The Gringo Invasion of Colombia Continues...

Leeroy says on Feb 14, 2008, 18:58:

Some will say "bad news", along the lines of "Colombia will become full of tourists and americanised and everything will suck as bad as the US (or wherever)"

Others will say "good news", as in "foreign investment".

I opt for the latter.

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:06:

Great news! Keep 'em coming with their dollars!

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billyb says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:13:

It's funny that the only ones complaining about gringo tourists in colombia are other gringo tousists that beat them there by a few weeks.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:44:

Good news though, just by comparision, the Disney resorts in Orlando Florida alone get more than 40 million visitors per year.

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slguy says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:51:

I think there must be a law that every latino visitor to florida go to disney. never met one yet that passed by the big ears without stopping in. but then, lots of gringos go there too. beats the crap out of me, why.

I just hate to see the silly-assed real estate prices that gringo invasions ALWAYS bring. maybe colombia is a big enough, and diverse enough, to limit the damages to only a few areas....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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billyb says on Feb 14, 2008, 19:55:

I don't think Colombia will ever reach saturation levels like Mexico or CR, so a little increase can only help the locals.

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billyb says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:07:

weeks, years, it's all the same.

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:09:

Rank Country Annual Number of Arrivals
1 France 75,500,000
2 United States 50,900,000
3 Spain 48,200,000


"Good news though, just by comparision, the Disney resorts in Orlando Florida alone get more than 40 million visitors per year."


Are you sure about that? So there are only ten million visitors annually to Non-Disney destinations in the US?

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slguy says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:12:

that would mean that only two out of every ten tourists to the US skip disney freakin world. sounds about right. ;)

plus- don't forget disney can be one only one itinerary stop of many, Simon. although it beats me why anyone wastes all that time and money in that longline wasteland. unless they have kids with them, of course.

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Medellin Traveler says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:13:

Sorry, this article came out TODAY!

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MaFe says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:16:

I hope you are right Billy!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:18:

Hey, I love Disney! You gotta drag me off those cute, little boats on the 'It's a Small World' ride!!

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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:19:

Simon, my number was total visitors to those resorts, not total foreign visitors. I don't know how a amusement park would differentiate between foreign and domestic, except by taking a survey. My complete guess would be about 25% are foreigners.

Where'd you get the 50.9 million total tourist visits for the entire US? That seems a little low but who really knows? They're probably basing that on tourist visa entries. That's how the Colombian gov counts it. Of course, there are a lot of people who get 3 or 4 "tourist" visas per year.

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:22:

Hollywood,

Just 'google' the most visited countries in the world and see for yourself.

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billyb says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:22:

MaFe, it's too far for the long weekenders like Mex and the Caribbean and probably too scary to many of the rest. I wouldn't worry (as long as they stay away from my haunts, jeje).

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miamimike says on Feb 14, 2008, 20:53:

billyb says on Thursday February 14th, 2008 19:55:

I don't think Colombia will ever reach saturation levels like Mexico or CR, so a little increase can only help the locals.

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BillyB--I agree with you 100%. I doubt we would ever see an Influx as Mexico/CR have seen in our lifetime. Even the countrie's like Nicaragua/Honduras who offer all those Retiree incentives haven't been overrun with Americans. Colombia has little to worry about IMHO,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:24:

simon where did you get those statistics.

france is number 1? maybe im the only one in the world not particularly interested in visiting france. a mi me contaron que alla la gente huele mal, son muy antipaticos, traicionan a cualquiera y son socialistas a morir.

:)

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:28:

Just 'google' it, parce.

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:39:

Keep in mind that a large percentage of tourists to Colombia come from other Latin American countries. In tourist destinations such as San Andres and Cartagena, I've seen lots of Argentinians and other South Americans as well as the occasional Mexican.

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scotty says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:41:

billyb is right, people are still to scared to go to Colombia. Everytime i mention to someone that i travel to Colombia they go oooooo, ahhhhh, ge you are brave going to Colombia, what a scarey place.so i dont see Colombia turning into a big time tourest place just yet.

