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The Most Powerful Woman Of The World

All of us who participate on poor but happy is half the product of a woman, who we will call your mother.

For the most part, the majority of persons love their mothers. In American sports, you will see sports stars say in the camera, "this one is for you mom" it might be a touchdown run in football, or the game championship.

Other people in giving credit for their success will say "I want to thank above all my mother who stood by me" Words might be a little different, but we get the picture.

Mothers are highly esteemed in most parts of the world. I am sure some would disagree because, their mother might have been abusive, or just left their children by the way side.

I myself think very lovingly of my mother and there is nothing I would not do for her.

How do we see women today? In the western society women are not as important as men. look at the media, work force, etc... men get the better roles, better pay, better positions in life.

In South America women are treated equal to western women or LESS.

No I am not saying that women should be equal, in the true sense of the word, but women are not looked at as the mothers of past generations.

Western women, it appears are vying for the same power as men, as a result, women are being shafted, they are not as important, as they once were.

IN third world countries little girls are use to do work loads of grown people.

In this western world, women are trying so hard to aquire material things that they want or need, they don't have time to be women, desired by their men.

Western men go to South America, and other third world countries, because it appears that they want the type of women, that earns the respect of all, and especially their men, that years later they (women) are credited, just as football players and other credit their moms, in life.

So what is wrong with being a women of the 30's, 40's, 50's, today.

What kind of woman is this? This woman is a doctor, financial expert, chef, great lover, great diplomat among her family, etc....another words, what is wrong with a woman who can be all things to her family, and her family recognize this and credit his wife, or mother with being a great woman?

I THINK that their are many many women of third world countries who want to be equal in the sense that they are recognized for the strong role they play in the family, but at the same time recognizing her role as a complement of her man.

The most powerful person in the world is not the president of a country, not the richest person in the world, not the most successful doctor, CEO, etc....

THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD IS A WOMAN WHO KNOWS HER PLACE IN LIFE, AND CAN INFLUENCE HER MAN, AND CHILDREN IN THE RIGHT WAY. THIS WOMAN CAN RESPECT, LOVE, BE SUBMISSIVE, LOYAL, AND WEILD THE POWER OF CONTROL WHEN SHE NEEDS TOO, FOR HER BENEFIT AND THAT OF HER FAMILY.

Show me a woman who takes care of her man in every way, has the respect of her children, and I will show you a woman who has more power than your most powerful woman of today, in any country.

I think, if women stop and think about this, talk to their men, and children, Demonstrate what they want from their families, they will be well on their way, to having everything they need in life, and many things they want.

With such a woman, when that man gets old, when the children become adults, they will speak of their woman (their wife, Mother) "this one is for you."

In fact ones local society will give recognition to such a woman.

Men can change their households, their lives, by recognizing that their greater happiness, and success can be through ones woman.

By southernman on Mar 11, 2006, 12:48 in Friendly Talkzone.

caulfield2 says on Mar 11, 2006, 12:59:

The reason these athletes usually thank their moms is the fact that many of them were raised by single mothers and abandoned by their fathers.

I appreciate your attempt to justify a return to the Eisenhower Era, but it simply is not going to happen.

You can argue the Biblical passages all you want justifying your beliefs for why women should not be equal to men, and you´re going to find plenty of men on this forum to support you, because they are looking for the same thing, from what I understand.

What I don´t understand is attacking American women, like they´re evil, like they have a different kind of family value that´s antithetical to a quote-unquote great society.

If you want a submissive woman, then you can find her. If you want a modern day Eleanor Roosevelt or Hilary Clinton or Gloria Steinem, you can certainly find them as well. But it´s ridiculous to say one is better.

The most powerful woman in the world is one who works all day, works at home the rest of the time raising her family and doesn´t ask to be thanked. How many men contribute as much to their families? The best women I know are the ones who are supported in their lives to do whatever they want to do, and sometimes that means working to support a man and her family, if necessary.

Mother Teresa, Princess Diana, Joan of Arc...I could list hundreds of women who accomplished what they did because they weren´t married or were freed of the restrictions placed on them by their controlling husbands to do and be whatever they wanted to be.

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Crazy4Cali says on Mar 11, 2006, 17:59:

Ahhhh, the good ol' days Oh, for the good-ol' days that never actually existed.

I think I have to lean towards caulfield2 on this one, but that's because southernman is painting with an awfully broad brush.

If a woman wants to be President, an Astronaut, a CEO, a diesel mechanic, or what ever, I feel they deserve that opportunity. At the same time, if they want to dress up in skimpy outfits and sponge money of old, rich guys, I think they deserve that opportunity as well.

