The Body Beautiful

Miguel says on Dec 20, 2006, 10:18:

Jajaja Yo no estoy preocupado para los colombianos.

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kalder says on Dec 21, 2006, 00:35:

Fair comment Miguel :)

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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adrimm says on Dec 21, 2006, 02:25:

Grooming Gym aside, it isn't uncommon for Colombian men to get manicures, many are also very vain about what labels they wear, so I expect that a continued and possibly increased interest in physical appearance will occur.

Gyms: I don't see Colombian guys venturing much into Schwazenegar-land because I just don't see enough demand or interest in that from women. There is fit and firm, and then there is bulked-up unnatural overkill, which to me, is far worse than someone who is a bit cuddly.

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gringolondinense says on Dec 21, 2006, 03:31:

you dont need steriods to get big. Sure its a quick and easy way but not the only way. Most stories surrounding steriod use are just that..stories. There is very little research available on steroid use.

Besides, merely using the term "steroid" lumps all these chemicals into the same category, when different steriods have different chemical structures and properties. Highly androgenic steroids are usually taken in tablet form are the ones that will screw you and your liver up. Others, like nandrolone have no damaging effect on the liver and have low androgenic properties.

As I said already, very little research is available on these chemicals because they are illegal in most coutries, so that puts an end to clinical trials.

Go to www.nlm.nih.gov to check out the latest research.

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seabass says on Dec 21, 2006, 07:12:

To hell with steroids.
If To hell with steroids.
If you got the cash, you can get implants like women do.
There's pec implants, bicep implants, calf implants, penal implants, ass cheek implants...get the idea?

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morphus says on Dec 21, 2006, 07:40:

The problem is most people don't know how to train. They either do too many sets with light weight or too much weight with a spotter doing half of the work for them. That leads to overtraining. I see it in Colombia and at the gym I workout in Bronx, NY. I'm usually the strongest guy in the gym wherever I go. I get a lot of attention when I move around heavy weights but I'm just doing what is most productive and what will get me in and out of the gym quicker. I only spend around 3 hours a week in the gym.

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kalder says on Dec 21, 2006, 07:49:

Wise words That's actually a very astute point. 'Less is more' is, as you say, more productive. And a lot of benching is just vanity stuff: the spotter doing half the work for some people.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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gringolondinense says on Dec 21, 2006, 07:58:

yep its about putting maximum stress on the muscles in the gym. Keep workouts short and hard!! 45 mins is an ideal workout length.

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alleycat says on Dec 21, 2006, 08:37:

now it's about the "boys" in colombia. lol will this thread go over 200 posts like the one about colombia women?

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gringolondinense says on Dec 21, 2006, 08:49:

yer i can just imagine women saying they are seeking a man that has a "real" chest and saying they are tired of meeting siliconanos!!

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sweetg30 says on Dec 21, 2006, 08:52:

lol, that's funny alleycat Colombian women are different and unique that's why that thread went that far. And they like older, mature men and they're not into looks.So now the gym, that's a good subject, I go to the gym 3 times a week for one hour, the rest of the week I try to walk a lot. But boys and girls in colombia like to look good and take care of their bodies, nothing wrong with that.

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sweetg30 says on Dec 21, 2006, 08:57:

Imagine gringolondinese what's wrong with slim guys? I'm not into all those muscular guys, i like the slim, fit type. And who cares about muscles if you're nice and decent and know how to talk to a woman that's all it matters. Now out of curiosity, do you guys like to work out to get girls or just to look good , or both?

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gringolondinense says on Dec 21, 2006, 09:08:

Hola SG theres nothing wrong with slim guys at all. Just some guys like me only feel good when we are in good shape which means good muscles. Sometimes guys dont know where to stop and get too big and girls dont like it. For myself personally, yes i have to have fairly big muscles (compared to the average guy i mean) because of the feeling i get from it. I wanna be able to see myself in good shape. Yer and its nice to get girls looking sometimes too (but not that much in england lol)!!!

Its good that you work out...youre probably already very cute being colombiana and if you have a bit of a toned body its a big turn on 4 guys. Personally i like girls with a bit of strength in their bodies..its very attractive :-). lol.

Right im off for a cold bath :-).

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sweetg30 says on Dec 21, 2006, 09:23:

GL, You're funny I don't have any complaints about the way I look, I like my body to be toned, that's why I work out. Big muscles are nice too, I had a friend that was a bodybuilder and it was intimidating but you he made you feel safe.

