The Days Before the Gringo Invassion

love2travel says on Oct 31, 2009, 10:42:

Is it really that bad? Are there really that many gringos?

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Saltador says on Oct 31, 2009, 10:55:

onefor,
I think the solution is obvious. You need to blaze a new trail, just like you did in 1984. Strike out for a place relatively unknown to the gringo masses, a place where you would once again be given the pioneer status you deserve. Iraq or Afghanistan, Somalia, Algeria, Yemen, the choices are endless. Colombia has been ruined, it's time to find a new paradise.

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teeo9111 says on Oct 31, 2009, 10:56:

In the grand scheme of things the overall number of gringos in Colombia is miniscule. Yes there are pockets of areas in Medellin that have a decent amount of them but it is still a small percentage compared to some areas of Mexico or Costa Rica. In Manizales where I live I can count on one hand how many gringos I have seen in three years,yes there are more than a handful,there are a handful on PBH that live there but in a city of close to a half million if there were a hundred living there it would be a piss hole in the snow. And please let's not start a debate about the gringos being to blame for the prepago proliferation bullshit because that is what it is,bullshit.

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:02:

Teeo,

There are about 50 gringos in Manizales at any given time. The ones that are in just tend to quiet and keep to themselves. They wanted a simpler life and did not need to live a place with oodles of shopping centers or food courts. They all have assimilated pretty well.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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Sam Salmon says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:04:

One word-Suriname-you never heard it from me-OK?

' a la orden!'

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:13:

Damn gringo sex tourists.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:19:

Damn, flatline, did you have to show video of my last houseparty! %*$##

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:22:

Miguel, when you come to Manizales I will take you to Casa Show, its like hooters, without food or clothes.

I do not need to dress up my degeneracy with chicken wings and draft beer.

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Saltador says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:24:

Awww....no wings? What kind of fun would that be?
I'm in!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:29:

Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:31:

Thats an excellent idea, Kat1.

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:34:

Well, if I were looking to get off the gringo path I would not live in Bogota or Medellin. Nor Cali because they got one gringo there giving us all a bad name.

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:37:

Kat,

There is one in Miami, Simon.

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RAAAY says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:58:

Saltador says on Oct 31, 2009, 10:55 (today): flag

" onefor,
I think the solution is obvious. You need to blaze a new trail, just like you did in 1984. Strike out for a place relatively unknown to the gringo masses,"



Best suggestion yet on PBH. He should reach for the stars...............Move somewhere else.......Find another country to move to, and then bitch about. What about Lah Lah Land...??? You spend most of your time there anyway..why not move..??


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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manINred says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:00:

it cannot be that bad (unless you're racist). I barely saw a gringo in Colombia, and I went throughout the entire country. I'm going back for a few weeks and I can guarantee that I will barely see one. And even if there are a few, who cares? They'll stick to places like Lleras and Candeleria (sp) and Sexta and Taganga. It's no big deal, it's some added currency for the Colombian economy.

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RAAAY says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:00:

Why don't we have a special section for troll posts.??

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:21:

The next "paradise" will not be talked about but only amongst the closest of friends and family and will NOT have a forum dedicated to it neither. Its probably out there right now but we will be the last to know about it which is a real good thing.

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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cableboy says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:30:

It's a bit ironic to be complaining about increased gringo presence when you're on a forum of 90% gringos.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:52:

theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 12:54:

I think something died a little inside of me when they opened a Hooters.

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bickerss says on Oct 31, 2009, 13:03:

Next paradise is El Salvador!!

Investment Strategy - buying when others are crying!! Offloading when others are gloating!!!

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theflatline says on Oct 31, 2009, 14:04:

Sapo,

Can I have some of your pretty pills?

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tropicalshirt says on Oct 31, 2009, 14:16:

Someone has been to everywhere and experienced everything already for a long time.

You travel up the remote Rio Aracá... a tributary of the remote Rio Negro... a tributary of the mighty Amazon... and a fokin Frenchman floats down the river!