Where I think they go over the line, is when some start claiming the right to have a great job, a great family, and a rewarding life. Now, if they can achieve all that, wonderful! I am truly impressed by the few who can manage such an accomplishment. But not even men have a right to all that. Heck, a man doesn't even have the right to have a job, let alone a successful, satisfying, and well paying one.

If a woman wants to dedicate herself to acheiving some professional goal, she has to understand that, like a man, it may be difficult to find a partner (male of female) who will make the sacrifice to support that endeavor (as he or she spends the requisite hours at work, travelling, etc. leaving their partners at home or pursuing their own goals.) If they can find such a partner, and it's not impossible, that's great, but nowhere is it written that anyone has a right to such a person.

So as far as southernman's views go, if he wants to recreate his version of "Father Knows Best," great. More power to him. If he thinks that Colombia is full of such women, well, he might want to wake up and smell the rich Colombian coffee. They have all kinds of women there just like they do here. If you don't go shopping with a level head, it's very easy to see only what you want to see and miss the warning signs.

The key to making this all work, of course is a) knowing what you want and b) being able to get your partner to understand it. Unfortunately, it is much easier to say, than it is to implement.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Mar 11, 2006, 21:38:

Caulfield2....Take me out to the ballpark..... Strike 1:

"The most powerful woman in the world is one who works all day, works at home the rest of the time raising her family and doesn´t ask to be thanked. How many men contribute as much to their families?" What an ignorant statement....do you know how many single fathers out there are doing the exact same thing? To imply that men don't contribute as much, at the same time heralding the woman as the only single parent is just plain ignorance of the facts....a true sexist statement....

Strike 2:

"What I don´t understand is attacking American women, like they´re evil, like they have a different kind of family value that´s antithetical to a quote-unquote great society." Obviously you have never met a Silicon Balley-Bay Area California woman, otherwise you wouldn't make such statements. The single women here, for the most part but not all, are very materialistic and unwilling to work for it themselves. It is much easier to suck it out from a person who works hard, maybe even possibly a single father, than to get their pom-pom eating, soap opera watching derrieres off of the couch/barstool and work for the things they want or need in life. And Family Values? You should say the lack thereof, because having a child is too much work physically, and then you actually have to raise the little buggers! The women here would rather pay someone else (from her man's money, of course)to bear and raise the kids. Too much work and time-intensive. Sometimes the word EVIL does cross the minds of the men living here! The women here dress, eat, sleep, and generally want to be just like men.....The uniform of the day is sweats! How feminine can that be! A woman has to give up her femininity to fit in here?

Stike 3:

I dont think southernman's post suggests a return to the "barefoot and pregnant" philosophy. He is pointing out that the C word, Communication, is very important for a relationship to work. Equal Partners, as opposed to the Nazi-Femme's hypocrisy, is a preferred model of relatinships in the modern era. Each person, male or female, has the right to choose the "make/model/type" of person they want as a partner in life. If a person wants his significant other to be more traditonal, like in some Third World countries, he should not be dismissed for it. Expressing one's preference and its benefits is not saying one woman is better/worse than another. And i dont read into his posting that he is not suggesting support of one's spouse, like your insinuation to the opposite by advising that "the best women I know are the ones who are supported in their lives to do whatever they want". Communication facilitate mutual support, also.

By the way, why would you include "Princess Diana" among the group who "accomplished what they did because they weren´t married or were freed of the restrictions placed on them by their controlling husbands to do and be whatever they wanted to be."? Umm...didnt her claim to fame begin with a marriage to a certain Prince? and because of that new found fame and glory, she was then able to accomplish things?

Just to add one last thing, I believe that the Colombiana is the most valuable resource that Colombia has, but Colombianos just do not realize it yet....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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poco says on Mar 11, 2006, 21:38:

I can't say with certainty --- The best women I know are the ones who are supported in their lives to do whatever they want to do.

This has worked for me, My GF in Colombia is an example,, she was bored and lonely while I'm gone (that’s nice :)

There she was with nothing to do but feed the kids, clean the house, visit her parents, relatives, sisters, brothers, neighbors, uncles, aunts, their kids, people down the street, up the street, around the corner, tend the bananas, platanos, avocados, orange, lemon, coffee AND a huge jungle of flowers, not to mention the house plants,, PLUS occasionally visit with the Parrot, chickens, ducks and who knows what other livestock resides there while I'm gone, she was sad.

I sympathize with her problem and am partially to blame, who wants to go to Colombia and wait until your GF gets off work? I know exactly how she feels,, until I'm successful with an eBay bid for a xBox 360,, life is meaningless.

We decided it was IMPOSSIBLE for her to find any kind of FULL time work and part time was?? 10,000 pesos per day. She works but it does not occupy much of her time (I guess?). The other things, well,,, not enough.