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seabass says on Dec 21, 2006, 10:20:

I work out for the cardiovascular aspects. Don't really care about building muscle. So I lift light weights and do a lot of cardio.

You wouldn't believe how many guys just pump iron and don't spend a minute on a treadmill or exercise bike.

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goin_south says on Dec 21, 2006, 22:57:

Sweet... How the H... do you know what the boys and girls are into in Cambodia? oh, 'cuse me...Colombia? You said you have not been there since about, like... 1989.

YOU? go to the gym? Sweetttt? I bet those gringos like doin lunges with ya, eh?

Ciao! Gustav.

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bufalo says on Dec 22, 2006, 07:13:

Morphus, Kalder,
3 hours a Morphus, Kalder,

3 hours a week in the gym? That's amazing. Now since I'm married and have a kid, time is tough and have found myself loosing muscle. I admit I overtrain, it never used to be a problem because I had time to rest up and had money for protein - that's over. Any suggestions?

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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Strobers says on Dec 22, 2006, 09:32:

As I Have gotten older, my focus has been more on cardiovascular than anerobic exercise, and nutritian. For a while a couple of years ago I was lifting a lot and started bulking up, but my work out partner stopped going and then I got lazy. Now I play a solid hour of racquetball with another friend three times a week and do 15 minutes of light weights three times per week to maintain myself. Unless you dedicate yourself, it's really hard to look like those guys that grace the front covers of Men's Health or similar publications, especially after you hit 40.

What matters most to me personally is my quality of life. I prefer to feel healthier on the inside then look buff outside. That's why I eat mainly organic food and do a lot of juicing. It makes no sense living until you're 75 if you are wearing diapers, connected to a kidney dialysis machine or walking with the aid of a walker. I personally would rather be dead then live like that.

It's all about feeling healthy.

"Life is too serious to be taken seriously"

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bufalo says on Dec 22, 2006, 10:30:

That's part of my problem, especially with overtraining. If I don't go to the gym I feel lazy and/or tired all day. Years ago, my schedule in Santa Marta was this:

gym at 8 AM for 2 hours - heavy lifting
noonish to afternoon would be to swim the Rodadero beach from one end (past the bridge) to the other (past Mi Ranchito to where the other beach is, by the gym) OR jog El Ziruma which is from el Rodadero to the military base in Santa Marta, then back.

about 5 Pm go to the gym for another 1-2 hours, again heavy.

Then I'd go out about 11PM and dance all night until about 5 or 6 AM.

Repeat.

I'd only sleep a total of 3 hours a day for 2 weeks to a month. It got so bad that I actually decided to just relax one day. I started to get sleepy and almost passed out. the local doctor said that my body was so accustomed to be running at full, that when I finally sat down, my heartbeat slowed and that made me fall asleep. I stopped training that hard and don't do so now. I don't even party anymore so that helps too.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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bufalo says on Dec 22, 2006, 18:13:

Just got back from the gymn using a "less is more" attitude. They were about to close it for the holiday season and for renovations. The trainers were celebrating and gave me four shots of rum while I was training (I was the only one doing so). I don't know if it was the new training style or the rum, but I feel pretty good.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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sweetg30 says on Dec 22, 2006, 19:21:

galecito el graciosito last time i was in Colombia was in 2001 and I wasn't here in 1989, I was still in Barranquilla.

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goin_south says on Dec 22, 2006, 20:49:

no sweet... somewhere in here you said you hadn't been to barranquilla/Colombia since 1989

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Dec 22, 2006, 20:56:

You guys need to CROSS-TRAIN.... MORE, as the years go by. I almost never go to the gym and do the same thing. Almost everytime is different. And, balance is the key. Moderate weights are equally important with aerobics.

I know one guy (actually, the guy that sent me here to PBsH a few years ago, but rarely frequents here anymore, himself) who has una Barranquilleran 20 years younger, and I have warned him, he better get with it on both ends, weights and aerobics, or.... he is gonna be crippled (by her! jeje) in ten years, and he won't be able to keep up...anymore.

We'll C.