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Papi de Alejo says on Oct 31, 2009, 15:36:

Did he have photos and what were they of?

Live simply... Love generously... Care deeply... Speak kindly...

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 31, 2009, 16:51:

barrumundi says on Oct 31, 2009, 17:41:

love it......or leave (Colombia). Stop your whining. You sound like a plane full of pommies after they turned off the engines!

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/uploading-photos-for-dummies/

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medefockinllin says on Oct 31, 2009, 21:24:

"The Days Before the Gringo Invassion"

When I read the title of this post I assumed you were referring to corrupt Uribe selling this country down the river by letting Uncle Sam set up bases here.

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Buongone says on Oct 31, 2009, 21:48:

He's jsut saving you from the Chavez Invasion. Back-up Plan. Eh? Ha!

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billyb says on Oct 31, 2009, 22:00:

"In the grand scheme of things the overall number of gringos in Colombia is miniscule."'

You are so right, the numbers od gringos in Colombia are so miniscule, that their impact (if any) are a non-issue to Colombians, only to to other expats. All evils ascribed to Gringos in Colombia have been there way before the so-called "gringo invasion" and will be the after it ends (assuming one really exists).

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Sam Salmon says on Oct 31, 2009, 22:40:

"Next paradise is El Salvador!!"
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STFU Will You!!!11!!

I had them all headed to Suriname and now you blew it!♠♠♠♠♠

' a la orden!'

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El Expatriado says on Nov 1, 2009, 02:27:

I don't know what the hell you are talkin about. The places I go, I don't see a gringo for weeks on end.

Colombia aint freakin' Cancun.

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davidslc46 says on Nov 1, 2009, 05:49:

I don't know what the hell you are talkin about. The places I go, I don't see a gringo for weeks on end.


Ditto,

And I live in Medellin.

David

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 1, 2009, 06:36:

Miami? JAJA yea and I can keep up with my Spanish there a well.

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 1, 2009, 07:15:

You still don't see too many gringos in places like Monteria, Sincelejo, Cerete, Lorica etc. I doubt you ever will.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 1, 2009, 08:44:

Here is the problem in a nut shell. What you have is people here all stick together and the envy or whatever it is that makes them beleive the worst chisma the worst story the worst worst worst about the gringo is alive and kicking. So for every failed relationship here that some visa hunter has she goes and spreads a bunch of lies about the gringo and EVERYONE beleives it and talks the same crap and news travels fast. They don't ever say anything good. I have devoted my life to helping kids here and o you think that anyone would say anything good about it? hell no all I hear is that I am doing this or that or having "fun" comments with the girls... bla bla bal , thing is non of them lift a finger to help but that is another issue.

So I hear this story and that about this gringo dog or that and all the woman they have. bla bla bla bla bla. Bullshit. Why is it OK then for the COlombian to have lal the women in the world, the biggest dogs I ahve ever met and open about it. The gringo is going to be more descreet if he is a dog. The Latin is going to shout it frm the rooftops.

So in every situation the gringo is held to impossible standards. If you have not learend this yet then well you probably do not speak spanish or you have not been here long enough or your living in some fantasy reality.

Thus the more gringos the more opportunity for the chisma and the lies and the exagerations.

Example a friend of mine here who is a little off, beautiful but intense and well crazy as a bed bug but beautiful. So Everyone here knows this, and well keeps their distance. She met this guy in the US while on vacation there, fell in "love" with him and came back to Colombia but they got married. A steamy romance with fighting and bla bla. She gets married, she gets pregnant, seperated all withing 5 months. I visited her in S Florida where she was living in the house of this gringo, driving his car and just running his beautiful life he once had into the ground. All she could talk about is how bad he was. What a bad man and terrible and bla bla bla bla bla. I listened but I know what happened. This guy got taken to the frickin cleaners by a nice person but one who is shit nutier than a fruitcake, which describes the type woman who seeks out gringos because they beleive that a change of scenery means a change in them and it does not.

so much for a nut shell..................