A new gym opened up,, WooWoo,, things are booming,, LOTS of equipment, trainers, exercise dancing (I always stop and admire the womens dedication to keeping their body in shape through the window.) Perfect way to keep occupied, healthy, trim and fit.

They also have classes for those that didn't finish High School, amazingly enough they can't get enough students to sign up so they can afford to pay the teacher.

I guess people are so busy they just don't have time to learn anything new,, Damn: the problems created by slightly better economic conditions :)

About a week ago she emailed me and was ALL EXCITED,,, they had found enough students and she is now back in school.

Is this because I supported her decision?

well,, who knows

It does indicate that Colombian women will starve themselves, have surgery, cut off their toe nails,, anything to avoid exercise.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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poco says on Mar 11, 2006, 22:01:

I knew it !!! The most powerful woman in the world is one who works all day, works at home the rest of the time raising her family and doesn´t ask to be thanked. How many men contribute as much to their families?

There you go caulfield,, see what fast typing can do,,, lets split hairs on powerful vrs. best,,, Ha,,

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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caulfield2 says on Mar 12, 2006, 07:06:

Miguel,

I grew up in the midwest (I was born in Iowa, as ¨flyover¨ country as it gets) and there is definitely more of an orientation in that part of the country towards getting married and putting family before career. On the coasts, both east and west, it is obviously much different in terms of mentality. You´re complaining about the women there, yet you accept it by continuing to live there and in all likelihood dating women from this sub-set of women available to date in the US.

I think women should feel free to wear whatever they want and be comfortable with it. Do you really think it´s progress when a woman here in Colombia feels she has spend 45 minutes to put on make-up, do her hair, put on her best bare-midriff blouse and mini-skirt just to go 2 blocks to the grocery store?

Obviously, you have never been to many countries of the world, because I would really love to find one where there are more men than women as single father, as opposed to single mothers. Try going to Russia...you´ll see most of the men unemployed, drinking and hanging out with their buddies in the middle of the day while the women toil away. Then they get home, have to go to the grocery store (every night, they don´t buy for weeks at a time like the US) cook for their man, clean, take care of the kids. What is the percentage of single fathers responsible for raising their kids in the US? I taught in an inner city school in Kansas City and had about 2 fathers out of 200 that were in the house and were the primary ones responsible for raising the kids. Just ask women down here with kids how responsible many of their ex-esposos and novios are sometime.

This whole thing about laziness has nothing to do with a FemiNazi (Rush Limbaugh´s words, not mine) philosophy, it´s the culture of the beautiful women who can and do get away with it, because men LET them. Do you really think there aren´t just as many women in Colombia or any other country in the world that would PREFER to work a hard job when they have another alternative? Of course, this trade comes at a cost...their husbands often leave them for a younger woman who is more alive-vibrant-interesting, etc. When you are satisfied with living an easy live and don´t want to improve yourself or grow as a person, you deserve to be a 35-45 year old woman with no prospects and no ability to support yourself. That´s when all the plastic surgeries in the world won´t be able to save you permanently...unless you can find a dumb gringo to come and whisk you off your feet and repeat the same process for 5-15 more years.

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Rubiazo says on Mar 12, 2006, 12:46:

Dammit I thought this thread was about the new Chilean president! I dunno if she really is the most powerful woman in the world, but I'll be watching down there very closely! I bet she does a great job! Put that in your chauvinist pipe southernman and smoke it.

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caulfield2 says on Mar 12, 2006, 12:49:

I don´t know, Conduleeza Rice would probably get some votes.

Hillary Clinton. The new German PM. Madonna, lol.

Oprah Winfrey would have to be up there.

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Rubiazo says on Mar 12, 2006, 19:25:

Condi is just a skinny Aunt Jemima in a business suit.

Hillary is no more than a talking head. She'll never get anywhere near any real power again.

Oprah is a rich black person in the US which means she is RUNNING SCARED AS HELL from the establishment.

I'll give you the German and Madonna :)

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aaronfromus says on Mar 13, 2006, 20:10:

Who Cares? Who cares about who is the most "powerful" woman? The concept of a "powerful" woman is a bit of an oxymoron anyway, since women only have as much "power" as men feel like giving them. Further, I think Southernman is referring more to the "influence" women can have than to any actual power. So I would disagree with Southernman on that point. I would just call it "influence" rather than going through the trouble of re-casting it as some kind of "power." The only thing more entertaining than Southernman's references to women as powerful, is caulfield2's, somewhat inferred, promotion of the equality of women to men. This thread is terminally silly.

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Rubiazo says on Mar 13, 2006, 21:16:

Aaronfromus, you are a retard. Who let you out of the institution?

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