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Dec 22, 2006, 22:09:

M_C.... please refrain... from posting; we all know cops are either 'steroid freaks', or total physical misfits that couldn't catch a cotton ball. lol

Ciao! Gustav.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 09:51:

generalizations, my friend...i have been running and working out 3 - 4 times per week since i was in HS..i am a RMF now, so that should give you a time estimate.....its part of my lifestyle, and they will probably bury me with my weightlifting gloves and my polar heart monitor, hahahaha........never had to use steroids, and i will only admit to a chocolate donut or two....=).....i dont do the caffeine thing at all...i live pretty healthy, but since i work out so much and burn over 1000 calories each time, i can just about eat what ever i feel like, but for me, high protein diets work like a charm....it just gets harder as i, uh, accumulate "time"..aka growing older! jajaj...

But i will tell you this, most body builders have NO stamina, (read no cardio!) and are useless in a fight...sort of like a fart in a spacesuit helpless...they burn out too fast....i will take a female cop (who is a runner)as a partner in a fight over a bodybuilder cop anyday....one will last and the other fizzles out and could possibly lose his gun in the battle...to my detriment...=(

heres something even scarier....i went to one of the LA Sheriffs Dept jails a few years back to pick up a prisoner, and i kid you not, every Deputy i encountered looked like our retard governor Arnold S in his prime!!! They ALL had a set of guns on them that were huge, and i am not talking firearms!! Now, that is ok if you are living in the gym, because that is what you would have to do to get that huge, but these guys were bragging about how rich they were getting by working so much overtime in the jails!!! 6 days per week, 12-16 hours per day (per them!)...so when did they find time to go to the gym and eat, sleep, and fornicate????!!!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Dec 23, 2006, 11:21:

okay, deputy dog.

Ciao! Gustav.

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 13:52:

Bufalo, all you need to do is 1 set with a few exercises to stay in shape. If the genetics are there, you might even get bigger and stronger than the steroid dummies that pump up for hours at the gym. Keep the repetitions between 4-8. Concentrate on getting an extra rep and adding weight to the bar. Here are the best exercises:

Over head Military Press - These builds the shoulders and triceps faster and more efficiently than the bench press.

Weighted Dips - These work the chest much better than bench presses. Start out with bodyweight and then start strapping weight around your waist. You should be able to add at least 5lbs of weight every workout. before you know it, you will be dipping with over 100lbs around your waist.

Barbell/Dumbell Rows - these build thickness in the lats and middle back muscles. They also work the bicep.

Weighted Pullups - These give you that "V" shape look and and target the lat and biceps.

Front Squats - These are better and safer than back squats. Keep the heels elevated with a board and grab the bar cross-arm style. Keep the back straight and don't lean foward too much when you go down.

Thats basically it. That workout can be done in 20 minutes. 3 times a week in the beginning and then only 2 times a week as you start using heavier weight. Your muscles will then need more rest. You don't need bench presses but if dips are problem, you can subtitute one for the other. You don't really need to do curls or tricep exercises. The triceps and biceps are already getting enough work. If you have more time you can add these exercises:

1. Lying Tricep Extensions with barbell

2. Dumbell Curls while sitting on an incline bench

3. Dumbell Front Raises for the shoulders

4. Dumbell Flys

The main thing to remember is to only do one set with a heavy weight with each exercise. Just keep adding weigh to the bar. If you feel that 1 set is not enough or feel you need to more later on, you can do 2 or 3 sets. Any more than that is'nt necessary. If you are doing the exercise correctly and with a heavy weight, 1 set should be all that you need.

Cardio is important but too much is bad and can actually speed up the aging process. The simple act of breathing oxygen builds up free radicals in the body. Therees not much we can do other than get anti-oxidants from food and hopefully fight it. 20-30 minutes a day of cardio is more than enough. Any more than that does'nt really yield much more aerobic benefit. Even 10 minutes a day of cardio will keep you in shape and is leaps and bounds better than doing nothing. Its not so much the burning of calories that is important. 10-20 minutes a day of cardio will force your body to make changes like speeding up your metabolism and producing certain enzymes so you store less fat. Therefore, a guy that runs only 1 mile a day for 10 minutes will be in better shape than the guy that runs 5 miles every 3 days for 45 minutes.

Diet is simple. Forget about the 3 meals a day diet. Its better to eat smaller portions and break it up into 6 meals a day. The meals should be around 300-400 calories each. Studies have shown that eating smaller and more frequent meals speed up the metabolism. The body does'nt go into starvation mode and store fat like it does when you eat large 3 meals a day.

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 15:11:

Some pics from Colombia. This was at Estadio.

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 15:14:

I kept in shape despite drinking a couple of gallons of beer a day.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 16:14:

Galecito....somehow i take it you were offended by my post? certainly wasnt meant to be offensive.....???