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roloenNJ says on Nov 1, 2009, 08:48:

How about Pasto, I heard is nice over there ?

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theflatline says on Nov 1, 2009, 09:06:

As my Colombian grandmother once told me about my beautiful ex "IF she she 25 and not married, something could be wrong, if she is 30 and not married something is wrong".

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miamimike says on Nov 1, 2009, 10:26:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 31, 2009, 11:29: flag

ofym I heard that Miami hardly got any gringos there, why don't you go :))


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Here I is Kat ! You are right, in the Miamilatin Barrios like Hialeah, Allapatah(pequena santo domingo)Little Habana ect., very few 100% pure Gringos spotted. In the Miami Colombian Tabernas (which shall remain un-named) I frequent on rare occassions, nary a Gringo is to be seen on the premises. Since my first trip to Col in 1994, I rarely spot a Gringo but then I avoid Gringo Magnet Hotspots like Zona Rosa ect because as soon as the word gets out that a Gringo crowd is patronizing a particular area, prices Soar. Never could understand why someone would travel 1000's of miles only to go to places where they meet up with people who speak and act just like the kind they wanted a break away from. Strange Indeed,,,

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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Wastelandlive says on Nov 1, 2009, 12:42:

"who seeks out gringos because they beleive that a change of scenery means a change in them and it does not."

A pearl of wisdom amongst the rubbish.

Wasteland

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Rocco81 says on Nov 1, 2009, 21:35:

Kat1 Funny comment..he could go to LA or Miami...or hell even come to my neighborhood its about 60% latin. Or he could just shut up, stop whining and enjoy his Colombian stay.

Sic semper tyrannis

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miami55 says on Nov 2, 2009, 02:21:

What I noticed is that most Colombians think that americans come to look for prepagos because they themselves just figure its normal too :P I dont think its so much a reputation thing as it is just how they talk. Plus I mean, if you meet a guy for a friend, what better thing to talk about than women? I never saw americans during my time in Colombia, only if I decided to stay in a hostel.

Plus if they asked if I came to Colombia for the women, I happily responded that I'm from Miami and if I can get laid by a latina every time I go to South Beach :P It would be rough on my ego to know I had to travel to a new country just to pay a girl to get laid!!

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 05:08:

miami yep good points so it is not really that they get prepagos but that the prepagos are so easily gotten by them? Yep that is probably it. Envy rules the entire country. ;)

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 05:31:

The problem is'nt gringos, its Colombian culture. Colombians exaggerate and create stereotypes to a large degree. For example, my girlfriend was looking for an apartment for me. She went to look at one apartment and told the landlady it was for me(gringo). She told my girlfriend, "they're (gringos) no good". All because one German guy stayed at the apartment and used too much water. Thats all it took to make her hate all foreigners. A few gringos dating prepagos is all it will take to label all of us as sex tourists. At the same time there will be Colombians that will think you are stupid if you were a "good boy" and did'nt get any action from the easy women.

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:12:

Charlie truer words never spoken

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davidyamiga says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:29:

Million...I am sorry, but you do really sound bitter. Perhaps some lady caused your attitude? There are MANY GRINGOS who come to Colombia for the scenery, pace of life, and enjoy the peace it provides. Not every gringo that come to Colombia, do to get laid. May be you need to change where you live or the people you surround yourself.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:31:

Don't let it get to you. I've been the "bad boy" in Colombia too (who has'nt?). I remember one time in Cartagena I had a "dirty afternoon" with 2 prepagos. I did'nt have any cash in the apartment so we went to the ATM together accross from my building. I took out some cash and handed it to the girls in broad day light, in front of everybody (Colombian families, doormen, taxistas, vendors). I had no shame. As appalling as it was, I felt that these people repected my nonchalantness. The males in the Colombian families had envy in their eyes as if they wished they could be so brave to do the same.

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Rocco81 says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:39:

Yep Kudo's charlie.