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Simon says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:50:

And I bet most of those idiots can't even locate Colombia on a map, Scotty.

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Lostgringo says on Feb 14, 2008, 21:56:

The total amount of visitors to the US has little to do with the total amount of visitors to Disney. Allot of those visitors are from Americans actually living in the US. IMHO

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Robert Jorge says on Feb 14, 2008, 23:20:

Orlando is the number one "driven to" vacation destination in the US. The Florida Emerald Coast is number 2.

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 15, 2008, 00:27:

orlando is boring.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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scotty says on Feb 15, 2008, 00:29:

Simon you are correct. one girl said to me isnt Colombia next to Argentina? i said yea thats right you got it...sheeesh!
I get tired of explaining how great Colombia and Colombians are, so i just let them think what they want, after all they are the ones losing out on the experience of Colombia.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Medellin Traveler says on Feb 15, 2008, 03:16:

scotty says, "Simon you are correct. one girl said to me isnt Colombia next to Argentina?"

It's not? Then I must have been in Chile. AND...I'm on the WRONG message board! :O)

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lampltr says on Feb 15, 2008, 03:18:

As Colombia pushes for more tourism and the desire to get people remain longer, we may see the new bill (No one has information on), before the legislation get passed for pensionado's. Let's only hope. Added growth of foreigners living here has its pros and cons, but as stated, Colombia has a very large land mass, this will make a difference.

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Medellin Traveler says on Feb 15, 2008, 03:23:

I wonder how many Americans who are now living in Colombia are hiding out? And most importantly... for what?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 15, 2008, 03:27:

MT, I've often wondered about the same thing. My guess is that the majority of those hiding in Colombia are doing it for money reasons...debts, alimony, child support, embezzlement, but perhaps we have a few child molesters and murderers hiding in Colombia too...of course none of those folks are members of PBH:)

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bickerss says on Feb 15, 2008, 03:56:

i remember my first time in medellin in 2004 - hardly saw a foreigner. Last night at Tony Ramos for V day half the tables were gringos!!

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paisa29 says on Feb 15, 2008, 04:25:

Last night my favorite restaurant was full of gringos celebrating Saint Valentine.

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 04:44:

Pasia29, by any chance your favorite restaurant is Colombian? I ask because this is the other stuff foreigners do not know about ColUmbia.

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paisa29 says on Feb 15, 2008, 05:15:

es mas que todo de comida internacional pero tambien tienen algunas cosas nacionales y tipicas.

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morphus says on Feb 15, 2008, 05:18:

The restaurant is near Parque Lleras :)

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jack_jason says on Feb 15, 2008, 05:26:

Mientras vengan a crear empresas o a pasar vacaciones, bienvenidos sean todos los extranjeros. Pero si vienen a buscar trabajo, que los deporten.

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paisa29 says on Feb 15, 2008, 05:26:

Si, es Basilica.

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 06:41:

Comida internacional, que rico, por eso es que yo me quiero ir a vivir a Medellin. Para comida colombiana me voy a vivir a Florida o New York.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 15, 2008, 06:47:

Jack_jason...sería que eso se podía aplicar con reciprocidad a los colombianos que vienen a Europa?

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 07:25:

monpirri..que chistoso eres no?
Wouldn't Medellin have better comida Colombiana compared to NY or Florida?
I think so!?

Billy...let's hope that's true....

Scotty- A few days ago, Desi started this great post on pictures/videos of Colombia.
I was so impressed with some of the videos that I forwarded them to an older Italian lady, who I am trying to get to go to Colombia. Her response; "Oh, it seems like a nice country, but every country has that stuff, every country has beauty."

I was pist off and told her there is nothing like Colombia, we have it all. She said she's scared of what goes on there.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 15, 2008, 08:11:

I don't think Colombia will ever see an "invasion" on the scale of the tourist/retiree invasion of Costa Rica, either, because the country is at least 20 times larger both geographically and by population, not to mention farther from the US and you can't drive there.