"Therefore, a guy that runs only 1 mile a day for 10 minutes will be in better shape than the guy that runs 5 miles every 3 days for 45 minutes."...morphus...a guy who runs 1 mile a day for 10 minutes barely gets his heart rate up, so where is the benefit?....and will build no stamina at all.....fizzles out real quickly, where as the 5 miler has alot more stamina...so i guess it is how you define being in "shape"....like i said, in a fight, i will take a runner over a bodybuilder any day or night...


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 17:23:

A guy that runs a mile a day can easily run 5 miles when called upon to do so. Do you think marathon runners run 26 miles a day? Maybe 5 or 6 miles until the big race comes up. The same thing with a boxer. They don't spar 12 rounds every day. Maybe 3 or 4 rounds until the fight.

In a fight, the runner has the best chance of running away...lol

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 17:27:

those that run only 1 mile, will be puking if a fight lasts more than 1 or 2 minutes...even with adrenaline.....and not true about easily running 5 miles...the one-miler will be accident and injury prone if they make it past the 1 mile marker, if he doesnt throw up his breakfast first...big difference between a professional athlete, ie, boxer or marathoner, and casual attendance at a gym....

in a fight, the body builder has a better chance of shooting his wad and burning out rapidly..kind of like premature ejaculation (jajajaja..).then what good is he? like as strong as a limp noodle....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 17:46:

Well, i'm not a bodybuilder. I'm more of a strength athlete or powerlifter. Muscle development is just a side affect. I also do intense cardio everyday for 20-30. 10 minutes is still good and recomended for people with little time. As for injury prone, the guy running 5 miles is more likely to get injured. The joints and ligaments are'nt getting enough rest. Most street fights end on the ground. The guy with the weight and strength has the advantage.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 17:56:

intense cardio for 20-30 minutes is much different than a guy who runs for 10 minutes then stops...worlds apart..the 1 miler barely gets his heart in a cardio range, then he stops....who recomends 10 minutes? doctors dont...and it can be low impact so most can do it...not true about getting rest for the 5 miler, either....everyones body needs for rest are different, and i would put money on the 1 miler getting injured running 5 miles upon demand, over a 5 milers getting injured running back to back days....its endurance and stamina that is built up....maybe your street fights end on the ground, but thats called foreplay....a fighters adrenaline will counter any weight and strength an Arnold S type will have....

.Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Dec 23, 2006, 18:31:

No, M_C.... no offense. no defense. I just don't care too much for most of the police/state troopers I have been around. I'm sure you're an exception. To something.

Ciao! Gustav.

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 18:52:

Also, too much running lowers your testosterone. So when Miguel_clavo is getting down and dirty in those bathroom stalls he might not rise to the occasion.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 18:59:

doesnt take much to post those photos of you warning the children to be aware of you and your type.....and i bet all that juice you suck up makes you too irritable to function properly??

rising to the occasion has never been a family problem....in fact, there was a 58 year difference between my fathers age and my youngest sister's age! so much for your theories...

and a note from the fashion police: didnt those parachute pants and fannie pack go out last millenium, Morhpie? is that an old photo of you, say 8 or more years ago, or do you still wear those?? please tell me it is an old photo....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Dec 23, 2006, 19:19:

Juice? Are you saying I take steroids? I never touched the stuff. I don't even eat red meat. I drink a lot of fresh carrot juice though...lol

I'm a law abiding citizen that has never been arrested. I'll post my photo anywhere without any worries. I have nothing to hide and I am free to express my opinions. You on the other hand are the mystery man. You have a lot to hide. People should be more worried about you. For now we are just going to have to make assuptions.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 23, 2006, 19:31:

you are asking me/us to just take your word for all that you say ??? like you write, assumptions have to be made about what you write as well.....i am not a mystery, but i am not stupid either..i exercise basic internet safety practices, so no, i dont spread my photo and too much personal info about....i guess that is mysterious to you...and that i have alot to hide...like you are going to share those bones in your closet???? rrrrightttt....i have yet to hear anyone admit to using roids..so i guess it is not a problem in the gyms.....but maybe you are different...who knows???

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Dec 23, 2006, 21:30:

aba-daba-dabaaaaa.......what's up? Doc? Carrot Juice?......Morphus, I think you need to eat more PITAYA DE COLOMBIA..... to flush the sh*t out! lol

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Dec 23, 2006, 21:31:

Speaking of Doc, Mario....... where is Sweet? "Tengo mucha compasión para el Martillo."