Also, I really do think the whole gringo stereotype thing is partially a creation of forums like this one. I mean If I were only going by this forum I would think that there are hookers on every corner, in every bar, in every gas station, in every damn church. Basically from what I could gather from forums like PBH lately are the following stereotypes:

1. All Colombianas are natural hookers in one form or another, who will sleep with anyone for a dollar...especially old gringo's.
2. All gringo's are horrible mongers that offer so much money to the poor Colombiana that she just cannot refuse and of course Gringo's invented prostitution.

Sic semper tyrannis

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billyb says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:44:

"he males in the Colombian families had envy in their eyes as if they wished they could be so brave to do the same."

Or stupid? Colombians have been doing it since the beginning of time, they just don't care to have the whole world know their business. It's called not giving papaya.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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davidyamiga says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:51:

These activities happen in every country. Even in Gringoland. They busted a strip joint in West Palm Beach this past weekend. Ladies were selling drugs and their bodies. So what is the difference/ I think Million has a serious problem.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:54:

Nothing stupid. Single male gringos in Colombia have no reason to sneak around with prepagos. Colombian men wish they can do the same. I remember one time I came out of Show San Diego in Medellin with a stripper. She was all over me. As I was getting in the taxi, she was kissing me all over. The taxi driver whispered "you fucked" as if it was a big secret. In the US, a taxi driver would say "you got some ass" and gave a high five.

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billyb says on Nov 2, 2009, 06:58:

"Nothing stupid. Single male gringos in Colombia have no reason to sneak around with prepagos"

No matter who you are. or where you are from, it is always better to be discreet and not handle your affairs in public. Of course if the purpose was to try to impress, then that's another matter.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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dguittar says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:10:

I think I resemble that remark?
A rancher was working on a corner fence post when a big truck pulled up and stopped. A fancy dressed gringo guy steps out and says " I'm here to inspect your ranch for marijuana growing. " The rancher says "there is not any marijuana growing here." Now the gringo steps up close and says as he flashes his badge " I'm a DEA agent, from The US, and this badge says I can go where ever I want. Do you understand me! The rancher just nodded and the agent pushed by and headed up the pasture. About 5 minutes later the agent came running out of the trees across the field chased by a large bull.. When he got close enough to the rancher, he heard the rancher yell " show him your badge".

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:21:

billyb, why be discreet with prepagos in Colombia? Its 100% legal in Colombia. Are you descreet when you go to the store to buy a loaf of bread?

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theflatline says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:21:

Yeesh,

How many gringos go to Colombia with gringo wives. And this goes for Europeans too. About .0000000000000000001 I imagine.

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:25:

I have'nt seen any gringos with gringo wives in Colombia.

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:26:

Miss Tanga? They should call that Miss Culo.

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:29:

Me either, in fact that is something I am asked occasionally by Colombians. That is why are all the gringos who come to Colombia in their 40's or better and have no wives? Hmm it is a mystery? jaja Are we all experiencing mid life crises? JAJA

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theflatline says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:44:

Well, I for one am calling DAS and make sure that the French invasion is over.

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davidyamiga says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:44:

Wow...Million. You finally agree you are part of the problem. I am not picking on you directly. I do not know you, but just that your comments are always negative. Look at all the positives in Colombia. There are over 40 million colombianos and a few are the ones who cause the negative status. Colombia does not need more negativism. If you do not like the way Colombia is today, there sure are a lot of countries to explore.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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billyb says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:45:

"billyb, why be discreet with prepagos in Colombia? Its 100% legal in Colombia. Are you descreet when you go to the store to buy a loaf of bread?"

It has nothing to do with it being legal. Never mind.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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theflatline says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:48:

billyb,

the store in my neighborhood has a blond who works there who is either a prepago, or just a slut. I am going with slut. At least I hope so because she sure is pretty.

In 20 years I have only known one gringo with a gringo wife living in Colombia and he left her for a Colombiana.

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:49:

billyb, are you scared to get a pro out in the open?

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:51:

Sorry if I interupted your happy time. You go ahead and put out all the positive bullshit you want and I will keep it on a level playing field. You are one of those very insecure people who have to have everything your way or you attack. I will post the other side, you post your fantasy bullshit if you want.