On the other hand, I lived in CR for a while in the 1980's and it was almost unheard of to see another gringo. If you did, they were most likely Mercs (hello Ollie North) or exchange students. Nobody ever thought it would become what it has, what with the war raging next door, etc.

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jack_jason says on Feb 15, 2008, 08:14:

Claro que si Doña Desideria, que devuelvan a cualquier Colombiano que no este creando empleo o vacacionando en Europa. Bueno, eso es lo que Europa ya esta haciendo.

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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2008, 08:22:

MaFe - clearly you have never been to Italy.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2008, 08:23:

I have a small business that caters to gringos. I kinda need them to come down - visitors or forever.

So the peso fluctuations hurt me big time. There is a huge exposure risk and any real gringo who want's to live on his 401K, Retirment, Social Security, would be foolish coming here instead of US Dollar currency Panama or Ecuador where the only thing to worry about is inflation.

I count on those tourists but they are all USD. After the global correction that will continue, it will be difficult for US citizens to travel outside of the US. This worries me.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Frank Rizzo says on Feb 15, 2008, 08:56:

rocinante, from what i'm hearing the gringos traveling to colombia are drying up. It makes sense as we've had many months with a poor exchange rate. Even before the poor exchange rate the quality of traveler to colombia was one that did not spend much money in comparison to european travlers.

Until there is a rebound in the US economy and a better exchange rate, i'd guess there will be a continued decline in gringos with any level of money to spend traveling to Colombia.

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rocinante says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:02:

"Until there is a rebound in the US economy and a better exchange rate, i'd guess there will be a continued decline in gringos with any level of money to spend traveling to Colombia." Frank Rizzo.

Yeah it's a shame. Good thing I have other options. If one cannot internationally diversify the source of their income or be pais in local currency, moving to a place like Colombia is extremely risky.

This should be no secret but I don't see the peso ever hitting the 2100-2200 range again.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Frank Rizzo says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:09:

uggggg rocinante....I hope you're wrong on the cop exhange....

I'm no economist...what were the factors that gave such a strong dollar in 2005 that drove the exchange rate to 2500 plus??

Is it when the US economy is very strong, and low inflation...or are the factors just too complex to put in a box??

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Waterdawg says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:15:

Opinion .... As an exporter , I think we can live with 2000 and still compete ( as of today ) .. 2100 or 2200 an I will an Irish gig ( well try ) ..

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morphus says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:54:

Yeah Brazil

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gringoloid says on Feb 15, 2008, 09:58:

Cuba is best.

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morphus says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:06:

Forget Cuba! The police used to always find me when my visa card expired. I would be hiding out in a casa particular with a hot Cubanita and get a knock on the door...."time to go". A $100 bill in the passport would get me on the plane no matter what the date on the ticket said :)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Feb 15, 2008, 10:20:

I can't imagine that the difference between the dollar at 2500 or at 1900 really makes a huge difference to most American "tourists".

Let's face it, it seems like a huge percentage of the "tourists" here are men looking for attractive Colombianas, either as marriage prospects or for more short-term affairs. And Colombia is still a total bargain if that's your goal. A middle-class gringo can come to Colombia and live like a king for a while.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 12:51:

It makes a difference to people like myself who pay their cousins college tuitions, and the registration, uniforms for almost 30 cousins!

Hollywood, I agree with you, if you are middle class gringo you can live like a king down there.
My aunt retired from NY, not from a middles class job, a lot less. She lives muy muy comada in Cali, in a very expensive part.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:13:

"It makes a difference to people like myself who pay their cousins college tuitions, and the registration, uniforms for almost 30 cousins!"


Mucho cuidado que no te esten cogiendo de marrana.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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gringoloid says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:15:

a visa problem is on the cuban end, morphus. i can't imagine fbi,atf,irs agents going around cuba knocking on doors. i can't even imagine cuban officials cooperating with these agencies.

that guy, Robert Vesco hid out in cuba for a long time, and the usa govt wanted him bad.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:26:

Simon....I think you are very arrogant, sabes que? Me haces el favor and don't answer my post. You are very exasperating...I know where my money goes, so before you make your ignorant comments, ask questions!