Ciao! Gustav.

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goin_south says on Dec 23, 2006, 22:05:

.

Ciao! Gustav.

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bufalo says on Dec 24, 2006, 09:24:

Most street fights end fast, real fast. So the bigger and more powerful will usually win. I do like the UFC though because the smaller brazilians used to beat the really big guys. But that's not street fighting. The thing about cops is they are also deterrents. If they are big, and people behave, that is much better than being able to go at it for a long time.

Morphus:
I used to eat 6-7 times a day and built mostly muscle. since marrying the Colombiana, she cooks a HUGE lunch everyday, so I fill up quick. I'm finally getting big again because the other problem was when my daughter was born. I literally didn't sleep for a year and a half. Had to wake up every 2 hours because she would. That did major damage to me. She's finally sleeping and also in school so I got time to train again.
The pics remind me of when I used to work out with "El Pirata" in the afternoons on the beach of el Rodadero, miss that. My gym is closed for 2 weeks so I'll be doing hte cement thing at the local university here.
I used to get up to 80lbs dipping, just starting again and am at 20. I was doing really wide chins with 30, but after a minor shoulder injury, did the stupid thing and continued - resulting in my shoulder practically ripping apart, I'm finally doing a lot of chins now, but no weight.
Funny about the steroid guys, I was always smallest in all the gyms in NYC, compared to the juicers, but it was odd how I could do some stuff heavier or better than them (and was always in a better mood too). Thanks

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 24, 2006, 09:32:

Bufalo, i am talking about a knock down drag out fight. not the hilarious cat-fight 1-2 punches type that most men participate in...the fight like your life depended on it type fights.....which many cops are faced with....then you throw in the weapon factor....hardly a real quick catfight......oh, and the worse thing is a cop with a gun and hitting the juice!!!!!!


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Dec 24, 2006, 14:24:

Miguel_Clavo must be a shrimp if he thinks I am on steroids. He thinks nothing can be accomplished without steroids. I never needed steroids for what I wanted to do. Steroids increase the red blood cell count and cause the muscles to retain water. That causes the muscle to look bigger and puffy. I prefer the smaller denser look. Just look at some old photos from the pre-steroid era. Steve Reeves was stronger in the 1940s than the steroid freaks of today. He even looked better

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morphus says on Dec 24, 2006, 14:26:

Heres Marvin Eder, the 2nd man to bench Press 500lbs in 1950. He did'nt need steroids.

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morphus says on Dec 24, 2006, 14:51:

Miguel_Clavo drinks Coronas. Corona is for wussies...Only 4% alcohol...lol

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Miguel_Clavo says on Dec 24, 2006, 15:33:

Hmmm...didnt get the message, huh? Merry Christmas, Morphie, and thanks for thinking about me!! you are my hero, indeed!

i am a kinder and gentler MC!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel says on Dec 24, 2006, 22:22:

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bufalo says on Dec 25, 2006, 09:43:

No, Steve Reeves, but she's starting!

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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bufalo says on Dec 25, 2006, 09:44:

spotting,(but I know how to do it)

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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kalder says on Dec 29, 2006, 03:59:

bufalo My apologies for not replying to your query earlier- I have been offline for awhile. However, Morphus has answered your workout question more than adequately: certainly better than I could ever have.
BTW, the debate about who'd be 'tastier' in a street fight is fascinating. I don't know which side to come down on. The points about the necessity of good cardio to keep going, when the adrenaline runs out is certainly true. As is the observation that most street fights end up on the ground. As I say, a quality debate.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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gringolondinense says on Jan 2, 2007, 03:04:

one of the best bodybuilders in history has to be Bill Pearl. Hes a real old school weight lifter and looked great in his day. Compare him to the modern bodybuilders like dorian yates who are bloated and have huge bulging abs (from excessive steroid and growth hormone use).

All the crap on this thread about fights makes me laugh. As for a runner beating a bodybuilder in a fight that's a ridiculous comparison. Most real fights last seconds not minutes. Real fights do not have rules and a referee and rounds.

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gringolondinense says on Jan 2, 2007, 03:10:

Bill Pearl, San Diego, 1965

Here is Bill aged 35. This is a more natural physique. You can tell by the small width of the waist and the size of the facial muscles.