I suppose if I never did anything here to help the poor, never saw how they are forced to live, how they are misstreated then well maybe I could join you in your extremely superficial paradise that you call Colombia. I guess that ws my mistake, I got involved in Colombia.

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CharlieTheOwl says on Nov 2, 2009, 07:54:

I'm tired od hearing this crap about people being too negative about Colombia. You can never be too careful in Colombia. If you let your guard down in Colombia for one second...B-A-N-G!!! Its all over.

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davidyamiga says on Nov 2, 2009, 08:10:

Charlie...you are 100% correct. People who do not like to live where they live, should get the HELL out of dodge.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 08:12:

David I think your a bit confused Charlie is telling you to fok off and shut up. JAJA He is not agreeing with you.......... LOL

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billyb says on Nov 2, 2009, 08:18:

"billyb, are you scared to get a pro out in the open?"

Like I said, never mind, you are too green to understand how things work. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you have to do it. If I got a prepago, I sure wouldn't walk her to the ATM across from my house and pay her in front of my neighbors, besides it being classless, you are giving papaya to whoever might be watching and, maybe, filing that info away for future use.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Rocco81 says on Nov 2, 2009, 08:25:

Get a pro in the open? What about tagging her in the open too? That is cool.

Sic semper tyrannis

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davidslc46 says on Nov 2, 2009, 14:56:

I just spent yesterday partying in Santa Domingo. I would loive to see any of you bad ass gringos in front of an ATM in that town flaunting yourselves. What a bunch of crap. We are not talking citibank el poblado.

David

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The Days Before the Gringo Invassion
I remember when people used to ask me why I came to Colombia? I could tell them all the cool things I have found about living here. They would say something like welcome and am glad your enjoying our country. Some of them would go to great lengths to tell me that as NO ONE hardly was comming to Colombia. They liked the idea that a gringo chose to live in theri country. This was before all the security and all clear for gringos. If I saw another gringo in a tourist area it was a big deal. Some of you can relate, most of you can not.

Now there is no questions.... they just assume that I cam to dip into the prepago well or that some prepago visa hunter has got me on her hook. It is very sad what has happend to the Colombia I found in 1984 for the gringo anyway.

Everyone is praying for a strong dollar or weak peso. You know what that means? More gringos, more gringos and the rep just is gonna slip further down the gutter.

Oh well this is the way it is and every paradise is ruined when risk is removed and the wienies show up. Colombia is no exception. .

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GIB---Good Post & points you make. Youv'e pretty much nailed the Situation! Kudos

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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oneforyourmillion says on Nov 2, 2009, 18:18:

Thanks man I wish I was wrong! JAJA But sadly it is the times. ;)

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miamimike says on Nov 2, 2009, 18:57:

GIB---You're Spot on concerning this One!

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska

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flynn flanagan says on Nov 2, 2009, 20:36:

Wow, this sounds serious.

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theflatline says on Nov 2, 2009, 20:51:

I have just DAS to confirmed we have filled the quota from France and they are working feverishly to rid us of the ones we have let in mistakenly..

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Rocco81 says on Nov 3, 2009, 08:36:

davidslc46 says on Nov 2, 2009, 14:56: flag

I just spent yesterday partying in Santa Domingo. I would loive to see any of you bad ass gringos in front of an ATM in that town flaunting yourselves. What a bunch of crap. We are not talking citibank el poblado.

David
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? Maybe I'm not in the loop, but I didn't see anyone on here flaunting themselves or acting bad ass.

Sic semper tyrannis

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nine inch nails says on Nov 3, 2009, 13:20:

You can still go many tourist places in this world and not see another one of your countrymen even in Costa Rica!

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davidslc46 says on Nov 3, 2009, 16:09:

Rocco81

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Maybe I'm not in the loop, but I didn't see anyone on here flaunting themselves or acting bad ass.

You are right if you meant it made no sense. It was posted on the wrong thread.

My Bad,


David

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