I have no shame is stating that my mother's family is very poor...excuse me for caring about my family, and trying to help them break the poor cycle they live in.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:31:

Oye, yo solo le estoy dando un consejo, y creeme que se muy bien de lo que hablo porque se lo conchudos que pueden ser los familiares Colombianos de los que vivimos en el exterior. Y acuerdate que muchos que reciben plata de los de aca (EEUU), se echan a vivir 'bueno' de eso en vez de salir a trabajar y progresar! Ojo!

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:36:

Si Simon, pero hay formas mejore, better way to word things...The second post you made was better!
I completly understand what you are saying, but I personally check on their grades...

Of course I have 2 cousins that always call asking for money, and I do give in, but for the most part I know it's going towards my cousins education.
Maybe I am being sensitive today- which I usually am not, pero no me gusto que dijiste marrana...

Simon te gusta peliar o que?
Porque, you have tried offending me twice already....hmmm...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 13:43:

No te llame "marrana", solo estaba repitiendo el dicho. Y creeme que acabo de regresar de Colombia y me paso muchas con primos descarados pidiendome plata, grrr!!!

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:41:

Simon. Yo pensé que vivías en Colombia. No es así?

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:42:

Ah Simon...perdon...y ya entiendo...pero los primos que estoy ayudando, se que estan en la U, ya los chiquitos..

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 14:59:

Ahora estoy en EEUU.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:27:

Si, entendi. Yo se que cuando uno va a Colombia, pues piden mas. Mi mama se pone brava porque ella dice que yo soy muy floja, pero ellos no tubieron las oportunidades como tube yo.

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:40:

Algunos familiares y amigos en Colombia piensan que en EU, todos nos sobra el dinero como si fuéramos super ricos. La mayoría no son así, pero nunca falta un conchudo que piensa que uno es cajero automático. Eso es muy canson y uno les tiene que explicar que aunque como profesional se gana muy bien acá, la vida también es mucho mas cara. A mi no me molesta ayudar a la gente, pero tampoco me gusta que se aprovechen solo porque uno tiene dinero.

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:58:

CB,

Te cuento que mis papas se fueron a vivir a Colombia por unos meses y no faltaron algunos sobrinos conchudos que les pidiera plata prestada. Uno fue tan descarado que cuando le pago la plata que le debia a mi papa un Viernes, regreso el Lunes para pedirle mas! Y para colmo mis papas se regresaron y ese guevon no le pago a mi papa!

Tambien me tocaba cargar a otro primo cada vez que salia con el, que para el taxi, que para los tragos, que para comer, inclusive hasta pedia usar mi celular porque siempre estaba sin minutos, no joda!! Lamentablemente, la desfachatez es otro de los grandes defectos de nuestra gente.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 15:58:

CG well said...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:01:

Ve Mafe, me prestas unos pesos para poder ir al cine esta noche?

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:18:

No Simon, pleasure is different from education...asi que suerte mijito,,,,ja ja

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Simon says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:26:

Pero si era para que fueramos los dos.....bueno, it's your loss, lol

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 16:44:

“monpirri..que chistoso eres no?
Wouldn't Medellin have better comida Colombiana compared to NY or Florida?
I think so!?"

MaFe, no me estaba haciendo el chistoso, lo que pasa es que paisa29 me parecio que tenia pena o verguenza de decir que el restaurante favorito de ella se especializa en ricas comidas colombianas y algunas cosas internacionales, creo que en ese orden y con un mayor enfasis en la comida criolla ayudaria un poco mas a promover lo tipico para que los internacionales comienzen a conocer a la cocina colombiana.