This is Bill, aged 56!! not bad !!!

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kalder says on Jan 3, 2007, 11:43:

gringolondinese Great Scott! To look like that at 56; it's inspirational. (Good head of hair too). Have you any idea what his training/dietary regime was?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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morphus says on Jan 3, 2007, 15:40:

Read Bill Pearl's Training Read

Bill Pearl's Training Stategies

I'll tell you right now, that workout won't for the average trainee.

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gringolondinense says on Jan 4, 2007, 02:10:

He has a book out called "Beyond the Universe"..it tells his life story from when he first started training up until the present day. I havent read it yet but Im gonna get it.

I dont actually know his exact regimen....

Also check out www.billpearl.com. to be in that shape at his age is incredible and shows you dont have to lose all your gains like Arnie did.

A really cool book im into is "Optimum Sports Nutrition" by Michael Colgan. Its out of print now but you get it on ebay or google it.

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sweetg30 says on Jan 4, 2007, 10:05:

galecito el bobito I'm alive, dancing and enjoying my life and you?

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sweetg30 says on Jan 4, 2007, 10:08:

morphus I'm not into big muscle guys, but that pic looks really nice, mmmm

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sweetg30 says on Jan 4, 2007, 10:12:

gringolondinense I like the young bill, wow I'm having some fun here, niiiiice mmmmm

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gringolondinense says on Jan 5, 2007, 02:19:

hahhah Yer sweetg you wouldnt say no to that lol! he looks a lot like me actually hahhahh! i couldnt tell a lie!!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jan 5, 2007, 23:43:

GL...obviously you havent fought much...not 1-2 punch catfights like most drunks at bars have..strength has nothing over stamina/endurance in a "real fight" where it a knock down fight for you life type fight i was referring to..yep, no rules, etc..bodybuilders shoot thier wad too fast and poop out under prolonged intense activity....but feel free to disagreeeeeee...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by a kinder and gentler

Miguel_Clavo =).....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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robi666 says on Jan 6, 2007, 07:02:

Miguel_Clavo,fight in a bar Miguel_Clavo,
fight in a bar in Colombia and you get shoot sooner or later.
This stuff about fighting in a bar is so alien from a latin culture. It is a anglosaxon childish stuff, England, USA, Scanidinavia, etc.
I promise to you that you hardly see a fight in Italy or Colombia... guess why?
So it really doesn't matter stamina - endurance - strenght...
What matters is to have bulletproof skin, to be an X-Man, or to be green and kill with your fist... you know! LOL

what we do in life... echoes in eternity.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jan 6, 2007, 13:26:

I dont know, Robi666....i was in La Quinta one night in BAQ and two hotties wearing the skimpiest outfit i have EVER seen were there with their boyfriends...needless to say, the other male patrons overly enjoyed the view, and a brawl started which eventually involved more than 25 people..heavy wooden furniture thrown everywhere, bottles flying....lasted about 5 minutes, and sure cleared the place out rather quickly...then it continued outside....i just sat and watched, finished my beer, and then walked out, looking for my friends outside...the bouncers were nowhere to be found....i thought the bullets would be flying, but there were none...you are right, though, i will be bringing my kevlar vests there! i even had my latest issued vest cut for plainclothes instead of a uniform, in anticipation!! jajajaj...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by a kinder and gentler

Miguel_Clavo =).....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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poco says on Jan 6, 2007, 13:54:

I don't know whether this guy was Waiting for the gym to open or

maybe because it was New Years Eve ?

It looks like the guy fell asleep and spilled a perfectly good beer.

No matter the reason,, he should be in good shape on the first day of the new year.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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morphus says on Jan 6, 2007, 15:27:

When I was in Medellin I saw fights almost every week in Parque Poblado. Thats almost like an outdoor bar. The fights were a joke though. Nobody was really connecting punches.

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morphus says on Jan 6, 2007, 15:43:

My brother does'nt have much endurance but I have seen him flatten guys with one punch.

Here he is with the famous wrestler Rowdy Roddy Piper :)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jan 6, 2007, 17:27:

Hey Morphus, what % pension does a NY cop get after 20 years? LAPD has a 20 and out at 50%, but we have to go at least 25.....just curious if you know...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by a kinder and gentler

Miguel_Clavo =).....Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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morphus says on Jan 6, 2007, 18:18:

NYPD is also 50 percent after 20 years. The suburban cops outside the city do a lot better with salary and pension.

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