't get it?

I truly want OUT of the U.S. That's why I am here on this list.

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vladimiro says on Apr 9, 2004, 09:14:

Just a Sign of Desperation The anti-American protests and uprisings are signs of the Progress that America is making in Iraq. Atleast Iraqies are now free to say they hate us and to get out of their country! When Americans soldiers get kicked out of Iraqi cities by "a few thugs", it just shows how desperate those dead-end loser Iraqies are. It means that we are winning! God Bless the USA!

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john says on Apr 9, 2004, 18:02:

Don't go there Buddy!! "Now we've just recieved news that an RAF jet was shot down by US forces by

mistake.

John

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SlmieBall says on May 28, 2004, 09:48:

You Are Right They are complete clowns. Personaly, I feel that they should all be tortured to death by Cuban soldiers -- or worse. But I am not a Soviet Premier, am I?

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