I believe she did not emphasize much on the local food but instead she said the restaurant serves international and some national or typical, but it does not matter now because Morphus has posted a good link about Medellin and I found this about Basilica restaurant:

“Make sure you try traditional Colombian cuisine with a modern flare at the bustling Basilica restaurant (Cr 38 8A-42 Antioquia). Locals and visitors alike enjoy the spirited nights fueled with live music and traditional dancing. And yes, the gorgeous staff are known to speak our language, if you know what I mean."

http://www.logoonline.com/travel/features/five_best_underrated_cities....

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:36:

Ah Monpirrisito...ya veo!!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 18:41:

Que es eso Monpirrisito? Me suena como un plato exotico.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:00:

Ja claro..tu! =)

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:04:

Ay caramba y ahora que hago?

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:14:

Bueno, decirle a tu mujer que te cocine,season you, and enjoy!
=)

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:23:

Jaja que chistosa, lo que puedo hacer es condimentarme bien rico y salir a la calle para ver si alguien me come, yep that's what I'm going to do for halloween.

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MaFe says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:26:

That would be very interesting to see...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Monpirri says on Feb 15, 2008, 19:30:

Ok, I would let you know when I'm ready to go just BYOB.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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BillBigD says on Feb 15, 2008, 21:38:

235,000 US vistors is really nothing
$2500 compared to 1800 makes a big difference. Just like the Euro at par 1 to 1 compared to now.

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adrimm says on Feb 16, 2008, 00:48:

North Americans are but one group, I think that other visitors (South American travel is getting to be very adventure-chic in Europe), account for a solid chunk in visits and increased numbers - 1.03 million foreigners in '07 . Also as the American currency falls, those that do travel will be looking to go places that are cheaper than say Europe...... and even at 1800 COP, Colombia still is.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.aspx?Feed=AP&Date=2008...

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 10:37:

ehhh que parsito pa peliar (mafe y simon).

cuidado parcerito con la reina que es muy hermosa. no me grite mucho papa!!

oiga pero por ahi lei que en ny y florida hay mejor comida colombiana que en medellin? uy no ese que se fumo? are you kidding me?

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Monpirri says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:32:

Bueno, a lo mejor tu seras el unico paisa con un buen conocimiento sobre nuestra cocina colombiana y a lo mejor, si eres verraco, nos traes unas foticos de todos eso platos que se hacen alla, pero por favor no mas fotos de bandejas paisas, porque esa vaina esta muy repetida y quemada ya.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 15:53:

oigan a mi papa. que le tome fotos a la comida. uy no mijo en esas no me meto yo papa.

obviamente vos no sos paisa... pero tranki... como su comidita en fl y ny hermanito tranki.

pase por pollos mario, tierras colombianas, natives, pueblito viejo, el tablazo, el fogon, la cabana, las palmas o chalos.

parce y es que en pasto hay mucha comidita buena o que?

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Monpirri says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:09:

No le de miedo y tomele fotos estos a esos lugares que mencionastes porque el proposito es promover lo nuestro en esta pagina...claro que en Pasto hay mucha comidita buena, solo tomate un tiempo para que leas todos mi temas sobre comida colombiana y te daras cuenta.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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Monpirri says on Feb 16, 2008, 16:21:

Te recomiendo si viajas para Medallo que compres en una libreria uno o dos libros sobre la cocina colombiana y vas ver las maravillas como los paisajes del pais.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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MitchAlvarez says on Feb 16, 2008, 20:29:

parcerito miedo? de que estas hablando ome? no se me acelere mijo y como que lea todos tus temas? jaja

mire hermanito su opinion es su opinion. para mi me parece ridiculo decir que la comida colombiana es mejor en los estados unidos que la que se consigue en medellin.

bueno no voy a seguir alegando el tema. no se que tanto conozcas a mi ciudad para decir algo asi.

a si... y libros de cocina no me intersan para nada. sera que vos sos chef o algo asi.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Monpirri says on Feb 16, 2008, 21:00:

Tranquilo, si no lo quieres buscar aqui estan para saber mas de Colombia.
Sabores de Nariño

Festival Gastronómico

Y yo no soy de Medellin, Bogota, Pasto o Barranquilla, yo soy de Colombia.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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